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49ers Turnovers and Sacks of 2009. Part 1 of 4, or 5.

I originally was planning on making this to post as a FanShot, but it took me way too long to make. I am posting it as a FanPost in hopes that it gets enough attention to make me forget how long it took to put together.

Enjoy,

 

 

One thing that I noticed is that Ray McDonald seems to be in on a huge amount of these plays, as has been discussed by NN.  Also, the coverage down field is playing a huge part in giving the opposing QB's nowhere to throw the ball on their first read.

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Our D is awsome I absolutely enjoy

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 7, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's currently our Defensive player of the year, yes ahead of Willis!

He may be the most improved player of the year!

"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!

by rlott#42 on Oct 7, 2009 2:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would definitely agree,

That he is the most improved.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Pretty Strong Statement !

Although he is playing very well. In fact , the whole defense is playing GREAT !

by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 7, 2009 2:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

reply fail

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks amazing!

Morgan breaks through in 2009!

by grantmp on Oct 7, 2009 5:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man.

For a guy who just had offseason knee surgery and missed most of training camp, McDonald’s been a beast.

by sfgfan on Oct 7, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

He’d been playing the last 3 years with a non-functioning ACL. Apparently it got bad enough last season at about game 10 that they decided to do surgery during the offseason. It’s totally crazy that he’s playing the way he is so recently after the surgery—and that nobody is talking about this. This is the same surgery that keeps lesser men (coughTom Bradycough) out entire seasons.

Morgan breaks through in 2009!

by grantmp on Oct 7, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

talking about it

I will take credit for having a post up last week about the impact he’s making!

I agree this deserves more talk.

by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank You.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Pablo's not fat. He's just got body.

by LeMasterBlaster on Oct 8, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For all the crap Franklin gets here

It’s amazing how often he’s in the thick of things.

by smileyman on Oct 7, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I don’t understand. He’s been pretty good this year.

by bignerd on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

… not asking him to two-gap so often (or at all), has really helped his game. It seems like he’s always been more in the mold of an attacking lineman than a eat up space guy.

by sfgfan on Oct 8, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Lawson on that fumble

He reads the play perfectly and puts a punishing hit on the guy.

by mountaindew77 on Oct 7, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was the most badass thing I’ve ever seen. Props to you, Sultan of Seitan!

by DuikeBuike on Oct 7, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post,

Fooch, can you front page this? lots of work.

They're called RUNS for a reason.

by connie mack on Oct 7, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good call

Should have done it earlier…I’ll find a time in the next day or two to get it up there

by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

nice work Sultan

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Oct 7, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is amazing

Nice work. You know who doesn’t get enough credit on the STL muffed punt TD? Jason Hill. He puts a nice hit on one of the STL guys that knocks out the only two guys on their team that could make a play.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

by marcello on Oct 7, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I felt the same,

I put an arrow on him but they play was moving so fast that I think it could be easy to miss.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question

Is this from the NFL.com Replay Cutter?

by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a subscription to NFL Game Rewind.

I used Camtasia studios to screen record and splice.
It’s the first video I’ve made so it’s still kinda rough. After watching it a few times I saw a lot of places that I could have made improvements.

I think I’m going to include big hits and pass deflections in the next 3, or hopefully 4.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love seeing Favre get sacked… but you know, I really have to say: I remember that play when it happened and I keep thinking about how good of a job Favre does of protecting the football there. I know he’s something like the NFL career turnover leader, and I hate complimenting him for anything, but the way he rolls the ball away from the defender at the last possible second really is a nice move to watch.

This was an excellent video overall. I usually don’t like this sort of thing, but this was very, very well made.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 7, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well he appears to be a changed man

Favre has 311 interceptions over his career.

This year, just one (though one that he should have had was negated for a ticky-tack pass interference call).

by smileyman on Oct 7, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus our two drops and a third near miss

He’ll get more once he plays good defenses, as he did when he played us.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 9, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to walterfootball.com

Brett Favre has thrown like 15 easily interceptable balls this season….too many drops.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 9, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bly and Clements both dropped an INT in which they jumped the pattern. I think there was another Brett Favre pass the 49ers defense got their hands on but could not reel in.

by bignerd on Oct 9, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

He mentioned that there were 3-4 dropped INTs

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 9, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic idea

Great work dude.

There’s not enough good 49ers videos out there.

I hope to see many more of these?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That is the plan,

If the offense wasn’t so anemic I’d make one for them as well.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to go a step further and break each of these plays down (I'm bored at work)

1) nice play by P-willy
2) Smith gets the great initial push that makes Warner uncomfortable. Should have been a strip sack (attempt at least) with the rusher coming from where Warner wasn’t looking.
3) McDonald actually prevents the sack by running into someone, can’t tell who it was, Parys probably but Manny disrupts a throw that never should have been attempted in the first place
4) Lawson gets the great outside pressure that forces Warner to step up into Smith and McDonald. So often a sack is caused by a player who won’t receive the statistical credit
5) Just a great stunt by Smith, God it felt good watching that one happen!
6) McDonald might have gotten away with a hands to the face there, but hey, it was a heck of a move. That’s a true individual sack right there
7) Lawson gets good pressure, ball shoulda been caught but again, Goldson showing his knack for being in the right place at the right time. WILSON!!!!! Not shown in this replay, Michael Lewis’s great block on Burleson during the attempted runback
8) Mark Roman? that’s good defensive scheming, F@#$^#$^ You Favre 9) Hoo-Ray for Ray! It looks like they just overloaded the LG and McDonald did a good job of bouncing to the inside and getting those big mitts up. Clements did a nice job of scooping the ball on the run... 10) Good pressure from Manny forces F#$^#!@$^vre to step up into Franklin, yeah NT sacks!!
11) Spencer does a good job of tracking the ball down. Couldn’t tell if it bounced off a niner’s hands or the WR. More of a Viking mistake than anything, but hey, I’ll take it.
12) Willis does a great job of avoiding Jackson, one of the better blocking RBs in the league. Nice to see him blitzing some more
13) Really mostly a colossal Rams error but give Jason Hill credit for flying down the field to knock whichever Ram kicked the ball into Danny A. so that neither Ram has a chance to recover the ball. Way to go McKillop for recovering at the bottom of that pile. According to Sando he’s the first NFC West rookie to score this season…didn’t see that coming.
14) Nice burst from Spikes but give credit to Brooks and Smith for also being on the scene
15) Good pressure from the niners, though the Rams actually did a pretty good job up picking up the blitz. This might have been a coverage sack more than anything.
16) Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb play by Boller, but nice instincts and reactions by Willis, you gotta catch that ball to score that touchdown.
17) I give McDonald full credit for executing that difficult scoop and run but not enough people are giving Lawson his due for staying true to his assignment, reading the reverse, penetrating into the back field and hitting Danny A. to ensure that the ball was free
18) did that play happen? I didn’t see the game, was that a fumble? If so, good job
19) Great, athletic play by Willis with McKillop cleaning up the crumbs

So that’s 18 turnovers and sacks through 4 games, which puts us on pace for 72 this year. I say we can do better, but that’s a damn good start

Awesome video compilation by the way

by foosball4949 on Oct 8, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

#18.

Wasn’t a fumble, sack by credited to goldson down by contact.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 8, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

#13

What’s interesting is what Keenan Burton didn’t do on that play—namely take the safety. It reminded me of a play that Josh Morgan made last year; same situation, only he had the presence of mind to kick it out of the end zone rather than risk a TD.

Morgan breaks through in 2009!

by grantmp on Oct 8, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I figured,

The ball was only like 2 ft into the endzone when he first tried to pick it up. He probably would have been able to at least take the safety if Jason Hill hadn’t shown up.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 8, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rule question

That I wondered during the game. If the Rams had recovered that muff in the end zone or batted the ball through it, wouldn’t that have been a touchback? Had they actually had possession and fumbled, then it is a safety. But on punts, because a muff means there was no complete possession (and thus no advancement by the kicking team) the momentum of the ball is allowed to go into the end zone even if it touches the receiving team (which then made it a live ball but still eligible for a touchback).

If this is correct, the Rams players would’ve been wise to help bat it through the end zone or just find a way to recover it.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 9, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my understanding

is that the possibility of a touchback ends when the ball is touched by a receiving team player outside the end zone. That makes it a live ball. If the returner had settled in the end zone, muffed it, recovered it, and was downed it would be a touchback because the kick’s own momentum took the ball into the end zone.

Morgan breaks through in 2009!

by grantmp on Oct 9, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have read you comment before writing my own. I agree with this.

by sfgfan on Oct 9, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Rams had recovered that muff in the end zone or batted the ball through it, wouldn’t that have been a touchback?

It is my understanding that if the possession team deliberately kicks/puts the ball out of the endzone, the play is ruled a safety.

Similarly, I always assumed that if the ball is touched in the field of play, regardless if the player had full possession or not, and the ball rolls into the end zone and is recovered there by the receiving team, that is should be ruled a safety.

by sfgfan on Oct 9, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree about the illegal bat out of the end zone

But am pretty sure if the momentum of the ball goes in the end zone, even after a muff by the receiving team, it’s a touchbackif recovered by the receving team. After a muff on a punt, it becomes a live ball same as a kick off, where the kicking team can recover but not advnace. On kickoffs, even if the ball hits the returner, so long as the momentum carries it into the end zone the returner may still down it for a touchback.

But I can’t say I know 100% for sure.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 9, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But am pretty sure if the momentum of the ball goes in the end zone, even after a muff by the receiving team, it’s a touchbackif recovered by the receving team.

I think that if momentum carried the ball in BY ITSELF into the endzone and was recovered, it’d be a touchback. However, I think the second it hits a receiving team player, it’s considered a live ball.

If I’m not mistaken, kick off rules are even more different than punts. I think that on a kick off, the ball is considered live even if the receiving team doesn’t touch the ball. I could definitely be wrong here, though.

And by “live,” I mean that it’s treated like a regular fumble. I’m not entirely sure about the whole kicking team advancing it thing.

by sfgfan on Oct 9, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kickoffs

It’s live after ten yards or sooner if the receving team touches it. But it still can not be advanced by the kicking team unless it’s a fumble, otherwise it’s treated the same as muffed punt.

I think the big question about the punt is momentum. I viewed the play as carrying itself into the endzone after hitting a Ram since the kick was not intentional, but that may not be the technical definition in the rule book.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 9, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really appreciate the video

A nice summary for the first quarter of this season.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 9, 2009 1:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice work for sure

Sultan of Seitan…. well done. Hope to see more vids like it in future posts.

Rec’d absolutely

by Drew K on Oct 9, 2009 2:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks a lot for this!

This will be helpful during the offseason when it is really boring. We will know who got sacks on which team and the situation it happen.

Go 49ers

by iaalexeeff on Oct 10, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah!

Good idea.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 10, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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