easy start to fixing our O-line
by Twitch on Oct 27, 2009 11:19 PM PDT
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First thing Staley....he was drafted out of college he is a RT not a LT and as a RT he is one of the best in the league (where he was our starting RT)...he is natural at that position so lets move him back to his regular spot. its better to get 100% production at a RT then him doing 65% (at best) as a LT.
Now what to do to address our LT...we have two 1st round picks we can trade one (the lower pick of the two) and probably a 3rd round pick for a young established LT (like philly did this year) or we can use one of the picks to draft a LT.....
with Staley at his natural position and a good LT the G spot will play better just by upgrading around them. we can also address the guard spot during the draft if we liked also. just like that we have revamped the line without too much trouble and more importantly not giving up much just by using a pick that we acquired and moving a guy back where he normally should be.
i am confused why no one has brought up that fact bout moving Staley back to his normal spot....
leave comments lets talk it over!
Sorry I ment to put in the off season...moving staley in the middle of the season would be craazy....this was an offseason idea
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great idea
i agree with you also, he was considered up and coming when he was at his natural position now you dont hear much about him, i say put him back too. just hope we dont go and overpay another o linemen thats near his 30s again. lets draft a good linemen with one of our first round picks. Hey if the panthers end up giving us a top 7 pick we could end up with a top notch linemen that would be great.
by Nesto415 on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think moving Staley back to RT AFTER the season is a good idea. Right now you gotta protect Alex’s blindside because at least a hit from the front isn’t going to bury him onto his surgically repaired throwing shoulder. He can also see that side and use his movement to protect himself.
As for the draft we should use Carolina’s super-high pick, (and it will be super-high as beyond Tampa that they play an absolute murderers row of the best teams in the league. Saints X2, Cards, NYG, NYJ, Pats, Dolphins, Falcons, Vikings, Cards and the sorry Bucs.), and take Taylor Mays who is an absolute physical prototype for a SS. Then pick up the best available NON-RT by trading up with our first and second rd picks and getting an elite level guy coming out of college. Then move some money in Free Agency to pick up another couple guys.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 5:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
said cards twice
they only play em once
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor Mays is having problems this year and OT is the bigger need.
1st pick should be a LT. I think Rachal will be good at RG as he is having a few problems but nothing that can’t be worked out. By putting Staley back at RT that would make Rachal better.
Since Baas will be a FA the 49ers need to either sign a FA G or pick up a winner in the draft.
I would also suggest that the 49ers trade Foerster and a 4th or 5th round pick to another team for their OL coach. Of course you would have to pick a team that has a good OL coach. I know this is silly but I have no love for Foerster. His OLs suck and I think our OL is actually better than they are playing under his direction.
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by Eastbayjim on Oct 28, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the blindside is a huge issue here. Staley playing slightly less well at a position that isn’t natural to him is FAR better in my mind than any of our other available options playing their best and letting whoever is taking snaps for this team get murdered from the blindside.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mays
is not even close to worth a top 10 pick. Dude can’t/won’t wrap people up, and he has deficiencies in coverage. OT would be much better with the top pick.
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by Viliphied on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too many programs still preach the wrap as a regular tackling form. I’ve heard Steve Young say that, while it occasionally makes for some poor tackling, there might be something to being able to stay healthier (and extend a career) by impact tackling instead of wrap tackling.
I can’t substantiate that in any way, and if I remember correctly Young sounded skeptical himself. I just think it’s an interesting take. We all want to see great wrap tackling, but it really seems like the technique has fallen out of favor in a lot of coaching circles.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw him miss like 4-5 tackles in the OSU game because he went for the highlight reel hit instead of just concentrating on taking the guy down, including one where he just bounced off the guy (I think it was their TE). I’d pull my hair out if I had to watch that every week.
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by Viliphied on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Staley is a bad run blocker
He’s not particularly great at pass-blocking either, but he profiles better as a LT imo. Would also be much cheaper and more realistic to keep him at LT and draft or sign a RT because of the way the positions are valued.
by znk916 on Oct 28, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
I preface all of this by saying that its way too early to talk about draft strategy (who am I kidding – Its NEVER too early to talk draft strategy!):
Staley is a former tight end drafted for his athleticism and quick feet. He was drafted to be a pass protecting LT, not a protypical RT. On the left side he has proven to be an above average starter whose skills match the position. On the right side he’s probably even more of an above average starter, but his skills do not match the position.
If we were a pass heavy team like the Colts, Cards or Patriots, then it would make sense to move Staley over to the right side and draft a top 10 LT. Then we would have two good pass protectors. But we don’t pass the ball 65% of the time. Given that fact, it makes little sense to invest the kind of money it would take to get have both Staley and a top 10 LT on the roster (those top 10 LTs command big dollars).
Instead, we should draft some other position with Carolina’s pick (QB is Smith sucks, OLB or DT if he doesn’t) and then use our lower 1st round pick or our 2nd round pick to draft a RT. Last year the Ravens got Oher at 23. Hopefully the Niners pick will be right around that spot and can be used to get a similar player.
by kiyoshi on Oct 28, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
I agree that the 49ers shouldn’t look OL with their early pick (assuming Carolina’s pick is early). I’d be totally for taking a RT late in the first or with the second round pick. That’s where they can get value for that position.
People are forgetting that Staley was a later first round pick. He wasn’t drated as an “elite” LT out of college, but rather a player who had a LT’s skill set that can project to that position. The guy is in this third year and showing constant steady improvement. Just because he was a “first round pick,” it does not mean he’s going to be an elite LT overnight. He’s in his third year, give him a little more time.
by sfgfan on Oct 28, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree
Especially with this draft being so heavy at skill positions, I feel like there will be some good O-linemen available at the 49ers later pick.
The earlier pick (Carolina hopefully) should be used on the defensive line or OLB position. I think we can get a decent safety in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.
Also, just as a note I feel like the niners should use one of the later round picks to draft a guy with specific return skill, it’s tough to find a good return man in the FA market.
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by cassusriff on Oct 28, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually there are very few good OTs available in 2010 draft.
the 2009 draft had more good OTs.
RT or LT.. either one, is a great need for the 49ers and it would be better to overkill than under.
Oher went at # 23 but if Crabtree had not fallen so far he would have gone at # 10. Oher is a very good LT and RT.
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by Eastbayjim on Oct 28, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh.
If I’m mistaken, Staley played his last two years in college as a left tackle and was more than definitely drafted to be the 49ers LT. The only reason he started at RT his rookie year was because of (1) veteran courtesy to Jennings, and (2) the 49ers wanted to ease him in.
by sfgfan on Oct 28, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree and disagree with you
I don’t think that Staley is a “natural” RT, however I do think he’s played better on that side as a pro.
I do think drafting a tackle is essential with one of our two 1st rounders next year and if they can play LT better than Staley then great, move him back to the right.
But right now I absolutely don’t want anyone else on the niner’s OL to be protecting the QB’s blindside. I dunno if you were suggesting the move this year, but that would leave Sims as the LT and we all know shudder how that goes…
by foosball4949 on Oct 28, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But right now I absolutely don’t want anyone else on the niner’s OL to be protecting the QB’s blindside. I dunno if you were suggesting the move this year, but that would leave Sims as the LT and we all know shudder how that goes…
This.
by sfgfan on Oct 28, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In retrospect, Michael Oher would have been a good move.
Crabtree is awesome and all but an OL would have been more conducive to winning, especially considering Vernon Davis is finally breaking out.
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by Fearless Frog on Oct 28, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Conducive to winning.
I agree that drafting an offensive lineman probably would have been a more “immediate” help, but I don’t think it’s hurt the team’s future too badly by taking Crabtree. WRs generally (and I know there are exceptions) take at least two to three years to start making an impact, so taking Crabtree (who was, in my opinion, the best WR in the draft BY FAR) gives him a head start (assuming the 49ers continue to progress FORWARD). Finding a young starting RT in the draft is a significantly easier task than finding a starting WR.
If the 49ers take a RT in next year’s draft (with either the later first round pick or the second rounder) they could potentially solidify the line AND have a WR that’s already a year in development.
I know that sounds very rosy glasses of me, but I honestly believed at the beginning of this season that the 49ers would be barely claiming the division (if they were lucky). I had no illusions that they were one of the leagues best, so drafting a RT high in the draft last season with Crabtree available, to me, would have been a mistake.
by sfgfan on Oct 28, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Finding a young starting RT in the draft is a significantly easier task than finding a starting WR."
Totally right. I just had a conversation with a friend of mine yesterday about this very thing.
by kiyoshi on Oct 28, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 2010 I would rather the 49ers go for BOTA ranther than just the BPA.
The Offensive line is the biggest problem and if they can get one of the best OTs in the draft.. go for it. Once they have both OTs spots taken.. The first round picks can go for other needs like SS, OLB/pass rusher, RB (eventually to replace Gore).
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by Eastbayjim on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about an OL
I was one of few who believe that a linemen should have been drafted in the 1st round .It wasn’t hard to see a Major Problem. 55 Sacks ! 2 years running ! Are we on track for another 50 plus sack this season ?
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 29, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Crabtree
as the best Wide Receiver to come out of college since Larry Fitzgerald. He doesn’t have the prototypical size that Larry does but he’s more strongly built for his height and likes to play the position like a tight end in a wideouts body by attacking the defender and running through tackles when he makes the catch. That is why he made 3 first downs in 5 catches last week.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
and he runs routes better than alot of guys that have been in the pros for a decade and he understands defenses and where to sit down with natural instincts. I’m very happy to have been one of the few that defended this guy to others during the contract impasse.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All that info off of one game
Could be true but the passing d in Houston is suspect, let’s see him in the redzone before we can say he was worth the pick. That pick could have been traded and we could have had a 2nd round pick in addition to a late selection. Oher could have been on our team, we could have still made the carolina deal, and we could have also had a 2nd round selection in another area of need. Crabtree needs to make some crucial plays down the stretch to claim he was worth it. Then we’d be in a position to bolster the O and D with weapons in this coming draft.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 28, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look here Mr. Peacock
Put your feathers away. The actions of Crabtree and his agent/entourage were indefensible during his holdout. The fact that he’s a good football player has no bearing on that.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that he has one of the absolute
most scumbag agents in the world… advising him over millions of dollars as a 22 y.o. kid has nothing to do with it. Parker wanted to bust the system so he has a big place for himself at the collective bargaining agreement negotiations coming up. He used Michael. Michael finally said screw this I’m playing. That’s when he came to MC Hammer and said make this happen. Why do you think Hammer was there at the negotiations? Because it wasn’t in Parker’s interest to make the deal happen.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
play the position like a tight end in a wideouts body by attacking the defender and running through tackles when he makes the catch. That is why he made 3 first downs in 5 catches last week.
Let’s see.
3rd & 11 catch from Hill: He ran a precise corner route, caught the ball and tapped his feet to earn the catch. No attacking the defender or running through tackles
3rd & 6 catch from Smith: He got up onto the defender, and made a great grab, knowing he was gonna get hit, held on, and got the first down. No running through tackles or physicall attacking the defender. He attacked with the route, not the body.
3rd & 6 from Smith: He found an opening in the zone, caught the back of the ball on a high throw with his hands, and prepared to get smacked. Again, tough play, but no running through tackles or anything.
He ran great routes, got open, made great plays on the 3rd down catches he made, but he didn’t look like a TE in a WR’s body, more like a really good WR who’s physical, runs good routes, and isn’t afraid or bothered by taking a hit.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch him in college genius
Or maybe you’ve never seen any of his games. The guy is agile but he’s more than willing to run through tackles
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said the guy doesn't break tackles
Just that this skill was not in evidence last week. Mostly because he got hit at the same instant he caught the ball. Genius.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 29, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok maybe I didn't communicate very well
I wasn’t saying he broke tackles to get THOSE IN PARTICULAR first downs. I’m saying he’s not afraid of contact and that’s why he going to get a whole lot of them and punch it into the endzone. He can make people miss but he’s more apt to just break a tackle and keep going forward.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait till he gets a few good slants and crossing routes
Like the one that was called back on Morgans stupid illegal shift
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got tackled on that one too
Look, I love Crabby’s performance last week as much as anybody else. I thought the one that got called back was an excellent example of how he knows how to use his body to shield the ball from a defender, but we’ve yet to see him in “open field” mode in the NFL. Lots of guys look really good and physical running through tackles in college only to disappear in the pros because defenders are bigger, stronger, faster, everything-er. Everything I’ve seen outta the guy has been the real deal (excellent hands, excellent route running, excellent ability to take a hit after the catch). I don’t expect failure, but let’s see success on the big stage before we call him a tackle breaker.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 29, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
An interesting discussion
I like all the ideas, and everything should be kept on the table. But unless we’re tanking the season, Staley should stay put for now, for all the reasons foosball pointed out. In the offseason, we can look at free agents, see who’s good in the draft and where they should be available, etc. and make any projections & decisions at that point.
There’s nothing to be done now, switching Staley in the middle of the season would be TERRIBLE at first and may not get better. The offseason picture will become much clearer once we get there.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
of course everyone
Sorry I ment to put in the off season…moving staley in the middle of the season would be craazy….this was an offseason idea
by Twitch on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... I figured as much
But… it’s still week 8 and we’re in the middle of a playoff race (though we look a little bit like the hare in tortoise vs. hare right now). As I said, there’s nothing to be done now, and nothing’s going to change between now and the offseason, so I don’t see much point in worrying about it. At least with draft projections, we can worry about draft positioning and college player performance…
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2010 is a weak OL draft class
No real franchise-type players.
Let’s try and sign on in free agency, and if not, we should trade one of our #1s for a LT in a contract year (2011 FA). I would make Marcus McNeil the highest paid LT in the NFL.
by nickbradley on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Plenty of good RTs.
I like the guy from LSU and the guy from Iowa
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
At LT there’s Okung, the guy from Maryland, and the guy from USC.
Plenty of talent.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
staley was a left tackle out of michigan
by ninermike on Oct 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's still Michigan!
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it is not!
Same state and that is all. Having grown up in Michigan 50 miles from the U of M, I can guarantee you that no Michigander would equate the two schools. But really I know what you mean. I just had to inject my point of view.
by CorneliusJ on Oct 28, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niners are very willing to put Staley at RT
As I remember during the lead up to the draft, McCloughan said something to the effect that the best tackle will go to the left side, whether it be Staley or a draft pick. If the draft pick, Staley would have returned to the right side.
by FanBelge on Oct 28, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The question is...
… how much of that was part of a poker game? If the 49ers wanted to keep their trade options open, they couldn’t very well say, “No matter what, we’re not going to take a tackle at #10,” as people who want an OT would then just look to trade up to #11 instead, saving some valuable points.
by sfgfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say leave Staley where he is because he can improve, he has not hit his ceiling.
I would do so simply because I wouldn’t want to pay LT money out to anyone when we need to resign Willis and V Davis and potentially make moves in FA. To add by doing so that early pick(carolina’s pick) can go to a good CB prospect or Eric Berry or a true 3-4 NT, which is what our defense needs. I’d also draft ILB to replace Spikes and yes this al with two first round picks. Yes I am a broken record, the Crabtree pick was wrong, not because he is a talent, but because we had so many needs to address and we could have at least two key positions filled plus with a year under their belt headed into the (proclaimed) most talented filled draft.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
More than likely Berry won't be there when the 49ers pick and if one of the couple top OTs are then I can see the 49ers going for them.
Crabtree was a good pick but we needed a OT more and Oher was available. I still like the Crabtree pick as he should help the offense for a long time.
Also on the Eric Berry front, if he falls to the Niiners like Crabtree did in 09 should the Niners take the BPA (Berry) or go with the OT? If Berry is not available and one of the OTs are.. go for the OT. The best defense is a good offense and to shore up the OL would help improve the offense.
Franklin is doing real good at NT but if they don’t re-sign him then they can either move Soap or someone else to NT or draft one. Lots of possibilites there.
McKillop is Spikes’ heir apparent but with Ulbrich out for the year and maybe forever they could use a good ILB to back up Willis and an OLB/pass rush specialist.
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by Eastbayjim on Oct 28, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mc Killop doesn't have the speed neccessary to cover.
A 3-4 d is best suited when the same ILB isn’t the only in man coverage. McKillop could be sound if he had more speed. I would say he is the heir apparent to Ulbrich. I wouldn’t take a RT that high. Only a LT would be drafted that high and based on paying them I wouldn’t want more money than almost anyone on our roster going to a rookie when the CBA is due for a new structure.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 28, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spikes isn’t that fast either.
McKillop would only be a 2-down player.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have Berry as a CB in the NFL
He is much to small to be anything but a free safety as a pro and I think he’s too small to stay healthy even as a free safety when he’s trying to stop the run. Bob Sanders is built like a brick sh!thouse compared to Barry and he’s injured every year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your only reason for not taking a OT that high is the money then Berry would have to be passed on also
The 49ers 1st pick will probably be #9 or later so the money won’t be that big of a factor. There are too many teams right now that are worse than Carolina and also have a worse record. Right now there are 6 teams with < 2 wins and 5 teams, including Carolina with 2 wins. Berry should go in the top 5.
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by Eastbayjim on Oct 28, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops forgot to hit reply for riott#42's post
Just grabbing here from Mel Kiper’s big board. I know he isn’t the best but he gets close.
2 – Eric Berry – too high for the Niners
4 – Taylor Mays – still too high for the Niners and I don’t think he should go in the top 15 anyway
5 – Sam Bradford – Hurt and out all season, I doubt he would go this high, but again, still too high for the 49ers
6 – Russell Okung – Too high for the 9ers but he would solve a problem.. too bad
8 – Jake Locker
9 – Jimmy Clausen – Both Locker and Clausen have a lot of value here for the Niners.. but Clausen will probably stay in school.
He only has one OT in the first 25 and that is Okung so the 49ers would either have to trade down or over pick a OT this high. Trent Williams and Bryan Bulaga and even Anthony Davis OT and Jon Asamoah and Justin Boren OG look good later on in the 1st or 2nd.
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by Eastbayjim on Oct 28, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree was rated #1 on Kiper's board near the draft
Yet still went #10. Any chance we can convince Berry to slightly injure his ankle, skip the combine, and hire Eugene Parker?
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 29, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Carolina's upcoming opponents
They will be lucky to win another game all year long if they don’t beat Tampa again. Murderer’s row.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could go top 5
I like Bulaga (Iowa)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am all for getting O line help
as the top priotrity, but since someone mentioned Berry (safety), what about Taylor Mays (USC)?
by zacksf on Oct 28, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Like rlott#42 says Berry would be great. I like him if he fell to us at the Carolina pick and Okung was not still available.
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by Eastbayjim on Oct 28, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berry is too small in the NFL
If they don’t move him to corner he will get slaughtered in the running game. The only guy his size that hasn’t gotten massacred is Polamalu. Sanders is an animal but he’s injured half of every season.
Mays is prototypical in size, speed and strength. He projects as the better run stopper though he’s not nearly as good in coverage.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly, our front seven is so strong against the run that we don’t need someone as big as taylor mays. What we need is somone who is great in pass coverage. Taylor mays really isn’t that good in pass pass coverage, he doesn’t go for the big play, just the big hit.
But the teams ahead of us need the next ed reed and the next sean taylor too, so I doubt either of them fall to us. If one does, just switch the 1st pick with the second round pick.
1st pick- edge rusher. I’m not convinced haralson is a better rusher than lawson. I think if we got a top 10 defensive end to replace sopoaga, we would get better production out of lawson.
2nd 1st round pick- OT
2nd round pick- something for our secondary. If we got a quality corner and moved clements to safety we’d be in good shape.
pick up a good gaurd in free agency and our needs are pretty much met, depending on how alex smith works out. If he doesn’t work out I say we try nate davis and get our line in order so we don’t waste another first round pick on a quarterback and have the team built around him. unless clausen falls to us in 2011.
by hellaninersfan on Oct 29, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf?
Are you serious?
What in the world would give you that idea?
Have you ever heard of Ed Reed?
….or Roy Williams…..(compares to Mays)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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