Panthers Watch 2009: Afternoon game thread
by Fooch on Nov 1, 2009 1:15 PM PST
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The 49ers game is now complete. I'll be home later to watch the game and recap it (if anybody I'm around tells me the score today I will in fact lose it!). The end of game/post-game thread is for discussion of the 49ers game.
This thread however, is for discussion of a very intriguing slate of afternoon games. There is of course the most discussed game nationally, Packers vs. Vikings. Everybody will be slobbering about Brett Favre returning to Green Bay. I'd love to see Packers fans throw crap at him, but I don't think they'll go that far. We'll see.
However, for 49ers fans, this afternoon is an especially big deal because the Panthers and Cardinals are squaring off. For purposes of 2009 we certainly would like a Panthers win. The Cardinals hold a one-game lead on the 49ers and whether the 49ers have won or lost in Indianapolis, a Cardinals loss would be huge for the 49ers playoff hopes.
Long term, a Panther loss would be a big plus for purposes of boosting that first round draft pick of theirs that the 49ers hold. For now I'm probably rooting for the Panthers. I really, really want to see the 49ers in the playoffs this season. A Cardinals loss would certainly boost those chances. And if the 49ers have lost to Indianapolis, a Cardinals loss would keep the 49ers only a game back.
By the time the Panthers-Cardinals game is over I'll hopefully be home and watching the 49ers game finally. Whatever the case, the Panthers recap/look forward will likely be delayed today (if it goes up at all).
Also, when this post goes up, could somebody post a link to it in the end of game/post-game thread? Thanks.
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Go Aaron Rodgers!
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Green Bay showing their love for Favre.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
any feeds to the Cardinals panthers game?
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.
by Nosetackle Supreme on Nov 1, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
gotta root for the Panthers now that the Niners choked themselves with two hands to the throat
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
3rd and 5 deep in their own territory and the Raiders run the ball. What? No trust in JaMarcus Russel?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he responded to one of my messages last week
to blame everything on Darrius Heyward-Bay
by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't Lamar and the other Kardashian break up?
and has anyone seen the Reggie Bush/Kim Kardashian sex video?
by Andrew Davidson on Nov 1, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha!!!
For Halloween JaMarcus is going to dress up as an athlete who actually gives a shit… no one will recognize me!
by 10forTech on Nov 1, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha....Favre
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just to let you guys know...
I got Crabtree’s stats right. In the Alex Smith prediction thread I predicted 6 catches for 81 yards
Do I get a cookie?
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The more I watch Harvin, the more I wish the Niners would have chosen him instead of Crabtree.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I liked Harvin more than Crabtree before the draft. Very explosive receiver and imagine him on our special teams?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In 2 games, without training camp, and only 2 weeks to prepare
Crabs has 11 catches for 137 yards. Don’t get me wrong, I like Harvin. But come on. Crabtree is going to be one of the premier WR’s in this league by next season.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So true
Crabtree has some of the strongest hands around. 81 yards today is pretty impressive for only his second pro game.
by smileyman on Nov 1, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He is missing a touch of explosiveness. A full NFL off season will correct that. Looking at close up shots he looked a bit soft . . . for NFL standards. Put on some extra muscle (same body weight) and add an extra step and he will be pretty beastly.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He should have been in training camp….
by 10forTech on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying training camp
Just a full off season in an NFL workout program. He’ll basically be lifting weights full time for 8 months with a team of experts to monitor his growth and strength development. Incoming rookies don’t get that training because they are still going to school.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I get what you're saying
I’m just saying he shouldn’t have been such a knucklehead with the holdout.
by 10forTech on Nov 1, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, whatever
I know what you really mean.
That whole fiasco is over, no use pointing fingers now. Crabs is playing and looks like the contract will work out in favor of his incentives. Not to mention the 49ers renegotiate fairly if they think he is worth more. If he’s the best WR in football next year the 49ers will tear up his rookie contract and offer him much more.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, tbh, I didn’t have playoffs on my mind to start the season. If the Panthers win and the Niners start winning games. I will be happy. If the Panthers win and the Niners continue to lose games. I think I would have rather had them lose.
by Badly Browned on Nov 1, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just to be clear, I will be rooting for the Panthers. :D
by Badly Browned on Nov 1, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Penalties already killing Green Bay.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is that Ahman Green
returning kicks for the Packers? Like Ahman “Once ran for 1800 yards” Green?
by Andrew Davidson on Nov 1, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this will be a rarity, but I'll say for the first time ever
Go Packers.
by Andrew Davidson on Nov 1, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s cool that he is still in the league.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Packers special teams suck.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
14-7 Panthers!
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Panthers
this is the one time I want you to win.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say this
but Minnesota is just plain better than Green Bay.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lot more options on offense
and then the lawfirm on defense.
by smileyman on Nov 1, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Laughed at that
Williams, Williams, and Allen. Good stuff.
Don't worry about me Thurgood, I'll be fine. The robbery is what's important now.
by the guy on Nov 1, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good news for us.
I think we should be the Titans and the Bears. Then we get the Packers at Lambeau. Should be interesting.
By the way, why is it that all of our tough games are away?
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because NFL schedule makers hate us.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always wonder that too. Big difference when you play the good teams on the road and crappy teams at home.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota is just a bad matchup for Green Bay. There is no way Green Bay wins this game.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well it looks like any chance they get they're happy to throw away.
So many crucial penalties.
by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Although that last penalty
appears to have been a tactical maneuver.
by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good News
If the game keeps going this way we won’t lose ground to AZ. The playoffs are still in sight.
"We want WINNERS!" - Coach Singletary
by cassusriff on Nov 1, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I know we own Carolina’s pick, but I want them to beat Arizona.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need them to
If they win we go down two games. If they lose we’re just down 1 game.
by smileyman on Nov 1, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think it will matter
The Panthers aren’t going to get anything lower than the #8 pick. The league has too many god awful football teams. Panthers winning 3 games might only give them the #7 pick.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lookin pretty good so far
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Warner throws an INT.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Game Over!
Minnestoa with a three possession lead and get the ball to start the 2nd half.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
GB is so unbelievably overrated
Horrible defense, no running game to mention (maybe NFL worst) and there passing play calling is atrocious. Every play is a 20 yard deep route while they have no healthy OT.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when McCarthy was our OC?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I didn't like him
To top things off he was a big voice in picking Alex Smith over Rogers and than he instantly bailed to go work with Rogers. I don’t know how in the world that hiring ever happened for GB.
Seemed to me the Packers were better running quick pass patterns.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap it’s only 2:41, seems like 5 PM to me
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
well it is 5 pm here in VA lol
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t even know it was daylight savings time until early this morning.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha me too, i woke up and my girlfriend called to remind me, i set my clock back and went back to sleep lol
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m starting to think that with Carolina’s pick we need a fat guy to collapse O-Lines, a good pass rush would certainly hide the weakness of that secondary.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 2:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good Game!
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Arizona has been so crappy at home this year. Their poor fans. I love it….
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Winning
They better, I picked them in my knockout pool.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering if they even look like a team when they play the Niners next week.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let them get their win
They will fall flat against the 49ers.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
man hard to make a case against Harvin as ROTY so far
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
All he does is make big plays. Why have been saying that Harvin and Maclin are Crabtree’s rivals and not DHB.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because
DHB was picked before Crabtree, when everyone in the world thought Crabtree would be the 1st receiver taken…the order remained the same..it should have been Crabtree, Harvin/Maclin, Hicks/DHB, etc…
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 1, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody here talk about Nate Clements yet?
Maiocco reported he might be done for the year… he has a fractured shoulder blade, and they’ll re-examine it tomorrow
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this cant be right.
anyone got a clip of the injury?
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just check out
twitter.com/mattmaiocco or twitter.com/mattbarrows
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s awful. Singletary has a lot to answer for.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so that basically puts Tarell Brown in instead
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as he doesn’t put Crabtree or Gore on punt return next week….
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, what's wrong with Hill, or Jones?
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jones, you mean Mr. Fair Catch at the 4 yard line? Battle muffed a punt last week and had no business trying to catch either.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, so we’re basing our opinions of ONE PLAY WHERE HE CALLED A FAIR CATCH AT THE 1? You’re right, these aren’t easily fixed, obviously you learn from your mistakes, and he probably heard about it on the sideline, so i’ll take him over anybody right now, him or Hill
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He can’t do any worse than Clements or Battle. Battle couldn’t hold onto the football. Clements looked so damn slow. He’d break 3 tackles and only game 4 yards.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
{Site Decorum}
Same injury as Pathos. Put return again!!!!
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at NFC West Schedule
I think we can still go 9-7. Cards also look 9-7. Seahawks look 6-10. That includes a predicted win by us over the Cards at home. We would get the tie breaker.
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
by dartdart on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Titans, Bears, Cardinals, Jaguars and Lions at home, Seattle and St. Louis on the road— all of those are winnable games. But because of where we are now, they’re also all pretty much must-win games.
Honestly, I feel like I’m pretty optimistic, but I think 8-8 is the most likely outcome.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
favre cam is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of.
just when I think I can’t hate the guy more then I do these douchebags find another new and exciting way to shove him down my throat.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 3:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for it this week
Let the Packer fans suffer. The rest of the NFL had to endure for a decade.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol good point
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen to that.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
zOMG Brett Favre is Mr. NFL Wonderful
He can do no wrong. He’s always making a great play. Every broadcaster wants to make love child. The other QB in comparison wishes he could be Brett Favre, the ultimate team, NFL football player and winner.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so to speak...
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
by dartdart on Nov 1, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Staley’s knee is going to be alright.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
good news
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
link?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rodgers is starting to get great pass protection now.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lots of fights in the game
Really, it’s time to get a grip. Seems like every other drive.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Green Bay must have the special teams coach as Cal.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Another homework assignment
Who is the most ZOMG return man in college that the 49ers can pick in the 3rd round?
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Demeco Murray
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me Noel Devine could be really, really good at returning if he was used more in that way (he returns kicks, not punts for WVU), but that’s pretty much just speculation. Plus, there’s no way Singletary would let McCloughan pick a RB that small— doesn’t fit teh SMASHMOUTH profile that’s doing so well for us right now.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Singletary can see the value of a return man at this point.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Green Bay’s special teams were a little better, they probably could be leading this game.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Warner picked again lol…
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 3:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rams, only team in division with a win this week.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Funny how things work out sometimes.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
4 interceptions for Warner
Funny how the playoff game last year was the downfall of the Panthers. Now the Panthers are back on track thanks to the Cards.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 3:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I dunno if they are back yet. Jake only has 90 yards passing. Still, it’s impressive how they ran the ball against the Cards #1 ranked run D.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I meant.
They’re bouncing back.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
- D? The only reason for that is because teams can pass all over them.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
raider receivers bump into each other and both fall down
raiders cant convert on 4th and 20. raiders lose
by Rep the Bay on Nov 1, 2009 3:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I saw that
I couldn’t stop laughing. Only the Raiders.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Minny defense now can’t stop a single play.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well i left for most of the day.
i just wanted to come over and congratulate you on a good game. although it was a frustrating game for me to follow for multiple reasons i was impressed by your defense. there were other factors involved in what we saw but the D desirves a lot of credit for there play. good luck with the rest of your season
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 4:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
also was very impressed by the play of crabtree. made a
few rookie mistakes but overall good job
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least one of you
is still classy.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
most are but all blogs have a few hot heads
I know what you ar reffering to i read those posts and they were going down a lot but i like some others have posted and said find it hard to believe it was cheating. i think it was just cause of how it looked. smith although didn’t have big numbers or anything i think he still did a decent job with few mistakes.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
proud to be
the best NFCW team to play the colts. See you in the SB (dare to dream)
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
by dartdart on Nov 1, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s right, everyone else got blown out.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks ANGELSFAITH good luck with the rest of the season
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha what was he thinking…? Warner tried to run and wound up giving Peppers a piggy back ride. Fumble! Under review.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 4:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is this the point of the season
the Cards fall apart?
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Warner just hasn’t played well at home this year for some reason. Cards could still win this game even after Warner has turned it over 5 times, so the rest of the team is playing ok I guess.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope so
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Carolina and S.F. now have the same record 3-4.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 1, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
makes ya start to wonder who is really going to have the worse pick.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No it doesn't
They’ll win five or six games. We’ll win 9 or 10.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well that’s just great, Warner turns the ball over 6 times, YOU SUCK, never starting you again on my fantasy team, from now on it’s Matt Ryan, and now Owen Daniels is out for the season, dunno who to pick up now… what a day
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
vd
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
by dartdart on Nov 1, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mister “I lead the NFL in Rec. TD’s” Davis
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why you let the full 16 game season play out
Thank you Carolina for avenging your playoff loss. NN appreciates it.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 4:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now don't win again this season.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL... Agreed.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of makes you wonder what's happened with the Giants
They seem to be in freefall. They lost last week to the Cards, who lost this week to the Panthers.
by Bob On The Coast on Nov 1, 2009 5:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I keep saying they aren't that good
Where is Drew K? Does he respectfully disagree now?
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea yeah
you’re probably right…. I thought the 2 losses were a fluke. You were right I was wrong. I still think that they have talent on the team though. It’s just not being utilized correctly. Losing Spagnualo hurt them and it didn’t help the Rams any
by Drew K on Nov 1, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Coordinators
Seems the Giants miss Spags, the Ravens miss Ryan, the Eagles had been missing Johnson, Titans miss Schwartz and the Cardinals miss Haley.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We don't miss Martz
Really, I see a few people calling his name . . . please don’t do that.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I’m just bragging cause I understand one team. Ok, I thought the Saints and Vikings would be the class of the NFC but my AFC predictions completely suck. When are my Ravens going to kick into gear? Oh right, after they fire Cam Cameron. If they had Jimmy Raye’s conservative play calling the Ravens would be 6-1.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So what to do about the Niners' offense?
The passing game looks pretty good out of the shotgun. Not so much from the line of scrimmage. Would the running game be any worse out of the shotgun?
And what about the running game? Gore’s had three long runs this season, but not much else. I’m not blaming this on Gore, just saying that once he clears the box he can rack up long runs. But running is supposed to give your team ball control and time of possession (to rest the defense), and to set up better passing situations for second and third downs. The team is getting none of that value from the run. The Niners could substitute a short passing game to Frank to serve as a substitute for runs.
It just seems that Raye and Sing haven’t admitted to themselves that the run game, as constructed, isn’t working. For long stretches of the game we got the same Gore up the middle, and if it didn’t work with a healthy O-line it certainly wasn’t going to work with what’s there now.
The Niners have more talent than they’ve had in the last five years, but there are still glaring holes. They gambled with Marvel Smith and took Crabtree. I think the Crabtree move had to be done once he was available, but the Niners need more good linemen, and there just aren’t that many out there. In the shotgun the pass blocking functions adequately.
So for the rest of the year, will the Niners offensive strategy adapt to their strengths? I sure hope so. If they’d been a little more adventurous during the second and third quarters the Niners might have actually won this game.
by Bob On The Coast on Nov 1, 2009 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
how I interpret the running game
We’ve seen once again this year that when Gore gets to the second level, he’s deadly. The problem is that guys aren’t opening up enough holes at the line of scrimmage. At root, then, what we need to do is get some better linemen in there. But that’s mostly something that will have to be taken care of in the offseason. In the present, what I think the team has to do is find a way to keep the DL off balance a bit more. Mix in different looks— play action, draws, screen passes, counters— things to keep them hesitant and guessing and which could spring Gore more often. We simply don’t have the guys up front to be a pure “hit ’em in the mouth, straight up the gut, three yards and a cloud of dust” team right now.
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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We can't never run
There’s horrid english. Just because we don’t run well does not mean we stop running. As it is, we call more pass plays than run plays so I’d argue we should keep doing what we’re doing. Just hope that the line blocks better, regardless of what play is called. If we never run then Hill will again be our QB because Smith will get killed. Then so will Hill. We have to keep teams honest and hope that the downfield threat that Smith provides opens up more runs.
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by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Staley?
49er16 says above the knee is alright…. anybody read anything to confirm?
by mwright84 on Nov 1, 2009 6:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maiocco blogged that he was walking around in the locker room after the game and that the team apparently doesn’t think it will be season-ending.
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by Smoke on the Water on Nov 1, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Was Traveling All Day
Did catch the entire 49ers game and will have MANY comments on that one in the next few days.
I just learned that Carolina beat Arizona upon coming home. All i can say is wow. The one time i will go for Carolina this season and they win. Please do us another favor and lose your next 9 games LOL. 49ers are only one game back in the west so all is not lost!!!
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 1, 2009 7:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Time to go on a win streak!!
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We Can
If they decide to open up the offense a little bit. I mean give me a break, that one drive really got me angry. Why hand off to Norris on 2nd down? What they heck was that?
1. Give Alex more time to pass the ball. Believe it or not Sims played well today.
2. The Clements injury may actually be a blessing in disguise. Brown is a rising star and Spencer has been playing at a pro bowl level
3. The next two games are ones we should win. Against Tennessee and Chicago, we are better then both of them and they are at home
4. Demote Bruce to the #4 WR. Just too many dropped passes this season
5. Think about having Spurlock return kicks. Like that should even be in question
6. Time to plan the passing attack behind Crabtree. It is obvious he is the #1 receiver. 81 yards in his 2nd game. Dude is the real deal, steal of the draft
7. Let Smith open it up and run more spread formations
8. Maybe just maybe fire Raye or at the very least remove his play calling duties.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 1, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Some disagreements
The handoff to Norris is a misdirection play meant to catch the defense over-focusing on Gore. It worked against STL and is a good change of pace play against a quick pursuit defense.
2) Nate is a good & experienced punt returner so we’ll miss that and his run support from the secondary on defense.
5) I’m fine with Robinson returning kicks. He’s not a TD threat but he is physical to tackle, punishes the guy who tries to take him down straight on and holds on to the ball. He’s also quick enough that he usually makes the 30 yard line. If we activate Spurlock that means another WR is not on the active 45. I thought Battle did well on coverage units today and would like for that to be his main work, with Crabtree, Morgan, Jones, Bruce/Hill being our WRs.
8) Raye isn’t the problem. Blocking is the problem. There are certainly better O-coordinators but the reason we’re not happy with Raye is that so many plays don’t work because of the O-line. I thought he called a good game; the problem is that we had three successful drives end in an INT, fumble and sacked out of FG range with a 3-man rush.
I agree with the rest and look forward to your posting more analysis.
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by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clements
scared me when he was returning punts. I just felt really uneasy. Might have been the way he was carrying the ball. I felt like one good pop and it was coming out. Felt a bit better with B. Jones back there even though he fair caught that pass on the 5. Perhaps it could have been worse and downed at the 1 but Just felt better with him back there than Clements…
and (8)…. Thought the blocking actually looked respectable today. The Colts blocking was even worse than ours today.
by Drew K on Nov 1, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Worse than ours?
I’d disagree. Our sacks were all coverage sacks. Which is fine because our secondary is our strength and I didn’t expect easy pressure on a QB that had been sacked only twice all year. Alex was sacked much more quickly and had less time to make decisions.
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by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2 out of 3
And Manning was being pressured all day. Hence his struggles 0TD 0INT very uncommon for Manning.
I would at least call it a draw. They had zero run game and our D-line is not great. In order for us to get 3 sacks, I’d say that their line did not play to their capacity today.
I’ve watched 3 other Colts games and they have given Manning hours to throw the ball in other games. Poll Colts fans… I bet you discover that there’s was below.
And for our line, I cannot think of another game where our O-line played better. 14 points doesn’t dictate how they played at all.
by Drew K on Nov 1, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think ours was better vs Seattle
And I’d attribute Mannings numbers to our secondary. They were incredible as they usually are. The trick play got us though and I have to tip my hat to the Indy coaches for that one.
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by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
that was a good play call. But I am pretty stoked that it took a trick play to beat us. That means our defense was playing great yesterday. If Peyton Manning cannot beat us straight up when we’re playing at our best, that speaks miles of our defense. I just hope they can play like this game in game out. It certainly helped that the offense kept the ball long enough for the defense to get some oxygen back in their lungs
by Drew K on Nov 2, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What a weird afternoon!
I was torn between wanting the Cardinals to win and wanting the Panthers to lose. But I guess the Cards losing helps us in the short term. Jimmy Raye is not a very good OC. He is presented with the tools to be successful throwing the ball, yet he goes back to running it in the second half and they dont score another point. WHY? Why not keep doing what was successful in the first half? Most Coordinators make adjustments at the half, but not to get worse! The Niner’s had a chance, but Raye took a dump in in pants and sat in it. The Defense played a courageous game, only to have the offense take the second half off. If I was Manusky, I’d go over and punch Raye in the face!! They just needed to keep doing what they had done in the first half and they would have had a chance. But going conservative and unsuccessfully running for no gain isn’t an offense, it’s throwing the game! Raye isn’t going to cut it. Someone else needs to call the plays. He takes too long to get the plays in which has caused too many delay penalties. Then the plays he calls are dumb and predictable. Someone needs to take over play calling, because Raye is pathetic. The defense looked heroic stopping Manning and the Offense Coordinator looked like he shit his pants and sat in it. The whole second half was an indictment of Raye and his failure to do his job. The offensive guys must be sick of this by now. They have success in the first half throwing the ball. WHY go to the run in the second half? Why stick with the run when it was totally unsuccessful? The blame has to be laid at the feet of the Offensive Coordinator! Raye needs to be stripped of play calling. Let somebody else have a try at it. Raye is totally ineffective and predictable.
Raye has lost by himself at least 3 games with his idiotic play calling. We need a play caller who calls plays that take advantage of what is working, not change gears and shift into LOSER gear! The weapons are there to succeed! If we passed the ball on 1st or second down in the second half, maybe we could have SCORED, but we were SHUT OUT the entire second half trying to run the ball when running the ball was not working!!! We need a play caller that can mix it up a bit and throw the ball on running downs and visa versa! We need adjustments at halftime that IMPROVE our chances of winning, not diminish them! Who else can we blame but RAYE? He is in charge of the offense and the play calling. It was clear that neither of those chores were done correctly in the second half! Trying to run the ball to kill clock TO BEGIN THE SECOND HALF IS CRAZY!
They need to strip Raye of his play calling responsibilities and give someone else a try. We were doing fine throwing the ball. Smith had success in the shotgun. WHY GO AWAY FROM THAT?? Mix in a shotgun once or twice. Run out of that formation a coupla times. There are so many things that went so wrong in that second half. The adjustments at the half were a disaster on the offensive side. The defense was nothing short of HEROIC in their effort to stop Manning, yet the offense went into prevent victory mode. It is obvious that Raye is the culprit. STRIP HIM OF PLAY CALLING DUTIES NOW !! I swear, if the Niners had come out in the second half in the shotgun and just kept doing what they did in the first half the Niners would have won that game period!!!
Even with this loss, the Niners are at 3-4 and are still in second place in the NFC Worst. They need to get someone who can call the plays correctly, get the plays in to the QB before the delay of game penalty, and start using ALL the weapons the WHOLE game. It’s time to either get Raye to improve or to replace him with one of the younger coaches under him. Somebody on that Offense coaching staff has got to be able to do a better job than RAYE is doing! One of them must be able to see where we are offensively and can call plays that make sense! Raye is BLOWING it big time!!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on Nov 1, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, my question now, is Reggie Smith a CB or a safety? and is Tarell Brown ready? he looked decent today
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Smith
is a safety… and I thought tarel brown looked good today. Don’t think he will start though. Sing mentioned that this change was only due to circumstance. So it should be back to normal next week
by Drew K on Nov 1, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s because the Colts receivers were all over 6’ plus i think the starters against the titans will be bly and spencer with brown. And i didn’t know that Smith was a safety, i figured, so how’s he going to factor in?
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Takes Roman's spot next season
But we’d all like him to get healthy and receive playing time this year.
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by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We’ll have to draft a CB for next season
by PiKAgiant on Nov 1, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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