49ers QB - 2010
by twolfe2 on Nov 19, 2009 9:56 AM PST
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PrintI know that the season is not over yet, and Alex Smith can turn into the ‘quarter-back of the future’ we all hoped that he would be able to be when he was drafted 10 years ago. (Okay it really wasn’t ten years ago, but the past couple years have been painful and I aged quickly.) I wanted to look at 5 quarterbacks that will be free agents next year, or that would be easy to trade for.
David Carr - Carr was drafted #1 overall by the Texans in 2002. He played okay with the Texans, but was released in 2006 and signed with the Panthers. After 1 year with the Panthers Carr signed with the Giants, and has been on back-up QB status for 2 years. One can argue that when Carr signed with the Texans the team was so new that no rookie QB can succeed with a rookie team. Since being back-up with the Giants he has seen action in 7 games, throwing 3 touchdowns, no INT, and about 300 yards. While not that impressive, I am sure that in some of those 7 games his duty was just to run out the clock. Carr will be a free agent next year.
Tarvaris Jackson – Jackson was picked 64th overall in the 2006 draft. He was Brad Childress’ ‘hand-picked’ QB. Jackson has seen limited success playing in 27 games, starting 19. He has thrown 20 TDs, 18INTs for 3,442 yards. In 2008 he guaranteed the Vikings a play-off spot by beating the Giants the last week of the season. (I know that he didn’t play the whole year, but if it weren’t for that game the Vikings wouldn’t have been in the play-offs). However the Vikings lost in the first round of the play-offs to the Eagles. Jackson would be a free agent next year.
Derek Anderson – Anderson was picked 213th overall in 2005. One can say that the only reason he ever saw the field was because of Brady Quinn’s extensive hold out. Well Anderson made the most out of it taking the Browns 1 game away from the play-offs, but failed to make it. That season alone he throw 29 TDs, 19 INTs, for 3787 yards. And must we not forget… he was playing for the Browns. Last year and this year he hasn’t been great… but then again it is the Browns. How would he do if he had a decent O-Line, and play-makers?? We would have to trade for Anderson.
Chad Pennington – Pennington was picked 18th overall in 2000, and has twice won the NFL’s ‘Comeback Player of the Year’ award. Pennington’s career has been filled with injuries, but has still managed 102 TDs vs 62 INTs. I see a lot of comparisons between Pennington and Hill though, being more ‘game managers’ than ‘play makers.’ However Pennington was able to take a 1-15 Dolphins to the play-offs. He is 33 though, and in the football world that is getting old. Pennington will be a free agent next year.
Michael Vick – Vick was picked #1 overall by the Falcons. Vick has been to 3 pro-bowls, and has led the Falcons to the play-offs. He has 71 TDs, 51 INTs and 21 rushing touchdowns. He has set numerous NFL QB rushing records, but some people think that is his biggest fault, and that he really isn’t the best passer. Obviously signing Vick would bring a lot of baggage to the team, but could you imagine Vick, Gore, Davis, and Crabtree on the same team??? Getting Vick would depend on if the Eagles decide to keep him, but as of right now I don’t think they will.
Well that sums up the 5 QB’s that I wanted to talk about. Let me know your feelings below. I have attached a poll.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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Yeah possibly if Alex doesn’t pan out
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 19, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Not Dyslexia!
I hope it works. Use the site listed below to view a very interesting article on Nate Davis’ learning disability, which evidently is not Dyslexia.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=4047057
Just wait...
when Davis continues to ride the bench. Now it will be Singletary who stole his QB career, like Nolan did M-Rob.
Well, we're waiting....
Really? LOL
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 19, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
About Davis...
The thing I don’t like about him is his learning disability. He understands things very slowly. How would he run a no-huddle offense with the clock ticking in a key situation? And on top of that, he’s young…Ugh. The last thing the organization wants to do is waste time trying to groom another QB (maybe if they decide to groom Davis, he’ll be under the same OC for more than a year). I think we just need to believe in Smith right now and see what happens. The GB game will be a good measuring stick as to how well he can play. Hopefully we see some Jason Hill!!
Jason Hill supporter 'til the end
To the best of my knowledge, we don’t really know the nature of his disability. Learning disabilities function in a lot of different ways, and there’s no real reason to assume that his would have any effect on his ability to function on the field.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 19, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
disability
I was under the impression it’s dyslexia. Linked below to some more info on it.
If he has to read the little thing on his arm to figure out a play, I’d imagine they could adjust it so he could better understand it on the run (using symbols that work for him and that sort of thing)
by David Fucillo on Nov 19, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, I guess I just hadn’t seen the news, then.
Dyslexia should be no big deal.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 19, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
disability
Do you know how dyslexia works?
This is just a quick thing from Google health.
by David Fucillo on Nov 19, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, it’s actually just dyslexia? I thought it still wasn’t disclosed.
Then again, I haven’t been sitting on the edge of my seat trying to keep track of every Nate Davis learning disability development. The whole thing really doesn’t concern me, so I haven’t paid it much attention.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 19, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't Frank Gore dyslexic as well?
I seem to recall reading somewhere that he was. I know RB is not the same position as QB, but Frank seems to be handling it pretty well.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
http://www.dyslexia-adults.com/a54.html
here’s an article from Frank’s rookie year talking a little bit about his dyslexia. So what do you think Drew? Is Frank a dumb idiot too? How do you feel having a dyslexic RB as the starter for the 49ers?
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
You are way off base
I have never once bridged dyslexia with stupidity. Frank Gore is a very intelligent man and graduated the University of Miami with a 4-year degree. Frank Gore can formulate a functional sentence. Dyslexia should not be mistaken with stupidity. My favorite teacher in high school had dyslexia as well but was a very intellgent man. So when you as such an unthought out question like: How do I feel having a dyslexic RB as the starter for the 49ers? I feel completely fine with it because he is intellegent.
There is a very fine line you’re walking when calling me out on something I have never said. Be my guest to go back through every post in 2009 to search for what you are claiming I said. Not anywhere have I cursed Nate Davis for having Dyslexia. Get your facts straight before calling people out. Otherwise you are just firing off at the mouth for the sake of doing so. I have said it before and I will say it again, Nate Davis is not intelligent which has nothing to do with his dyslexia.
See my posts below.
Ok
So what are you basing your “lack of intelligence” evaluation on?
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 23, 2009 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
are you not realizing that he was a GOOD QB in college?
no offense but this is the same mentality that kept black people from being QB’s, you can’t just dismiss his talent because you think he won’t be able to do what a “normal” person can do. like i stated in another thread. terry bradshaw called his own plays and had the same condition.
and i really don’t want to hear that he was in a QB friendly system because the two QB ball state has been using this year suck ass. so since nate left ball state is not the same team it was.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 19, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
His learning disability has nothing to do with his
ability to make quick decisions on the field. It has to do with reading vs. images. He is dyslexic, not “retarded”. He has outstanding football instincts.
Kezarvet
I agree
That being dyslexic isn’t going to mess up his football instincts. Plus the coaches have put the play book into pictures for him to learn better.
My question is do you think it is a problem that he doesn’t throw the ball with the laces?? I was never a QB, but I have thrown a football before, but it that a problem?
He has a hard time reading words its really not that complicated. Given some pictures and he’ll be fine
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 20, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
hell...
i think i’m dyslexics because i play madden and i only know playbooks by pictures.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 20, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I actually do have mild dyslexia...
I couldn’t read until 4th grade. Nonetheless, I scored a 720 on the English section when I took the SAT. No extra time, no special considerations. There was no stinkin’ ADA then. Being unable to learn to read can set you up for being dumb, I suppose. This would be because it tends to restrict the information you can take in during your formative years, when your brain is still developing. It needn’t always have that outcome, though. Another athlete whose dyslexia kept him illiterate into adulthood was Karl Mecklenburg. All the same, I can’t remember him saying anything on camera that came off half so ignorant as most of the things that came out of the mouth of the previous President.
Hey!
Politcal comments on a football blog, always necessary.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 23, 2009 1:05 AM PST up reply actions
So can Jim Druckenmiller and Jamarcus Russell can throw 85! Lets make them the starting QB tomorrow.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 22, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I voted for David Carr
He’s from my hometown (Bakersfield) and played on my favorite college team (Fresno State). I don’t beleive he would be a downgrade from what we already have. If anything I would just love to see a local boy wearing the red and gold, but for some reason I get the feeling he will end up in Oakland doomed to endure the dysfunction of that organization.
I’d really like to see Carr’s career turn around. I think he was really on the right track before getting the absolute snot beat out of his confidence and instincts. If his head ever recovers from those years in Houston, I think he could be one of those late-career guys.
I wouldn’t count on him, though.
I voted for Smith because IF Smith is the QB next year it means that he really is good. IF any of these other guys are the QB next year, we’re still in the same boat of just hoping that they will be good.
Though I like Pennington’s body of work. His actual body is kind of a mess, though.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 19, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Pennington is not a bad choice
if Smith doesn’t pan out I wouldn’t be opposed to getting Pennington for a 2 year deal while we groom someone else to take over.
Pretty basic logic.
If he’s anything less, he won’t be the starter, and probably not on the team at all.
Yeah. That’s kind of the entire point of using the word IF.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Well, the counterargument ...
… is that he could be pretty mediocre and still be our best option. Nate may not deliver, and even if we draft a QB high there’s no guarantee he’ll be ready next season.
True, but if that is the case he at least won’t be here for the future in any other role than as a stepping stone. In which case, we should use him until a better option is there to step over him. I think we would look at him more as a placeholder in that situation than we’d look at him in any way as a ::hardquote:: "starter.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
endquote.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
ARe you a fan. I understand homerism and wanting local talent, but he isn’t a talent and he would be a worse option IMO.
"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.
David Carr is 30
He has a lot LOT less room for improvement than 25 year old Alex Smith
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 22, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Nate Davis
I like his potential, and I like that he’s not be rushed into things. Under no circumstances do I think he should be starting in 2010. Maybe if the Niners tank the rest of this season, they can start Nate in a game or two to get him some experience, but unless he puts up amazing numbers, there’s no way he should be a starter to begin the 2010 season.
If we suck again midway through 2010, perhaps then he can take the reigns, but I don’t think we should be putting any pressure on this kid in the near future. Let’s develop him first, and make sure the team has some offensive continuity.
I wouldn’t want any of these guys on this post as the Niners starter.
by Andrew Davidson on Nov 19, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions
Following your line of thinking
which is identical to Nolan — “rookies play young”. He’s not a kid, he’s a man. Why do we treat QB’s like babies — because of Alex? He’s got talent — PLAY HIM.
Kezarvet
The Niners need to keep sticking with Smith for at least another season or two until Nate Davis is ready. The last thing we need is a bum qb like Tarvaris Jackson or a guy like Pennington who ends up on the IR every season…
On the contrary, if Alex Smith finishes out this year in less than stellar fashion, they should use the next few years trying to find somebody who actually is good while Nate Davis gets a chance to develop himself into the competition.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 19, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
I don't want another wasted
season waiting for Alex Smith to miraculously develop natural instincts. It will never happen. They are “natural” and he wasn’t born with them.
Kezarvet
In my own fantasy world
I’m pulling for Mike Vick. I hope he shows philly something to the point they’d be willing to trade mcnabb for say, 2 first round picks. Could also have a reunion, bring back Garcia and Owens. But in reality, we’ll be hitting up the draft for a new 1st round prospect.
I'll go with Davis but,
Although no one mentioned him.. I think Tarvaris Jackson has a lot of potential so whichever team gets him may have something to look forward to.. I can see him going to the Bills or the Browns..
Where's Dan Lefevour
"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.
probably in his room at the dormitory
or do you think he stays off campus?
by sundaysfinest on Nov 19, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Nate Davis
I hope Nate gets more chances to show what he can do. I watched his Pre-season performances. What impressed me was how he lead every receiver on every throw perfectly. I don’t remember seeing any receiver , having to make an adjustment to catch it. That big for a young QB.
Well at backup QB, maybe...
I’m pretty sure Clausen will be a decent NFL starter, but nobody else has done anything that makes me confident their game will translate to the NFL.
If Smith doesn't work out
(I think he will work out)…. Get a QB in the 1st or 2nd Round of the 2010 NFL Draft. Even if Smith doesn’t, I think we need to draft a QB regardless. Because Hill is up there in age and Davis won’t be our future. Way too many stare downs, over throws, etc. And his stats were not great.
People are putting far too much stock in to Nate Davis. There are at least 4 or 5 QB’s coming out of college that have more upside than Davis.
I'll take Smiths 2009 stats and play
against 1st string defenses over Davis’ 2009 preseason stats and play against 2nd string and 3rd string scrubs anyday of the week.
Davis:
http://www.nfl.com/players/natedavis/gamelogs?id=DAV574009
Smith:
http://www.nfl.com/players/alexsmith/profile?id=SMI031126
Davis has worse stats playing against a lower level of competition. Not sure what gives anyone the impression that Davis will or would be anything more than what Smith is giving us now. I have watched that video on youtube of Davis as well (the 9:50 min one with the depressing music)…. and looks like a 3rd string QB to me. Nothing more nothing less.
This is a much better argument
than his dyslexia.
I’m in agreement with you though—I don’t think Nate Davis is our QB of the future either.
I am not sure
if you are refferencing someone else with the dyslexia thing. But I haven’t used his disability as a crutch for my argument in this. All I have said is that he is not smart which was not in connection to his disability. I have known very intelligent people that had dyslexia.
Anyhow, I just think that people are VERY prematurely naming this guy the savior with nothing to really go off of.
yeah right
You must have been watching a video of Smith last week..
Shaun and Alex ~ A Commitment to Mediocrity
IT’S BECAUSE HAVE YOU SEEN HIM PLAY HE HAS NATURAL INSTINCTS AND GETS RID OF THE BALL QUICKLY AND IS A LEADERSHIP HE MAKES HIS READS YOU CAN’T TEACH THAT IT’S ALL NATURAL UNLIKE ALEX SMITH WHO HAS NO NATURAL QUARTERBACK INSTINCTS AND HE NEVER WILL HE JUST IS WHAT HE ALWAYS WILL BE: MEDIOCRE.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
And to think that I didn’t even copy/paste that!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
wait a minute how the hell can you compare the preseason stats of a player who is a flat out rookie!
to smith who has been playing for years???
tell you what here is smiths rookie year games numbers.
G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck Rate fum
9 165 84 50.9 18.3 875 5.3 97.2 1 0.6 11 6.7 47 13 2 29 40.8 11
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate FUM Lost
4 0 29 49 59.2 314 6.4 2 1 2 8 83.2 0 0
only 3 of smiths fumbles were lost, but i’ll take davis’ preseason numbers over Smith’s whole rookie season ANYDAY. and i do not see how davis could even come close to the failure of smith his rookie year.
if anyone thinks smith has more upside than davis your nuts.
i can’t find Smith’s preseason numbers. but the regular ones sucked
by whitemike1644 on Nov 20, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
We are talking about 2009
not Smith rookie season to Davis’
Please tell me you arent trying to justify starting Davis with that garbage
how can you compare smiths 5 year to davis 1st year???
by whitemike1644 on Nov 20, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
2009?
current events?
People calling for Davis to start RIGHT NOW. Or ever… Maybe all the people that are claiming Davis is better than Smith. etc, etc, etc…
You aren’t following very well.
i agree
i don’t want him to start right now… i would like for him to start the last 1 or 2 games if our year is down the drain to see what he has.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 20, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
I really can’t see that happening. He is the 3rd string QB. If anyone goes in, its going to be Hill. It would take Alex Smith having like 4 horrific games in a row for any changes to happen.
Smith is going to have his job safe more than likely for the remainder of the season. Possibly even his contract
And I will not be one bit surprised if the Niners draft another QB in 2010. Nate Davis is playing DB on the prep squad for Godssake. QB is the most valued position on the team…probably should clue us in as to what the coaches perceive his value at
It could happen if the season is really, truly in the toilet...
Like losing every game from here until week 14 or 15. You’d then be casting about for who to keep, and playing more for a slightly cheaper draft slot or possibly pride. That’s the precondition. You might not start Hill then, because he’s shown what he’s got. Not that much. You get a look at Davis against real NFL players, and a clearer picture will emerge. You have to remember, if the coaches really thought he was as totally hopeless as you do, they’d have kept Damon Huard instead.
I suppose thats
why they have him playing DB on the prep squad huh?
The only thing he had on Huard was age.
If the season is in the toilet, they will stick with Smith and let him try and work it out.
Personally, I would rather see this team make it to the playoffs so to route for the season to be down the toilet to see a 3rd rate QB is beyond me
Hoping for the season to sink like the Titanic is not what I'm doing...
Poor reading comprehension there. I’m just setting up a scenario where a Davis start could happen for you. I actually would rather not see it until next year or even the year after that. If Smith pulls a Jim Plunkett in the meantime, or they guess right about a QB this time in the draft, cut Davis, try to turn his preseason video into a draft choice from some other team like maybe the Browns, I won’t care. He did show that he could do some things in preseason, but he also showed some rough edges. My position at this point is I have no idea whether he will pan out or not. Neither do you. Given that nobody else looks very good, it’s tempting to speculate. If I had a project QB, one of the things I might consider doing is giving him a few reps at DB, just to maybe get him a better sense of what the guys he’s trying to complete passes on are looking for. 3rd stringers typically don’t get many reps at QB in practice. My assumption is that they’re just kinda hoping he’ll do enough homework with the playbook, and pick up things by watching right now. Football is a hard business, and I’m still maintaining that if the coaches really saw nothing in the guy, they’d cut him and bring back Huard, or sign an actual DB. If the guy has neither any upside, nor does he do anything for your chance to win should he play, I gurantee he’s gone, even if he’s the GM’s nephew.
I'm not so sure
it was poor reading comprehension as it was more due to all of the people saying that they would like to see Davis in there this year. Maybe more of an incorrect assumption.
I cannot begin to wrap my head around the concept though. I have seen the footage and I watched every single preseason game a couple times each. (Not saying you, now that I read your post), but alot of people are mixing their kool-aid with cement trucks getting ready for the next coming of JM or SY in Davis. It has been a while since we have had that sort of QB playing for this team so I can see why people are breaking out their curly straws in getting ready for this guy.
I have just seen too much in a short amount of time to buy in to all that. I have explained in detail in other threads my theories on the guy so I just refuse to go in to it anymore. But I have more than an educated guess that we have nothing more than what he currently is on the depth chart in him. Not sure how much he would even be worth in a trade for a draft pick… but if we got something (even a 7th) that’d be cool with me.
I thought about all the theories that you suggested previous to you saying so; about them maybe wanting to get better perspective about how the DB’s may or may not think. But I dug deeper in to that thought and it struck me that it would benefit him more to know what the safeties were doing than a CB. Every CB will have different tendencies and what not, but what the safeties are doing on the field would be the key to a QB’s success, not as much a CB. I can just tell that any time Sing is asked about him he snickers as if to say to the media “if you only knew”.
All this Davis stuff was humorous to me for a while and I actually lol’d a few times at some of the people ranting about “put Davis in now!” Now I am just getting annoyed. It’s really just that absurd.
Now that Smith has a shot with more weapons (young weapons) than he has in any years past, with everything that he has had to endure, it would be a great story to see him ressurect his career. The knowledge he has now as to before will surely help his cause. And to not let him finish it out even if he struggles some would be an error in denting up any kind of trade value that may be there. If not, there is more valuable stock in QB’s coming out in the 2010 Draft than Davis. When I look at Davis, I just see him as one of those backups that does it for a couple years and is out. A Bill Musgrave/ Giovanni Carmazzi type of guy… I remember people giving praise to those guys back in the day in the same manner that they are to Davis right now.
wow i've said all over the place IF the season is over. not jets lose to play him.
I’m over trying to explain things to drew he doesn’t even read what people are saying…
who the hell said if we are winning throw him in??? everyone has agreed that if we are out of the hunt we should put him in for the last game at the least.
you are the only one that is saying we should lose so we can put the kid in…
thanks for NOT listening
by whitemike1644 on Nov 21, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
I don't read??
That is a laugh. You have not been paying attention to one thing that has been said here. Go back through with a magnifying glass to make the words bigger or something.
Even throwing him in at the end makes zero sense there smart guy. We need to get something for Alex Smith if he struggles a bit toward the end. Taking him out will ruin his trade value.
And really? How much is Nate Davis going to show us against the Lions and the Rams??? Think before you speak
And I doubt EVERYONE has agreed that if we are out of the hunt to put him in. He is a 3rd string QB….get a clue
sorry smith has no trade value. if we get to game 15 or 16...
why would it be stupid to put davis in? because one or two games will not hurt his value. and if you really think we are losing then why the hell would you want smith to continue.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 21, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you dont have the authority
to make business decisions in your line of work. Who is the NY Giants back up QB right now? People thought he did not have any worth either. Evidently wrong.
If Smith fails (which I am having a really hard time seeing, being that he has played decent) then he will have value contrary to what you think.
I feel like this is a waste of my time talking about such a far-fetched concept so I am just going to end it here. In Singletary’s words, “that’s not even in th realm of thinking”. Davis is the 3rd string QB and it makes zero sense to think that he is going to leap frog Shaun Hill and bump Davis unless there is reason to. Obviously so far there has been no reason to because he IS STILL #3 not even #2.
Not if you know anything about the Niners.
It’s their way of keeping him involved. He has the clipboard every Sunday and you can bet he’ll be at the top of Singletary’s to-do list next season.
Kezarvet
I would not take make that bet
Nate Davis is not who you think he is…. I am not sure how you even came to the conclusion but it is getting very annoying. For the sake of sounding redundant you should probably hold off on anymore Nate Davis talk because it may not ever even happen…. I am leaning more toward that scenario.
I have only seen Shaun Hill involved on the sidelines and rarely even see Davis there. Havent there been a coiuple games where Davis didn’t even suit up?
i got a better idea.
do you want smith to be our starter next year???
do you want hill to be the starter again???
or do you have an idea that is better than everyone else’s???
by whitemike1644 on Nov 21, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
And yes
actually I do want to see Smith as the starter next year. Because what that means is that he did well the rest of this year and possibly led the team to the playoffs. Absolutely I want to see Smith the starter and succeed.
You must have forgot to take your meds today
old man… I’ll sympathize. Btw, how are the elves behaving? Are the reindeers taking a nap right now?
wow good argument here
what are you like 12?
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
More like 10
And you calling Nate Davis an idiot is really rich.
Shaun and Alex ~ A Commitment to Mediocrity
OMG hilarious
you are so witty Drew.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Here's my Christmas list...ready?
1. Stop talking about Nate Davis
2. Stop talking about Nate Davis
3. Stop talking about Nate Davis
Not much to really ask for but maybe you could help us all out with that until there is actually something to talk about.
Actually he has been suiting up every
game but wears a baseball cap and carries the clipboard. Check your videos. Maybe you were watching the wrong team.
Kezarvet
I watching the 49ers
go check your tape… I believe he did not suit for 2 games this year. Shaun Hill has been the only one carrying the clip board. If Nate is carrying anything other than a Vibe magazine on the sideline I would be surprised
man davis didn't suit up for 2 games
we should just cut his ass…
jeez
by whitemike1644 on Nov 21, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 21, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Nice English
Nate Davis was right there in uniform vs. the Pack and he was carrying a clipboard. You might want to check with Lens Crafters.
Kezarvet
I'm pretty sure Davis was in uniform on the sidelines
For every game, not 100% positive on that one though.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 AM PST up reply actions
Davis fans have fallen victim
to the Shiny New Toy syndrome.
They think he’s ready to Right Now! and that he’ll do better than Alex Smith. The number say otherwise.
Will he eventually be a better QB? Maybe. I doubt it though.
by smileyman on Nov 20, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Derek Anderson
How would he do if he had a decent O-Line, and play-makers??
Joe Thomas, Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow……
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
Yeah
the Browns need a QB and it’s not either of the guys they have now. Not sure how us getting either is an upgrade
by Drew Kerr on Nov 20, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Nov 20, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t that two years ago?
Actually, I just checked and it was. It looks like they still have three of those lineman, but only two of them are still starting.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
(Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach).
Hank Fraley was the center in 2007, but he’s listed behind rookie Alex Mack on the depth chart that I looked at, and neither Seth McKinney nor Kevin Shaffer appear to still be with the team. It was only a quick look, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was in 2008?
Nevermind
2008 was when the Pro Bowl was played. It was his 2007 season that earned him that trip.
McCarthy said:
McCarthy said that his experience with Smith shaped his philosophy with young quarterbacks, and that he is a strong proponent of the “sit-and-watch” method.
But some of you guys know better, i guess. Based on what?
In my opinion
a coach cannot run a team based on some fans desperate need to win NEXT WEEK.
ND, PW, MC, etc., etc…. Talented young players with a future.
I hope their future is in SF.
There is a big picture:
Step back and you may see it.
The coach is Mike!
Give him the gift of patience and trust.
He has earned it!
Andrew Luck
is a viable franchise option…no need to waste a pick this year for a loser QB or next year for that matter.
I like to think he's the real deal
He’s got at least 2 more years of college ball left though.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
sheesh guys
don’t you see where this is all headed? Urban Meyer coaches Alex Smith in spread offense at Utah. Smith is drafted #1 by Niners. We’re now trying to migrate to the spread to help Smith be comfortable. Our OC is slow-going to the transition to spread. Urban Meyer rumored to be looking at other jobs now that he’s won 2 championships at Florida. His QB there in a spread offense, Tim Tebow, is a Senior.
Urban Meyer hired as OC, draft Tebow. Full on spread attack with Smith while bringing Tebow along in the wings.
/sarcasm
Ubran Meyer isn't going to take a pro coordinator job
You want him, you make him your head coach.
And football-factory head coaches have a pretty mediocre record of success in the pros.
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