San Francisco 49ers and Vernon Davis: A red zone match made in heaven?
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We'll be using these weekly sponsored posts to take a look at some aspect of the 49ers red zone performance. The 49ers offense doesn't exactly get into the red zone all that often, but when they do get down there, they perform surprisingly well. Later today Florida Danny will be doing his weekly look at the 49ers DVOA rankings/performance through week 4. He provides the kind of detail I can only dream of, but I still occasionally enjoy looking at some small portion of DVOA rankings. I may not completely get the math behind it, but I know good rankings when I see them.
The 49ers red zone offense is one such ranking. Through four weeks, Football Outsiders ranks the 49ers 5th in total red zone offense. The team ranks 16th in red zone rushing, but more importantly, they rank 1st in red zone passing. No matter what the DVOA math tells you, that #1 ranking is certainly something to be pleased about.
DVOA takes into account a lot of variables in red zone success, but for now, let's go straight to what people are really concerned about: scoring touchdowns. Who has been scoring touchdowns in the red zone for the 49ers? One of the most controversial 49ers since TO: Vernon Davis. Davis has shown knack for getting past defenders and hauling down some tough passes in traffic. However, he's done it with the most precision down in the red zone.
One could even argue Davis might have a signature touchdown catch style. He'lll be lined up at the normal tight end position. On the hike he takes off for the end zone in what I guess could be called a fly or go pattern. He's going pretty much straight forward, so if you think it should be qualified differently, please let me know in the comments. The important thing in all of this is the way he automatically becomes a mismatch for whomever is covering him. Against the Rams, as he came off the line, James Laurinaitis had to pick him up in coverage. Simply put, there are very few linebackers who would be able to cover Davis in the red zone. The only example might be Julian Peterson of the Lions. When he was a 49er he shut down Tony Gonzalez in an epic matchup, although that was before his achilles injury.
In general though, linebackers don't have the speed to stay with him, even on those short routes. In the case of the Rams game, this gave him time to get a couple steps behind Laurinaitis. Shaun Hill lofted the ball into his outstretched hands and took us to the second advantage Davis has, particularly in the red zone. If he's being defended by a safety, Davis has the physicality to handle that matchup. In the Rams game, as he caught the ball safety Anthony Smith came in to deliver the big blow to potentially jar the ball loose. In this particular instance he was a second late and didn't get a big hit in. However, if you've looked at other Davis touchdowns, he's been able to hold onto the ball while getting cracked by a linebacker and safety. Result? Touchdown!
If the 49ers can improve their red zone appearances even just a little bit, Vernon Davis provides them with the ultimate Red Zone weapon. At some point teams will have to add a defender to him and that only opens more holes elsewhere on the field. And that is most definitely a good thing.
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I say they perform “surprisingly well” at the top just because of the general offensive issues that exist
Did
you ever think that there would be a time that on 3rd down or a critical situation you were gonna tell yourself ‘they gotta get Vernon the ball’? Thinks are changing around here.
The guy two seats to the right of me during the game said two things
THROW THE BALL TO VERNON!!! or some variation and
PICK OFF THAT DAMN BALL WILLIS!!!!!
as loudly as possible, over and over again. I don’t think he said anything else.
You sit next to Mike Singletary?
Good seats!
by bobnothing on Oct 8, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Davis
His problem is that he needs to act like EVERY catch is a TD catch. I feel like he sells out for the TD catches yet is somewhat lazy on other catches that he drops. Hey VD, EVERY catch is just as important!!!
yeah, but still
I’ve killed the guy for not laying out on overthrown passes, but there’s a difference between passes that are thrown high and the catching of which will involve taking a hit on the one hand, and passes that are outside your catching radius on the other. I think what I’m realizing is that while VD will never have Tony Gonzales’ catching radius, he still has strong hands on passes thrown high.
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
I believe last year they were working on Vernon and his hands.. basically he has soft hands and it is easier to catch the ball now.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Overhead
VD can’t catch passes over the shoulder. If you look at his touchdowns you’ll see he jumps and faces the pass.
Very true
As for his drops this year: I can only recall two; one vs the Rams when the pass was a bit late and off target. And one vs Seattle when the ball got deflected at the line and arrived slower so his mometnum was going the other way.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
he's been money
from the moment we drafted him this is what I thought he could do – provide a mismatch in the middle of the field and do major damage in the red zone… it has never happened with any consistency until this year. I guess we can thank Sing and Jimmy Raye for that.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Give the guy a break
he isn’t what I would call a model citizen but he still has come through for the team and even if he hasn’t been consistent he seem intent on being serious about football for a change.
he’s hard to cover, if he becomes more consistent then he will open up screen passes and other receivers
by next year he’ll be pro bowl material
Explain more about this sponsoring of posts.
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by Rishi on Oct 8, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Fooch, you corporate schill, you!
All I want to know is whether I get a cut for my witty and insightful posts here. Anyone? Anyone?
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
sponsorship
Comcast has cut a sponsorship deal with us. They ask us to promote the Red Zone channel. So each week we’ll have a post like this with the sponsorship mentioned at the top like you see here. Just so there’s no confusion, beyond that italicized mention at the top of the Red Zone channel, the content of the post is entirely up to me. Make sense?
by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Do they give you Red Zone for free? It is worth it?
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Comcast
No free Red Zone channel. I actually already get the channel for free. I spoke with someone at Comcast and they gave me the sports package at the normal price ($4.99), but then reduced my normal bill for the next 6 months to by $6.99, so I’m netting $2!
As for this deal, we get a little bit of compensation for it. I’ll be using that to get some prizes for the prediction contest. Last year’s prizes were all donated items.
by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The Red Zone channel
I don’t know how much it is since I’ve just been able to find streams of it online, but if you’re a fantasy player, it is absolutely fantastic.
RZ Channel is awesome
I heard it described as football porn. If the Niners aren’t playing I keep it on that channel and find it difficult to leave the couch.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
"football porn"
so basically, you get people (defenders) getting undressed, more body contact than you can shake a stick at, nasty moves, strange formations, something called the spread, lots of beef in certain situations, and, last but not least, people scoring all over the place.
Yeah, football porn sounds about right.
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 8, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ahaha.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 8, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
VD is going to be our version of antionio gates
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 8, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions
seam route
I think is the designation you were looking for, Fooch. It usually starts out at a little less than 100% speed, so as to make it look like a break to the inside or outside would follow. This also has the advantage of not immediately alerting the safeties that their help will be needed.
Once the safeties look to the outside receivers and the linebacker bites, Davis just accelerates right by him and in between the safeties, which of course is helped by the fact that he’s such a freak.
Touchdown.
that sounds right
Thanks. I get those various routes confused, but that sounds about right to me. Given Davis’s consistent use of it I’m surprised it’s not seen more in scouting reports.
by David Fucillo on Oct 8, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Seam Route Go Route, Fly Route
same difference. he needs a post corner so that it doesnt become predictable to the safety.
True.
Although that route would probably be too slow-developing to be a weapon in the red zone.
Damn, why don’t they show the whole field more often? The only time you can really see all the patterns develop is about a week later, when Jaworksi (or whoever does that part now) breaks down last week’s key plays in the pregame show.
I also want replay angles from coaches’ cam (up behind the goal posts). From normal TV angles, you might see if a play worked or not, but you hardly ever really see why.
by musketeer54 on Oct 8, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Phil Simms was great at that pass
And both Bavaro and Cross were excellent at catching that route for him. The added benefit is that even if safeties play for it, that leaves their DBs in man coverage with both WRs and keeps them back off the line which helps the run game. The Walsh offense was always at its best when the TE received some early receptions and it was the best way for Montana/Young to attack the double zone that the Giants always ran to take away the WRs.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
The guy is a great talent.
I spent as much time shaking my head in disgust as any one else about Vernon’s play . A young player who gets drafted to a barely functional team is caught up in the general malaise surrounding him and performs accordingly. With the changes in coaching and attitude he will thrive and show us more and more what he’s got.
What I am looking forward to is Davis at TE, Jones going long and Crabtree down the middle.
This will always open one of these three up. Add Morgan to the list and the defence would have to flip a coin….
I am so excited about the 49ers present and future!
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Totally agree...
The question now is…will Jimmy Raye shift focus to passing more with Crabtree in the mix. Teams won’t be so inclined to stack 8 or 9 in the box once ‘everyone’ is healthy. I smell me a Division Crown for us this year guys. Who’s with me?
Crabtree is a rookie
He missed training camp and a quarter of the season. It will be 3 weeks till he’s ready to run a few routes, and 8 weeks till he’s actually ready to contribute on a regular basis. Temper your expectations.
Furthermore, receivers are very rarely ready to come in and be a threat their rookie year, even with a full camp.
Also, Shaun Hill needs better protection to allow Raye to “focus on passing more.”
With or without Crabtree, it’ll be a major upset if we lose the division. We’ve got a 1.5 game lead on the Cards and a 3-0 division record, including 2 road wins. It’s still early, but that’s a big hole for the Cards to climb out of.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine...
But the other road game will be against the Rams, so it doesn’t really count.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 8, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Dilfer had a good analysis on this yesterday
I think it was on Sando’s blog. Basically, bring him along slowly using the quarters of the season. A few plays here in the second quarter. More playing time in the third quarter then ready to be a big part of the team during the final quarter and playoffs when his play making ability will mean the most.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
it's nice...
that the niners have a go-to TE pass play in the red zone again, kind of like the brent jones play they used to run to steve young’s left on the goalline. personally, i think they should take advantage of VD (like we all should!) on 3rd & short. use that same play basically because it’s going to be defended the same on 3rd and short as it is in the red zone. to get the 1st down, all he has to do is jump, catch it, and hold on to it, which he seems to be doing just fine in the red zone.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Oct 8, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions
So basically Vernon Davis is just as good
as every 49ers fan who has played Madden hoped he would be since his rookie year.
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They to red zone success IMO
Is the ability to run it in. The ability to consistently do that opens up everything when the field is that short, especially since many plays are short yardage. A mobile QB would be another helpful factor and is partly why the Walsh offense was so successful with Montana, Young and Garcia in the RZ. Lastly is a TE who is legit TD threat. Vernon has the body and strength of a rebounder so he can wall of defenders and take a hit over the middle. His success should also begin to open up TD opportunites to the receivers and in the run game by drawing more safety help and getting the LBs to inch backward instead of toward the LOS.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
and maybe a safety like Adrian Wilson
but not very many other people though
Adrian Wilson isn't very good in coverage.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 8, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
but he has the athletic ability in limited space (the red zone) to possibly hang with vernon. The less he has to swivel those hips the better for him
I'm also surprised...
…that Hill has been so effective in the red zone. My major concern was that he didn’t have the velocity to score in the red zone where windows of opportunity are so short. What the BLEEP do I know?
Shaun Hill
Is the man!!! honestly i didnt think he would come thru like he has done. Maybe its because i always had hopes for alex smith since we drafted him. Or maybe it was because shaun hill was a career back up and didnt really have those superstar qualities. But i think i owe him an apology because so far he has steped it up and im happy that he is in as a starter, altough i still have a glimpse of hope for alex since well we did take him no.1 overall… O and by the way, vernon is also the man and now that the dark cloud from past years is finally clearing i think people are gonna find out what this guy is all about…Go Niners

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