Michael Crabtree contract negotiations: The never-ending story
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 4:04 PM PDT
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Nothing new has developed, but given that people are antsy (or at least I am), I thought we might as well have a front page post to take us into what could turn into a looooong night. If something does happen we'll certainly have a post for it, but for now, let's move the discussion here, rather than in our Adam Schefter FanShot.
If you're looking for on the scene sources, I think your best bet is Matt Maiocco's Twitter page. His last two tweets:
He made a very nice move to avoid me and @MBachCSN at the hotel where the meeting his taking place.
from webMichael Crabtree's foot is just fine. He just sprinted away from me. Seriously.
from web
I posted this in the Schefter FanShot, but this is starting to feel like a selection of a new pope. When the pope is finally selected, white smoke goes up over the Vatican. I sit here waiting for that smoke to come from whatever hotel they're at...
The only real updates at this point were a little bit ago stating that Jed York left the meeting and KNBR (among others) reported that Eugene Parker and Paraag Marathe were still meeting. If Crabtree left, I'm not sure things will get done tonight since he actually has to sign the deal. Although, I suppose they could hammer out the details, sleep on it and sign it tomorrow? Or maybe we'll just keep on waiting...Who knows when this will end.
Fooch's Note: Good link from wjackalope. For those wondering why this isn't happening more quickly now that they're in the same room, here's a good rundown on the difficult nature of negotiating these kinds of deals.
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So he’s most likely signing?
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 6, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
signing
One would imagine so based on the actions of the day….but given the soap opera nature of this, things could change in a heart-beat. So I’m saying who knows what will happen anytime soon.
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what the chances are that he signs but is traded?
All part of the deal, of course.
by LoneStranger on Oct 6, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure we can't trade him
because he hasn’t been in the league long enough. someone who remembers better?
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
by wjackalope on Oct 6, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that correct
He hasn’t played for a full year so he is uneligible to be traded until after the season.
by hudd07 on Oct 6, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if...
… there were no rules against it, signing and trading a high draft pick AFTER he is signed is an utterly ridiculous move. The team is already on the hook for the bonus money, so they’ll be paying him regardless if he’s on the roster or not.
by sfgfan on Oct 6, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha i hope!
been outta class sine 10am so nothing to do but wait..
by thecity23 on Oct 6, 2009 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network
is reporting that Crabtree and Parker are still in negotiations with Paraag as we speak. They are also reporting that both sides are “extremely” confident that a deal could get done.
Matt Borrows is on KNBR right now and said that a 3rd party brought the two sides together. And that 3rd party is not Deion Sanders
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could it be
Jerry Rice who brought them together?
by GeeMunster on Oct 6, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Brown
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Oct 6, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
third party
I’ll try not to take too much credit for getting them together!
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good job at meeting Crabs at SFO. We all know you took him to a nice diner then told him he should sign this contract.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 6, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No need to thank me guys.
Just doin’ my job.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're all welcome.
I didn’t really do it. I just figured I’d throw my name in since everyone else is doing it.
by jveezy on Oct 6, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, guys
I admit it was me who brought the two sides together.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 6, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
finally concrete news from a reliable source. The meeting is happening. The deal will probably get done in the next day or two, we can at least hope. I urge people to read or re-read this piece about all the stuff that needs to be worked out in this kind of deal. It might take a while.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
by wjackalope on Oct 6, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I was still commenting on the fanshot and thinking i was commenting on this one. Nocal put down the coffee and relax a bit, i say to myself lol
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MBachCSN He looked relaxed and was smiling but possible the number crunchers are still working
MattMaiocco Crabtree shows impressive elusiveness with hotel exit. http://bit.ly/3rJB6u #fb
by thecity23 on Oct 6, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's nice to see positive movement
I think Parker and Crabtree made there play to get a big payday and the Niner’s brass stood strong and didn’t blink. I have a feeling Crabtree got to do or die time and realized that he had to make a decision about if he wanted to play football or re-enter the draft. Sitting at home wasn’t doing much to improve the offer and was only costing him game checks.
Nothing is settled yet, but I imagine as long as neither side tries to pull anything crazy a deal will get hammered out in the next few days to get Crabtree under contract and with the team before Friday.
by DiegoAsFan on Oct 6, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Given our offense he could have been collecting a check catching zero passes these last 4 weeks.
by bignerd on Oct 6, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prediction!
5 years 32 mill, 18 guaranteed
by danknerd49 on Oct 6, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You might be right. I think now that the niners have him in talks.. they will be more open to adjusting the amounts
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Oct 6, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's still time to post on the Crabtree Contract Prediction Game
Here’s the link:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/10/3/1067787/crabtree-contract-prediction-game
When I wrote that fanpost, I wasn’t expecting things to go this quickly…
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 6, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could It Be
a 6 year deal loaded with incentives and a nice amount of money upfront? Just saying!!!
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All indications point in this direction. PFT has an article up what the deal could be like.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 6, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it'll be a six year deal
Not based on Eugene Parker’s past history with negotiations. The big money for players is in free agency, so I suspect he’ll want to keep it as short as possible and be willing to give up some guaranteed money to do it.
by smileyman on Oct 6, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the problem
Crabtree wasted a quarter of this year. So if the Niners lop off a million for his non-play we’re now down to 15 million guaranteed. Maybe he could get that money back with a six-year deal and more. And face it, when you’re a 22 year-old kid a bird in the hand, etc.
It’ll be interesting, but, really, at this point Crabtree and Parker don’t have all that much leverage. If he doesn’t sign he loses a year of earnings and probably most of the guaranteed money too.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 6, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point
He’s not going to come out of a meeting with a deal like the Niners have offered already, or he’ll lose face. He has to come out with a $40M deal, or approaching, even if it’s adding a 6th year and tons of fluff money in there as roster bonuses, etc. He’s not going to walk away saying “We tried and failed,” because he’ll get killed in competition for next years’ draft picks.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 6, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prediction
6Y-38mill, 17 guaranteed
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
5 Years / $60
I’m going with the Aaron Rowand contract here!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 6, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That went well
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
by PAWarrior on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or the barry zito deal
7 years 126 million
by big beaner on Oct 6, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but can Crabs handle the slider low and away?
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Oct 6, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
@ ninjames why not just agree with me lol
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've read like one comment in here. I didnt't even know everyone else was making predictions.
by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey if everyone knows, then lets take it further
Why not a lifetime contract @ $10 Mil a year. My Prediction ? My Money is on the Niners staying with the orignal contract except for the money he lost during the 1st 4 games.
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 6, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree except...
they dont reduce the offer for the games missed.
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do believe they can if they notify him by letter.
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 6, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could offer him anything
pretty much.
I expect the Niners will push for a six-year deal. And they do have the leverage. And Parker and Crabtree don’t.
Right now Parker stands to look like a fool for keeping his client out this long (although it’s really not clear whether the holdout was his or Crabtree’s doing) and they’ll paint the contract with enough unachievable fluff in order to make Parker look like he didn’t commit a colossal fail.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 6, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expections From Both Sides
the deal is going to get done today. They are crossing the I’s and dotting the T’s at this point. This from Matt Borrows on KNBR right this second
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Read this article by PFT about Crabs possible contract.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/06/six-year-fluff-filled-deal-coming-for-crabtree/
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 6, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IM EXCITED TOO... DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS FOR MY SEASON TICKETS!!!
IDK EITHER HAHAHAHAHA SIGN THE DAMM PAPER CRABBBY
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yesssss
thank god
"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004
by rekehavoc on Oct 6, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From all indications, it’s going to happen.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 6, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be true but
with all the Stuff that has happen since draft day. I’m not buying anyone rumors.Until then, I wait until the Niners themselves say something. Who knows, Parker could have thrown in another Clause that kinks the deal again.
I glad you have remain positive but I’ll seen Deals slide backward at the last moment.
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 6, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see it now
Everyone is getting their hopes up just like when we drafted him only to spend the next couple months hating him. Watch York sneeze forgetting to cover his mouth, getting a booger on Crabs one-off designer suit, getting so mad he trounces out of there after signing Michael Crabt…..on the dotted line…..
Basically, don’t count your chickens fellow fans. IF he signs tonight however, then let’s hit the streets rejoicing
by hudd07 on Oct 6, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MM
Chasing Crabtree lol no seriously he and Mindi Bach are currently chasing Crabtree down in the parking lot. Crabs retreated back to where the meeting is taking place.
Okay this is getting to be absolutely epic
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree Apparently
went outside to make a cell phone call lol where he was sited and chased back into the meeting room
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Weeeee shaaaaall not
we shall not be moved.
by jveezy on Oct 6, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
kind of interesting...
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Eugene-Parker-cant-cave-now-2123.html
It will be interesting to see what happens. Parker doesn’t often leave his compound near Fort Wayne, Ind., to do deals face-to-face. This isn’t an ordinary negotiation for him though. If Parker digs his heels in during this meeting, it’s going to get awful interesting because the common ground these parties are looking for figures to be about the size of a postage stamp.
a deal should be done some time sooooon… or see yaa…
NeverForget1984.Com
by Neva Eva Forget 1984 on Oct 6, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This proves that...
Niner fans do want to see Crabtree play for us. I know a lot of us (including me) were starting to just “Eff him, we don’t want him”, but judging from the instant traffic this story is generating, we really do want to see him in camp.
Like Fooch said, if we sucks, well…c’est la vie. But if he’s great, I’d hate to see him to do it with another team.
Even if I was warming up the proposition of Dez Bryant next year. sigh
by RobbieS on Oct 6, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to go off on a tangent
But I can’t tell if I’m more excited about the imminent signing or the fact that I just got retweeted by @49ers_com about the whole thing
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 6, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if you die
if they kill you, does that mean you died?
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL THE 49ER FANS THAT SAY THEY DONT WANT CRABTREE PLEASE....
SLAP YOURSELF FOR EVEN THINKING THAT, ONCE HE’S START SCORING TOUCHDOWNS AND DOES THE MERTIN HANKS DANCE YOU’LL ALL BE SAYING…. MAN I WISH HE DIDNT SIGN WITH US… SLAP!!!
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
over/under
on time it’ll take for fooch to delete this guy
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 6, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
15 minutes
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 6, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pacific Day Light Time Will Be 5:30..
5:30.01…5:30.02…5:30.03…5:30.04
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…it’s Merton Hanks, you rookie.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Oct 6, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALL CAPS!
WHY ARE U YELLING!?
"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004
by rekehavoc on Oct 6, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE LAMP
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
by Mike Hawk on Oct 6, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
MAYBE HE SAT OUT BECAUSE HE DIDNT WANT TO GIVE UP WEED!!!
DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT THAT ONE BRANIAC!!!
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't hear you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 6, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha funny guy....
glad i didnt give you the free tickets now…hahhaha your still coo though… props for taking your time to edit that picture
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually just found it on google images
It still took effort though. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 6, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be a bit too subtle though
…versus the megaphone approach anyhoo.
The future ain't what it used to be. Go Niners!
by riderless on Oct 6, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(not) SALARY CAP
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
by dartdart on Oct 6, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very Funny !!!
Best chuckle of the Day. Thanks
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 6, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I YELL WHEN IM EXCITED!!!!!
uh hu yeah uh hu lol it feels like christmas eve
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you'll calm down if he turns out to be a BUST !!!!
50/ 50 Chance
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 6, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the chances of that are higher than 50% at this point
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Oct 6, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would i calm down?
i have a $100 bet he signs this week. my idiot cowgirl fan friend wished for this not to happen… he can S it now!!!
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$100 ?
That’s a suckers Bet ! Try betting than his guarentee contract goes up $2 Million !
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 6, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, my friend is the sucker that took it.
he also bet me that they wouldnt meet today. to bad he doesnt know about profootball talk and twitter. sucka!!! lol
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sooooo
how many people are refreshing different sites waiting for news?
by pwarren85 on Oct 6, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol i just put Glazeer and Maico and ProFootbaltalk
to text me thru twitter….
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hand up
http://twitter.com/#search?q=crabtree
by jveezy on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here
In reality nothing will probably happen until later tonight or tomorrow at the earliest, but it’s not stopping me. It’s driving me crazy.
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.....
im looking forward to the texans game already!!! 4-1 going into the game… with a package of plays for crab (if he signs the damm thing)
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im on Barrows blog, Maioccos twitter, Schefter's twitter, and so forth.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
never got into twitter
but i guess thats how it goes. f’ing technology. funny how two days ago i didn’t give a shit if he signed or not and now i care.
by pwarren85 on Oct 6, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
aw crap
sorry i cursed fooch. go ahead and send me the time out warning.
by pwarren85 on Oct 6, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is there a list of words we cant use?
???
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cursing
Basically no swearing outside of game threads. Just take a minute or two while typing and if it’s a word your grandmother wouldn’t condone, you probably shouldn’t use it. Unless you’ve got a racy grandmother, in which case use somebody else’s.
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So George Carlin's 7 words you can't say on television are in that list?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Oct 6, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd prefer no
The whole point is that people can take a moment to articulate their arguments in a somewhat clear manner. Swearing does not improve the argument. I think it takes away from the point a person is trying to make. In game threads folks are reacting as things happen, thus the exception.
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't you just follow the rules and not make dumb comments
?
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy there
Better to ask than just do whatever.
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Crabtree have a twitter account???
does anyone know? how bout his cousin pookie?
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From Adam Schefter
Adam_Schefter : 49ers and Crabtree’s rep meeting. Still. Clearly the two sides have plenty to discuss. My hunch, for what it’s worth, is a deal’s coming.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
DEAL IS DONE
LOL Just kidding. I know that is messed up lol
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Darn you.
For a split second you had me.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Was Going To Cite A Fake
source and let you all flip out for a second. But i am too nice of a guy lol
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Man im going to get fired for this....
i should be wroking!!!
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Its Overtime now...
milk it milk it milk it……..
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 6, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
maiocco says
An unnamed individual w/ key role in the events of the day — the person running interference for both York and Crabtree — just left alone.
wtf.
by pwarren85 on Oct 6, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone know
the rules that nfl reporters have to stick to in order to avoid fines?
by pwarren85 on Oct 6, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just heard from an unnamed source
Maiocco is the unnamed Crabtree confidant. He’s a traitor, get him!
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 6, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I am dying to know who this unnamed individual is. I’m so nosey LOL
by GeeMunster on Oct 6, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Deep Throat, huh?
Anyone care to give a new, appropriate knickname?
by MinerNiner on Oct 6, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great movie
The plot was kinda weak but I loved the actions scenes.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 6, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep posting updates on here guys....
I REFUSE to join Twitter.
by hudd07 on Oct 6, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you're willing to pay the price
then I salute your resolve.
Me? I’ve been tweeting like a baby bird for months.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 6, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me? I’ve been tweeting like a baby bird for months.
why?
by swerv on Oct 6, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
I’m against the whole “am now walking down street” “sitting on patio readin book” nonsense but it’s nice to have a ton of members of the press and a few players on your Twitter. Where else will Takeo Spikes talk to me for about an hour about his awesome celebration?
by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
do you get texts when someone you are following “tweets” (is that right)? Or do you have to actually go online to read tweets? Is it like facebook where you log in and people’s updates you are following on on there?
by hudd07 on Oct 6, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
You can get texts for certain people if you want, you pick who you have mobile alerts for. For instance, I have Maiocco, Barrows and Adam Schefter on mobile alert and the rest I just check emails for. When you login, you see everybody’s updates they’ve made as well as the “tweets” they’ve made to others.
For instance, right now, here’s what my Twitter looks like. And yes, I follow Ocho Cinco because he’s hilarious.
by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just comes down
to the fact that it can be pretty self aggrandizing, but I enjoy a lot of topics that can be updated and enjoyed within the confines of 140 characters, like football signings, politics and cool celebrities/comedians.
Technology, with very few exceptions, are what you make of it.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 6, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When should/will Crabtree see action?
I think we can teach him a few plays just to get him seeing game action as quickly as possible. With a few simple plays in which he can be the 3rd WR and just run a slant or a quick screen, we can just get the defense thinking about him. Once he gets the ball in his hands, he will certainly be more dangerous than our other WRs.
Doubt Raye will be willing to do that though. I bet they’ll try to start phasing him in after the bye week next week. Thoughts?
by thefaithful on Oct 6, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
He won’t play this week, this even if he signs this second. He needs to learn the playbook, meet and practice with the team and get some continuity down with Hill. I can see them phasing him in after the bye week against the Texans, playing a little bit more against the Colts. And then having a full fledged impact against the Titans in about a month. But that is just me
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
even if he doesn’t suit up, as I’m assuming he would be inactive, it would be great to see him on the sideline this week.
by thefaithful on Oct 6, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone watching CSNBA?
Eric Davis is giving an exclusive interview with news about the negotiations. Quick!
by MinerNiner on Oct 6, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Argh
Can’t, great baseball game is on.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 6, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I switched over for a second
But the interview was already over.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 6, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, this is a very good one.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
by Beaushek on Oct 6, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone left the hotel?
what is happening?
by goatfather on Oct 6, 2009 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
According to Maiocco:
GM of hotel says everyone has left. There’s nothing here.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 6, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are they just going to resume things in the morning?
Or does this mean they’re at another impasse?
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 6, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They went down to Kinko's to make copies of the contract.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 6, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very funny Bob!
The future ain't what it used to be. Go Niners!
by riderless on Oct 6, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be fake?
Maybe to get the media away?
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could have signed...
Possibly. They probably wouldn’t announce it in the parking lot. Probably would just wait and send out a press release. Or hold a press conference.
by agchee on Oct 6, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
... what
MattMaiocco Final twist: The guy with York and Crabtree, whom I thought looked a lot like M.C. Hammer . . . might actually have been M.C. Hammer.
by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MattMaiocco: And that explains why he seemed offended when I introduced myself and asked him for his name. Sorry, Hammer. My bad.
by sundaysfinest on Oct 6, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because he...
goes where he wants to go, says what he wants to say, sign when he wants to sign, plays when he wants to play, smiles when he wants to smile, holding out for a while, The Crabtree Family!!!
by Ovalshine on Oct 6, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just when we thought this whole holdout deal couldn’t get any weirder…well, it can. it just did.
by thefaithful on Oct 6, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 6, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hammer's hanging out, relaxing on Warren's dime after his gig at Hardly Strictly Bluegrass over the weekend.
He played the first day.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 6, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im so confused...
MC Hammer???
"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004
by rekehavoc on Oct 6, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Are you suppose to be laughing while you’re confused??
by agchee on Oct 6, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOHOO!!! ITS OVER!!! ITS ABOUT TIME!!
twins won
by sundaysfinest on Oct 6, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate you!!
When I read the first line I thought you were referring to confirmation that Crabtree had signed. :-(
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 6, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
What a game...
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 6, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
Finally!
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 6, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MC Hammer
it actually could be him…he’s scheduled to play the fresno fair with Tone Loc on Monday Oct 12
haha…is he represented by Eugene Parker too?
lol! that’s just awesome
by swerv on Oct 6, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait... MC HAMMER???
I need some explanation.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hammer and Sanders
Were in that video in the 90s…
The saga continues
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
by dartdart on Oct 6, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Six degrees
To Michael Crabtree
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
by dartdart on Oct 6, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Hammer
Produce Deion Record Must be the Money?
by GeeMunster on Oct 6, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot
to mention that Deion onced loaned Hammer $500,000.
by GeeMunster on Oct 6, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering.
Should 49ers fans rejoice when he signs?
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Oct 6, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go with yes
Niners don’t get anything if he doesn’t sign, and he was a playmaker in college. All signs point to “just enjoy it” and don’t dwell on the past.
by DiegoAsFan on Oct 6, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you, Diego.
But, what is the team going to really get? A TO type of player or a John Taylor type who was quiet and just made the big plays? No doubt, he was a great player in college.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Oct 6, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
I’ve finally nailed down all the excitement- this feels like all the respect we haven’t been getting all finally on the brink of breaking through into the mainstream. It isn’t the hotshot 1st round receiver, it’s the fact that not having signed him feels like it reflects poorly on the 49ers, reminding us just how far we’ve come from the glory days when players would take pay cuts to come play in the bay.
Even though I know better, I can’t wait to hear the signing has gone through for the latest (in what is hopefully a string) of events after which to be proud of the niners after so many seasons of shame and shattered expectations.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 6, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And
we all know how good this team is right now…
Just imagine if we had Crabtree from the get-go. I know nothing is guaranteed, but I believe he would have made an impact — and still can.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It Really Has Nothing To Do With The 49ers
It is all about Crabtree thinking that he got shunned in the draft and deserved to be picked much higher and also that he made a mistake coming out of the draft in 2009, especially after injuring himself prior to the declaration deadline. I think it’s his handlers that have also misled him into making this error in judgment. He now knows what we all had known for the last few weeks. That if he were to re enter the draft in 2010 he would be a late 1st round pick at the very earliest meaning the guaranteed money he would receive would have been less then 1/5 of what the 49ers have offered, this assuming that some team would have taken him in the late 1st round without him interviewing or working out with them and not taking part in the combine.
It has absolutely nothing to do with weather or not the 49ers have fallen from grace in terms of reputation around the league. Which in of itself couldn’t really have been questioned before Singletary and the younger York took over. Patrick Willis’ first interview as the 49er was on of excitement in which he talked about bringing the 49ers back to the top of the NFL. When Frank Gore was drafted he said pretty much the same thing, this also goes for Nate Clements and Justin Smith when they signed. The reputation the 49ers have had in the past as winners and the proverbial gold standard still remains even within the younger generation of football players. And now that they are on this new path this reputation will only continue to grow.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean
I cerebrally know that, but to watch national coverage, it doesn’t feel like it.
I feel like this is the last barrier to national legitimacy.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 6, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I get Your Point
National legitimacy. I remember it took us forever to get that respect on a national level in the early 80’s too, or at least that’s what my dad tells me, i was just a diaper pooper though. It really doesn’t matter if the national press get’s on board. A lot of these younger athletes grew up in an athletic family or have a parent that either coach, played or followed the NFL. I doubt very much that ANY incoming rookie or free agent would compare the 49ers to the likes of the Lions, Raiders or Browns. This even at our absolute worse in the Nolan era.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More from the Hammer/Crabtree madness
MattMaiocco: I was trailing the play by 30 yards, but hotel staff tells me Crabtree said to MC Hammer as he stepped in SUV, “Get it done.”
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So......
Hammer is really Parker??
by sundaysfinest on Oct 6, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows..
I’m trying to get Matt to confirm it was really Hammer.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
being optimistic
maybe Crabtree said “Got it done”
by sundaysfinest on Oct 6, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, so we just signed MC Hammer instead of Crabtree?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 6, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
You can't touch him
Sounds like a player I’d want to have.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What The Heck?
I left for a bit and something broke out with MC Hammer? Are you saying that he was the 3rd party? Too legit 2Quite? Really? And now hotel staff are the sources for MM.
I think we have the makings of the absolute best sports movie ever.
“Any Given Sunday” meets “Get Rich Or Die Trying”
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Maiocco:If memory serves . . . Deion Sanders lived in MC Hammer’s Fremont mansion in 1994 when Deion played for 49ers.
by sundaysfinest on Oct 6, 2009 7:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
They are homeboys and I mentioned earlier that Deion loaned Hammer $500,000. When Hammer filed for bankruptcy some years ago, he had list his debts and the money from Deion was one of them.
by GeeMunster on Oct 6, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Link for you all
Discussions Move To Another Spot
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting..
Said meetings could go on through the night…
Sounds to me like they are working out the small things and that Crabtree has agreed to sign.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reports Out
Of The Ticket in Dallas once again. Say that Crabtree will probably agree to the terms of the contract tonight with the press conference being set for noon time or so in Santa Clara. The ticket provided me that earlier tidbit regarding the 3rd party bringing the sides together and this also fits what Matt Borrows said earlier that they will come to terms tonight and have a press release at some point announcing a press conference for tomorrow. Stay tuned
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ticket in Dallas
I am listening to it on my computer. I will attempt to provide a link. At the very least to the station that streamed this information. I apologize for no link but i wanted to put it out there as i did earlier in the day. It is an ESPN affiliate if i am not mistaken
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
Well I hope they’re right..
All of this excitement is killing me!
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone
Tweeted that Crabtree has signed and will be at practice tomorrow but this source is obviously not confirmed and easily fake. Just wanted to throw it out there as MM was throwing out bellhops as sources lol
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bout time for a new thread Fooch?
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one of importance, well that i am aware of.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also said
Crabtree signed 24 hours ago…
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I Just Got That Now
Hey man i am new to this whole Twitter stuff. Plus i was kinda making a pun on MM quoting bellhops as sources.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously..
What the hell am I supposed to do for the Nuggets in the morning? I don’t know what to link to, I don’t know how to summarize anything that’s going on. MC Hammer? How do I fit that in? You guys are on your own.
by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A bunch of links to MC Hammer music vids.
Win.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want
Too Legit2quit. And the the video with Latoya prancing around in a bikini. PLEASE
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll see what I can do.
Also, I’m not kidding. Lets hope Fooch has a sense of humor.
by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I better get credit
for this idea.
:P
by mountaindew77 on Oct 6, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Will Get Credit From Me
For what it’s worth LOL
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not.
I had this idea from the moment I read “MC H…”
by Ninjames on Oct 6, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CONFESSION
If the dude isn’t a b-o-o-n-d-o-g-g-l-e by this time next year I’ll eat my hat, wear an ‘I love Brett Farve’ T-shirt to poker night and apologize to the entire Niners Nation for dissing him.
I hope I have to, but we’ll see.
The future ain't what it used to be. Go Niners!
by riderless on Oct 6, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Listening to 680 KNBR now... Because I'm desperate to hear the news...
You never know… they might just announce it on the radio !!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on Oct 6, 2009 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it will be 3
a.m before I get the news over here on the east coast. There is no way in the world I’m waiting up that late to catch hammer giving an interview on espn about his involvement in all of this. You know you have to wonder why the sudden change in heart? Something gave….the question is what was it? I’m glad that crabtree is about to sign(hopefully) but for the life of me I can’t help but wonder what happened? Did he get clearance from a doctor on his foot? I seriously doubt Eugene parker said “okay they called our bluff lets go sign”. Did crabtree tree finally grow some balls and say enough is enough..I’m a winner and I want to play? You dont just sense up in the blink of an eye and do a complete 180 is all im saying. wondering…..
"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"
by ninerfanNVA on Oct 6, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Jets pulled their secret deal that is a secret to no one
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on Oct 6, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha maybe
or maybe the 49ers did cave in and go a little higher.
"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"
by ninerfanNVA on Oct 6, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a little of both
Funny how all of a sudden Crabtree wants to make it happen. What is the big hurry now? They have till Nov 12th as I understand it. Maybe somebody told the kid he’s losing over a mil a game ! That would get me on a plane pretty quick !
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on Oct 6, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
T-Shirt Possibility...
We already had VD! – Now we have Crabs!
by J-House on Oct 6, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
New Thread Up
The Hammer development deserves a new thread!
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/10/6/1074205/the-only-thing-to-make-the-michael
by Fooch on Oct 6, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is more entertaining than I could have dreamed
Now the question is…will Crabby Cakes’ playing be more interesting than this thread?
by RobbieS on Oct 6, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets Put A Rest To This For the Night
I bet
he signed a contract tonight and it will be announced tomorrow. Who wants to put $50 on it?
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 6, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Done Deal
Yep – It’s a done deal as of late last night/early this morning. 6 years…financial terms not yet disclosed. Crabby reports for practice today.
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/10/crabtree-signs-up-for-6-years.html
by StereoPete on Oct 7, 2009 7:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
just saw
just saw 6 years $32 million base. Haven’t guaranteed yet.
by cdecker49 on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry
haven’t seen guaranteed yet. sorry
by cdecker49 on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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