Mike Singletary Approval Rating, Week 10
by Fooch on Nov 17, 2009 8:15 AM PST
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The 49ers pick up practice again today after having the last few days off. It's Tuesday though, which means it's time for the our weekly Mike Singletary Approval Rating. Last week saw Coach Singletary drop from 90% to 80%, although that remained 7% higher than the ESPN rating. This week, the ESPN voters have shown a bit more support for Singletary as he currently sits at 81%.
The win over Chicago was much needed and will hopefully get the 49ers back on the track. Of course, as with many ugly wins, it still left a bit of a sour taste in the mouths of 49ers fans. Many folks last week were teetering after four straight wins losses. That leaves me wondering if a hideous looking win over the Bears was sufficient to bring back some folks from the brink. I'd imagine the approval rating would go up, as it does with any win, but it will be interesting to see just how far it improves.
In light of Sunday night's controversial Bill Belichick call on fourth down, it had me pondering the 49ers own late game 4th down call. The 49ers were sitting at 4th and 6 on the Bears 34, up 4 points with just under 3 minutes remaining in the game. Joe Nedney had missed an earlier field goal and Mike Singletary elected to punt the ball. Andy Lee kicked it into the end zone, resulting in a net of 14 yards. Not exactly a winning situation.
At the same time, I personally understand that kind of decision. Even if Nedney had hit the 39-yarder in the first quarter, a 51-yarder in Candlestick winds would have been pretty tough for any kicker. And Nedney is solid but in that situation, with a Pro Bowl punter, I'm guessing you're just hoping to pin them down, rather than set them up in excellent field position.
Considering that, and the generally less than courageous play-calling we see throughout the NFL, how aggressive do you want your coach to be? There was of course that infamous play-call back in 2006 where Mike Nolan elected not to go for it on 4th and 1 at the Rams 7 yard line. The 49ers kicked a field goal to go up 17-13 with 4 minutes to go. The Rams then proceeded to drive 80 yards for a game-winning touchdown with 29 seconds left.
It seems to me like generally Mike Singletary has shown greater aggression in such situations. I'd like to think that in the same situation as Nolan, Singletary might have gone for it. Then again, maybe he wouldn't have since it was late in the game and he'd rather require them drive the distance for a touchdown. Either way, I'm curious what folks think about aggressiveness in a coach, and particularly how they view it in Coach Singletary.
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I like an agressive coach
I’d rather have one that plays balls to wall and loses than one that tries to minimize the defeat. I do think this team is one that plays better when we’re going lights out (both defensively and offensively).
by smileyman on Nov 17, 2009 8:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I like how the defense was prepared against Chicago.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 17, 2009 8:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
How did you feel about the offense?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I choose to ignore the offense……………..
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 17, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The offense chose to ignore themselves also
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Nov 17, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Approve, but slowly waning
the shine is starting to wear off a little. I guess I feel like he’s putting lipstick on a pig with the offense. Call them out when they play just OK…I don’t want to hear they did good and that you have hardly a bad thing to say about them. I don’t want you to dog them, but point out the weaknesses and stop being ALL positive.
by Tre9er on Nov 17, 2009 8:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fooch, can we get a Jimmy Raye approval rating?
and maybe a Manusky rating?
by Tre9er on Nov 17, 2009 8:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiosity
did I sleep through a 4 game win streak somewhere?
Many folks last week were teetering after four straight wins.
Typo aside, I do agree with that punt. That’s a tough field goal and that extra 14 yards (as little as it may be) might have prevent another shot or two at the endzone if the Bears had a little more time once they got there. Also, I think more often than not, that ball gets downed inside the 10. Can’t put that on the coach.
As for what I would want Sing to do on a 4th and 1 at the 4. That’s tough. In ‘06, I’d say go for it behind Larry Allen and Jonas Jennings. But with the O-Line we have now (and the defense for that matter), I think I might say get the 3 points and force them to score a touchdown.
by Sebaz49 on Nov 17, 2009 8:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Gore and Morgan
Got played on their spots. Both should have been 1st downs.
by goatfather on Nov 17, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't get this
Coach Sing’s approval rating is actually lower after we win? Doesn’t make any sense to me.
by smileyman on Nov 17, 2009 9:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
ugly game
lots of penalties and we didnt put them away
by Tre9er on Nov 17, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We still won
Would his approval rating be higher if it was a high scoring game and we lost?
by smileyman on Nov 17, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what seem people want it seems
I’ll take the wins. It’s not like we’re dealing with a SB team where we get to truly split hairs over the beauty of a win.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 17, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the lack of progress Smileyman. When the team is regressing it's hard to be on board. We should be getting better, not more sloppy.
by hudd07 on Nov 17, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But what people don't seem to realize
is that there has been progress. We hardly ever go three and out anymore. Our 3rd down conversion rate against Chicago was 47%, the highest it’s been all year (we’ve been averaging 30%). We have some great long drives that seem to fizzle out (and that part I blame on Raye not Sing).
Alex Smith’s completion percentage was 69% (also the highest it’s ever been).
Our penalties were bad, but not horrid (77 yards in penalties).
by smileyman on Nov 17, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"hardly ever go 3 and out"
is a stretch though! we’re getting better but we’re still one of the bottom half teams on 3rd down. Interestingly enough, we are not good on 3rd down defense either.
by Tre9er on Nov 17, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The rankings are for the season
We’ve been averaging 30% on 3rd down (one game we were at 0% for third down conversions). 47% is the best that we’ve done all year long.
by smileyman on Nov 17, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
key penalties
drive stallers (offense) and extenders (defense)
by Tre9er on Nov 17, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is true
Although scoring is down because the offense has been worse at sustaining drives they have improved in moving the ball with each drive.
by bignerd on Nov 17, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s too bad there isn’t some mysterious third option.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
and voted yes. i’m just explaining the psychology, if you will
by Tre9er on Nov 17, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
higher now
It’s at 87% right now. Last week it was 81%.
by Fooch on Nov 17, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was 91% last week?
Guess I was misrembering.
by smileyman on Nov 17, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The statistics say...
…it always makes sense to go for it on fourth down, even in your own territory. That said, the rule of thumb for me would be that you go for it any time you’re inside the opponent’s fifty, even if that dividing line is arbitrary.
by Bigmouth on Nov 17, 2009 10:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need to see him in apropriate size
He’s still learning, He has the right heart, where does he stand in comparison to the history of coaches and their progress levels? There may be too many variables to decide. We are headed in the right direction and we will make the playoffs even if we dont win the division. Wait and see….
by dalien82 on Nov 17, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Some context
Walsh was 2-14 in ’79 (his first full year). In 1980 he was 6-10. In 1981 the Niners won the Super Bowl.
At this point Coach Sing is 9-9 in his coaching career (last year plus this year). I think that’s a pretty decent record for a 1st year coach with a new OC and taking over a team that was 5-11 in 2007, and 2-5 before he took over.
by smileyman on Nov 17, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Walsh inheritted a horrible team (like the 2007 Falcons or something).
They finished with the same record the year before, but it was obvious that the team was much improved (they didn’t lose that badly with him).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Singletary didn't inherit a great team
The team was in dissaray and the offense had been falling apart for years, so it may take years to build.
"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.
by rlott#42 on Nov 17, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
i like coach sing. i think he’s done a job coaching. my only knock on sing is the offense, which i hope he & the gm go full throttle in fixing the line & figuring out how to run the offense. i take that back, i have to knocks on him. my second knock is on the second half adjustment. i’m not sure if it’s on him or raye but either way it’s still on sing since he’s the head coach. it could be me but i’ve notice that the offense is moving the ball pretty good & the protection is holding up for the most part. then in the second half the pocket is collapsing faster. the line is barely holding & they’re getting to the qb better, the wrs’ aren’t getting open as much. then the offense looks like the browns offense last night. unable to move the football & putting hardly or no points on the board. so basically my 2 knocks are on the offensive side of the ball. as far as everything else, love the D, the special teams is the same. the tackling is good, the returners suck. i also like how sing use the players that best help whether young & inexperienced or an ol vet. he just wants the winners. he’s better that nolan or erickson, he has to do something more with the offense until i put him above mooch. our team is better than our record. the players are the ones who choke game away(vikings, colts, titans) not the coach. i also think jed & sign himself put the pressure on by talking playoffs when it should’ve been brung up til the players had earn the right for the organization. this is just my opinion though
go niners!!! airday allday
by calinig4life on Nov 17, 2009 11:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
o-line protection
maybe they are tired in the second half or the other team made adjustments
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Nov 17, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No question
Voting yes here is easy since Sing has yet to cost the team a win by doing something like pull a Belichick/Switzer. Do that and I’ll vote no.
I agree with his going for the 4th & inches and that it was a sneak. That our O-line couldn’t move the Bears for that much should remind people why Sing and Raye are cautious with this offense.
I also agree with punting at the end. Our QB got rushed on 3rd down, why would 4th down be more succesful, especially after the poor way they had moved the ball in the second half? What’s bothersome was Lee, who is deserving of being the NFC Pro-Bowler, punting into the end zone against both Chicago and Minnesota when the chance was there to pin the opponent inside the 20, if not 10 yard line. It win the Vikings game and makes the Bears win less stressful. Coaches can only do so much; players make the plays.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 17, 2009 11:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Funny...
Blaming Lee for the MIN game when it was Singletary’s conservative nature that cost them that one.
Now I know we see things differently. It’s the how that really sets us apart.
Like say, reality.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Nov 17, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you could finally admit...
You don’t see things in reality. I didn’t hold it against you. But I do see you still enjoy stalking me. Perhaps I should be flattered but I really have no use for bitter little old trolls. Engage in good debate or continue to knocked down.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 17, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See? Here you go..
With your alternate “reality” again. I guess Fooch better file a retraining order on me, since I post on his Blog. Same goes for GeoMak, since I bust on him from time to time. Same goes for Fearless Frog, since I created a Fanpost for him.
It’s only stalking when you avoid the person addressing you, so I see how you feel that way. I just find most of the pablum you post pretty disingenuous in assumptions, ridiculou in perception, and flat out left field denial of what the real situations that have occured. Of course you think I’m bitter. Everything you post is sugary sweet.
See you soon Sunshine. =)
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Nov 17, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the laugh
I really did LOL at that post. It’s too bad that for every one of your sensible posts there has to be about four antagonistic ones that make no sense. 20% success rate is quite poor wouldn’t you say?
It’s only stalking when you avoid the person addressing you
Again, funny. The rest? I pity you. Small man, small mind.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 17, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:doubletake:..
Lessee here….
Yep, the poster’s name is SpurredOn. For a minute there I thought it was GeoMak.
Oh, BTW, another Singletary loss that is pinned squarely on his shoulders: the Nolanesque ATL game where he let a scrub get into his head, after the team coming out flat and unprepared.
Who to blame for that one? I’ll go with Brian Jennings using “SpurredOn Ass” logic.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Nov 17, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's antagonistic off-topic post #3
We’re due for at least one more before you snap back and perhaps have a sensible one. Waiting little drummer, waiting…
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 17, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Cost the team a win..."
I have two replies to your sentence to the contrary.
But it’s nice to see how you avoid that once more.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Nov 18, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's #4! Winner
And such a tool. My post didn’t say Lee cost the team a win. But you know that. You prefer to troll along, drawing people into disingenuous debates. Pathetic that you get off on that but, to each their own. It’s just not my style and thus, you’re not my type of poster or person. Better to again ignore and leave you all alone.
I’ll rejoin the fans who enjoy having above-board conversations about football. And can do so without being bitter and antagonistic, whether or not we agree with each other. Try it some time. There are some great fans in NN and good debates to be had about the ’09 Niners.
I’m sure you’ll keep stalking, obsessing over my every post, overreacting to something out of context. Just keep both hands on the keyboard. Let’s see how long you can go…
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 18, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok..
I see that once you get a dose of what the reality is of the situation of what happened on the field, you’d rather surmise and speculate over things that once again you are very wrong of.
I put up two points Bubba. Now I got you being pissy and defensive because I’m talking football here.
You are way too easy to fluster because you’re that transparent.
BTW, I think I’ve been here longer than you have. So you lose once again here.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Nov 18, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just under two hours
Too easy. You just can’t stay away. A born masochist. At least you can be funny with your projecting, though after a while a bit to predictable and thus boring.
I do take some pleasure in getting under your skin in a debate you started. You’re not even a good bully. You really suck at this, when someone takes you on. At your age I’d expect better. And more maturity, so you fail on both counts.
Again, fun smacking you down. I’m back to football. Yet why do I think you’ll be stalking again, on some other post, trolling in the weeds? I gurantee I won’t reply to one of your posts. Bet you can’t do the same. You like to start stuff but can’t finish. Small man. Good luck, drummer.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 18, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lemme ask you a question..
How many posts have you made in the past 12 days, and how many did I respond to them?
I’ll wait for your answer. Like I’ve been regarding Singletary.
Bwah!
PS. Good to see I can bring you down to a level you think you’re above. I win all the way around on this.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Nov 18, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I vote...
Meh. Take Manusky away and Singletary is in the weeds.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Nov 17, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Meh should be an option, I increasingly think
"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...
by LondonNiner on Nov 17, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
4 and 6 at the 34
is not a good situation anyway you slice it.
What’s interesting is that perhaps at 3 and 6 from the 34 is where the decision has to be made. In the same way Belichek did not plan for 4th down on 3rd, Sing could have done the same.
They passed on 3rd and 6 – but failure puts you in a bad stop, and stops the clock on an incomplete. Maybe the best choice is to run the ball twice – (assuming you don’t lose yards on 3rd and 6). Just treat it like 2nd down, you would at least burn the Bears last TO.
I just realized there is a HUGE difference between 4th and 6 and 4th and 5 here. On 4th and 5 you can line up and hard count, even take the delay of game. But an offsides doesn’t get you a first on 4th and 6.
It’s hard to say if it was a good call without some idea of how hard it is to get the punt downed inside the 5.
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by zenbitz on Nov 17, 2009 12:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree zenbitz
Sing should have planned for it. It’s 4 down territory there, he should not have punted it. Even a GREAT kick and it only nets you what 25 yards with no return? Why not try to win it. I was all for Belichik’s call on 4th and 2.
Sing is too conservative and by the book for me. He want’s winners, well he needs to play for the win, not to ensure we won’t lose. Too many times our defense has given up the lead late, we need to win it by RUNNING the ball like he said. He wants to run out the clock, but throwing on 3rd down in Bears territory with a couple minutes left, AT HOME, sure doesn’t seem like he is trying to win the game on his own.
by hudd07 on Nov 17, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting point
that I hadn’t thought of.
run on 3rd down, run on 4th down. Eat enough clock that even if you give the ball up on the 30 they’ve got much less time to drive and you’re only talking 10 yards of field position. Heck, might have even tried the FG if they had been closer to the 30…
by Tre9er on Nov 17, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad strategy
But can you imagine the complaints had Raye run on third down? All the complaints of too conservative and not trusting the QB. It’s what they did on offense at the end of the Minnesota game and that got tons of people upset.
I happen to agree with you that it would’ve have been a good strategy but I also am glad they trusted the QB. The only way to see what Smith can do under pressure is to put the game in his hands in certain situations. He actually made a smart play and gained yardage, though obviously not enough.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 17, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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