Why is Spurlock on our team???
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM PST
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So i'm getting sick of watching Percy Harvin, Ginn Jr, Sproles, Royal, amongst others return kicks for big yards or TD's.
This brings me to my question why the hell do we have a WR on the roster that was only known for returning kicks, all the while we are searching for a return man???
Seriously complain about whatever you want, O-line, QB, WR, RB, all the people starting i can't really argue with. i mean we can assume one QB might play better than the other, or why a O-lineman is playing instead of this or that one, but we can all agree the people returning kicks have been confusing as all hell, nor does anyone think that we have managed our return game properly.
Which brings me back to my question. Why is Spurlock on our team?
UPDATE!!!
I just realized a few things.
We released Rossum so we could keep Ziegler on the practice squad, which lead to Sheets getting picked up off the practice squad. We then let Battle return punts and Walker who both fumbled (walker we had no TO's to challenge) and Battle multiple fumbles, one which people feel like costs us the game.
NOW, we lost Clements for a few games if not the season and we are left with what exactly? so basically this was all so we could keep Ziegler.
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This should really be an on going thread. Should have been posted all of the prior 8 weeks. Spurlock must be the best scout team player ever cause nothing else adds up.
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i'm telling you i was looking for a thread but nothing.
which is crazy given its an obvious ?
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We need this guy retunring kicks and punts, because his not doing anything else. They had an 80 million dollar man returning punts, what gives? Make the cheap guy return punts/kicks. Besides this offense insn’t built to go 80, 90 yards for a score. Having a good return game would greatly help this offense.
by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
and the $80 million dollar man may be out for the season
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
calling him the $80 M dollar man is misleading
he was a somewhat highly paid veteran who was not covering that well at corner and now does not appear to be very important to the 49ers future.
On the other hand, Brown looked pretty good today and he is a 3rd year…
by zacksf on Nov 1, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Spencer looked fairly good today as well.
I want me some Buster
by gbears16 on Nov 1, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brown was "meh"
I didn’t see anything amazing from him (Spencer looks MUCH better).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
Don't worry about me Thurgood, I'll be fine. The robbery is what's important now.
by the guy on Nov 1, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just maybe...
Just maybe Michael Spurlock lacks the footspeed? I think we need somebody with reasonable footspeed and experience at the kick returner position. I don’t think our kick returns could have been any better than they would have been with Allen Rossum returning them.
We need another Dexter Carter, is what we need.
by JHill26 on Nov 1, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
People forget that Dexter had fumble issues.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever I hear that name the 1st word that pops in my mind is
{SITE DECORUM}
by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't forget.
Between him and Ricky Waters in the 90’s…its hard to forget the turnovers.
So they put Brandon Jones in to return the punt and he decided to field it inside the 5 yard line? C’mon man.
by McBain10 on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you are supposed to let those bounce
but it could have been worse…it could hae taken a funky bounce and been downed at the 1 or 2. So at least he caught it with breathing room. Besides, give the guy a break. That was afterall only his 2nd return. I think he will do well.
Sing did mention Battle though and said he had confidence in him which really worries me.
by Drew K on Nov 5, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He’ll learn. I know Battle lost it in the sun, but please don’t try to catch something you can’t even see…
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 5, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and you might be right about spurlock.
but i don’t know what the hell else we have him for.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's already scored a TD on a kick return
He’s got the footspeed
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Spurlock
isn’t good enough to make the team at WR, and isn’t as reliable as Michael Robinson in holding on to the ball and making the right decisions. He’s here as a reserve — period.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 2, 2009 5:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who told you he can't hold on to the ball?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 2, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Barrows on sacbee.com
Talks about how he has fumble issues. I’m sure you saw how lost he looked in the Taser this year right? I think he fumbled one snap, and bobbled the other snap in 2 tries.
by hudd07 on Nov 2, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he only had 2 tries
and taking a snap from center isn’t the same as catching a kick or a punt.
And if he has fumbling issues…..why is he on the team?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 3, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why is he on the team?
This.
Also, why isn’t Robinson or Battle running the taser?
by sfgfan on Nov 3, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Reminds me...
… of the XBOX360 version of Madden10. The 49ers’ “wildcat” formation only has runs. What’s up with that?
by sfgfan on Nov 3, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
I saw the formation when I first got it and was all excited about having Battle and Robinson play back there, only to find out that it’s nothing but an unconventional strong/weak I-form/split-set where it gives the RB options to either run or pitch the ball.
by sfgfan on Nov 3, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least you have the Wildcat
I’m still stuck on Madden 09 without it. :-(
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 3, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Up until..
… this season, I’ve been playing Madden on the Wii, and the shift to XBox360 has removed some of my favorite formations/plays. The 49ers playbook doesn’t have a I-form where both WRs are on the weak-side of the formation. That was one of my favorites.
by sfgfan on Nov 3, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not just use a different playbook?
I use the Packers on offense because I like their formations. Also, the default Niners playbook for ’09 is all singleback WR-heavy sets because of Martz. ;-)
Also, how is Madden on the Wii? I’ve never played it on Wii, only PS2 and X-Box (and the next gen stuff obviously).
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 3, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why I never use another playbook. For the past four to five years, the 49ers playbook has remained (virtually) unchanged on the Wii/PS2, so I guess it’s a matter of not wanting to pick up a new playbook (I pick plays subconsciously and have audibles set up that I change to). I guess I just don’t want to create new muscle memory.
As for the Madden on the Wii, I can only speak for up to Madden09. As long as you take it for what it’s worth and don’t expect the moon (like you could with the more powerful systems), I think Madden on the Wii is fun. I haven’t played this year’s version much more than a couple minutes at the local Best Buy (and I didn’t really like the way it looks, as they redid the player models).
by sfgfan on Nov 3, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
I think I remember seeing the new player models, they’re fairly cartoony right? Looked stupid.
Do you use the audibles that let you stay in the formation your in? For a long time I never used those, but now I hardly ever audible out of formation. It lets you have basically an unlimited amount of audibles and it’s hard for the opponent to know when you’ve changed your play.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 3, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have yet to play witht he audibles...
… in Madden10, as I’m still trying to figure out what plays I actually like in Madden10. It seems that the A.I. picks up on if you start to call a play too often in one game.
However, on the Wii version, I purposely had three audibles from the I-form and two from standard singleback (3WR/1TE/1RB). I love when the opponent has no idea if I just audibled to a new play or just audibled to reset the play.
by sfgfan on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah I see
But you know you can use like the right joystick (at least on PS2) to audible to a different play in the same formation, so it’s liek each formation has 3 plays you can audible to without changing your look.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember that...
… at all. That’s awesome, though.
by sfgfan on Nov 4, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't get who or what we are going to do.
Funny thing is now Nate might have a broken shoulder.
I remember someone else saying crabs should return, but another person said no because he could get hurt, but i guess it was ok to take a risk with our $80mil man.
what i’m trying to figure out. i think Robinson being back there is ok but i don’t think anyone really if shifty enough… jeez i miss sheets right now.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 3:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
67 mil his incentives were unreachable, he's set to make a lot next year and we should have traded him before the deadline and got an OL
"Optimist Prime"
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by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not trying to turn this into that kind of post.
i’m just trying to figure out why spurlock is still on the team and not what we should have done in the off-season.
i hear what your saying but i still don’t know why spurlock is on our team.
i love the hindsight fans
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just replying on a comment
There is no post control around here is there?
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To answer your question directly...
Spurlock is on the team to take up a roster spot while providing no discernible benefit.
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Nov 1, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Clearly people are overthinking this.
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Nov 1, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't get why no one has asked Sing in a Presser.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
There is a lot of questions I don't get why he isn't asked.
I would love to be in that press room. Why isn’t spurlock returning? Why is Bruce still playing and on the team? Why don’t we ever press receivers? Why is Jimmy Raye still calling plays? Why is every week the same words out of your mouth? “I am going to find out what this team is made of this week.” Well how about you find out what you are made of and the rest of your coaching staff and figure out how to win f’ing ball games because game management is TERRIBLE!!! I’m so sick of the retardedness and amateurism of bay area teams.
by jonesin25 on Nov 1, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's got dirty pictures of Scott McCloughan
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 1, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i agree
i dont know why he is still on our team, plus i saw brandon jones back there also, i mean damn when i saw the preseason he was lookin like a decent receiever yet coach sing n coach raye have not used brandon jones at all, what gives on that? nice free agent pick up just to sit on the bench, and come on its obvious that spread offense passin is the way to go now that alex smith is back there, he can move the ball as we saw last week and this week. also agree on nasty nate should have not been back there also, what gives man, this might come back to haunt the niners later down the stretch in the season.
by Nesto415 on Nov 1, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
well
did you notice how Wayne and Dallas Clark seemed to get a lot more catches in the 2nd half when clements was out, it messed up the whole rotation for coverage
by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 1, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good observation
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Jones has been injured
He’s only now getting back into game shape. Plus they signed him before they knew if Bruce was coming back and before Crabtree fell to them in the draft. I think he’ll get used a lot more next season, after Bruce leaves, as a 3rd WR behind Crabtree and Morgan.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
by urnext on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to worried about nate since brown had a decent game but spurlock should do something
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 6:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't compare Spurlcok to Harvin and Ginn
In light of their being #1 draft choices. But I also have no idea why he’s on the roster. And I’m happy with Robinson on KO returns and Clements (if healthy) on punt return. I’m even find with Jones returning punts if someone could remind him to not catch the ball inside the 5 yard line.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oh no comparison
Just seeing those players that make such an impact in the game, and then we just kind of act like the KR/PR is kind of irrelevant is upsetting to me.
Hell Harvin has a bunch of TD’s on returns. The vikings obviously feel like that is something worth addressing, the Niner’s on the other hand throw Walker/Robinson back there because they get good field position.
While we let Rossum go who is the only real home run hitter we’ve had.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it's an offseason priority
I don’t want to use a 1st round pick on a player for this role but a second round CB who is a great return man or middle round pick that could be a change of pace RB (like Sproles) who has also had a great college career returning kicks would be be welcome. For all the Favre hype, you could argue that they’d have two additional losses (SF and GB today) without Harvin’s KO returns. He immediately takes back momentum to say nothing of the pressure he places on the coverage units.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have been asking myself this question every week.
I am getting really sick of the extremely poor coaching week in and week out. You should keep this thread going and we also need to start an official thread on the calling for Jimmy Rayes head!!
by jonesin25 on Nov 1, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agree with what so many others are saying.
Jimmy Raye is 50 years behind. He is coaching the same kind of football he played at Michigan State in the 60s. Run up the middle on 1st down. If you get at least two yards consider it a success and do it again, then on 3rd down pass because you will probably be faced with 3rd and long. If you get stuffed on 1st down and have 2nd and 10 or longer, run a draw because you might fool the defense. Do this many many times, you have to be patient, because if you do it often enough it will work, I promise. Of course, it may take a few decades.
by CorneliusJ on Nov 1, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not really
We pass more than we run.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 1, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i updated the original post
now i am even more confused.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 1, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let Jones return kickoffs
and just go without a punt return guy. It’s safer.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 2, 2009 12:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agree with the second comment....lol, seriously
But Robinson is a good kick returner.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 2, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Robinson
is the ideal kickoff returner on this team because he is so reliable. He almost never fumbles and doesn’t make silly mental mistakes. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have himself as the upback. Michael’s great blocking is what used to spring Rossum. His double block vs. Arizona last season sprung Rossum for a TD on the opening kickoff. MRob is the ONLY back on the roster who we can feel confident will give us decent field position without a stupid mistake.
I like Jones as a punt returner but fielding a punt on his own 3-yard line wasn’t exactly brilliant.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 5, 2009 5:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Coffee missed a block that got Robinsin tackled much too soon on one KO return. ST is about the full unit not just the return guy.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 5, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why you'd throw a guy out there as a blocker on special teams
If you take him off the field on 3rd down because he’s not a great blocker… doesn’t quite make sense.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 5, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good question
Although I thought the worry with Coffee’s blocking was more about the fear he wouldn’t pick up the correct blitzer not ability. But I see why coaches don’t like rookies in key ST roles unless they are dynamic at returning the ball.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 6, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he wouldn’t pick up the correct blitzer
All special teams players are blitzers. I’m no expert on ST blocking, but it’s a far more chaotic situation than offense or defense, and I’d be truly surprised if people had “blocking assignments.” If they don’t have assignments, you have to decide who to block.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 6, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Jones as a punt returner but fielding a punt on his own 3-yard line wasn’t exactly brilliant.
Guys usually don’t do that too often. I’d be surprised if somebody didn’t tell him “OK, go stand on the 5 yard line and don’t step back.” before every punt.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Nov 5, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft Spiller from Clemson 2nd Round!!!
At least let Spurlock try to return something….he did give the Bucs franchise there first kick return to the house.
by MAN99LAW on Nov 3, 2009 4:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
C.J. Spiller is going to be a 1st rounder
He has improved his pass-blocking and he’s now much more than just a change of pace back.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably
I think he’d be a good pick if he did drop to the second though.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Per adam schefter on twitter
He stated that the 49ers released Michael Spurlock and signed CB Keith Smith to a one year deal!
by renke81 on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
great so after all this we end up with a sub-par CB… morons
by whitemike1644 on Nov 4, 2009 9:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Keith is much better than a sub-par
CB. He has plenty of experience and is a capable backup.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 5, 2009 5:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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