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Still think the Niners will reach the playoffs???

At the beginning of the year I called this team to go 6-10 or 7-9.

I think they will now end up as good as 8-8, due to the weak schedule vs. the Lions and the Rams.

The question is does anyone out there think they can pass the Cardinals as its very likely that only 1 NFC West team will make the playoffs.

The failure of Mc Boo Foo to consistently ignore concerns via the draft for a right tackle and pass rusher has been detrimental to say the least. Couple this with the injuries to Staley and Clements and I just don't see this team making the playoffs.

I just hope the Panthers continue to cooperate and the Niners go worse than 8-8 this year and use the draft properly as a way to build the team for the years going forward. The team has shown signs of improvement and there is no shame in not making the playoffs-especially with it most likely resulting in a 1st rd exit and a lower draft pick.

 

Think about it.

 

 

 



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I agree we made bad draft choices but I am not in the war room and maybe no one wanted the pick to trade down(doubt it) see my sig?

GB, Jacksonville, Seattle, Arizona, Philly, Detroit, and STL are our remaining games we stil have a shot mathematically, but this GB game IMO is the biggest. It’s the one we are suppose to lose because their strengths in defense and passing offense are our biggest weaknesses (anemic O and bad pass Def) I won’t count us out until we are mathematically out of the race(playoffs)

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 20, 2009 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

Id rather make the playoffs.

I know it is very likely we are one and done, but it is still possible we come out and our defense shuts people down and gore runs over everyone. not likely, but possible.

by june8thjrat on Nov 20, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

When you consider our last 2 games

~ being beaten by a 1-6 team at home

~ scoring just 10 points off of 5 interceptions at home

I’d say our chances of being successful in the post season are slim to none. That said, does it really matter if we do squeak in and make it because the Cards fall flat on their faces?

Shaun and Alex ~ A Commitment to Mediocrity

by riderless on Nov 20, 2009 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

You also have to consider our last two games are Rams and Lions

If we fall to GB that’s a different story because we would then need to run the table the rest of the season.

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

The Rams were actually competeitive against the Saints for 3+ quarters last week. They could have won the game on the last drive.

Shaun and Alex ~ A Commitment to Mediocrity

by riderless on Nov 20, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The defense has been awesome

So saying that not having a pass rusher has been a big detriment is ridiculous.Yes, the pass rush could be better, but the Niners are 14th in adjusted sack rate, so it’s not exactly a weakness.

The offensive line has been terrible, I will give you that.

But what would you have done differently in the draft? I don’t see where big mistakes were made, really all of the picks seemed fine to me at the time and still do for the most part.

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

Indeed -

If Italia had any integrity, he’d acknowledge that Lawson has done far better than he anticipated as a pass rusher this year.

Italia’s big complaint was that we should have spent that second-round pick on a pass-rusher rather than trading up into this year’s draft. But, of course, the guy he was advocating for hasn’t really been a major impact pass-rusher, which makes McLoughan look smart.

by Ronaldinho on Nov 20, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I just want the record to be straight

I wanted to trade the Crabtree pick or draft Oher

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 20, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually wanted Oher, too ...

And was skeptical about Crabtree.

He looks like the real deal, but I tend to think that linemen are more important than receivers. Great linemen will make QBs and receivers look good. The reverse is not true.

I understand the logic of getting Crabtree, and accepted the decision. I don’t think it was a blunder by any stretch of the imagination. The gap between Crabtree and the receiver we could get next year in the draft is likely to be bigger than the gap between Oher and the lineman we get next year.

But wow, Oher seems like a beast.

by Ronaldinho on Nov 20, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there is the same talent gap between WR and OT between these two drafts.

by bignerd on Nov 20, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If Crabtree hadn't fallen to # 10 then the 49ers were going to pick Oher.

I can’t remember where I read it after the draft but I saw where they were trying to trade down but couldn’t get a good package.

By the way.. I also wanted them to trade down to pick Oher.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Nov 20, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a load of crap

The Patriots traded back for a 1st and 2nd two times in the draft and they had pick 23 I believe (wherever Oher was selected) Saying they couldn’t get a good package is BS, especially since the Pats got Ron Brace, Darius Butler, and An OL with the deals.

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 20, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Would anyone trade the Panthers first rounder next year for Everrette Brown?

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 20, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell to the no

We all would have taken a 2nd 2nd rounder though

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 20, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

What???

1) How many sacks does Lawson have and where does he rank for overall sack leaders??

2) Who is McLoughlan?

by Italia1970 on Nov 20, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way I find your disrespect to be way too much

Scot McCloughan is the General Manager of the SF 49ers. Referring to him as “Mc Boo Foo” shows total disrespect.
He may have made some choices that you and others, including me, did not agree with but he still deserves the respect of his postition. By the way he also drafted Gore, Willis, Staley and others as well as made some good FA signings. I also thought the trade last year for Carolina’s 1st rd pick in 2010 was a good move.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Nov 20, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Mc Boo Foo is a nickname that he’s had around these boards for a while now. It’s not disrespectful. It’s funny.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No, actually it is very disrespectful...

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Nov 20, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

How?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m really amazed that we’re even having this conversation. He’s a public figure, so he’s open to public opinion/ridicule. And beside that, Mc Boo Foo isn’t even derogatory, nor does it have any negative connotations to speak of. It just sounds funny. There’s absolutely nothing objectionable about it, and even if there were it would have to actually be offensive to deserve the level of vitriol you appear to be displaying.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Not important, but,

It seems disrespectful to me also, but maybe it’s a generation thing. But that depends somewhat on your ages. The older I get the more important respect, even the appearance of respect, seems to become. Don’t know why, and maybe it’s just me!

by CorneliusJ on Nov 20, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

But, it’s not like he’s some revered figure. He’s the general manager of a football team, and it would be hard to say that he’s even a good one based on his body of work.

I mean, it’s not like I’m calling him up on the phone and going, “Hey, Mc Boo Foo, wassup!” I think you really have to achieve a special level of reverence as a public figure to warrant some kind of universal respect.

I’m sure the people who know him respect him. If I ever met him, I would speak to him respectfully. But I don’t know why he should be held to a higher standard on a public forum than any other public figure. He’s not the Pope. He’s not Elvis. He’s a by-all-rights mediocre general manager of a football team.

And Mc Boo Foo isn’t even bad. It doesn’t even mean anything. It’s just a nonsense series of syllables. I could think of a hundred more disrespectful things to call him, and a hundred more that would even cross the line of acceptability.

I’m all for respect and I do absolutely think it’s important, but everything has to come with a little perspective.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I am 59 and was brought up to respect others.

It appears that others here don’t quite agree with the level of respect so I will keep it to myself.

Also, the Mc Boo Foo name has been used mostly in a definitely negative way while nicknames lik Bamm Bamm are fun and positive.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Nov 20, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, just so we’re clear, I do respect your opinion. I might hold myself to a slightly different opinion, but I don’t want you to feel pressured into not expressing yours. It’s certainly an admirable and respectable standard to hold yourself to.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you

Also I do appreciate that your use of that term is more funny that not… And I do respect yours, and all other’s opinions here. Except, of course, when they want to draft someone I don’t . ;-)

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Nov 20, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

As much as I respect Eastbayjim, I love using the term Mc Boo Foo, it’s perfect. A good euphemism for the frustration he causes me.

by bignerd on Nov 20, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Mc Boo Foo

sounds like a name for a cartoon character.

by smileyman on Nov 20, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you..

One note is that I would suggest we all consider that many of the draft choices that were made during the Nolan era. Also, I do believe that I may be over reacting a touch..

So what happens when he drafts Berry and a good RT in the 1st round in 2010… any changes to the nickname ?

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Nov 20, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG that is good...

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Nov 21, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Good Question

Mmm . . . I still don’t think I’d have much confidence in him.

He does the long term things right; manages the cap, builds through the draft and finds ways to sign his own players to friend contracts.

It’s always the short term things I rage on.

Probably needs two good seasons before I reconsider.

by bignerd on Nov 21, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Mc Yahoo Foo?

It’s a bit long though….

by NH49er on Nov 24, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

It’s kind of like player nicknames. Like calling JT O’Sullivan “JustTurnOvers.” Or Kevan Barlow “Happy Feet.” Or the “LOLffensive LOLine.” As long as it stays clean, I don’t see any problem with giving someone a nickname that reflects how you feel about him/her.

McCloughan has made errors that make him look like a fool so some people. Nothing wrong with that opinion.

by sfgfan on Nov 20, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree,

Funny-nick names = no harm. And I probably did loose a little perspective.

by CorneliusJ on Nov 20, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You do mean

L-O-S-E, don’t you? If not, your grammar is pretty loose.

Kezarvet

by kezarvet on Nov 21, 2009 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Stupid error:

I wish I could claim a typo, but the truth is I saw it, accepted the spelling, and left it. My brain sometimes fails me. Confession: I used to be a teacher, but thankfully, not Language Arts.

by CorneliusJ on Nov 21, 2009 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The fact that you would even ask

makes me believe that you are either very young or very insensitive.

Kezarvet

by kezarvet on Nov 21, 2009 7:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Just inquisitive.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

McCloughan And Respect

What has this loser done to earn anyones respect other than to draft like an idiot..He gave up the number 10 pick to get Staley, not a good move..McCloughan only drafted Willis after Nolan coached him in the Senior Bowl and Nolan begged him to draft him..Everyone gets lucky once in a while and he did with Gore who missed two full seasons with injuries in college..

How about Alex Smith one of the worst number one picks in history, Kentwan Balmer(a joke), Vernon Davis(terrible top ten pick, never draft a tight end in the top ten, completely stupid), and Crabtree who isn’t half the receiver that Harvin is, and my favorite, Kwame Harris..

McCloughan should be run out of town on a rail along with the Yorks..

by The Sear on Nov 25, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Kwame Harris was drafted in 2003.

It’s also a fallacy to quote luck for good picks while failing to attribute bad luck to bad picks. Either luck runs both ways or it doesn’t.

Why am I even responding, anyway? You’re obviously only interested in yelling about how much the the Yorks and McCloughan suck, and you clearly have no interest in either discussion or the community.

I’m out. Peace.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 25, 2009 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Before the season I predicted

10-6 and at worst 9-7. It’s still an achievable goal.

The rest of the teams on our schedule are very beatable. The ones I worry about are Arizona and Philly, but Philly has also had it’s struggles. If we lose those two games we end up at 9-7 and a winning record.

We win one of those games (preferrably the AZ game), and we’re 10-6 and we clinch the NFC West.

by smileyman on Nov 20, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

You're discounting...

… this weekend’s game? I think, if anything, the Packers should be a team the 49ers definitely fear. They have a defense the 49ers can’t predict. They have an offense that defies conventional logic (i.e. continual success in the passing game regardless of sacks) and plays to the weaker aspect of the 49ers defense.

by sfgfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

At the beginning of the season

i worried.

But the Packers O-line is soo beat up that I’m not nearly as worried about it. I think our D is better than their offense, and I think our running game is better than their D.

I’m fairly confident about this game.

by smileyman on Nov 20, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?? Where do these delusionals come from??

I want some of what your smoking..You better watch out for Jacksonville and everyone else on the schedule and I would love to bet you anything you want that this team will not win 9 games..

That must be some good stuff your smoking

by The Sear on Nov 25, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay I was way to optimistic!

I still think our best shot for the Playoffs comes with winning the Division. We need to beat Arizona and hope that they lose a few games somewhere along the line. If we catch up to them record wise we can win the division on the tie breaker.

But we could win 5 more games and end up 9-7 which would put us in a possible wild card slot. With that being said our games against GB and Philly will become extremely important at the end of the season if we are in contention? I think if we lose either of those games, we can pretty much role out the possibility of a wild card berth.

11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction! <--- Hey It could still happen!

by Ten-Man on Nov 20, 2009 11:28 AM PST reply actions  

no playoffs this year.

has anyone seen how easy the Cards schesdule is.. they can easily go 10-6

i say we throw the final 7 games and lets get a good QB from draft pick

DUBfan4life!!!!

by BayAreaKidd650 on Nov 20, 2009 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Throwing games is crazy ...

… we have so much to learn about our players. In particular, we need to see what development we get from Rachal and Smith. Can Hill deliver consistently at the pro level? Etc, etc, etc.

Furthermore, winning isn’t a mentality you can turn off and on with the flick of a switch. If you let players develop bad habits, they can be really hard to turn around (see the Oakland Raiders, although they have bigger problems than that.)

by Ronaldinho on Nov 20, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

I’m pretty sure throwing games to end the season in the NFL does your team more bad than good. You learn nothing from players you’re hoping to be your future if you don’t continue to tutor and teach them the same way you would if you were trying to win.

by sfgfan on Nov 20, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he means unintentionally

Like throwing in Davis to start, bringing Boone up off the PS and starting wallace in Baas spot. Then throw the ball 40 times a game and go winless.

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 20, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You are clearly wrong

Pulling Alex Smith and putting in Davis will make the 49ers go undefeated the rest of the way. Undefeated, I tell you!!

by brundylop on Nov 26, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Nate Davis has never lost an NFL game. That’s not just math. It’s also science.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 26, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

If we can reach the playoffs, I want in

It’ll make the end of the season more enjoyable, anyway. Also, there’s this thing called “anything can happen in the playoffs” (in baseball… in football, I think they call it “any given sunday.”) We don’t win the superbowl, but an exciting end to the year will have us thinking optimistically about next season with some good draft choices.

Other kids may be sayin' hi-ho, but The Gooch just says yo.

by whobob on Nov 20, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Don't know...

but only 17 points seperates us from being 8-1. This team just hasn’t had the bounces both literally and metaphorically go there way.

Maybe the Bears game was the turning of the tide so-to-speak.

Either way, I hope Coach Singletary is here for a long time despite any other changes that may occur.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 20, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t know… but only 17 points seperates us from being 8-1

And that ‘1’ was a complete blowout.

Maybe the Bears game was the turning of the tide so-to-speak.

Scoring just 10 points off of 5 turnovers was a turning point?

Shaun and Alex ~ A Commitment to Mediocrity

by riderless on Nov 20, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It turned an awful performance into a win.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

Being able to win an awful performance is something a team has to learn to do. It’d be great if teams were flawless all the time and that led them to wins. But teams aren’t flawless all the time and being able to win despite that lack of flawlessness can be a good thing.

This is not to say that I definitely think the 49ers are looking up from here. I’m just saying it’s not that far fetched of an idea.

by sfgfan on Nov 20, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha! And here I thought I was just making a pun.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 20, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

SO you have a problem with how close we were to being 8-1 because of one blowout?

geeeeez

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 20, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

As a 'Homer'

I still believe we will be 16-0 by the end of the season after the NFL rules in our favor because the teams we lost to will be found to be cheating and have to forfeit the win to us retroactively.

by danknerd49 on Nov 20, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

I think there's a good chance if you guys get back to the football you played at the beginning of the year

And if you take advantage of the schizophrenic Cardinals. They seem to be making it easy.

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by Farorefox on Nov 20, 2009 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

I always wish that the 49ers will make the playoffs...

but with Alex Smith at QB the chances are slim and none and Slim is on his way out of town. I would feel much more confident with Hill and look forward to Nate Davis’ coming out party in 2010.

Kezarvet

by kezarvet on Nov 21, 2009 6:58 AM PST reply actions  

i'll make you a deal.

If you stop criticizing Alex Smith, then i will promise to support ND 100% (with comments) once he becomes the niner’s starter (or anytime he takes snaps). It doesn’t make sense to me to see a mature, intelligent successful man like yourself spending so much effort and ink criticizing a 25 year old.

by zacksf on Nov 21, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Why??

Why stop criticizing one of the worst QB’s in the NFL?? This guy is terrible and will get Singletary fired if he keeps believing in him..Alex Smith will do just enough to lose the game and get the coach fired..That is his MO and always will be..

Look at his record as a starter, put Hill back in or give Davis a shot, the Alex Smith experiment failed years ago and will always fail forever..

by The Sear on Nov 25, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Get a new therapist:

The one you have now is not helping!

by CorneliusJ on Nov 25, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Look at his record as a starter, put Hill back in…

I was hoping the first 7 1/2 games of this season would dispel these idiotic comments. Shaun Hill does not win games. He happens to be mostly present during some fortunate events against very weak opponents. His only upside is that he doesn’t throw interceptions – with comes hand-in-hand with the fact that he doesn’t really throw for first downs, either.

In a weird kind of way, I was actually really glad that Hill was allowed to start the first half of this season. It went a long way towards showing 49er fans that he was never a realistic option for the future (even the immediate future) and that we, as a franchise, cannot simply throw anyone back there and hope for them to “lead” us simply by minimizing their impact on the games that they play.

It seems that some fans just missed out on that lesson, though… =\

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Nov 26, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

J Russel is terrible

Take a pill

"Optimist Prime"
Haden and Berry 1st round?

by rlott#42 on Nov 26, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Side Note

What happened to the tampering case with the Jets? Did the NFL dismiss it because of their East Coast love?

by FearTheTree on Nov 21, 2009 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

I bet they are trying to kill it. I’m not sure how this one will go. I don’t think Goodell want’s to set a precedent on this. Also don’t think the 49ers wants to make too many waves considering they are asking the NFL for money to build a new stadium. To get the money it goes to a vote by the owners and they cannot afford a No vote from the Jets. I would expect some strange political deal we never hear about.

by bignerd on Nov 21, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

i do not think the 9ers will make the playoffs. nope, i do not think we can beat the cards again.

dreaming of next season already

"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai

by redrum21225 on Nov 21, 2009 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

I never though the 49ers belonged in the playoffs

or would make them this year.

But I like what I see and I am more optimistic about the 49ers than I have been since 1999.

Patrick Willis: is awesome. There are a lot of flashes of brilliance on the defense, in general, although we could use help in the secondary and pass rush.

On offense: Gore is solid and I like the young receivers, especially Crabtree and, of course, VD. Both pro-bowlers. Not sure how much potential Hill and Morgan have, but I am keeping an open mind; Morgan is tough and aggressive, and he blocks well, which is important in our scheme.

The offensive line makes me cringe each week, but with a draft pick (or two) and Staley healthy I am optimistic about dramatic improvement there. Oline functions as a unit and improvement in parts can dramatically improve the whole.

I like what I see with Alex Smith. He is progressing well. I am aware that I don’t know how this will turn out, but he seems very crisp, much less rusty than i would have expected, and is working impressively well with inexperienced receivers. Not once has he complained about the oline. That is classy. It takes time for a young QB and receivers to get in synch. The mistakes have seemed modest and reasonable, and the successes suggest high upside to me.

“Next year” can mean a lot of things. It can be a cry of desperation, or it can be a expression of perspective for a young, rebuilding team with pro-bowl talent at key positions (beginning with Inside (“M”) linebacker) and a highly intelligent coach with the heart of a lion.

by zacksf on Nov 21, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

What about Merriman in FA next year

He’s looking better than our OLB’s and that knee is still bothering him

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 21, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

Just as long as he gets

back on the steriods… it’s like Superman with kryptonite if he doesnt take them.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 21, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

sarcasm noted

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 21, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that was me being sarcastic

reverted all the way back to the former now…. Wow, how much gray area did I just create?

by Drew Kerr on Nov 23, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions  

plenty

As usual enough for all of us!

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 23, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

aww…c’mon. It’s probably a 60/40 ratio… just like our run/ pass ratio at the beggining of the year

by Drew Kerr on Nov 27, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah right

That’s way off

"Optimist Prime"
I'll say it over and over Crabtree was not the pick we NEEDED, at least until he scores with 100yds receiving.

by rlott#42 on Nov 23, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

You made a fanpost just to say "I told you so"?

Nice!
I never thought the Niners would make the playoffs either. We deserve a cookie. Where’s our cookies damnit!

If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.

by cybermaldonado on Nov 22, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

no

"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow

by 9Custs on Nov 22, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

so you guys don’t think arizona can lose the next 2 games???

or do you guys think we can’t win two straight?

AZ has the titans then the vikings.

we have the jags and the seahawks.

i think we could go into the cards game making it a decisive game.

by whitemike1644 on Nov 22, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions  

AZ could very well go in a tailspin

depending on how bad Warner is hurt and if he’ll miss any playing time.

by smileyman on Nov 23, 2009 3:25 AM PST up reply actions  

big fan

let’s face it, we don’t need to wait for next year draft, we need a better coaching staff and better player preiod. detroit and the rams are easy wins, wait we are talking about the 49ers, not easy wins.

by sam635 on Nov 23, 2009 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

That’s a bold statement.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Have we finally put an end to 'the best player available' draft approach?

We sort of got off topic on Mc Boo Foo (no disrespect intended, I just forget how to spell it and don’t want to look it up…), and I think although he has had some misses he has done a decent job with all the names listed (and Willis makes up for alot of misses). All teams have misses in the draft, but I seem to remember the pre-draft reports on us needing OL and a pass rusher drastically. Instead we draft a WR, RB, LB, QB, S and round out with a DT in the final round. I got suckered in with all the optimism before the season about players coming of age and getting motivated, but what do you know… half way through the season and our biggest problems are OL and lack of a pass rush. There’s a surprise.

by NH49er on Nov 24, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

I think..

…. most teams that draft in the top half of the first round opt for the BPA approach. You only end up with a pick that high if you have holes in multiple places.

by sfgfan on Nov 24, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

What's killing me is why holes in multiple places doesn't translate into to trading for more picks?

The Patriots have very few holes, but they managed 4 2nd round picks off of 1 1st and a 3rd and a 4th, it’s mind blowing.

"Optimist Prime"
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Honorable Mention to howtheyscored, kazvareet,bignerd, ninjames

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by rlott#42 on Nov 24, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you have it a bit backwards as far as the Pats

They managed to parlay their picks into fuller picks this year due to the fact that they have so few holes. They are in a position to be drafting to fill a few (limited number of) immediate holes and get some projection players and when you have that the picks are just gravy and bargaining tools. I think we have some possibility for some wiggle room with our trade of the 2 last year for a 1 this year. We can do some trading down of that possibly if it’s not too high for anyone to deal with it and fill some much needed depth spots. Bill B didn’t get here overnight and he didn’t have a total rebuilding team to start with honestly. And let’s face it Brady was a total surprise even to him. I was up their during the Drew/Brady decision and the papers were full of talk of whether it should be Brady or Bledsoe and Bill pretty much admitted it’s not an easy choice. He is and Pioli helped him, a wizard of tooling around the picks but it wasn’t overnight that he got in a position to play poker with the draft picks.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Nov 25, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

All teams are in a position to trade drat picks.

You have to be in contact with all teams and you have to bite your toungue and except a little less. When a draft appears to be solid for two rounds you have to wheel and deal, our number 1 isn’t making that much of a difference so going into this season with more rookies wouldn’t have been any different.

"Optimist Prime"
Haden and Berry 1st round?

by rlott#42 on Nov 26, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to see us do some trading this time around

Not sure how well we’ll be able to do it. And I’m kinda happy to have that extra 1 we have it gives us some bargaining room. I’m not seeing yet people willing to trade up for pieces in this somewhat weak (at least no sure fires it seems) draft.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Nov 27, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

This.

I don’t know how the draft is actually going to play out, but it doesn’t seem like there is much to be really excited about in the middle of the first yet (most pass rushers don’t start to gain serious hype until the draft “season” starts, it seems), so the 49ers may actually have to use those two draft picks.

The one trade I would love for McCloughan to pull off is sending the second rounder away for yet another first rounder for next year’s draft. I’m just a big fan of picking up a future first, and this is especially true if you already have two firsts in the current year.

by sfgfan on Nov 30, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

There u go son

Preach on to the choir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Italia1970 on Dec 5, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Never As long As The Yorks Are Around

The curse of the losing clueless Yorks is still here and not going away soon, so just accept the fact that this team will continue to lose for many years to come..

Not even Coach Singletary can stop Jed and his fools from never providing good enough players to ever get over 500..

McCloughan has zero understanding of player personnel, just look at his drafting, in one word, pathetic..

This losing is now in year eight and it will go on and on and on and on as long as Jed and his band of fools own and run this awful show..

by The Sear on Nov 24, 2009 9:54 PM PST reply actions  

Considering,

That you seem to hate everything about the 49ers org.—what is your point? You keep saying that the 49ers org. sucks and will not get better in the foreseeable future. What are you trying to say? That we should cease to be niner fans. I don’t recall reading in any of your comments suggestions regarding a way to improve the team. Are you just negative? Or do you have a positive side that is so far not been revealed?

by CorneliusJ on Nov 24, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

McCloughan

So Mike Holmgren was wrong about him then? Mike Holmgren loved him when he was working for him.

by David Fucillo on Nov 25, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

do you get tired of repeating the same inane nonsense over and over?

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 25, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Harvin

Harvin has it all over Crabtree, faster, more elusive, better after the catch..The only thing Crabtree has as good as Harvin is his hands..We drafted the wrong receiver, like we do every year..We draft the wrong players..

by The Sear on Nov 24, 2009 10:09 PM PST reply actions  

Crabtree VS Harvin

The one clear thing we know is that Harvin is a better return man. There are too many variables to say Harvin is superior to Crabtree or Vice Versa.

Such as Crabtree is the number 1 reciever while Harvin is the number 2 receiver.

The Vikings have an OLine and a top 5 greatest QB(god I hate to type that) to create more time for him to get open and have the ball placed in better spots.

Then again, I am being lazy but in the games since Crabtree has started I believe he has far more targets his way.

by Oracle Junkie on Nov 25, 2009 1:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Harvin is number 3 and faces worst competition

Plus he is surrounded by more talent, there is no fair comparison, especially considering teams, it wasn’t the wrong player it was the wrong position, but no sense in beating a dead horse

"Optimist Prime"
My favorite threads of discussion include drummer, chesapekebayer, nocal81, Brendan Scolari, an occasional chime in from Fooch to stop the name callin', smileyman, drew k, chikmagnet_565, and who could forget #10 for Tech......

Honorable Mention to howtheyscored, kazvareet,bignerd, ninjames

Yeah a partaaaaaaay!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 25, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

idiot

of the village variety

by goatfather on Nov 27, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The Cardinals

Are a Kurt Warner injury away from not winning another game.

by goatfather on Nov 27, 2009 6:41 PM PST reply actions  

Lots of truth to that statement

Leinart isn’t going to cut it. When Warner went out last Sunday Leinart came in and stunk up the joint bad. Good think AZ put up 21 points in the 1st half because the Cardinal’s offense didn’t score any points in the second half.

Warner has practiced all week but is listed as questionable because of the head injury and a stiff neck.

by smileyman on Nov 27, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

8-8 is within reach; 9-7 is conceivable

They are now 4-6

Should Win:
Seattle Seahawks
Detroit Lions Detroit
St. Louis Rams

those put them at 7-6

If they win two of these, they will be playing decent football and beating the wild-card types of teams:

Jacksonville
Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles

That’s the only way… They need to win this week. The Jaguars are hungry and in a slightly better position to go to the playoffs.

by coicoy on Nov 27, 2009 9:25 PM PST reply actions  

yup

unless Warner goes down for the rest of the year. I’m not sure the Cardinals could win a game without him.

by goatfather on Nov 28, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

5-6

They’ve beat at least one of these teams:

Jacksonville
Arizona Cardinals
Philadelphia Eagles

The next three weeks are against Seattle, Arizona, and Philadelphia.

by coicoy on Nov 29, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

lets just win first

by zonedogs on Nov 28, 2009 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

Realist leaning towards optimist

I think there is a slim chance, and so the optimism kicks in and I will be rooting for them. I don’t think we have any chance at doing much in the playoffs, because we have quite a few issues to resolve. LOLine is a given. I believe the Raye is also an issue. I know others don’t agree, but there have been so many bad coaching decisions IMO. QB decision making. I agree Hill wasn’t helping us win, but he also didn’t lose us any games. Can the same be said of Alex? I think we could be a dominant team again, but we have to address at least two of those three issues to get on the right path.

There are other issues mentioned which could use some attention, but I feel these are the big three.

by AKinferno on Nov 29, 2009 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

Oline. Oline. Oline.

the big three.

Also, cb, safety and edge-rusher (the little 3).

(Raye and Alex are doing fine.)

by zacksf on Nov 30, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

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