Michael Crabtree officially signs contract with 49ers: Our long national nightmare is over
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 7:39 AM PDT
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PrintFOOCH'S UPDATE: I made a slight change to the headline. The 49ers just sent out a press release officially announcing Michael Crabtree signed a six-year contract. No dollar figures announced yet.
Multiple sources are stating that Michael Crabtree has agreed to a 6-year contract with YOUR San Francisco 49ers. Adam Schefter is reporting it for ESPN, but more importantly (in my mind), Matt Maiocco and Matt Barrows are both reporting it as well (and I just noticed Barrows also went with the similar lead in). When things are going good for a franchise, a groundswell of good times starts adding up, and we are starting to see that here in the San Francisco.
We'll have plenty more about Crabtree as this changes things a bit going forward for the offense, in my opinion. Crabtree might not do much of anything this season given his holdout, and given the tendency of first year wide receivers to struggle. And yet, I do think Michael Crabtree is a special talent. I could see the team giving him a few plays in the playbook to master initially just to get him out there and making plays. I don't know what those plays are, but I think there are ways to make Crabtree an incredibly useful rookie.
On a separate note, I called Deion Sanders an attention whore the other day. As those who read the article should recall, I also said that even if he proved right, it doesn't make his actions any better. Maybe whore was an improperly strong term, but I still think he was an unnecessary attention monger in this whole thing. In the end it was his connection to MC Hammer that might have gotten this thing done (never thought I'd be saying that). But it NEVER should have gone on this long. As I said a couple days ago, I can let bygones be bygones with Michael Crabtree. He's a young kid who finally came to his senses. Deion Sanders though, has moved on to my "list." He's a fool who simply wanted attention in this whole thing and that I don't like.
I know somebody thought we should just call Crabtree "The Hammer" from now on. Not sure if we will or not long term, but for now, It's Hammer Time!
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Said with my pinky at the corner of my mouth Dr. Evil style
I guess you could say the 49ers and Crabtree “Hammered out” a deal?
by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Oct 7, 2009 7:34 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Or that Crabtree is 2 legit 2 quit on the Niners?
Or that Crabby finally wanted to tell defenders, “You can’t touch this.”?
The list goes on, it will never stop.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing Deion's learned from this experience
He probably thought he was being a good reporter to find exclusive stuff and just didn’t think it through. Bringing in Hammer was just trying to make it right.
I agree we shouldn’t expect anything out of Crabtree this year. But this is a great move for the future! Unless they caved to him… but I doubt that happened.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
Singletary
I think we have the perfect coach to keep Crabtree in line.
by 49RFAN on Oct 7, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Crabtree is a niner (site decroum) Yeah!!!!!
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 7, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed...
…In fact, let’s see if Crabby can run a pro route, which he rarely had to do at Texas Tech. About the only thing he did there was catch bubble screens, which is why I’m optimistic he can do at least that.
He ran a few slants ;-)
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
And probably some "Go"s
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
But he has never caught a pass up the middle with and NFL LB or CB
hitting him from 10 yards out on a dead run.
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 7, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean Pain, right?
Or as Bamm Bamm calls it, the Ninja?
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 7, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Deion is a loudmouth, but what else is new? He’s still one of the most exciting players I’ve ever seen, and hands-down the most exciting defensive player of my generation.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
Neon Deion
He was good when he was on our team. When he went to Dallas and talking all that smack, he was very easily hated. I like the players who just go out there and give it their all without all the drama caused my them opening their mouths. Or getting in trouble with the law.
Good smack
I remember seeing Deion and McKyer being interviewed together after “The Blanket” went to the Falcons. While they were both talking a lot of smack, I noticed that McKyer put down everyone else he could think of. Deion talked confidently about himself, but refrained from putting others down.
I thought that was classy. Seemed pretty consistent to me over his career.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
It turns out to be a five and a half year deal
And he can get out of the sixth year with meeting certain criteria. How realistic those are will say how realistic the sixth year is.
by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 7, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Regardless, adding the sixth year onto this deal could very nearly make up for the time lost.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
The happiest person today has to be TexasTech10
Jets trade for Edwards on the same day Crabtree is signed. Way to give yourself away.
Crabtree's Face
Has anyone else noticed that Crabtree never looks happy in a 49ers-related photo?
Go ahead, look at them all. He always looks really uncomfortable.
how many times has he even been in a SF uniform so far, twice?
"We’ll see them again in the playoffs." - Mike Singletary, right after the Week 3 Minnesota game
That looks goooood right ther
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
A caption this shot
Mike says in his best Will Smith MIB impression. ..“… I make this look good…”
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 7, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
There were the pictures...
… from one of the first minicamps where the guys here at NinersNation turned it into a caption contest. He seemed to be joking and smiling with someone.
yeah, that was Crabtree laughing at the idea of Alex Smith beating out Shaun Hill for the starting QB job
"We’ll see them again in the playoffs." - Mike Singletary, right after the Week 3 Minnesota game
This one?
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
There was at least one or two more that seemed to be snapped at the same moment(s).
thanks again Oakland
lol Oakland. just saying thier name makes me laugh
NINERS 4 LIFE
by LADubbz45 on Oct 7, 2009 7:56 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
No way he plays...
Hell, I’ll be happy if he doesn’t pull a hammy right away. Rookie WRs tend to do that.
I think JR would be decent to good if he had people that would get open and catch the ball
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 7, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Heyward-Bey has only caught 11% of the passes intended for him so far
Pretty mind blowing.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
OAKLOLAND
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
2 Legit...
… like this nickname better. But holy hell, is Crabtree gonna get hazed at practice with MC Hammer references. For some reason I see Takeo leading the charge.
Maybe they’ll make him dance in front the team wearing puffy pants. They still owe him for all the hazing he dodged in training camp by holding out.
coinicedence, i think not
anyone else think it is suspicious that the day that Crabtree signs, the Jets, who the 49ers filed tampering charges against, trade for a #1 WR in Braylon Edwards?
I disagree
After the tampering accusation, there is no way the Jets would have made a move on Crabtree anyway.
This is probably a coincidence. I still hope Goodell sees it differently, but he won’t, that new york cronie.
I can't really call it
There is definitely some coincidence that Edwards’ stock plummeted at the same time Crabtree signed his deal. If you were looking for a good deal on a possible #1 receiver there was no better time to buy on Edwards than right now.
Accidental coincidence
Yet perfect karmic payback. Just because MC signed doesn’t mean the Jets shouldn’t be punished for tampering. If we have a better record than them this year, they should be forced to swap 1st round draft picks with us.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
they should be forced to swap 1st round draft picks with us.
I think you mean give us a 1st round pick. :)
I don't expect Goodell to come down that hard
Especially since MC did sign. He forced us to swap picks (4th round I believe) with Chicago allowing them to move up. I’d take the same if it’s in the 1st round and we move up higher.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I agree
I don’t think we’re getting any extra picks. We might get to swap if they have a higher pick than us in a later round. They might get docked a late pick, but they won’t award us extra picks.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
The real reason Edwards just went to New York
Edwards just punched LeBron James’ friend outside a night club. So, they have to send Edwards elsewhere to keep James happy in Cleveland (really, the only good thing in Cleveland), and ideally to NYC, so he doesn’t want to go there. They should have Edwards leave threatening voicemails on James’ answering machine. Regardless, it’s not going to work. James is leaving… unless they win a championship this year, in which case he’s still probably leaving.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
so i guess...
Edwards will get traded again next year when LeBron signs with the Knicksor Nets.
Here’s to Crabtree being a fast learner.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
Teach him some fly patterns
After the first TD our run game will get surprisingly better.
by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 7, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
THE NIGHTMARE IS JUST BEGINNING!
NOOOOOOO!
SAY IT AIN’T SO!
WHY SIGN A KNOWN CRYBABY? WHY SIGN A PROVEN DIVA? WHY SIGN A PROBABLE CANCER?
CONGRATULATIONS, BOYS. YOU WANTED A WR AND GOT A FASHION DESIGNER WANNA-BE. NOW WHICH HARD WORKING NINER ARE YOU GOING TO CUT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THIS POSER?
please just stop and use some common sense
Crabtree>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spurlock. Spurlock is going to get cut. Seriously dude.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
LoL
You think Singletary will play him if he has a diva attitude?
See: Vernon Davis. Crabtree will be fine.
+1
We all know Coah Sing will take any nonsense and I doubt Crabtree would cause problems anyway.
I don't see Crabtree causing problems either
but with Sing,, missing a block, tackle,catch, or just not playing heads up smart football is all that it will take. If he fight through that and “improve” or get better then all be right in Crabtree’s world.
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 7, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Known crybaby?
Proven diva? Probably cancer?
Based on what? Him not knowning [site decorum] from apple butter?
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 7, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea, I think some of the characterizations are going overboard
Crabtree decided to hold out on his contract which was a business decision. Was it a poor business decision? Probably. But it doesn’t mean he is a bad person or even a bad football player. People have jumped to a lot of conclusions about him but from the only information we have about him as a football player (ie. his play at Tech, reports from former coaches) he has shown to be a good hardnosed receiver. He has been willing to dig in and block downfield as well as go in to traffic for a catch.
The fact is we have very little evidence of Crabtree himself doing or saying anything to suggest he is a crybaby or a cancer. He held out in an attempt to get a better contract, and there were some rumors from anonymous sources on pretty dysfunctional franchises. I don’t think it’s ridiculous to wait a little bit and let Crabtree define for himself what kind of player or teammate he will be.
I agree with your assesment of his potential as a player especially as a Forty Niner
Most people would agree that holding out for more $ is in fact a business decision however the nature of the holdout, the underlying reason for the hold out ( wanting more $ than is slot deserved..just because he thought he deserved it) and the tampering charges against the Jets and the celebrity connections tended to make this a real circus act rather than a simple hold out situation..
However all of that is now water under the bridge as they and I will be wanting to see how quickly he can get into playing shape. Remember although he may have been working out he has been in pads and seen contact in nearly a year and he has never practiced with the team and rellay has no clue as to how he will fit into this offense. I quite sure he will not step onto the field in a game until coach Sing has a chance to evaluate him using his own criteria as a gauge. And when the time comes he for damn sure had better be ready. .
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 7, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to this weekend's game, my first in 15 years.
Honestly, is there any chance at all that he gets on the field for one play, maybe two?
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 7, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions
doubtful
More than likely they get a roster exception where he can practice with the team, not play in the game and not count towards the 53-man roster. They get through next week’s bye and then he debuts fittingly for him, down in Texas (@ Houston)
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
That's most likely the case
which sucks because they could teach him some basic patterns this week to get him out on the field sunday, but that’s probably not going to happen. I’d really like to see what he can do
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
It would be fun to see him
But more than learning the playbook I think Crabtree needs time to work into football shape. The last thing I’d want is to hustle him onto the field for a couple bubble screens this week and see him pull a hamstring trying to accelerate or make a cut. Even if he has stayed in great shape it’s hard to get your body ready for running for your life on a football field during individual workouts.
He ran for his life from maiocco lol
but yeah, I see what you mean. It’s a lot smarter to give him 2 weeks to prepare for action than to throw him out there 5 days after he signs. This is just the impatient football fan in me speaking.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Agreed
Plus what kind of message does it send that a guy does not participate in OTAs due to health, misses all of training camp and four weeks of practices but you’ll plug him in right away? He’s got to practice and earn his time just liek everyone else. And as you said, we don’t want him getting hurt like Smith did two days after signing with the Bengals.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I'm planning on attending the game here in Houston.
Hopefully by then he’ll get to play a few snaps in that one. Also, I’m curious to see the reaction from the local Texas crowd. Although Lubbock is a long ways away, I think Crabs was pretty popular throughout the state.
now that we have crabs...
joining VD…it’s official. say hello to the new 49ers mascot, syphilis sid:
and, in place of the “formula for success,” will now be posted:
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Oct 7, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions
Two new signings to the practice squad
Seth Phylis and Jonny Rhea
A bad case of Coach Mike Dysentery can be fatal....
not to mention a bloody colon.
by FiveAlarmFreddy on Oct 7, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That will be the real test of his commitment to the TEAM
Blocking assignments and supporting roles before you get to be DA MAN. Don’t get me wrong, I want to succeed and make a strong contribution to the success of the team, but my gut tells me that he will face the wrath of Sing before he understands that this team is about TEAM WORK and ME WORK.
you guys all laughed at my avatar and sig
dont wanna say I told you so…but I told you so. Can’t wait to see him catching TD passes for us. Very exciting news.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I agree
Can’t wait to see an above-average offensive weapon on OUR side of the ball for once.
IMHO – I believe he’ll be starting sooner than we all think. Not that he’d be a primary target, but I would not be surprised to see him in on up to half of the passing plays – JUST to run routes and pull coverage off IB and JM. Heck…I do that with Hill on Madden all the time! No intention of hitting him – I just want to spread the D!
We’ll see though…
I would guarantee
that we’ll see him in Houston.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
That Gore guy
Is fairly above average.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm happy its over... or am I?
It seems like just yesterday we were all so angry with this guy…. the was yesterday!! This better be for real!! Like he better be at practice in a 49er uniform real!!
We all felt that way...
A few days ago I was actually wishing that he WOULD reenter the draft, and hopefully get picked by whoever we open the season with next year.
But, in honor of Coach Sing, I’ll welcome him with open arms. He’s part of the family now, so we should all at least try to back him for now. If he did all this and is a bust, however, we should crucify him.
I was never angry at him
I thought he was an idiot, but I was never angry with him. I have remained firm in my belief that the people who didn’t want him were idiots.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Yeah...
I would be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed, but the fact is it’s the kid’s name being drug through the mud when the people actually making these decisions will never play a single down.
Starting now, his actions reflect directly on him on not his agent, his advisers, or for the love of all things holy, the Funky Headhunter
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
Any info on the monetary value of the contract?
Who caved?
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions
The only logical ones...
… that caved is the Crabtree camp. He may have gotten some potentially unattainable escalators to make the contract look bigger on paper, but in the end I think the 49ers got him for pretty much what they should have gotten him for.
Agreed
I doubt the 49ers broke with the slotting system, but allowed him more total $ over a longer term (essentially, the same money, plus escalators)… that way both sides can say they “won.” Crabtree got “more” money (same per year, but more years = more total) and the 9ers can say they maintained the slotting system by paying the same, over the longer term.
Just guessing of course… But after the 3-1 start and the Jets pulling out the back door, there’s only 1 really logical conclusion: Crabtree’s options were limited and he would rather take a little less and play than be a diva and be broke or humiliated (think of Cuba Gooding Jr.’s character in Jerry Macguire – sitting on a camel in a local car dealer commercial)
Pete
This is it (Not to invoke another pop superstar of yesteryear)
but today feels like the page has finally turned on all the disappointing seasons.
Not that I’m putting it all on Hammer’s shoulders, but we’re entering a new renaissance. If this season falls apart, there will be very real disappointment, but something tells me we’ll be cheering on our boys well into January.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
Hammer
We might have to have a semi-regular tribute to Hammer…maybe some occasional YouTube of old school Hammer!
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I already hate the "Hammer" nickname.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I don't
I’m referencing this MC Hammer twist as much as possible in the future… Its the funniest twist in a story since I found out Plexico shot himself…
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Hammer
I’m fine not calling him Hammer. But the whole MC Hammer thing is too funny and bizarre to never reference it again.
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I know right
so random
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
Okay Okay
I Want my $50 Bucks. I know someone owes me $50 bucks!!!! Where is my $50 bucks??? I think someone on here predicted a deal to be done early this morning. I am just wondering who it was? My oh my the possibilities. Who could it have been? Notice the sarcasm?
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 9:44 AM PDT reply actions
Are you kidding?
everyone knew a deal was getting done today after the events of yesterday. I told you he’d sign 2 months ago
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
Hey People
Notice the hint of sarcasm? C’mon we all knew he was going to sign today!!! It was a joke, gosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Welcome, Michael Crabtree ...
… and as 49RFAN said at the start of the comments, we have the perfect Coach to bring him into line if indeed that is what’s required. He belongs to Mike now, not his agent and a coterie of attention-seeking former players and one-hit early Nineties ex-rappers (I was always more of a Chuck D man myself back in those days).
Incidentally, I think the dude from the Panthers blog was a little harsh calling out his opposite number on Fooch’s own blog for labelling Sanders an “attention whore”. Whore can be defined as giving up one’s principles for personal gain, but that gain does not have to be monetary. It could be measured in column inches. Whore can also be defined as seeking that which is immoral, which could arguably include media attention.
Perhaps your mate over in Carolina needs a new dictionary, Fooch. I’m happy to trade him one for a first-round draft pick … oh, wait, we already have that …
"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...
Oh Yea.... I heard that ....
Does anyone remember the post back during OTA’s about Sing “ALMOST” making him cry… Goodness just you wait.. Oh My… just you wait.. Did you see how Sing got on Walker’s case for “giving up” on the side line pass against the Vikes.. Oh yea babe, it is coming like a freight train.. And that will be a good think because all the other players are on the same page,, Crab will need some time to catch up on the Singletary approach to football..
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 7, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't think he did...
Him and Deion we friends from way back. He was probably just helping out. Security/Planner for the meeting.
i think Hammer
tried to be a sports agent, particularly football, back in the early 90s. Does anyone else remember this? I think he paved the way (if you can even use that phrase given that both of these guys were ridiculous) for Master P to burst on the scene and negotiate that horrible contract for Ricky Williams.
apparently
he’s also good friends with Parker and he’s acting as a mentor to Crabs. Can’t remember where I read that (lots of different articles came out yesterday)
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Mentor
As in spiritual advisor maybe ? Hammer is an ordained minister now.
Well said Fooch
I’m completely with your analysis on both Crabtree and Deion. Let’s hope the kid grows up all the while in a Niner uniform. Perhaps being in the Bay Area he can create a professional friendship with Rice, Lott and/or Young. Much better examples of NFL and public professionalism.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Would the NFL hold any merit in Crabtree admitting to tampering?
It seems like we could just ask him… he could at least point us towards some evidence
It can get no sweeter than signing him and receiving compensation from the Jets for making it take this long…
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 7, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions
tampering
I’m going to put up some thoughts on that on the front page by lunch time (pacific time)
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Fooch
You may want to add to that post this opinion. The 49ers signing Crabtree really shouldn’t affect the tampering charges in the least, it didn’t in the Briggs case. And yes the 49ers should still receive some compensation. These two things are not part in partial to one another.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Braylon Edwards
is it just me or did the trade for braylon not help the Jets in the tamperring claim?
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 7, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I was just thinking the same thing, you beat me to the punch. This cannot help the Jets defense in the tampering case. Plus a willing Crabtree on our side can break the investigation wide open.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Crabtree - All you have to do to win us over is help make this guy just a little better during the second half of the season.
"We’ll see them again in the playoffs." - Mike Singletary, right after the Week 3 Minnesota game
what do you mean?
how can he get any better? He’s 10-4 as a starter and 7-0 at home. U CANT GET BETTERZ THEN THAT
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Well The Saga Ends
And now it’s up to Crabtree to do what he was drafted to do. I do think that Crabtree is much different then other recent rookie receivers. He came into college as a freshman and dominated in a top tier conference and won top receiver honors. I believe the 49ers will ease him into the game plan against Houston and Indianapolis and then allow him to be more of a part of the offense against the Titans. He will have about a half of year as a full on member of the 49ers
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions
Houston
Remember he’s from Texas….it’d be cool to play his first game in his home state.
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
A Full Game Against The Texans?
Really i am not sure about that, i think we are looking a little more at the Titans game. Either way i look for Crabtree to produce a great deal this season, he immediately becomes our most talented WR.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
misread the question
I was thinking just getting into a game….my bad.
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh Okay I Was Wondering
But he will get into action against the Texans for a couple plays.
Anyone know when the press conference is? Or if there is one?
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Can we really rule out an appearance this weekend?
I know its logical for us to get the two weeks (1 bye) and get him acclimated.
Is our passing attack really that complicated to where we can’t give him a few plays?
Our roster has been set up with the anticipation that this was coming. Also, last week Sing took Rossum off the 53 to get Brooks in for two plays. That might show us that our 53 margin is rather plastic. And hey who doesn’t want to sell more tickets and get more airtime. The Niners would make money by having Crabs in uniform.
He would at least serve as a distraction to the other team.
You know like the old get down on your knees and bark like a dog trick!
Once
Crab is able to play, who do you think is going to cut from the team.
And What
Chance has Spurlock got to do anything? The 49ers have yet to run a play with a 4 WR set so the only time he has run a scrimmage play was in the wildcat. Plus they have not utilized him in the return game.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Well you think
If they brought him in to be a receiver, he hasn’t caught a ball outside preseason. If they brought him in to return kicks (as you pointed out), he hasn’t done that either. If you want him for just special teams, i’m sure they could put a rookie in that spot who would do just a good, if not better.
And it was Spurlock's lane...
That Harvin ran through on the KO-TD. Everyone makes mistakes, but he got out of his lane and that led to the momentum and game changing TD. Combine that with zero catches, a poor pass to a wide open VD from the tazer no returns and he’s likely gone.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Spurlock Sucks
How did he make the roster? Haven’t seen him return kicks, or run the Taser (successfully)
Borrows Said
It wouldn’t be a WR but i am not too sure of that. They may either cut Spurlock or trade Jason Hill. But my best bet would be a demotion of Taylor or RJF to the practice squad. Remember the 49ers release Dabson Collins from the practice squad just MOnday.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 7, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
they cut a guy from the practice squad and....
i saw they drop spurlock or ziegler… (whoever is at the bottom of the tottem pole
Zeigler...
He’s on the practice squad already.
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Spurlock or Rossum
I’d guess the former now that Jones is healthy and most coaches prefer veteran returners.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Also would be a good mentor
Someone has to take over the duties and I don’t think that person is on our team yet. Maybe in the draft.
actually...
…i think they should have a special formation in the offense with VD and crabs between the sheets
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Oct 7, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
don't forget to...
tip your waitress. :-)
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Oct 7, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Has Sheets returned kicks?
I know he didn’t with us in preseason but am unsure about his time at Purdue. Coaches won’t put a rookie in that position unless he was great in college or injuries force him to.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
good point about jones
we already have a good receiver sitting on the bench, and now we will have 3. I think that makes Spurlock highly expendable.
FANTASY IMPACT!!!
i say he will produce for you by week 12 and really get you points if you make it to the final (we play detroit)
great
we finally brought the cancer in………its going to be all downhill once he suits up. way to go
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
cancer?
Really, you wanna use that term? He’s not the first player to hold out and they’re not all cancers as far as I know.
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
can you name any top wideout who's held out this long and ended up having a productive nfl career?
i know i can’t…………..elway and those others are different…….they were qb’s……….
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Can you name any that held out this long and didn't have productive careers?
What does holding out have to do with playing the WR position? Is there something about being a QB that allows them to handle long hold outs but WR’s can’t?
yes.........its basically called "historical precedence"
maybe crabdiva will break that precedent. but the odds are not in his favor.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Strange, didn't see a single name in that post
The point is there is no significant “historical precedence”. I’m not an expert, but I can’t think of a single receiver who sat out 4 games of his rookie season in a contract dispute. So whether Crabtree succeeds or fails there is no one in the past to compare him to.
If I’m forgetting anybody please feel free to correct me, otherwise I think the discussion would be more productive if you stopped making things up.
So what you're saying is...
That because Crabtree held out into week 4 of his rookie season his career is doomed? I’m going to expand on that and assume that it’s opinion that had he not held out the rest of his career would have panned out differently?
His hold out is only going to affect his ability to produce this season, which is always a question about rookie WR. His hold out should not have career crippling effects like you’re insinuating.
You want to talk historic precedence, fine, go ahead. Do your own research and the list number of rookie WR that have held out this long and have failed in NFL. I doubt you’ll have any historic precedence to work with.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 7, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hardly any ever hold out this long
So there’s not many data points for either side of the list.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
umm...
putting the cart before the horse here…i’ll ask you:
can you name any wideout who’s held out this long?
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Oct 7, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
man its the negetive cancer back in here again... who invited you to the party anyway?
dont you have something better to do?
HUH?
41 TD’s in two years at Texas Tech is hardly “cancer”. Imagine if he can do anything remotely close.
I don’t think cancer exists in Singletary’s vocabulary. This makes the teams a little more dangerous. Hill finally has a guy besides Gore that gives us that “homerun” factor on offense.
yes cancer
this dude obviously doesn’t want to play for the 9ers. his heart is in texas. i would be surprised if he went out there and half assed it on the field while he was with the 9ers. he will end up a dallas cowgirl, mark my words. you can hate on me now and give me props later when it actually happens
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Wow
If you think that Singletary will not have an affect on this guy, you are seriously wearing the blinders. Jerry Rice is still tied to the team and we will also have Issac Bruce’s brain to pick. I think its a litttle premature to sit there and say that he is a cancer and that he won’t eventually have an impact on this team. For all you know, he will end up a HOFer and play for 10+ years for the Niners
I'm speechless (which usually means I'm taken back my someone stupidity)
Holding out was a not so bright business move in itself. But to say that Crabtree would submarine his own career by dogging it in SF for the next 6 years so that he can sign an extremely discounted contract with the Cowboys is lame illogical moronic retarded.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 7, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Like I Said "Redrum"
STOP RAINING ON OUR PARADE MAN…. you’re like my exgrilfriend, always looking at things in a negative light… Child Please!!!
Crabtree-Braylon Edwards thread
I just put up something real quick about the tampering issues. I’m curious to see how it plays out in the coming weeks.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/10/7/1074960/michael-crabtree-and-the
Poor Brandon Jones
Only saw garbage time action last game, and if he doesnt do anything against the Falcons hes gonna be WR#4 and the 5th (or 6th-7th depending on where you place Delanie and Gore) receiving option on a team that doesnt pass much to begin with.
On that note, given how slowly they brought Jones back (I think he was cleared to practice before week 2), I dont see Crabtree at all this week, and with limited action in the two games after the bye.
Jones
He has a chance to prove himself and earn a #3 or even #2 spot. Especially if Morgan and Bruce continue to drop catchable passes. More importantly on 3rd down. Who knows, you could end up with Crabtree #1 and Jones #2 next year with Morgan #3. Anything can happen
Jones will be here next season while Bruce will retire
So he’ll get to be a #3 WR next season behind MC and Morgan. I also still consider him the #3 now as MC won’t receive a great deal of playing time for perhaps a month.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Call Guiness!!!
If i keep seeing that there are crabtree haters in here and wishing ill will on our team i will break the record for using the term “Child Please” more than Ochocinco….
AMEN
Amen to that 49er brothers.That was a nightmare that has ended.My nightmare was watching the Cowboys getting Crabtree next year.Yeah now were are ON with Crabtree.GREAT choice by signing Crabtree.You guys think that what Jim Brown commented on Crabtree had any affect on Crabtree signing?
maybe more
im sure more people got into his ear and knocked some since into him. but im sure that a HOF like Jim can get to a player. remember he was at one of the team practices.
Someone said something about Ronnie Lott
Now there is a passionate guy who knows how to connect with people.
Ronnie probably threatened to come back and play for the Niners
just to hit Crabtree if he didn’t sign.
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
Down the road, you guys will have
Nate Davis to Michael Crabtree. Quite the dynamic duo I hope.
by Sam Householder on Oct 7, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions
I hear Maiocco on KNBR
Say that Davis is his one friend on the team, as they met and got along at the Combine. That could be the real future in 2011 (perhaps 2010) and beyond.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
What if
We win the Super Bowl by year 2. What effect will that have on Stanley Burris?
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 7, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
MC Hammer's given name
Awesome comment LA49er!
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
new OC
Well, some talk is that QB coach Mike Johnson might be the guy to succeed him. When the 49ers brought in Nate Davis for an interview, Johnson was involve with that. So there could be some solid continuation
by David Fucillo on Oct 7, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Fooch
Although, for the record, I think it’s actually Stanley Burrell. If you haven’t yet, take a little stroll through MC’s Wikipedia.
You will absolutely not be disappointed.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
- Raye
I think as long as we have a patient QB’s coach who understands and knows how to teach him, it doesn’t matter who the OC is. The OC seems more involved with schemes and plays and not so much involved with play mechanics and that sort of stuff.
child please
i think all you diva crabtree riders are premature with your elation. how about lets see him play first……….you people are completely removed from reality
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Does not sound
like a DIVA one bit in this press conference. Sounds really humble and like a team player
he's on his best behavior right now to save face....obviously
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
He's
just in a nutshell saying that he is going to work his tail off, do anything the coaches tell him, block, catch etc. can’t wait to get in there with his teamates, etc. Sounds really excited and happy to have the contract thing behind him.
Singletary is talking now really positively about him.
Listening to Coach Sing
What a G. I really like Coach Sing as a person, man, what a motivating personality.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
did crabs leave already?
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
i'm a little late
but basically I was upset at Crabs for holding out so long, but now that he’s here i’m over it and ready to see what this he can do.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
wow that was a terrible comment
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Woot woot!
FINALLY!!! I think he’ll be a great player and am so glad this deal got done. I’m pretty sick and tired of hearing all these niner fans bashing crabtree for the hold out. I believe there were many things at play here including pressure from an agent, and advisers. Let us all remember Crabtree just turned 22. If I was a 21 year old just entering into a mulit million dollar contract I would be scared sh*tless and easily caught up in all the talk from “advisers”. Im just glad hes finally here. Lets go NINERS!!!!!!
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