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Is Mike Singletary a "Bum"?

I for one was pretty impressed with the way the Niners played today. Obviously it's disappointing to not get the win, but I didn't expect the game to even be as close as it was. I was especially happy with the way the defense played, shutting down the Colts offense about as well as one could hope for. I think Mike Singletary and Greg Manusky deserve a lot of credit for that. But BIg Blue Shoe, the head writer for the SBNation Colts blog, apparently doesn't. Here's what he said about Singletary in his quick recap of the game:

One more thing: Mike Singletary is a bum. A total and complete bum of a coach. As Bob Lamey and Will Wolford noted during the Colts radio broadcast, the 49ers were doing their best New England Patriots impersonation by faking injuries in order to slow Indy's no-huddle offense. The radio announcers noted players were receiving signals from 49ers coaches to "go down" when the Colts tried to go hurry-up. It was disgusting. It was vomit-inducing.

It didn't work.

So, congrats Mike! Your team is 3-4. You've lost three in a row, and when the chips were down, you tried to cheat. Oh, and all those defensive changes you did this past week? Yeah, they didn't work either. Manning threw for 347 yards, completed 64% of his passes, and the Colts won. Utter and complete tool = Mike Singetary. 49ers fans deserve better than this dirty schmuck. I hope they don't think my disgust at Singletary is disgust for the 49ers. Nothing but respect for the 49ers as an organization, and I love the community at Niners Nation. But Singletary's coaching today was both vile and un-becoming an NFL coach.

The Colts are 7-0, sans attempts to cheat, and did so in a scrappy, hard fought game. Go Colts!

I was pretty shocked when i originally read this as I didn't think there was anything to the injuries when I watched the game other than that our players were getting banged up. I admittedly wasn't thinking about the injuries too much but it just doesn't seem like something Mike Singletary would do and there weren't too many injuries anyway. I'll be watching this closely when I re-watch the game but I wanted to know what you guys think.

Were the Niners cheating and trying to keep the Colts from running their hurry up? Or were the injuries just part of the game? As I said in the thread on Stampede Blue the Niners use defensive hand signals normally anyway so I have a hard time believing the Colts radio guys could seperate those from the "dirty signals". Beyond that is what BBS said about Singletary fair? I really don't think it is, given the lack of proof of the cheating.

I'm hoping someone can clear this up because these are very harsh words about a claim that I don't think there is a lot of proof for.

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Did the Niners fake injuries to disrupt the Colts hurry-up offense?
Yes
47 votes
No
91 votes
Not sure
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I wanna say no just because I don’t wanna believe the niners would do that but both times the injuries were cramps, which can be easily faked so I dont know.

I want me some Buster

by gbears16 on Nov 1, 2009 5:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Of course they were 'cheating.'

It’s part of the game to sometimes fake injuries like that to slow down the other team.

Colt fans make me sick. All of them, including the players, the Irsay’s and former HC Tony Dungy should kneel down and thank God for Lindy Infante and his 3-13 1997 Indianapolis Colts.

That season gave them the #1 pick in the 1998 draft, when Peyton Manning was available.

And the rest, as they say, is history.

The 49ers gave the Colts all they could handle today, a few questionable ‘injuries’ notwithstanding. That’s the story of the game.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 5:30 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Steriods

Everyone takes them. It happens all the time. It isn’t cheating.

Your shifty sports morality is frightening. Cheating is cheating, and anyone who does it is a bum. End of story.

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by BigBlueShoe on Nov 1, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know our defense spent valuable practice time learning the “fall down cramp” signal and left practice time short preparing for Reggie Wayne bubble screens.

What’s really disheartening is the Colts radio broadcast crew deciphered that signal in mere seconds limiting it’s use through the rest of game. Next time we’ll use a more clever signal. I guess Singletary grabbing his leg and falling over was too obvious.

BTW, so it’s OK Joseph Addai can fake a busted hand to sub out without allowing our defensive personnel to substitute. I guess you want to neglect that cheap hurry up play that resulted in a converted 3rd down and eventually led to the Colts TD. Under NFL rules the defense was allowed time to substitute and the Refs should have never allowed that snap to go off early.

Yep, you’re right, 49ers are a bunch of dirty cheaters and you picked us off.

by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahah yeah to hell with that hurry snap the ball before we can sub bs

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, especially Takeo Spikes who fell down with his cramps with his back to the Niners bench.

by Hoopers Judge on Nov 1, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t call faking injuries cheating thats called strategy. To try and slow down the hurry up offense last time I checked that wasn’t against the rules. So don’t hate

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You can't be serious, can you?

Look, cheating is BREAKING the rules.

What the 49ers did (as have a million other teams) is BEND the rules.

Big difference there.
As I stated below, type in ‘faking injuries to slow down no huddle’ on Google to see just how commonplace it is.

There’s no PROOF that they ‘faked’ those injuries but I’m the first to conceed that it happened. I was talking long distance to a friend of mine while we were watching the game. The second time it happened I told my friend exactly what was going on.

It’s a part of the game. Deal with it.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah for sure don’t start bashing our team for using thier brains.

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Ryan saw the Turf Monster

I remember him showing the replay with Spikes getting bit in the leg.

by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cheating vs Crying

Who’s crying? Is it the same Colts that cried when the Patriots ruoughed up their D-Backs and deleted their team from Superbowl contention? Oh and guess what, the following season there is a league change, no contact after 5 yards. Now look at you, you win and you’re still crying, it’s amazing you got the favorable calls because you’re at home and you want to call our hall o fame coach a bum. (HOF as in player) I’ll tell you this much, we won’t go crying to the league about calls given to home teams, although it has killed us. How about you do this, get some tissue and wipe away the tears. Make sure you buy it in bulk, the Colts have great winning seasons and not a lot of bowl appearances because they are soft. Soft as an ant pissin’ on cotton.

Go cry somewhere else loser!

"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco

by rlott#42 on Nov 1, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahah nice post very well written lol

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Get a life BigBlue

Or should I call you BigBlue Lite? First, I consider myself the #1 basher of the Niner franchise, you don’t even come close. Your moral high tone doesn’t play well and you are just mean spirited. Second, you don’t even let opposing bloggers come on your site to comment unless they join Stampede Blue; very weak! I had to track you down on Niners Nation (how distasteful) to make my point. My point being, if your team somehow makes it to the Superbowl (they won’t!) they will be crushed by the Purple Gang, end of subject. And by the way, the Niner fans on this site are some of the classiest in the NFL. Go Vikes!

by Chucks Nucks on Nov 2, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of whether it was a planned occurrence or not, the post is completely classless. Mainly, because there is no way anyone but the involved players know whether or not they had cramps. Obviously the Colts commentators are going to be biased in one direction (as were the fans in the stadium).

Congrats guy, your team won. Don’t act like the Colts are missionaries doing God’s work. This is football and teams have to do whatever they can to win. Injury timeouts are part of the game. If you want to petition the league to have sideline physicals required after anyone leaves the field, than have fun with that. Otherwise, be happy your team won and don’t bitch and moan because Mike Singletary soiled the purity of the Church of Lucas Oil.

As for his defensive scheme, I wouldn’t point to a bunch of Manning’s stats and say it didn’t work. The most important stat is 0 TD passes (first time in the past 11 games) and no rushing touchdowns, so its not like they were punching it in from the one. I’d say its a success for a team that gave up over 40 points to the Falcons

In conclusion, your team won! Why slander the opposing coach for what, at most, is a slight infraction of football etiquette. Plus, it was two plays. Anyways, have fun in Indiana

by Rdubya on Nov 1, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Type in "faking injuries to slow down no huddle"

on google.

You’ll see a million stories (including one of the first – Dre Bly of the Broncos against the Jets last season).

This stuff happens ALL the time.

Any broadcaster whining about this kind of thing need to enter the ‘real world’ . . . you know, the one without Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

It’s part of the game. Deal with it.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

haters

there everywhere. no matter what it is, someone will hate. coach sing did agood job of having the team ready but he has a bum for an OC. that’s the bum on the team to me. who expected the game to go the way it did. to hold manning without a td pass & the niners to be winning into the 4th. unless it’s proven, fcuk’em to the haters(the radio broadcast team).

go niners!!! airday allday

by calinig4life on Nov 1, 2009 5:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

Mike Singletary didn’t do a good job of getting the team ready . . . he did a GREAT job.

He took his team into three domes this season against three team with better talent (Arizona, Minnesota and Indianapolis).

They beat the Cards, lost on a last second miracle play in Mineesota and gave the Colts all they could handle today.

All three of those teams were playoff teams last season and all three have excellent home field advanatges in their domes

That’s pretty good coaching.

.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just don't say anything that contradicts the Colts being the best team ever

to BBS… He gets madly offended. Peyton Manning never does anything wrong, the game was only close because we cheated, and Peyton tore apart our D all game, and the 49ers D was not prepared and played terribly.

by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This Coach is a 'Bum'

Singletary? No.

Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball

by 10forTech on Nov 1, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

BBS isn't much of a head blogger

I could never see Fooch making ridiculous accusations or calling another teams player or coach a vomit-inducing complete tool and a dirty schmuck. Makes me glad to know we have someone like him reppin’ us Niner fans.

Here’s a news flash: Every team in the NFL fakes cramps/injuries. It happens all the time.

I mean who’s to say Singletary even told them to do it? How do you know Haralson didn’t just decide to do it himself? Oh! that’s right the COLTS RADIO ANNOUNCER saw Singletary giving the team signals, which of course were “dirty fake an injury” signals. Luckily the radio announcer is a professional hand signal decipherer on the weekends, so he knew Sing’s signals were dirty and not just regular defensive signals.

It’s fine to complain and be annoyed by it, but to call someone a bunch of harsh names based off something a homertastic radio announcer said is just plain unnecessary.

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 6:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I am glad we have someone with class heading our blog. Thanks Mr. Fooch.

by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I second that...

I’m also a Colts fan, so I also read Stampede Blue daily. BigBlueShoe has a habit of posting completely homer-centric post-game recaps, then the other writers on the site write well-thought, thought provoking posts about that week’s game.

by BSU_Alum07 on Nov 1, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Such a hater. He’s mad because we almost beat them. What a doucebag

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What ever happened

To the “good game” hand shake we all learned as kids?

by CorneliusJ on Nov 1, 2009 6:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The only hand signal I saw Singletary making

was the one indicating “strip the ball” late in the game when the Colts were killing the clock.

Why didn’t the Fox announcers make any comments about the 49ers faking injuries? Perhaps because they are impartial, unlike Indianapolis Colts broadcasters. Were the 49ers LBs faking leg cramps? Who knows, certainly not the Colts broadcasters or the bloggers at BBS.

Leg cramps are freakin’ painful, I know that much, and when players are on the field as much as the 49ers defense was, they tend to happen. Seeing as the cramps only happened twice, I can’t decide if they were “faked” or not, and nor can anyone else.

Wonder why the Colts bloggers didn’t mention how the refs failed to call offsides on the play that Crabtree fumbled, or how they didn’t give the 49ers time to substitute while the Colts substituted during their hurry-up offense?

by Andrew Davidson on Nov 1, 2009 6:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I know right.

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hey if you want to say thing ok but it isn't the team that shoudl be attacked in any form

also it isn’t even the majority of fans that even think you were cheating and most dont approve of what BBS is saying anyway so dont generalize us

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As you can see.

Some of our fans can be pretty reactive as well.

Thanks for sticking up for us over on your side.

by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yes i know and i know he probably didn't mean to much by it just wanted to

clarify. your welcome and good luck

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thats all i was making sure of with the other guy.

i talkied to him earlier so i figured. i mostly injoyed my self over here to although i did have two or three guys attack me for no apparent reason but besides that i had a good experience here

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this

those other Colts guys posting on here were cool. I for one don’t generalize all fans based off of one bad apple

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

:) thats good lol

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa man.

As said below, all of my comments are directed at one blogger (or two). I know you and a majority of the Colts fan base has been classy. Nothing against you.

by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

whoa what?? i said i understand that

and i saw that one latter after i made the comment to you no offense taken

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay good.

:) Thanks again for not being a sore winner.

by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahaha

Everyone back up. No need to be too careful. We’re all trying a little too hard at this point to not start a fight.

by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

your right tell your team to stop cheating

//as if he could like some think
//// hahaha thats better lol

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or

when Addai was walking to the sideline with a “hand injury” and the colts quickly ran a play to convert on 3rd down as soon as he walked off

by sanfranfanmdk on Nov 1, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just when I thought we had somewhat of a cross-blog bond...

BBS goes and throws it all out the window. I hope the other two AFC South blogs show a little bit more class.
I do thank you classy Colts fans for staying classy though (ANGELSFAITH).

by mountaindew77 on Nov 1, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Apology from long-time Colts fan

Don’t let one sample affect your opinion of Colts fans. I’m an “older” fan and don’t post much. Most Colts fans think your team put up a great fight. Congrats and I hope you make the playoffs.

arrrgh...

by noconviction on Nov 1, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Apologies from a Colts fan

BBS is making mountains out of mole-hills.

The 49ers played a great game. I really hope you guys can win the NFC-West.

by thedarktower19 on Nov 1, 2009 7:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no need to apologize

it’s not your duty to do so. It’d be like apologizing for the Colts winning.

Anyway, is your handle related to the Stephen King series the Dark Tower? If so, I’m currently reading Part V: Wolves of the Calla. Fantastic series of books (and totally irrelevant if I’m way off).

by Andrew Davidson on Nov 1, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It is indeed a Stephen King reference. I hope you enjoy the rest of the series.

Go Colts!

by thedarktower19 on Nov 1, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A bit random

But how would you compare Dark Tower to the rest of King’s books? I’ve read some of his stuff, but never any of the Dark Tower series.

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 1, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've only read up until about midway through part 5 so far

but what other King books have you read Brendan?

This one, and it’s cliche to describe it this way, is like King’s “Lord of the Rings” style story. There’s also a bunch of references to other Stephen King books scattered throughout and the whole story includes alternate worlds and small parallels to each person’s time and place.

I’m not a big book-reader, but this is one series I’ve been interested in since I began reading it about 6 years ago. Due to my lazy reading habits it has taken me far too long to get as far as I am.

If you do decide to start reading the series, the first one, “the Gunslinger” is a bit slow but stick with it, because the second three books are quite good. So far, I think “Wizard and the Glass” is the best one, but again, I’m only on part 5 (of 7). I’d say the books are less about scaring the reader and more about taking the reader on a journey with the ka-tet involved in the story.

by Andrew Davidson on Nov 2, 2009 5:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see

I’ve read Running Man, Christine, The Long Walk, Needful Things, and Blaze. So not too many but a few. I’ve read parts of a few other books and some of his short stories as well. I read most all of those in about a year but I’ve been more into Dean Koontz lately.

I’ve thought about reading the series before but it seems a lot different than his other stuff. It sounds like it might be worth giving it a try though.

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 2, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is fairly pointless, because I’m sure you’ve read it, but Dean Koontz Intensity, have you read it? [Site decorum]ing fantasic book.

I do recommend you check out the Dark Tower books. At least try the first three, because like I said, the first one is kinda slow and the second does a great job of setting up the main story.

by Andrew Davidson on Nov 2, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah don’t worry about it was a good game Maybe we will see each other in the playoffs. :)

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Easy to sit behind a computer screen and use words that strong.

I don’t know if they were really injuries. I can see why there’s suspicion, but I don’t see proof. Some radio announcers saw signals? Did we use the same signals later for a different situation? How would they even know that, since they’re supposed to be watching what’s going on on the field so they can describe it to their listeners? How do those radio announcers even know what our signals mean? How do they know Singletary was behind it? Say it was a few coaches and Singletary found out later and told them to stop, so you didn’t see it later in the game. Why not call the coaches making the signals bums? Why Singletary and only Singletary? He’s singling out one man and attacking him for something where we don’t know the full story.

And his justification is that the Colts fans in the seats and two announcers (just because they’re good guys and don’t lie doesn’t mean they can’t be mistaken) think the same thing all of a sudden that automatically amounts to cheating? Is he trying to imply that if a group of people believe something to be true, that automatically makes it true? That’s the sort of implication that, in situations more serious than sports, leads to people getting mistakenly harassed/persecuted/killed.

If you want to speculate, that’s fine. We all do that. But you don’t have to hurl accusations and call names based on things that aren’t proven.

To be honest, I assumed these comments came from a Stampede Blue member, not the head. I would expect something like this from an average community member. There’s always kneejerk reactions and every community has people that overreact. But I was surprised to read in the comments here that this was from the editor in chief, and to me that’s just shameful. Not only that, in his full recap he came out and repeated his name calling. There’s plenty of Colts fans on the blog that have managed to comment and speculate and maybe even accuse without being so vicious. I only wish their editor approached things the same way.

Show me proof better than “everyone thinks it therefore it happened” and then you can say all you want. File a complaint with the authorities. Go through all the legal means you want. If you have a case with legs, then it’ll get somewhere. If it doesn’t, then maybe it’s not as “obvious” as you think it is. Until then, this type of character assassination against one man is rash and unwarranted.

And of course, great game, Colts fans. We threw everything we could at you (and you have every right to SPECULATE that we threw more than the rules allowed), but you guys are a quality team and proved it. Much respect and I hope you guys go deep into the playoffs.

by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

well said
To be honest, I assumed these comments came from a Stampede Blue member, not the head. I would expect something like this from an average community member. There’s always kneejerk reactions and every community has people that overreact. But I was surprised to read in the comments here that this was from the editor in chief, and to me that’s just shameful.
I would be highly disappointed if Fooch acted in the same way.

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to bash Fooch by any means, but this site did come up with the Chicago Stoolies logo when the Bears got the Niners busted for tampering charges.

Small potatos maybe, but the heat of the moment can get the best of anyone. I’m not sure how happy Bears bloggers were with the Stoolies-theme. Granted the whole thing was a lot more light-hearted in nature.

by Andrew Davidson on Nov 1, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I didn't mention Fooch in my post

because I didn’t want this to be a comparative/competitive thing where I assert that Fooch is classier than every other SBNation football head blogger, and we by proxy are classier fans. We all have our own rules and do things different under different standards. I don’t know Fooch personally and don’t want to (and haven’t been here long enough to) make any judgements or speculate on what he would or wouldn’t do if the tables were turned, etc. As cool as I think Fooch is, this isn’t about him at all.

I just have my own idea of how someone at the top should act, and regardless of whether Fooch would or wouldn’t do the same, I think BigBlueShoe did not act in the way I would hope someone in his position would do.

by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I wasn’t trying to imply anything about Fooch specifically, I was just using him as an example since he is our fearless leader.

I think this sums it up

I just have my own idea of how someone at the top should act, and regardless of whether Fooch would or wouldn’t do the same, I think BigBlueShoe did not act in the way I would hope someone in his position would do.

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Stoolies

Finally got a chance to watch the game and was waiting to check the site until after I watched. I did put together the Stoolies logo and had a thread of anger at the Colts. It was definitely a bit immature on my part and eventually I ended up closing down the thread because it was getting out of hand and it was time to move on.

I’ve pondered posting over at Stampede Blue but I really don’t want to get into it with them. I’ll hold my personal feelings about what BBS had to say about Coach Singletary in at this point because it’ll just become a pissing contest between the two sites…or at least some members of the site.

All I’ll say is I’m glad the game is over and hopefully BBS can become less of a sore winner.

by Fooch on Nov 1, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

you're the man Fooch

the Bears totally deserved that whole Stoolies thing lol. What’s your opinion on the injuries? Do you think the players faked them?

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dont want to argue about it

just saying i think it is a unecessary comment but. mabye it wasn’t cheating. they could have had a cramp and jsut exagerated it though. which is not right but not necessarally cheating

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

injuries

At first I didn’t think anything, but once the fans started booing it got me thinking. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was something going on there. But to call Singletary a bum and classless and all this for something that also is pretty hard to prove is a bit over the top. I’m writing up a recap and will make a brief mention of it.

by Fooch on Nov 1, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah for sure very low class. Just hating because we gave them a run for thier money

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We got your back Fooch

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Stoolies

I didn’t bring up to say you weren’t a great person behind this blog, just to illustrate that sometimes even the good guys get caught up in emotions.

While I’m furious at what was said, I’m talking it with a grain of salt, because no one really knows if the guys were faking leg cramps, the entire two times it happened.

by Andrew Davidson on Nov 2, 2009 5:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We all know

that he would not under any circumstance act lke the BIG BLUE MOUTH!!!

by CorneliusJ on Nov 1, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+100000

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just read that entire colts post and comments.......

and think it is extremely distasteful for two or three guys on that blog to be bashing our team because we actually refused to wilt under the stare of Peyton Manning (who i think IS the best qb in the game). from reading some comments over at Stampede Blue, i get the sense that even some of the colts fans are offended by what their supposed “leader” said. very classless and moot at this point.
Congrats Colts fans, you guys won a close one, be happy about the W and good luck the rest of the year

by Camraman926 on Nov 1, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I don't understand what

Manning has to do with this? Or the Colts as a team.

If you take it for what it is, it is cheating. Regardless of whether or not it goes on in the game, that doesn’t make it right.

by furrycolt on Nov 1, 2009 8:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Terrible response.

But i guess it’s only cheating when your team is at the receiving end, huh?

by furrycolt on Nov 1, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh you mean like when

Joseph Addai faked a busted hand to sub out without allowing our defensive personnel to substitute? Yeah guess it’s only cheating when you’re on the receiving end….

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not cheating furrycolt

for the simple reason that it cannot be proven.

It’s not like a pitcher being accused of throwing spitballs and the ump finds a file or a gob of valeline on the pitcher.

It can’t be proven because nobody can say for sure if the guy is injured or not.

The Patriots used to do this all the time against you guys.
My only problem is that I’d want my players on defense to be smart enough to do it WITHOUT being told to by the coaching staff!

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So you advocate cheating?

You’re ok with your players cheating, as long as nobody finds out?

by furrycolt on Nov 1, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to argue on behalf of him

but he did say he didn’t think it was cheating, so no, I don’t think he’d be okay with his players cheating as long as nobody finds out.

by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We could say the samething about you guys not letting our d sub in players with the hurry up offense bs. Its called strategy by the way and using your cabeza

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hell yeah using your cabeza i like that

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta mix up lol

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's certainly a difference between "cheap" and "cheating".

I personally think that in basketball when teams are up by 3 with the shot clock off and they intentionally foul because then the other team can only get 2 points is an incredibly cheap tactic, but it’s not cheating.

I suppose the issue here (besides whether or not the players were even faking) is whether the tactic was used to spare the 49ers timeouts. But you could say the same thing about asking the officials for a measurement when there’s less than a yard. Essentially that’s a free timeout as well.

by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The hurry up offense

isn’t cheating.

Faking an injury to slow down the hurry up is! If you wanted to slow it down legitimately, call a TO. The 9ers were avoiding doing that, they wanted to save their TO’s.

by furrycolt on Nov 2, 2009 6:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Like was said above your comment I would call this tactic cheap but not cheating. Unless I am mistaken I do not think there is a rule that a player cannot fake an injury. There may be rules related to this like if the player goes down and the training staff comes out then he has to go off for a play but like I said I am not sure if faking an injury is in the rule book or not. Also, it is impossible to prove whether they were faking our not. It is all just speculation.

I want me some Buster

by gbears16 on Nov 2, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Again furrycolt

You seem not to understand.
Can you prove those guys didn’t have leg cramps?

Uhhh, NO!

Since you can’t prove they weren’t injured, how can it be cheating?
Answer? It can’t.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

THIS!
Can you prove those guys didn’t have leg cramps?

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 1, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He said "might"

That falls under speculation. We can all speculate.

He also didn’t call our coach a bum before investigating further.

by jveezy on Nov 2, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

 To war with blue stampede!!!!! jk LOL

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah just messing around lol

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 1, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i know i was just saying to be carfull you know :)

cause if you say the wrong thing you coulld bet people against you that prior were on your side in this. there are many on your side

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!

by ANGELSFAITH on Nov 1, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Manning has nothing to do with it. Neither does your team.

Your head blogger saw fit to accuse our head coach of cheating and called him some names. Some guys on here reacted and thought it would be fitting to hurl some accusations of cheating in the other direction, hopefully (can’t make any guarantees) without calling Jim Caldwell and the Colts coaching staff “bums” in the process.

Just like in the other situation, all of us at home saw things and we’ve made judgments and jumped to conclusions. Just like in the other situation, we can speculate and probably can’t prove anything.

by jveezy on Nov 1, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How about that Patrick Willis!

Just trying to get things back on track.
A player may have faked a leg cramp? I am shocked! shocked I say!

by zacksf on Nov 1, 2009 9:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good lord...

I am sure that no Colt player has never faked an injury to take a blow, let another player recover from a hit, or to slow down a game. In a related note, all of the Colts double knot their shoes, part their hair from left to right and help old ladies across the street.

It’s freakin’ football. I laughed when Haralson and Spikes went down – it was a good tactic in a good game. It isn’t cheating – there is no rule against it and never will be because it can’t be proven. Furthermore, the Colts don’t need the hurry up to win – they use it as a tactic to catch the other team off guard. Football is a game of chess – both teams play back and forth.

Calling Singletary anything other than smart for this strategy is simply sour grapes. Actually, I would be suprised if other teams don’t try the same thing to slow them down…

"Granted, this is not a great situation, but when all you have is lemons, you add some vodka to dull the pain..."

by Mcamp49 on Nov 1, 2009 9:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Called out

And for those overly concerned about this, BBS has been called out a bit on his site for his comments. Please don’t go over there just to complain about what he said unless you can make an intelligent, cogent point. If you just want to yell at him or call him stupid or whatever, don’t go over there and comment.

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2009/11/1/1110395/recap-week-eight-colts-18-49ers-14#comments

by Fooch on Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Truly the heart of the matter

Deep down he has Bill Belichick issues and today’s game spurred on an episode.

by bignerd on Nov 1, 2009 9:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it really justs shouts IGNORANCE

It’s like a basketball announcer calling out the other team’s coach a bum, if his point guard takes a flop to get a charge call….
these things happen all the time in sports..its within the rules and really is a part of the strategy, like it or not.
For the winning team to say this really is bad sportsmanship—but what comes around goes around..

by 11allstar on Nov 1, 2009 11:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Per Gary Plummer

Haralson went down almost certainly to slow down the Colt’s offense…and it happens all the time in the NFL.

I love listening to Plummer’s analysis during the games.

by FanBelge on Nov 2, 2009 2:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs


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