PFT: Michael Crabtree contract reportedly worth $32 million, $17 million guaranteed
by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 12:58 PM PDT
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FOOCH'S UPDATE 1:30PM: Adam Schefter confirmed the #s on his Twitter page.
We don't have any confirmation other than Florio's league source, but for now, it's rumored that the Michael Crabtree is getting a base deal of 6 years, $32 million, with $17 million of that guaranteed. For those wondering, that $32 million figure and the guaranteed figure would include signing bonus money.
Florio makes a good point when he says, with no leaked numbers from Eugene Parker, maybe Parker is not so happy with the final deal. Assuming Team Crabtree is the side that caved in, that would certainly make sense.
The deal is 6 years, but Crabtree can void the final year's $4 million salary (thus becoming a free agent earlier) if he meets some incentives. PFT's source indicated these incentives might be:
The source tells us that, in his first four seasons (including 2009), Crabtree must either qualify for two Pro Bowls, or he must qualify for one Pro Bowl in one year and he must participate in 80 percent of the offensive snaps in a separate year in which the team makes the playoffs.
Given that this year is basically lost for him, that cuts it down to 3 seasons for him to achieve this. So score one for the 49ers I'd imagine. PFT pointed out that Crabtree did not receive an option bonus, but rather has something called a discretionary salary advance:
[U]nlike an option bonus [the discretionary salary advance is] subject to forfeiture if Crabtree decides in a year or two that he wants to hold out for a better deal. (We're also told that the 49ers have included language that would make certain escalators subject to forfeiture, too.)
PFT argues this ends up lose-lose, and in terms of the on-field product it probably is lose-lose. But in terms of saving face, the 49ers end up somewhat winners out of this. In the end, it's all over and done with and simply time to look to the future. Neither side can recover the lost time, but at least the 49ers have been playing well without Crabtree. We'll see how the season treats him going forward.
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Ouch
I hope Parker did this deal for free or at least took Crabtree out to dinner and a movie before he F’d him like that. That’s a lot of cash but he could’ve had a shorter deal with almost as much $$ guaranteed.
by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Oct 7, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations on signing Crabtree
Contract holdouts and personal drama are the worst parts of football. I hope Crabtree puts this behind him and starts ripping up the field for the 49ers.
by John Morgan on Oct 7, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks John
You guys had your hold-out, but Curry was pretty quick about getting it over with.
by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I ever even updated on Curry's holdout
it was beyond mild, almost perfunctory. I think Crab could be a very nice addition for Hill. Crabtree is a big play guy, a big play guy that doesn’t need deep patterns to take it deep.
by John Morgan on Oct 7, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks John
We obviously hope so too. :-)
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Picture
I just added a picture from the press conference. Singletary’s look just absolutely cracks me up!
by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That'd be a good one for "Caption This."
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
by kinglouie33 on Oct 7, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That picture is one of the best pictures I’ve ever seen in my life. And I’ve seen some pictures in my life.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s exactly the kind of picture that should be going up for caption contests. It’s comedy GOLD I tell you!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 7, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
captions
It can be our bye week caption this contest. People can start thinking over some captions.
by Fooch on Oct 7, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh you know I'm all over this
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 7, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caption
Hey, Rex Ryan…. Screw you!
Hey, remember that one time when we were arguing and I was wrong? Yeah, me either.
by SanFranSoldier on Oct 7, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mikes pic
Samurai Mike looks like Cuba Gooding Jrs father hahah!!!
I don’t expect a lot from Crabtree this season but next year is going to be reealy good !!
I thinkg Bruce is going to retire next year so that opens the door to #84JM #15MC #85VD they can be one of the best group of recivers in the league I just hope Jimmy the OC understands this
Go niners!!!
by heroe49 on Oct 7, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parker had no leverage
Parker was fortunate the Niners were generous enough to make it appear like a decent deal such that Parker/Crabtree can save face. I think you can see that the contract reflects the suppliant position that Parker was in. Had Crabtree not held out, he probably could have gotten the things like the option bonus and more realistic incentives.
by HaloFanInDC on Oct 7, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure it's a "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" kind of deal
Parker only has leverage in that he will be negotiating for clients in the future. I suspect that it was also a concession in that the Niners are allowed to fine Crabtree for time missed (4 weeks, or 4/17 of a season). If his base salary this year is $3M, that’s $750K lost… which brings it down to $16.25M, or about what the original offer was.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read a pretty good article on Yahoo stating how Crabapples cramp had 0 leverage after the tampering charges. Apparently no one wanted to answer any questions regarding the situation and Dion has even been taking a little heat with his job at the NFL Network. If Crabs had re-entered the draft next year and made more money, it would have just raised more questions and things may have gotten bad for his camp. So according to the unnamed league official, Parker was pressed to just go sign and get this done.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good work..
Gotta give it to Scot Mc. I think he handled it well. This was a tough case!
by Niner Power on Oct 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad...
Even after taxes. I wish I was in the position to make 1/10th of his guaranteed money!
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
by kinglouie33 on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1/10th?
Give me 1/100th of his guaranteed money! :-)
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah!!
Free money is free money. I wouldn’t play professional ball for that amount, especially not more than one year, but 100k would definitely be nice.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lose lose?
How is it a lose lose relationship. Niners got him for another year, got some good performance clauses in there, and assured that he won’t hold out for the next 2 years. I think it’s a win for Niners, lose for Parker and Crabtree.
by hudd07 on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a loss for the Niners
That he wasn’t signed earlier so he missed all of training camp and the first quarter of the season. That’s what Florio is referring to.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a numbers guy
I’m a football player…
Best line, IMO
by ZonaBacks10 on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that picture is SOOOO waiting for a caption...
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Start thinking of one... Keep em inside
You might see it again… very very soon….
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 7, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Crabtree held out for nothing. What an idiot.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 7, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No.. he would be an idiot if he had held out all year.
At this point. He is a SF 49er!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Oct 7, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Most Excited
Is Crabtree LOVES to run the screen pass or slant. I think that fits into our offense perfectly. Gives us a dynamic playmaker that can pick up 25 yards without having to get behind the DB.
by hudd07 on Oct 7, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good stuff
wow i cant wait for our offense to take off on somebody, maybe not this week, but just cant wait to explode on some team were supposed to lose to, Indy im looking at you guys lol. Oh and that pic is awsome!
NINERS 4 LIFE
by LADubbz45 on Oct 7, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Schefter confirms the numbers on his Twitter.
by Ninjames on Oct 7, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Picture Fooch
When I look at Sing in this picture, I here “play off, play off, are you kidding me play offs” but instead of play offs its “this guy, this guy are you talking about this guy”. Not funny but its what keeps coming to mind when I look at it.
by 49RFAN on Oct 7, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Sing is more like:
Holy [bleep] look who showed up!! I’m soo happy like I said I would be. Now wipe that smile off your face boy and run that hill!!
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I look at that picture I see
Hey that’s my boy,, my 1st 1st rounder…Damn he is finally here,, Hey Mkey, wnat to play some catch..
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 7, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In response to the question "who farted"
Sing says it was him.
by 49RFAN on Oct 7, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Lol
Save that for the Caption this thing later on…
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Yeah... it was me"
I had chili for lunch.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 7, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+100 lmfao
Playoffs??? Playoffs??? We're baaaaack!!!
by corvette49rdave on Oct 7, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We know what we (the fans) have to do
Don’t vote him into the pro-bowl!
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously though
I want him to stick around for as long as possible.
The 49ers FO gave us the opportunity to help keep Crabtree for an extra year.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leave him be.
I was starting to get mad and frustrated too, but its over now. Lets give him our support and maybe he will become what he thinks he is.
by 49RFAN on Oct 7, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As Sing said
All that is behind us, and the team is going forward.. Whoever aint… is gettin left behind.
Dang this man has quite a way with words…
by ZonaBacks10 on Oct 7, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What many people don't get is that He meant it and will not back down from it..
He says what he means and means what he says. That is why the players respect him,, he is a no BS guy,,
Gooooo Niiiiinnnnneeeerrrrsss
by WC-Ninerhead on Oct 7, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I'd like to know...
Of all the people here, who already owns a crabtree jersey? Who is going to buy one soon, like within the next month? Who will wait until next year when or if he starts to really produce?
by agchee on Oct 7, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't recommend buying his jersey
At least not until he gets a contract extension from the 49ers
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My next one is going to be Patrick Willis
My last one was Smith. I got it before he ever play a down and got screwed.
by 49RFAN on Oct 7, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saints game
I live in Mississippi and went to the Saints game wearing Smiths jersey and almost got jumped.
by 49RFAN on Oct 7, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it was Smith or because they still have anti-Niner feelings
After years of being beat down?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 7, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should try to get the numbers changed to Justin Smiths #.
Then you will feel good about your jersey.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was about to say that
That’s why I never buy replica jerseys (only authentic and “premier”)
I can always unstitch the numbers/name and just buy a different combo on ebay
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Within the next month
I’m going to get a Willis…
Within the next year… CRABTREE!
Although a VD one is lookin mighty good right now too.
by ZonaBacks10 on Oct 7, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get VD
They are on clearance in most sports stores.
Everyone considers him a bust.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is pretty easy to get VD these days
rimshot
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
by kinglouie33 on Oct 7, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here you go
http://www.instantrimshot.com/
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 7, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I’m nearly computer illiterate.
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
by kinglouie33 on Oct 7, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice I'll look for that. I will sport VD no problem.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be proud of having VD
Better than having Crabs (as of now…..)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So....
Why did he hold out?
His contract is no better than Raji’s (assuming he doesn’t meet the almost unreachable incentives).
He could have taken the 5 year deal in July…..
He’s still a fool.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's
A little bit more in gauranteed money. Long-term, if he meets all the goals to receive all of the incentive monies, It’s 2 million more per year. $32 Mil sounds better than $20 Mil I guess. If he reaches the goals, he can opt out of the last year. So if that happens, the last year of the contract is for $4 Mil which means he will have made $28 Mil ($8 Mil more than originally offered if you’re speaking in terms of a 5 year deal). The Niners are paying him more than what was stated if Crabtree can perform accordingly and do everything the contract is asking him to do.
by Drew K on Oct 7, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
The original deal had a base salary of $20 (16 guaranteed) million that could be worth up to $28 million if he reached some incentives.
But it was for 5 years.
Now he has a 6 year deal that will pay him only $1 million guaranteed more.
He can void the final year of the contract (worth $4 Mil) but he has to make it to the pro-bowl twice or make it to the pro bowl once and play 80% of the team’s offensive snaps and make it to the playoffs the next year.
So, since he’s not going to the pro-bowl this season he’s got 3 years to do it.
It’s not going to happen dude.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
notice the words “qualify” for 2 probowls withing the 4 years. I agree that there’s no chance this year for that. But qualify means that he could be voted as an alterernate and that would “qualify” him. And to “qualify” for one year and be in for 80% of one of those years is even less of a challenge assuming he earns a #1 receiver spot and stays healthy
by Drew K on Oct 7, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep agreed
The “80% of the offensive snaps” should be easy in 2010, 2011, or 2012. All he needs is the Niners to make the playoffs one of those years when he stays healthy and then make the probowl once too, doesn’t sound so out of reach to me.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well the probowl might be out of reach if we don't get a QB to throw to him.
I am no Shaun Hill hater, please don’t take it that way, but I still just don’t see big numbers from any receiver as long as he is the QB.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's going to be the QB 3 years from now
But we’ll see.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that as well.
But I really can’t picture what kind of action this management will take with that position these days. I almost feel like there is this fear of drafting a high QB over there now a days. I thought they should have addressed it this year or last year. They did draft Davis, but I don’t really see him being our future guy, just hopefully a solid backup for some good years. I think there could be some good options with one of our first picks next year, but I am still iffy on this QB class.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So It's Pretty Much
the same contract that the 49ers originally offered with another year added on right?
Crabtree has dominated at every single level in which he played. He came into college and almost had 2,000 yards receiving in his freshman season. I see no reason why he cannot be the 2nd best 49ers receiver ever behind well guess who?
One Prediction. Hey fooch if you do that 49ers all-time team in another 10 years i will bet that Crabtree will replace John Taylor on that list.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he redshirt his first year at Tech
I may be mistaken but I think he had a red shirt year, which would make it a little misleading to say he stepped into the college game and dominated as a freshman.
by DiegoAsFan on Oct 7, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking that as well.
Because I don’t remember the NFL changing the rule officially that true sophomores can enter the draft. Or I am wrong about that?
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay finally!
Im thinking about getting his jersey too
by thecity23 on Oct 7, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just some of his notable college games
10 catches-128 yards against Texas 11/1/08
14 catches-237 yards-3td against Oklahoma State 9/22/07 (against Perrish Cox)
9 catches-195 yards-2td against Texas 11/10/07
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 7, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only problem is....
Big 12 defenses suck for the most part, and it was a spread offense in which their pass to run ratio is like 80:20 lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Oct 7, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Get It
But no matter the circumstances those are stunning number man. And those two games were going up against the best defense in the Big 12 those two seasons. I am not saying Crabtree is going to blow that up in the NFL but it’s hard to argue against his obvious talents.
Playoffs? Playoffs? Playoffs? Your Talking about Playoffs? Yes Sir I am!!!!!!!!!!!
by nocal81 on Oct 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best Defense in the Big 12
What does that look like?
by bignerd on Oct 7, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big 12
Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Nebraska are known for defense.
As far as defenses go in college, this is how I see the top 5
Atlantic Coast #1
Big 12 #2
Big 10 #3
Southeastern #4
Pac 10 #5
by Drew K on Oct 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa Whoa Whoa
Are you seriously saying that teams from the ACC conference play the best defense in the country?
A compelling argument can be made that the MWC is a better conference than the ACC, and you’re putting them at the top defensively?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
MWC better than ACC?
How many defensive players go on to the NFL from the MWC? C’mon… Just about every team from the ACC heavily stacks the draft each year with defensive players. I hate the ACC but at least I am being real about it
by Drew K on Oct 7, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miami and Va Tech are looking better at the top
But Virginia is making a run at Washington’s title as “Worst Division 1 football team ever” and the middle of the conference is as mediocre as ever.
Certainly there’s a bit of hyperbole in my MWC statement (absent WVU… I honestly do think it could apply to the Big East), but my point remains. Look at how the best teams of the ACC have stacked up against their SEC, Big 12, and even Big 10 counterparts. The defensive numbers of players in the ACC certainly benefit from playing against the offensive players of the same conference. Prior to raiding the Big Least, it was a conference dominated by FSU for 15 years. Now its a conference without an identity.
Conversely, the defenses in the SEC and the Big 12 stack up favorably against the offensive juggernauts in those same conferences.
Back on topic about Crabs though… I find it somewhat interesting that Graham Harrell’s numbers are written off as the product of “The System” but WR’s in the same offense are never labeled the same way. Not to say that I don’t believe Crabtree to be overrated or to say that I think Harrell would be an All-Pro, just find the dichotomy to be interesting.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 7, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Errrr... last paragraph came out wrong
To put it in plain fourth grader English… I believe Crabtree is good and Harrell probably isn’t.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew what you meant
I was basically rubutting the fact that the Big 12 does not “suck” defensively. I just have been noticing a ton more players being drafted out of the ACC in the last 5 years. Particularly the two teams you mentioned. But it seems that even North Carolina, Maryland, N.C. State and Boston College have been producing alot more NFL players within that time span also.
I may consider switching the SEC with Big 10 but I was thinking of the conferences as a whole when I made the statement
by Drew K on Oct 7, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SEC is definitely the best defensive conference in college football. They have one of the highest levels of competition in the NCAA as far as number of solid teams. I also see a lot more overrated players coming out of the ACC (this guy named Blamer).
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blamer?
Who did he blame?
I do agree however that the SEC is the best defensive conference in the nation.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been saying that same thing about your last paragraph.
I just can’t figure that out. I don’t get how the best QB statistically for two years got no looks by the NFL. I get it, he spreads the defense out and has a number of options every play. But here is what is confusing to me. He made that work, he clearly saw the field and spread the ball around. I have not officially scouted the guy, I am just speaking based off numbers, but how many NFL QBs have you seen that don’t see the whole field? It’s one look and, oh ****, sack or int.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, even in that spread Texas Tech plays the WR’s need to know how to run some routes and catch the ball. Maybe they can’t read defenses but that can be taught.
by Hoopers Judge on Oct 7, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oklahoma State and Missouri are big offensive teams
Definitely not known for defense.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose subconsciously I wanted the 49ers to trade him away.
Just another receiver to embarrass our secondary, I guess.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 7, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
don't feel bad fearless frog
we niner fans have been waiting quite a while for our time to come.
by Doni S on Oct 7, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never seen a Seagal fan give the 49ers so much credit.
And I lived up near Seattle for a couple years.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just another receiver to embarrass our secondary, I guess.
WTF?
Did you really write this?
You’ve never been one to give credit to our WRs.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crab-or better yet Parker is a complete MORON
He hurt this kid badly.
He could’ve had him in camp, and maybe had Crab producing at some point this year which is probably unlikely.
Did he get ahead more financially? Maybe slightly, but its negligible in the big scheme of things. I hope this moron learned his lesson. What a jerk off.
by Italia1970 on Oct 7, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Endorsements
Just thinking how it hurt him with future endoresements.
by 49RFAN on Oct 7, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Visa already stepped up.
He looks like my debit card now, lol.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are on all the practice jerseys
Not just Crabtree’s
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the point...
… of putting a corporate sponsor logo on a practice jersey that no one really sees?
by sfgfan on Oct 8, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this mean that we'll start seeing Crabtree-Subway commercials now?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there was a caption game on this...
Singletary: “This is the idiot who held out?”
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Oct 7, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy thinks he's worth what?
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 7, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Oct 7, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will be
Save your stuff
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope he can bring the success that he had in college he is the only WR to win the Biletnikoff Award on his Freshman season this are the stat for his first three games
106 yards 12 receptions for three touchdowns
188 yards 15 receptions, and two touchdowns
244 yards 11 receptions for three touchdowns
I know I know, this is not college its the NFL but if he can put half of those numbers in the first three nfl games Ill be pleased
by heroe49 on Oct 7, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pleased
is putting it mildly. 269 yards and 4 TD in his first 3 games – I’d probably be site decorum off to that…
by musketeer54 on Oct 7, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Guy
Hey guys, might as well get the intro’s out of the way but i’m a first time poster on this blog. Been a Niners fan since their last Super Bowl win (only 3 then). Just glad Crabtree signed but can we really let him off the hook easily?
by Hoopers Judge on Oct 7, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope, I will hate on him every time he drops a pass or f's up a downfield block.
I will jump on his bandwagon when he comes through though. For now, we are just happy this whole debacle is over with.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can now break out my Crabtree Jersey! Yes!
i was begining to wonder if i was ever going to be able to wear my Crabtree Jersey but now i can wear it outside and say woohoo he is a 49er! I can espically start wearing it more when eventually starts catching TD passes which i think will come very soon!
by 49ersAllTheWay on Oct 7, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So at what point will he become fantasy relevent?
I’m thinking 5 weeks from now? Just pulling a number out of a hat, but at least he’ll be on the field soon and able to contribute more than the Cards first round pick at this point.
What’s the over/under on his first TD?
Section 102, Row 18
by CardsFan08 on Oct 7, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ain't gonna be against Atlanta
that’s 4 sure. Probably not against Houston either, regardless of the bye week. I might be going out on a limb, but my guess is the Titans.
by Doni S on Oct 7, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think only VD and Gore will be fantasy relevant this year.
Offensively anyway, their D single handily won it for me last week.
by jonesin25 on Oct 7, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the 9ers D too...
but all my other players underperformed so convincingly that I still lost, even though the other guy had forgotten to play a quarterback.
by musketeer54 on Oct 7, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really see him being relevant this year fantasy-wise
At least not more than a spot starter. We just don’t have the passing game to do it.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 7, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts exactly
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
by wjackalope on Oct 7, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Backup for a backup
He would be someone to step up when you are out of WR’s b/c of injury/bye week/whatever. He won’t be consistant enough to start on a week-to-week basis. That being said, he still has the potential to break open a play, so he could be useful in later season starts against the Rams, Lions, Seahawks, etc (right around FF playoff time).
Full Disclosure: I have Crabs in 4 out of my 6 fantasy leagues. He was my last round draft pick in each one, and I have yet to drop him.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 7, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to answer your question specifically
After the Titans game you can think about starting him, methinks
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 7, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last pick?
What about Glenn Coffee?
I picked him up in almost all of my leagues with the final pick.
He’s well worth it now. (subbed for DeAngelo Williams quite nicely)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Did the same in all of mine
Coffee has been my sleeper pick of the year. I picked up Crabtree in the next to last round in two leagues and got worried last week that he was going to sit so I dropped him.
Thanks for the input from all!
Section 102, Row 18
by CardsFan08 on Oct 9, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commissioner: Integrity wins over Tampering in NFL?????
Co-incidence?? Yes, it is a Co-incidence that NFL public fan opinion wouldn’t want to accuse anybody (NY Jets) of tampering (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), but the timing of Jets trading for a much needed wide-out is certainly amusing nonetheless!
Hey Mr. Commissioner, It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to connect the dots and timing.
After all, why would NY Jets even think of tampering with Carptree? They didn’t need another potential great receiver, did they? Jets had no motive! Right! Humm….
O, or maybe, on second thought, they did? That’s why, the B. Edwards deal did place just after the Craptree signing! By then, after the "back door" deal was closed on Agent Parker and his buddy NY Jets General manager Tannenbaun. Parker was not able to pull off another deal like those two when they stole Martin from NE to Jets and Parker broke the Phx Cardinals bank with Fitzgerald’s obscene salary.
“Remember that statement from agent Parker last week that he had a firm offer for $40mil from another team (or two)? Well, that was a confession to tampering – at least one other team made a firm contract offer to Parker during a period when ONLY the 49ers had a right to be negotiating. As a result, the 49ers efforts to make a most fair and reasonable offer from the beginning, the 49ers have for all intends and purposes, have basically paid for a full season, yet lost the services of Mr. Craptree for most if not all of this year! Who pays the price for this?
Mr. Goodell, if you are a strong leader with integrity, you must now send a message and punish NY Jets and suspend Parker from doing business with NFL for at least year! By doing so, you make a statement that property rights for all in NFL draft is the Rule of Law and will be protected and Tampering in any form will not be tolerated. And maybe Mr. Crabtree, you can gain some respectability as new 49ers with your new fans by firing Parker that did not serve your interest well.
by ajp49er on Oct 7, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here are the details of the contract
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Crabtree-Inside-the-details.html
Looks pretty good all the way around. I think we both came out of it with what we wanted.
by smileyman on Oct 7, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey
does this mean I can eat at Subway again?
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Oct 7, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I never stopped eating subway
I don’t see how it’s a problem…..
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 7, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you dont see how it was a problem that you were funding Crabs holdout?
well you sir are obviously not a “true” 49er fan
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Oct 7, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree's going to poison the clubhouse
Wait for it, guys. My prediction: this guy is going to kill the clubhouse with his ego. Reason: I remember seeing this guy on ESPN, living in this big ass house. He’s rich, he comes from a rich family as far as I can tell, and what does he do? He holds out for more money. It’s not even about the money for him, he doesn’t need it, no starving families to feed. It’s about the ego. He NEEDS to be special, and he’ll hold his breath until you acknowledge that he’s special. Wait for it. He’s going to make T.O. and Keyshawn Johnson look humble by comparison. I’m a huge fan of Singletary, and I feel for such a classy guy to have to deal with this douche in the years to come. Hopefully Mike can slap him around some, he needs it big time.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Oct 8, 2009 2:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why even sign him
I can’t wait to see how this thing is going to play out. First off i don’t think they should have even signed him, if he didn’t like what they were offering before the season, they should have let him sit out till next year. Singletary doesn’t need him, he’s got the team playing well and believing in each other, there was no need to throw a wrench into this thing. The offense is playing pretty good considering Frank Gore is out and Hill is progressing nice. He’s found his two main targets in Vernon Davis and Josh Morgan.
Say Crabtree does have a big year, I got a feeling he’s just going to start crying for more money and hold out again. If he has a bad year, they just wasted 17 million on a signing bonus for a cry baby. It’s a lose lose situation to me.
by Big Frank on Oct 10, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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