I'm Done
by SSC24 on Nov 1, 2009 2:01 PM PST
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I'm done,
With Jimmy Raye and his offensive failures, relying on the defense to be the game-saver.
For not allowing A. Smith to blossom. Give him a chance, and he'll be awesome.
For playing Isaac Bruce with his alligator arms, and sitting J. Hill, causing major harm.
For using M. Norris when we don't need him. Third and short was just fine but second and long the colts beat him.
For rushing on first down almost every time. I believe not learning from mistakes in the NFL should be a crime.
For not getting the ball to VD enough. He had three catches for 20 yards; too little for a guy that tough.
For not opening up the playbook like in the texans game. Do we have to trail every time to see Alex make it rain?
For making the formations and plays so readable. I bet a 5-year-old kid can make an offense less predictable.
For setting up long third downs, giving Alex a slim chance of getting the first down.
What's the point of looking forward to the next game when Jimmy's the sheriff in town?
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Easy there fella. The season isn’t over yet.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 1, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not saying I'm done with the Forty Niners...
Just saying I’m done with Raye.
Natural hater of all NY, Pittsburgh, Oakland, LA, and Dallas teams
by SSC24 on Nov 1, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree
Rookie mistakes cost us. You have to hold on to the ball.
I’m disappointed.
by 10forTech on Nov 1, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
On that play
A colts player was off sides and it wasn’t called. Typical away game…Too bad for Crabs as well. Not to worry, though. He’ll only get better.
Natural hater of all NY, Pittsburgh, Oakland, LA, and Dallas teams
by SSC24 on Nov 1, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Par for the course
Can’t beat up a rookie for fumbling in his 2nd game, especially when the offense is leaning on him so heavily.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was not disappointed
He’s not that bad (see: DHB, Raiders)
Jerry Rice led the league in drops his rookie season….
I’m just glad he hasn’t pulled a hammy.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
first off
his elbow was down on the other side of his body and as far as i know and elbow down is the same as a knee down. and the defensive end on the colts was lined up offsides on that play anyways. also crabby made a bunch of big catches throughout the game so you cant put this on the rookie
Chuck Norris has only lost in one thing. 1 on 1 with Monta.
by theoloukos on Nov 1, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
offsides
The colts looked to be lined up offsides on way too many snaps.
It got annoying
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There wasn't enough first down running
We had 32 passes and 18 runs, and Smith’s turnover was HUGE in the loss.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
smith's int was not a HUGE loss
i could be wrong but that happen in the 1st quarter. they had 3more quarters to make up for that. on top of that we were winning into the 4th quarters so that int didn’t even have a impact. a mistake yes, a HUGE loss no.
go niners!!! airday allday
by calinig4life on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2 Turnovers gave up 2 FG's
He’s not entirely wrong. He’s also right about passing the ball. The team passed the ball heavily. Unless someone wants to blame Raye for not running the ball than their isn’t much of an argument.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funniest thing about it
He runs a lot then he’s ridiculed, then he passes too much and is still ridiculed for running too much.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With me its not so much him running or passing too much it is more his lack of creativity.
I want me some Buster
by gbears16 on Nov 1, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
That and his predictability.
Natural hater of all NY, Pittsburgh, Oakland, LA, and Dallas teams
by SSC24 on Nov 1, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or just flat out
calling the wrong play at the wrong time. The plays are fine. It’s just when and what he calls that are problems at times. Rember this though, even though Raye evidently thinks at glacial speed, at the pace of a tortoise, slower than dripping molasses… He is not to completely balme. If the plays he calls are not being executed, then it’s sort of a 50/50 blame.
Personally, I would just like to have some continuity at the OC position. People fail to get that everybody is new. It’s Singletary, Raye, and a couple other coaches first year. All I am saying is give him a full year to pass judgement. If by years end he doesn’t get more creative, then yes, at that point hack him and hope that a Norv Turner-like-guy is available
by Drew K on Nov 1, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree's turnover was much bigger (and worse) than Smith's.
Smith had an INT on a tipped ball. THat sort of thing happens to every QB. It wasn’t a great throw, mind you, so he’s not without blame (some tips the QB can take no blame for) but trying to hang this on his shoulders makes no sense.
Crabtree’s fumble was a bigger deal – we were looking dangerous.
But honestly, you know what mistakes i want to take back? VD’s false start followed by a gimmie sack, and Morgan’s penalty.
Those three mistakes were a six-point swing in a game we lost by four. Now, granted, the Colts play the endgame different down one(they would have kicked the PAT) than up four, but that puts our defense on the field with a chance to win it, with the pressure on the colts.
by Ronaldinho on Nov 1, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3 and out punt.............no points from that
That interception was 70 percent Smith and 30 percent Raye
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That ball was catchable but I am not saying non of the blame was on Smith but some has to be put on Crabtree. If he goes for that ball with two hands, he has a better chance to catch it rather than tip it up. I would say 90% of tipped balls over the middle are gonna be intercepted.
I want me some Buster
by gbears16 on Nov 1, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He couldn't go for the ball with two hands, what game were you watching?
That was on a bad throw and a bad play call to not go with the run when the Colts were on their heels.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If its not tipped then it most likely isnt picked. Im not saying its not Smiths fault all Im saying is that Crabtree shares the blame. Ive always thought tipped interceptions should be in a different category because they are not all the QBs fault.
I want me some Buster
by gbears16 on Nov 1, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you put 30% on Raye?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But I'm not thinking Fire Raye he just needs ot let his QB get more comfortable.
Save the heavy passing for the 4th if needed and use the 2 min offense in spurts during drives.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
fired
don’t know bout that. it’s the middle of the season & i don’t know but i doubt there’s n-e-1 out there right now that’s better know & for the future
go niners!!! airday allday
by calinig4life on Nov 1, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
greatest post of the year
I literally agree with everything you are saying. Bring back Martz…imagine this offense with a guy who loves to throw downfield.
by theduke85 on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The only reason that worked...
Is because after Sing took over he told Martz to calm it down, and i promise prior to that everyone was preaching to run the ball and stop throwing picks.
I think Raye can get it done but sing is just going to have to have a talk with him, you think if Martz or anyone else was here that he would be allowed to throw the ball 40 times??? i think not.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
A person like Martz won’t sit on his hands for very long before he would snap and tell Sing to shove it. Martz thinks he is Gods gift to football.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raye will never let a QB throw for 300 yards.
That’s not what Sing wants, we can complain about Raye all we want but if sing see’s no problem in it then nothing will change.
Raye came from Marty S. He believed in: get the lead, run the ball, play D, and that’s what we do. we don’t play to win. we play to not lose. that’s why we don’t push the ball down the field like many of us want.
It’s not Raye, Sing needs to make a change in what we are trying to do and until he does we will see 1 TD 150 passing yard games all year with low scores.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I said yes, but not for the same reasons as most
I dont really like Jimmy Rayes job so far, but we quite simply dont have the tools to do what he wants to do. If we had a top 10 O-Line would the running game be more effective? obviously. But we dont, and this is what we have.
I voted yes because i believe theres going to be better options available. If Norv Turner doesnt get resigned as the Chargers coach, hes not going to get another HC job. Hes going to go back to a OC job. I just cant even fathom the 49ers not bringing Norv back if hes available. It would just be stupid not to.
by Beatclash on Nov 1, 2009 2:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Passing game
What happened to that 4, 5 recievers sets we where seeing against the Texans? What i’m trying to say is that they were passing out of an I-formation with 2 recievers outside, not exactly what we saw with Smith last week. And why was Bruce playing? The guy dropped like 2 easy passes that hit him in the hands.
The defense was outstanding though keeping the Colts out of the endzone most of the game and limiting the damage Manning could of done. What the Niners did today was the quintessential way a team could defeat the Colts. Make them kick field goals instead of TD’s, which they did. And score TD’s yourself, which the Niners didn’t do.
What i saw was the usual bland running plays when the Niners had the lead then they started passing when the Colts caught up, to little to late. I want the Niners to revert to a more permenant passing attack until in a few years when they have the linemen to be a smash mouth team.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 3:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Only thing I'd disagree with you on is the running plays when had the lead
That’s one technique that is widely used against Manning. As the saying goes the best way to keep a team from scoring is to not let them on the field. Now we can debate if it was overdone or even if that is a viable strategy but it is one that is used by most teams when facing the Colts.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Nov 1, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to those sets
Was Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis. They were keeping extra protection in every single play and Alex was still running for his life.
Alex did some nifty work to save sacks with “bad passes” that were essentially groundings on busted plays about 4 or 5 times in addition to the 4 sacks he stood no chance on.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 1, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Jimmy Raye’s poor playcalling could not have been more apparent today than it has been since the start of the season. I’m no football expert, but common sense tells you that when you have a very narrow lead going into the second half, your objective should not be time management, but to increase that lead substantially enough so that the other team’s offense has less of a chance of scoring.
I think the reason the 49ers have “nearly won” but fallen short versus Minnesota, Houston and now Indianapolis is because of the “run the clock” mentality that Jimmy Raye has. I thought it was unwise to appear to run the clock in the middle of the third quarter, as opposed to increasing the lead so that the obviously struggling Indianapolis offense wouldn’t be able to catch up. Peyton Manning did not score a single touchdown, so it was blatantly obvious the 49ers defense had him completely figured out.
If anyone is wondering why the 49ers cannot finish games despite obviously having the talent now, it is exactly because of offensive playcalling, or lack thereof. We should be striving to increase our lead when our lead is narrow so early in the half.
by JHill26 on Nov 1, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That loss to The Vikings is on the secondary....................period and no one else , but maybe manusky
We got away from the run, and we also need to not use that damn formation with two WR’s on one side. It flat out doesn’t work. Raye needs to look at The broncos and patriots run the bubble screen and even the Colts because his is garbage, very garbage. There has to be some pride swallowing going on, and Raye needs to retweek some of his plays
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody in ninersnation can call better plays than Raye!!!!
Unacceptable!!! Flip past the 1st page Jimmy, there’s more in the playbook to be called!!
by sundaysfinest on Nov 1, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well....
In madden i can tear it up with the Niners, let me call the games!! lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 1, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Go for it LOL
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I almost never use our (offensive) playbooks
I use the “run n’ gun” and Mike Nolan’s defense (madden players don’t get confused and it’s a pretty good defense when the players know what they’re doing)..
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raye has no creativity. Period.
He is ridiculed because he calls the same plays over and over. Last week was the first time he mixed it up… in the second half. I don’t have a problem running all game if you change it up. But all game, did you see any sweeps, tosses, end arounds (even though I hate these as they rarely work) or anything other than dives? His run playbook seems to consist of dive middle, dive left, or dive right. That’s it. Load the box, and the run is stopped.
As for passing, same applies. You have a mobile QB, how about a roll out, screen, bootleg, or the infinite other options that keep the defense guessing. Where were those wildcats from last week (even though they did change the result much), it keeps the defense guessing. I really hate Jimmy Raye. I blame him for the Min loss and todays. If he doesn’t get replaced, he at least needs to be punched int he gut and told to get his act together.
by AKinferno on Nov 1, 2009 4:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
man i'm going to hate to play madden next year.
SF playbook is going to have 4 run plays and like 10 pass plays and 5 formations.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Sounds like twice the size of Raye’s playbook.
by AKinferno on Nov 1, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if we picked up peyton...
we could just fire Ray all together, he can mix it up more on the field than raye can
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raye has looked better with improved QB play
Not imagine how much better he would look with improved line blocking? I wasn’t a fan of the hire nor am I fan of his, but I do know that no coordinator would look great with the way the line has blocked.
Gore had 13 carries. One could argue that he should’ve called more run plays. I certainly thought and posted during the game that he should call more pass plays on early downs, but had he done it more and Alex been sacked people would rip him for not running more with Barry Sims playing LT.
We had two good drives going, with the lead, and each ended with a turnover. Neither was Raye’s fault. We had a third drive (our final one) that reached the 30 but had a delay of game and sack vs a 3-man rush. Perhaps it’s more about the players. I’m certainly willing to give Alex, Crabtree and the entire unit a few weeks to find cohesion. But I also know that the line can’t be fixed until the offseason.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree our line needs work...
But knowing that, would you have all your run plays as draws and dives right through the line? Knowing they don’t block well, wouldn’t you want to roll out you quarterback or try a bootleg or any other things to spread the defense and keep them from just rolling over the line to the pocket. There are plays that would help with our crappy line, but they don’t seem to be on his playbook. I think last week he must have been using someone elses. All the variety from 2nd half last week was gone today.
by AKinferno on Nov 1, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like the draws
Especially today against a two speed rushers. I think that Raye now has more of hi splaybook at his disposal with Smith at QB. Today was game one, on the road, vs a great passrush. Let’s let him have a few weeks with Smith and Crabtree while playing lesser defenses to find what he thinks they do best and how to utilize the entire unit with all these weapons. Starting with Tennessee this week.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raye called a running play on 2nd and 20. 2ND AND 20! WTF is up with that? When you have a crappy line isn’t it common sense to call some quick passes to WR’s in slant routes or dumpoffs to TE’s and RB’s? Then when the D is expecting pass THEN you run the ball.
We also have to recongnize that Raye isn’t exactly using weapons right or to their fullest extent. Not once did i see Crabtree run a slant route from the slot, no screens to Crabs either, tell me if i’m wrong but isn’t that what Crabs was known for at Texas Tech? Also where is Jason Hill? Whose coaches’ daughter did he sleep with to ride the bench?
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You want to run the slot route against the Cover 2 defense?
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the old “take what the defense gives you” excuse.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering both a LB and S will be sitting in that slot route you better make sure it doesn’t kill the WR.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Except that's what good offenses do in the passing game
You don’t throw into coverage. The West Coast Offense was designed around the idea of the receivers making reads and adjusting dynamically to what the defense gave them, to take the pass with the greatest chance of success. More traditional offenses have set routes, but the quaterback decides which one he’s going to go to based on his read – based on what the defense is giving him.
You don’t like the fact that Raye called a run on 2nd and 20 … except that he called a draw play. A draw play is one of the classic ways to exploit a defense that is thinking pass – you let the d-line get behind the play to create space. It didn’t work. Of course, your criticism is almost nonsensical because you say run when the D is expecting pass, which is of course what they’re expecting on 2nd and 20.
That draw didn’t work, but every team in the league runs draws a reasonable percentage of the time in that situation.
The slant route is effective when there’s a seam to exploit, because the linebackers are blitzing or stepping up to protect against the run. Otherwise, it’s a great way to get your receiver’s heads taken off, and they’re running INTO a linebacker who can sit and wait for them, or step in front of them to break up the play/make a pick. Dungy’s tweaks to the traditional cover 2 made slants ineffective unless you could do something to freeze the MLB.
Look, if you’re going to criticize an o.c., you really should know this stuff. It’s not rocket science. This is all football 101.
by Ronaldinho on Nov 1, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct
And I actually wanted Raye to call a draw to Gore on our penultimate drive, the 3rd & 12 from the Colts 35-yd line. Had Gore gained 5 yards or less, we kick the FG and make it a one point game. If he gains more than 5, go for it on 4th down. As it turned out, Indy rushed only three men (so it likely would’ve gained decent yards) but instead we got sacked. It’s results like that that make any OC a bit more conservative.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 2, 2009 1:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Crabtree fumble was similar to a screen pass
And it depends on how he’s being defensed. If, as a rookie, they’re playing him bump and run then a screen is not the best idea.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they also had a nice drive...
stopped by a RIDICULOUS holding penalty called on Baas, when the defender spun himself so much that he fell all by himself, and they called Baas for it…they had a 1st down around the 40, but it was brought back for a 2nd and 20
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 1, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
We don’t have room for error, our own or ones caused by the refs. especially on the road vs a team this good. Eliminate the mistakes, self-inflicted and bogus, and I bet we feel different about Raye. Since we’d score more than 14 and would have won.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell this game...
I was for Raye, but now he needs to go
by danknerd49 on Nov 1, 2009 5:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The question is ... how much of the playcalling is Raye
And how much is Raye doing what Sing is telling him to do?
by Ronaldinho on Nov 1, 2009 5:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Sing is telling Raye what to do on the offense as when to run and when to pass
Otherwise he’d be on his butt like he used to be with Martz.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted no
Just because FOR CHRIST’S SAKE LETS HAVE SOME OFFENSIVE CONTINUITY FOR ONCE! 5 offensive coordinators in 5 years… Yes Norv and Martz were better and Sing’s single biggest blunder was firing Martz. But lets just get some continuity for a year or two before we dump Raye.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 1, 2009 6:11 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
+1
Good opposing point. I have to agree with you on that one…
Natural hater of all NY, Pittsburgh, Oakland, LA, and Dallas teams
by SSC24 on Nov 1, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Martz is a moron. Wouldn’t mind if Turner came back though
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Turner
Would be the only OC I would say to dump Raye for. Alex already knows that system and succeeded under it. Now he would be ready to tear it up under that system. Hopefully Norv would stick around for a while this time
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 1, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Alex wasn't a smart guy his brain would melt
He has 5 offensive systems worth of plays he has stored up there.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 1, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Mike Johnson take over ASAP
Maybe next season (probably not) or in 2011 (probably)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bruce had a couple of drops
don’t remember if they were 3rd down play or what, but he had at least 2 from my memory.
I think they should call more play actions. Also they should dump some WRs to bring another TE and RB on the 53 man roster.
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Nov 1, 2009 7:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
still
think smith is as good as, if not better than aaron rogers? child please
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Nov 1, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hes better than what he used to be. Not up there with rodgers yet
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he'll be better than Rodgers.
I feel confident of that. What until he has some protection from a stronger, healthier offensive line. Alex Smith will light them up.
by zacksf on Nov 1, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rodgers looks like a young Smith or Hill with his current O-line
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rodgers singlehandedly kept the Packers in the game vs. the Vikes today
I think he’s better than a young Smith or Hill….
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Vikings defense kept the Packers in the game.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to give Rodgers credit
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is good, always been a fan. I think McCarthy has been a terrible coach and the Packers hype has been over the top. 6-10 team last year with still a questionable defense this season.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rodgers is a beast.
Can you imagine how awesome he would be if he had time to throw?
Oh wait, he threw 3TDs in one half when his O-line finally gave him time……
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was more of his coach remembering he could throw 3 step passes and the GB WRs are really good at running after the catch. I was waiting for McCarthy to figure it out during the 49ers match up.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's still better than Alex Smith
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Packers don’t limit Rogers hits he may end up with his own shoulder injury. Alex has a chance to catch up, but he has a long way to go.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully not
He’s on 2 of my fantasy teams.
He’s got a foot injury right now though…..dammit
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 2, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree with you he’s supposed to have more upside than rodgers when we drafted him I heard. Next year he should start tearing it up.
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He’ll start tearing up some muscles with that O-line.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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