San Francisco 49ers vs. Indianapolis Colts: A Prospector's Guide
Well, as some of you pointed out, we've truly come full circle. Alex Smith makes his first start in two years, but more interesting is the fact that he made his first career start in the last matchup between these two teams. Smith was 9/23 for 74 yards, 0 TDs and 4 interceptions in that start. Let's hope for something just a little bit better than that.
The 49ers travel to Indianapolis to face the Colts in what will be the 42nd meeting between the two teams, dating back to 1953. The last time San Francisco traveled to Indianapolis was in 2001, when they defeated the Colts, 40-21. QB Alex Smith made his first NFL start the last time the two teams squared off in San Francisco, in 2005.
The 49ers look to snap a two-game losing streak after falling to the Texans, 24-21, in Houston last week. After trailing 21-0 heading into the second half, Smith entered the game and sparked the 49ers offense in what was his first action in 28 regular season games. He completed 15 of 22 passes for 206 yards and three touchdowns, all of which were
caught by TE Vernon Davis, who set a career-high with the three scores and became the first 49ers tight end to record 3 receiving scores in a game. Davis now leads the NFL in touchdown receptions with six.
The 49ers have a perfect 3-0 record against division opponents this season and enter this week’s game having won 8 of its past 13 contests, dating back to 2008.
49ers-Colts Connections
Coaching Connections
• 49ers offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye coached alongside Colts defensive line coach John Teerlinck with the Los Angeles Rams in 1991.
• Colts Senior OL Coach Howard Mudd was OL Coach for San Francisco in 1977 while Raye was WR coach. Mudd played for San Francisco from 1964-69.
• Special Teams Coordinator Ray Rychleski served as the position coach for TE Vernon Davis at Maryland (2003-05).
Players
FORMER COLTS - Offensive line coach Chris Foerster served as tight ends coach for the Colts from 2002-03 ... Secondary coach Vance Joseph played with the Colts during the 1996 season ... Director of college scouting David McCloughan was drafted in 1991 by the Colts with the 69th pick overall in the NFL Draft ... Director of Pro Personnel Tom Gamble was a college scout for the Colts from 1998 - 2004.
FORMER 49ERS - Colts DB Terrail Lambert spent training camp with San Francisco after being signed as an undrafted free agent in 2009.
INDIANA TIES – 49ers WR coach Jerry Sullivan served in the same capacity at the Indiana University in 1983 ... 49ers tight ends coach Pete Hoener was an offensive coordinator at Indiana State from 1978 –1984. Hoener also served as offensive line coach at Purdue University from 1989 – 1991 ... 49ers QB Nate Davis played at Ball State in Muncie, IN.
from 2006-08.
CALIFORNIA TIES – Colts DB T.J. Rushing played for Stanford University from 2002–05.
TARHEEL BRED – 49ers CB Dre’ Bly played and Colts C Jeff Saturday were teammates for two seasons at the University of North Carolina (1996-97).
TROJAN TIES - 49ers G Chilo Rachal and Colts DT Fili Voala were teammates at Southern California from 2005-07.
PANTHER PRIDE - 49ers LB Scott McKillop played with Colts LB Clint Session at Pittsburgh from 2004-06.
Series Highlights
Matchups: 41
Series Record: Colts lead series 23-18
49ers Away Record vs. Colts: Colts Lead Series 1
First Meeting: 11/29/53, 49ers win, 38-21
Last Meeting: 10/9/05, Colts win, 28-3
Current Streak: Lost 1
Longest 49ers Win Streak: 5 (10/26/69-9/10/89)
Longest Colts Win Streak: 13 (11/4/62-10/13/68)
Most 49ers Points: 45 (12/13/53), 45-14, at San Francisco
Most Colts Points: 45 (11/22/59), 45-14, at Baltimore
49ers Shutouts: None
Colts Shutouts: None
INDIANAPOLIS 28, SAN FRANCISCO 3
At San Francisco, CA, October 9, 2005
The San Francisco 49ers stayed on par with Indianapolis for three quarters of the game before a 14-point 4th quarter pulled the Colts to a 28-3 victory. Rookie QB Alex Smith made his first start, finishing with 9 completions and 4 INTs. He was also sacked 5 times and lost a fumble on one of the sacks in the 4th quarter. The first of his three 1st half INTs was returned 24 yds. for a TD by LB Cato June early in the 2nd quarter. Head Coach Mike Nolan did credit Smith’s mobility as a factor in the 49ers ability to open up the running game. RB Kevan Barlow paced the 49ers with 99 of the team’s 133 yds. on the ground.
Indianapolis took its first possession and marched 72 yds. in 7 plays before RB Dominic Rhodes scored on a 6-yd. run for a 7-0 lead. The Colts had a chance to go up 14-0 early in the 2nd quarter, but LB Jeff Ulbrich forced Rhodes to fumble at the 1-yd. line. The ball rolled into the end zone where S Mike Adams recovered for a touchback. Smith was intercepted on the 49ers next three series, including June’s 24-yd. TD return. Down 14-0 with just over two minutes to play in the 1st half, LB Derek Smith intercepted a QB Peyton Manning pass to give the 49ers a first down at the Indianapolis 47-yd. line. The 49ers scoring threat ended when Smith was intercepted by the Colts when he attempted to hit WR Arnaz Battle at the Colts 15-yd. line.
The 49ers tried to swing the momentum in the 2nd half with a successful onsides kick that was recovered by RB Terry Jackson at the San Francisco 41-yd. line. A 2-yd. run by RB Frank Gore on a 4th-and-1 play from the 50-yd. line, combined with a 20-yd. run by Barlow, helped set up a 30-yd. FG by K Joe Nedney for the 49ers only points of the day. The 49ers failed to convert their second attempt at an onsides kick on the kickoff following the FG, allowing the Colts a first down at the San Francisco 39-yd. line. CB Bruce Thornton stayed step-in-step with WR Marvin Harrison on the next play and intercepted a pass in the end zone to prevent a TD. Alex Smith threw his 4th INT of the game on the next series after the 49ers reached the Indianapolis 37-yd. line. The Colts scored 14 points in the 4th quarter to put the game out of reach. RB Edgerrin James scored on a 4-yd. run to start the 4th quarter, and then Manning connected with WR Troy Walters on an 18-yd. TD pass to make it 28-3.
2009 Statistics
| 49ERS (rank) | COLTS (rank) | |
| 3-3 (2nd NFCW) | Record | 6-0 (1st AFCS) |
| 22.2 (t-17th) | Points per game | 29.8 (2nd) |
| 272.0 (29th) | Total Offense | 402.5 (4th) |
| 98.3 (22nd) | Rushing Offense | 91.7 (27th) |
| 173.7 (24th) | Passing Offense | 310.8 (1st) |
| 29:32 (18th) | Possession Avg | 28:57 (22nd) |
| 20.3 (15th) | Points allowed/gm | 12.8 (2nd) |
| 291.7 (14th) | Total Defense | 324.8 (9th) |
| 88.8 (6th) | Rushing Defense | 111.8 (19th) |
| 179.8 (21st) | Passing Defense | 236.0 (6th) |
| 13 (t-20th) | Sacks | 16 (t-8th) |
| 47.6 (5th) | Punting Avg (Gross) | 44.5 (17th) |
| +4 (t-8th) | Turnover Differential | +4 (t-7th) |
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Wow, yea, i remember that game well, Smith’s first start, also whatever happened to Mike Hart, or Marlin Jackson for the Colts? I know they both went to Michigan so there’s the tie with David Baas. Also that game where the niners blew out the Colts back in 2001 was the famous “PLAYOFFS?!?!?! PLAYOFFS?” That was such a good game with owens and garcia. Who knows what could happen, anything can happen on any given sunday
Looking forward to this game.
Hard to imagine finding a strategic advantage over the Colts.
I will say that we really have nothing to loose, were supposed to get blown out. So what should we do? Go balls to the WALL!!!
Lets open up the playbook like a book of black magic, on offense and defense. Smith should be firing away trying to make something happen and shouldn’t care about the consequences.
Mike Hart and Marlin Jackson are both still with the team.
Actually its looking like Donald Brown may not play this week, that means Hart should/could get some touches.
Jackson has had a limited role due to injury. If he plays he’ll likely see time as a nickel corner.
I’m going to the game with my brother-in-law who’s a big Niners fan from way back. Should be fun……..hopefully he leaves Lucas Oil feeling a little depressed. =)
Thanks for all the awesome info about the two clubs. I didnt know a lot of that.
Ohhh, ok, got ya, i was wondering, because im a big Michigan fan, that’s kinda why i back Baas, since he was such an awesome center in college. But is it that Jackson’s been injured often throughout his career? because i haven’t heard his name much. And i’m assuming Mike Hart is a 3rd back behind Brown and Addai, and in all honesty, the Colts’ running game is OK at best, i mean, Addai’s good, Brown is pretty good, but the for the Colts, the pass is the only threat that really stands out to me offensively.
Jackson has a special place in my heart for that
game winning INT in the AFC championship in 06. He hasnt played much this year because of the off season surgeries, and with exciting rookies Powers and Lacey being able to fill in where needed, Jackson has sort of faded away. He’s a good corner, and in a contract year. We’ll have to see where he ends up. My guess is he will be at the bottom of the list of players to retain.
If im not mistaken the depth chart for the Colts at RB go, Addai, Brown, Simpson. Hart has been on the practice squad. My guess for the game is Addai and Simpson getting most of the touches, unless Simpson does something retarded (which really is possible, that guy makes me nervous) and Hart gets into the game to show his stuff. I really like Hart and think he has potential. He’s just had some bad luck, and now with Donald Brown looking promising, Im not sure of his future with the team.
You are right about the running game. But there is a marked improvement over last year, lets hope they can get it together toward the end of the season if they get an opportunity in the playoffs. I wish the Colts would run some more draw plays. Seems like you would be able to generate a better running attack since Manning and the passing attack is the real thing to fear.
Im not sure how the Niners secondary has been playing. How will Manning fare? Any players back there who he will pick on? (I know, should have posted that in the Niners Q+A)
Ohhh yea, i remember that INT with Jackson, and it’s too bad he kinda just faded.
With Hart, i think that his height, and his speed really has something to do with it, he has a ton of potential, and overall i think Brown is better than Hart currently, especially with the fact he is playing in the regular season.
Yea, i can definitely see the improvement over last year, i had Addai on my fantasy team last year, and it was pretty damn depressing, same with Dallas Clark, and this year both those players are doing pretty well, Addai is doing ok, and Dallas Clark is just doing amazing. You’re right about the running attack, you would assume that they would run the ball a little more especially with Manning as your QB.
The Niners secondary has been playing decent at best lately. Clements is good in coverage but his tackling lately has been lacking, in my opinion it’ll be interesting to see just who he will pick on, and Spencer and Clements have done well in coverage, Bly is OK. It also depends on if Michael Lewis will be back from his concussion, but gotta imagine Clements on Wayne, Spencer on Pierre, Bly on Collie, and Lawson on Clark. It’ll be interesting, but it really depends on the rushing and if they can at least pressure Manning and get him out of the pocket
Last week they played more 2 tight ends than they had previously.
It will be interesting to see how it turns out.
I know the team will be fired up since we are starting a 3 game home stand. If i had to guess i would say that the coaching staff is telling the players that November is make or break for them. I cant say i disagree. I certainly dont think San Fran will be a pushover. Houston can potentially pose a real threat, especially being in our division, and the fact we play them twice in Nov. Of course there’s the annual Pats game, that should be a fun one to watch. And finally the Baltimore game. No need to explain that one. A lot of Baltimore fans still hate the Colts over what happened when the team moved……..which is retarded in my opinion……I could see that game getting flexed into prime time, depending on each teams record leading up to it.
So…..my long winded point is….I think Caldwell will have this team jacked up and out for blood. This is the stretch where the Colts can shut up the handful of people who are saying “yeah they are un-defeated, but they havent played anybody”
Nope, can't think of anyone . . .
Im not sure how the Niners secondary has been playing. How will Manning fare? Any players back there who he will pick on? (I know, should have posted that in the Niners Q+A)
since the bungles have a bye week...
I haven’t seen the Niners all year, so I’m hoping I’ll get to see them this week on television.
Truth has a well-known liberal bias.
Wow... I can't even remember Bruce Thornton. And he picked Manning
I’d rather recall our last trip to Indianapolis. Young team beat the Mannings. Great game by Hearst on the ground and our DBs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
aww, remember Bruce Thornton??
we all thought he was gonna be great because he shut down Harrison that game…yeah, that never happened…
Going to the game...
In Indy this Sunday. It’ll be my first NFL game let alone my first Niners game. I have to agree with Goatfather on this one…there really is no way we win this game so why not go all out and really open up the playbook. Maybe we’ll get lucky and catch them off guard. I don’t see the running game being a big factor this week honestly. Im sure the Colts will score early and score often, so i’m predicting a game of catch up for most of the contest. Hopefully Alex can find some open receivers, and at the very least…not embarass us TOO bad.
That's what she said.
Never "no way"
Just think, you may get to walk outta that stadium with the biggest grin on your face surrounded by disconsolate Colts fans.
Instead of going all out, if that equates to being irresponsible, I think these are the kind of games where a team should stick to who they are while mixing in an occasional trick play (fake punt or FG, fleak-flicker) or putting something on film for a future opponnent. Our biggest problem with that is I’m not sure we now know exactly who we are in light of the QB change and o-line problems/injuries. It may be more important to use this week to figure that out and hope that it gives also us the best chance to win in Indy.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I havent seen...
any trick plays at all this year on the offense with Raye. I think we’ve ran maybe one end-around?? I may be making that up. I’ve been going out to B-Dubs for all the games as I canceled my Sunday Ticket so it’s kinda hard to watch the entire game close up. That and the alcohol kind of makes it hard to follow as well.
I definitely think we should have Gore run the ball at least 15-20 times to keep the defense honest, but we have to take some shots downfield as well to obtain some semblance of a running game.
This is going to be a true test for Smith, as I think Sanders is back now back in full form for the Colts. I think he’ll be ok if he can just go out and “feel” the game and not try to overthink things. Which has been one of his greatest downfalls.
Im PUMPED for this game, and I hope we can make it an entertaining/competitive game if nothing else.
That's what she said.
Trick plays
We’ve done a few end-arounds; I think one to Bruce, maybe one to Morgan and two to Walker. Certainly no halfback option passes or flea-flickers. I do know that we haven’t had enough total plays to do much of anything beyond the basics. Having more drives that gain a first down or two would give us a better perspective on how Raye calls a game. It’s also the only way to get a running game in rhythm.
That’s why this weekend intrigues me. The offense can’t control Mannings greatness and how are defense responds to him. But Steven Jackson just went for a big game on Indy. And Miami ran on them. So did Jacksonville. And we would like to run better, so start with the pass to open up the run. Certainly we’ll need many points to win this game but we have to come about scoring in a way that fits who we are. Ideally, Alex would attempt close to 35 passes, Gore would have 20-25 carries and we’d win both the turnover and TOP battle. Do that, and 28 points can win the game. But throw too many incompletions, lengthen the game and commit turnovers means it won’t matter how well our defense plays. We won’t score enough to beat anyone.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Going as well...
Taking my fiancee to her first 49ers game (of many).
While I think it will be a blowout, it will still be fun for a variety of reasons. We get to see the next part of Alex’s career start (good or bad), Crabtree, the new stadium… and most of all, since the Colts are heavily favored, there is NO PRESSURE as a fan.
I hate those games were we feel like we simply have to win. Here, we don’t, so I’m just going to enjoy my team going out and trying their hardest.
I believe there is a small chance :). Drinking the Kool Aid.
49ers al Grito de Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 28, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions
Trap Game
Undefeated Colts, losing streak Niners, too small a sample size to properly gameplan for Smith, Crabtree still trying to prove a point…
Not calling it one way or another, but don’t be surprised if the requisite Colt midseason slump coincides with a Niners squad ready to pounce on even the slightest opportunity.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
+1
It may not happen, but I like the way you are thinking!
by Andrew Davidson on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I SAID IT FIRST "SPREAD THE DEFENESE"
see what happens when they listen to me. we get 3 TDs in 1 half. to exploit the blitz you have to go 5 wide and make them show you where its comming from. once you see it, you hit the quick in or out. i really hope that they keep this up and continue to use 4 reciever sets. if our strength the whole summer was our receivers why not use our strength then?
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"
Ugghhh...
Those stats from Alex Smith’s first start are painful. I had almost forgotten what his early days were like. I really have a hard time believing he can make such a drastic change— especially with our O line. I really hope so, but….
by FiveAlarmFreddy on Oct 28, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
First start
Look back at Aikman’s. Or Mannings. QBs that start as a rookie tend to have awful stats. And Aikman had Irvin while Manning had Harrison (I think). Smith had no one anywhere near either of those players. Four years is a lifetime. On the other hand, Leaf won his first game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
“And Aikman had Irvin while Manning had Harrison (I think). Smith had no one anywhere near either of those players.”
CRABTREE!!! What, too soon?
Meant when Alex was a rookie
Now he certainly has the best receiving talent he has ever had.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
AMEY
HAHA, i remember when he was playing for us back in the day. I distinctly remember he returned a kick off for a touchdown and was going bananas yelling his name. Everybody was looking at me like who the hell is that!
That's what she said.
Keys to 49ers victory (pretty obvious)
1. Keep Peyton Manning off of the field as often and as long as possible – the team can’t be going 3-and-out and expect to remain close, let alone win. Frank Gore needs to step up, and grab yards in chunks. It’s certainly on the O-line to make some space for Gore to run. I’d like to see the 49ers have a full-house backfield with Coffee, Gore and Norris lining up. Heck, if Indy is preparing for a spread attack, come out and “hit them in the mouth”.
When Lee does punt, unfortunately it’s prone to happen, the team is going to have to rely on him putting Manning and Co. as deep in their own end as possible. Again, No 3-and-outs! Win the field position battle too!
2. Let Alex be Alex. When I say that I mean roll him out in bootlegs in non-spread formation pass plays. Let him utilize the play fake and have a chance to scramble if he needs to. Don’t call a lot of plays that keep him in the pocket when the defense is attacking – he’s got the pocket presence of a jittery kitten. Furthermore, don’t be afraid to let him throw it downfield. Just because Hill couldn’t do it, doesn’t mean we have to erase a 20+ yard pass play from our playbook.
The team will have to utilize a guy like Brandon Jones in the deep game, because just maybe the Colts don’t see it coming. When I say throw the ball deep, I don’t mean in the spread formation or the 3-4 WR sets, I mean on any given moment out of any formation. The spread offense is going to happen, but we can’t expect it to succeed without a balance in normal formations. Besides, with 2 WRs and VD on the field in the regular sets, there’s still a big opportunity to stretch the field.
3. Ask lady luck for a few favours, and stop making penalties. Yeah, the refs may have jobbed us in the Minny game, but the 49ers have been making far too many penalties to be competitive. It’s no surprise we lost Sunday, because the team had 11 [site decorum x 11!!] penalties. If a team is making that many penalties, that’s not the refs fault. Stop being sloppy San Francisco!
4. Mike Singletary cannot be afraid to ask his staff for help. The garbage clock management against Houston was inexcusable. Does he realize he can call for a timeout from the sideline? I like what the HC is doing as a whole, he just needs to improve his game management skills. Last year’s MNF game was a write-off; rookie coach, rookie mistake. Sunday’s delay of game on 4th and 5 was inexcusable. There was 35 seconds left, plenty of time to spike the ball if they didn’t get out of bounds.
The situation was managable, until the play clock expired and the team moved back 5 yards. Then Smith had to force a pass to sir Isaac because a simple 5 yard dunk route wouldn’t suffice. I suppose I should’ve been happy that the team showed so much fight, but the loss was angering because of the way it was managed in the final minutes.
by Andrew Davidson on Oct 28, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions
Side Note:
I didn’t want to create a FanPost for this and didn’t really have anywhere else to post this but I thought it was interesting that both the Cards and Niners remaining opponents have combined losing records.
The Niners remaining opponents records- 27-34 (.443)
The Cardinals remaining opponents records- 21-42 (.333)
I thought it was interesting that both teams face a majority of below average teams the rest of the year. If Alex Smith and the others can give us a couple heartbeats on the electrocardiagram, we may still be able to have a run at it. There’s 10 games left including the one that we probably will lose this coming weekend. I think it’s going to take more than 9-7 to earn a wildcard spot this year. We need to hope that the Cards finish with the same record as us and that we take the MNF game against them.
Possible games the Cards could lose: @ Chicago, vs. Seattle, vs. Minnesota, @ S.F., and vs. G.B. It would take the Arizona Cardinals losing these five games to finish with a 9-7 record. The odds are stacked against us. Alot of things need to happen for us to contend for the playoffs this year.
As of now, here are the other NFC teams (not currently in 1st place) in contension for the wildcard:
Philly 4-2
Dallas 4-2
Green Bay 4-2
Chicago 3-3
Atlanta 4-2
So it seems in analyizing this, that our only chance of playoffs is to win the division outright
Assuming
We lose to Indy and beat the Titans at home that would give us a record of 4-4 for the first half of the season. Being that that is the most likely scenario, the 49ers would need a record of 6-2 for the second half of the season to finish with 10 wins. Here is a look at the 2nd half of the season:
Bears (Home) 3-3
Packers (Away) 4-2
Jaguars (Home) 3-3
Seahawks (Away) 2-4
Cardinals (Home) 4-2
Eagles (Away) 4-2
Lions (Home) 1-5
Rams (Away) 0-7
So 6-2 looks very very tough but not impossible. It will take the Niners playing like they did in the 2nd half of the football game last weekend for the rest of the season to have a shot at playoffs.
I've never been big on the combined opponent win percentage stat
Spent the entire summer dealing with people trying discredit the 49ers run at the end of the last season. Pretty simple math and logic. The more your team wins the less impressive your combined opponents record looks, the more you lose the more impressive it is.
If the 49ers beat the Texans than they have played a combined schedule with a losing record and people quickly laminate it as an easy schedule. Losing to the Texans meant the 49ers have played against a combined schedule with a winning record. If the 49ers are 6-0 their schedule looks unbelievably soft. If 0-6 it looks like they played the stalwarts of the NFL.
True
I don’t think it holds a full glass of water but I sort of just put it there as a side bar (an appetizer if you will) to the main course.
It will be a very difficult feat for this team but if we come out and play the 2nd half of the season the way we played the 2nd half of our last game, the odds sort of look a bit better. Not sure if thats what you were trying to say or if you were trying to discredit my entire post. Either way, its a steep climb the rest of the year
I’m just trying to say take the winning percentage comparison with a grain of salt. Danny’s post last Saturday was a better indicator of schedule difficulty because it analyzes match up difficulty as it pertains to the 49ers. The Cardinals won’t fair well against teams that can get a pass rush off the edge and throw deep, doesn’t matter if that team is 1-5 or 5-1.
They seemed to have done a good job of
containing Tuck and Osi which is kind of scary. I would bank on any team getting a pass rush against them after that
The Saints did too
I’m starting to believe that Giants group has lost a step. Last year they were the best in pass rush, this year I am ready to peg them as average. That’s how fast things change in the NFL.
Hmm
Giants “average” because of 2 losses? I am skeptical to agree with that statement. And even if the team is so-called average, I definitely not tag Tuck or Osi as “average” DE’s
The Cardinals OT are fairly bad and Giants didn’t do much against them. It’s not like the Cardinals short passed them death, the pass rush just wasn’t getting there. Plus the Saints game showed some troubling signs in effort and attitude.
Thats the thing, I don’t think the Cards O-line is as bad as they have been. Seems like they have become one and are working on the same page more so now.
Personally, the Giants are still going to take the East and be deep in to the playoffs. Just because a team has 2 games in which they played less than what their capacity truly is, does not equal they are average. Don’t be fooled by the loss to NO and AZ. They are still one of the stronger teams in the NFC
I've always agreed with that
And when looking ahead, one has to account for the when you play someone as much as who you play. Two weeks back people were counting our Chicago game as a likely loss. Now more people count it as a likely win. Gotta let stuff play out over the full 16.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
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Probably a good idea not to create a FanPost for that. Later this week I was thinking of posting something about the Panthers-Arizona game given the implications for draft pick on one side, division on the other. Feel free to repost this when that goes up (tomorrow or Friday I’m thinking).
by David Fucillo on Oct 28, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions

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