The UFL Kicks Off In Two Hours
To start, if you haven't heard of the UFL, it stands for the United Football League. It's a brand new league and kicks off for its first game today with a matchup between the California Redwoods and the Las Vegas Locomotives. I'll get to specifics about the teams in a short while but first I'll talk a bit more about the league. It is unclear at this point what their actual vision is but it has been stated that they are not in competition with the NFL. They stand, at this point, to be some kind of developmental league, most of the players having at one time or another played in the NFL. The other two teams (four total, thus far) are the Florida Tuskers and the New York Sentinels. Speculation right now has the UFL hoping to be active and running strong around the time the NFL may or may not be locked out for a season come the end of the CBA, with the UFL likely attempting to get some of the players to play for their league. Either way, I'm more than a little interested in this young league and I'll be watching the kickoff in just a couple short hours.
The UFL will be running NFL style rules with a few notable exceptions. These rule changes are as follows...
- No Tuck Rule - The Tuck rule is one of the most controversial rules in the NFL. In the NFL, if a passer brings his arm forward in a passing motion and then loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body, it's considered a forward pass (and thus an incomplete pass if the ball hits the ground). In the UFL, it would be called a fumble.
- Touchdown celebrations - Celebrations, individual or group, will only take place in the endzones and on the bench area.
- Fumbling out of the endzones - If the ball is fumbled out of the endzone, it will be placed back at the spot of the fumble, pending which team last had possession.
- Intentional grounding - A quarterback is allowed to intentionally ground the ball anywhere behind the line of scrimmage if he is under pressure.
- Instant replay - All reviews will be viewed upstairs by the replay official and he will only have 90 seconds for review.
- Overtime - Both teams will be guaranteed at least one possession. When a team scores, the other team will get a last chance to score on the next drive. Similar to the College football rule.
Notable of course, is the intentional grounding and the absence of the abomination of the NFL rulebook--the tuck rule. I'm interested to see how the intentional grounding will play out. Either way, what do I expect from this league?
Just about nothing. I mean, I'm more curious than anything--I'm not expecting the most intense of competition for my viewing time from this young league but I am very curious. Curious enough to lurk around this fanpost after I post it to see if anyone else is watching. I mean, it couldn't hurt to watch, right? Then again, maybe it can, considering the fact that players such as Tim Rattay and JP Losman are going to be suiting up for tonight's matchup. Which brings me, of course... to well... the matchup.
The Head Coaches- The Redwoods are coached by Dennis Green, formerly of the Minnesota Vikings and Arizona Cardinals and leads the spread 3-1 against Locomotives head coach Jim Fassel, formerly of the New York Giants. I believe Green has the edge on this matchup.
The California Redwoods versus the Las Vegas Locomotives. How do you break down a game full of players you know nothing about? It's hard to really gauge but at this point it seems like the "Locos" have the more talented roster. They are quarterbacked by JP Losman and are starting a running back I'm actually rather familiar with: DeDe Dorsey. As far as other players of note there aren't many, we've got some younger brothers of current NFL players and an entire defense of unknowns.
As for the California Redwoods (the team I happen to be rooting for, guess why) there's not much there. Ex-49ers receiver Mark Bradford plays for the team--I can't claim that I saw a lot in the kid but I do know he was fast, and decent. A practice squadder if there ever was one. On defense they have LB Dontarrious Thomas, someone I expect to be a game changer tonight. They have BJ Sams at WR--a player who holds the distinction of being the lowest rated player on Madden NFL 10--nice. Their biggest question mark is at the QB position, one of the few things the Loco's seem to have down.
I've also just realized how bizarre this league is when I list J.P. Losman as a reason a professional football team may have an advantage over the other. Either way, it should be an interesting matchup and will air in about two hours on Versus or online. If you're going to catch the game maybe hang around this post and discuss it with me as I'm hungry for football talk as of right now. Now for some further reading...
Here's the websites for the Redwoods, the Locomotives, and the UFL in general.
Check this link for further reading on the UFL.
The game will be on Versus at 6:00 PM Pacific but can also be viewed online here.
So here's hoping for a good game, I'd like to see this little league succeed--nothing wrong with more football. My prediction: Locomotives Win 24-16.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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the redwoods taking a page from the Seahawks' playbook
and wearing neon snot green:

A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Those are actually worse than any of the NFL Europe uniforms =\
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
Go Reds!
Wait… uh… hmmm….
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 8, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That uni...
… makes the Seahawks nasty greens actually look pretty good.
i dont get why this is starting now.
yeah ill watch it i guess, for the novelty and only till the office comes on, but why dont they play this crap ball during the spring or early summer. that time a year you would have a captive audience and if an nfl team was looking for talent that talent would be available during a reasonable time.
this is a good question
competing with the NFL – during the heart of the NFL season? really?
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
I read somewhere that they weren't competing at all.
But rather, trying out for the right to be sort of a developmental “minor league” to the NFL.
I assume that the season schedule coincides with the possibility of players becoming part of the UFL immediately after missing their shot at an NFL roster – and even staying in game shape and competing during the NFL season, allowing the possibility of being signed right away (or in the event of actual league partnership, getting “called up”).
Think of it as a local NFL Europe, rather than a USFL.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
um
Go Redwoods! Where’s the new SBNation blog? What would it be called? Tree Huggers?
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
sorry james...
does this count as a gameday thread? cause this game is fcuking terrible. there are like 11 people in the stands.
I would say not a gameday thread
so please watch the language
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
OTOH
you’re right. Nobody in the stands
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
19 minutes into the game and you say it's terrible
Especially because it was actually about two minutes into the game, and if you watched online, you posted just as kickoff happened. You can’t judge a game based on how many people are there.
thread
Yea, this doesn’t count as a game day thread. Game day threads are 49ers game threads. Also draft day has an exception.
by David Fucillo on Oct 9, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey I know that guy....
on Las Vegas, it’s former 49er season tackle leader mlb brandon moore
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
I can't tell the difference between the two teams...
Why does that home team have silver jerseys?
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 8, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions
because the people that designed this league
are idiots
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
JP Losman is awesome
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
also
ugliest uni’s ever. Teal pants?
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Teal is an awesome color.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 8, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
oh no I agree
I like teal, just not paired with a silver jersey.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Seriously?
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Oct 8, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
So is Tim Rattay
Playoffs??? Playoffs??? We're baaaaack!!!
by corvette49rdave on Oct 8, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Dontarrious Thomas
is on the Redwoods. Correct me if I’m wrong but I think he was on our team last year.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
So um
What’s this about a terrible game? I didn’t know you judged the 22 men on the field by how many people are in the stands. If you cared to watch the whole thing it was a fast paced and very hard-hitting game. I’m very interested to see how this league looks in years two and three. It wasn’t the most thrilling game but we had two competent football teams and some monster collisions. With a bit more production value we’ve got ourselves a nice little league to pay attention to.
In short, don’t hate.
I don't hate either
I will probably give it a second chance. They should really have advertised more though.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Dennis Green
DG: IT ISN’T WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE AND WE LET IT OFF THE HOOK!
Jim Fassel: Get over yourself Denny, we’re horrible coaches. Why do you think we’re coaching in this league? Go Locos!!
So...
If your arm is going forward it’s a fumble AND you’re allowed to intentionally throw the ball at the ground when you’re under pressure? So, are the refs actually supposed to determine intent? If I challenge and I say I was throwing the ball to the ground, just underhanded, does that count? Sounds like totally impossible to officiate set of rules to me.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 9, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions
UFL and Arena Football
I hope it succeeds since its a complementary league to NFL.
Nice to have some extra discussions about the success stories and when some players make it to your team and see how well they played in CFL, Arena, Europe, and now UFL league.
Apparently it is old news, but the ARENA football league is starting again in 2010 Spring. Im in Phoenix so I’m rooting for Rattlers and free tickets to their games always show up some where.
One thing about UFL though that their website needs to be upgraded, or atleast the information on it. Can’t find stats or game summaries anywhere…
Quickly looking through the rosters, you can search for “49ers” from the league homepage and besides Tim Rattay, Brandon Moore, and Tony Parrish, there’s a bunch of other names that were sometimes part of our organization.

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