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Thanksgiving Game Day Thread

Hello everyone and welcome to the Thanksgiving Game Day Thread! I trust that everybody is having a great holiday, and I'm glad that you are taking some time away from family and friends to spend with your favorite SF 49ers blog. Fooch may get a fresh thread up for the later game, but in the mean time feel free to share your thoughts about the early game in this one. Now with the business out of the way, I'd like to talk a little about the history behind football on Thanksgiving.

It is a tradition nearly as old as the sport itself and so ingrained in our national psyche that it's hard to imagine a Thanksgiving without it, but there was indeed a time when Turkey Day did not include pigskin. The earliest record of a professional Thanksgiving day game dates back to 1902 when the National Football League, unrelated to the current NFL, hosted its championship game on the holiday. When two teams from this now defunct NFL migrated over to the modern day NFL in 1920, they brought the Thanksgiving day tradition with them. While the NFL has scheduled games on Thanksgiving since its inception, the Detroit Lions and the Dallas Cowboys were not always the featured teams.

For Detroit the ascent from obscurity to becoming inextricably linked with a national holiday began in 1934. That's the year George Richards, a Detroit radio executive, bought the Portsmouth Ohio Spartans and moved them to Detroit. Unfortunately for Richards, the people of Detroit were too caught up following the Red Wings and Tigers to pay much attention to his football team. So, in an effort to sell tickets and increase interest, Richards scheduled a game against the Chicago Bears. The game was a huge success, as a sell-out crowd and a national radio audience all tuned in for the event. Since that first game in 1934, the Lions have become synonymous with Thanksgiving.

As for the Cowboys, their tradition did not start until 1966. It began when CBS decided to look for an afternoon game to partner with the Lions game. Owners around the league were apprehensive about playing on Thanksgiving, because they feared a drop in their ticket sales. Eventually Ted Schramm, the Cowboys president and general manager, volunteered Dallas on the condition that they would get to host a game every season after that. The league agreed and even guaranteed a minimum gate revenue if the Dallas fans did not show up. Instead the Cowboys set an attendance record with over 80,000 fans filling up the Cotton Bowl to see the game. Now, over 40 years later, Dallas is still a part of the Thanksgiving tradition.

Recently, people have begun to lament the Thanksgiving day games as an unfair advantage for both Detroit and Dallas. The late Lamar Hunt was especially vocal about the need to rotate the site of the games in order to level the playing field. To assuage the critics, the league has added a third game on Thanksgiving which airs at night and does not feature any specific team or site. Do you feel like hosting the games on Turkey Day gives an advantage to the Lions and Cowboys? If so, what is the solution?

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Happy Thanksgiving

To all the 49ers fans out there. Whether at home or abroad, have a safe and joyous day today.

Let's get the division!

by chriscream on Nov 26, 2009 8:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would like to say Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends on Niners Nation

"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...

by LondonNiner on Nov 26, 2009 9:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's the most meaningful 'Happy Thanksgiving' here, in my opinion!

You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.

by Ninjames on Nov 26, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks James ...

… slightly jealous of all this turkey talk. Over here it’s a standard evening where any dinner goes … which means I’m smacking my lips for all that bird!

"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...

by LondonNiner on Nov 26, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd save some for you but well...

I mean, I’m going that way as opposed to you coming this way! I don’t relish going through customs with some old turkey and moldy stuffing!

You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.

by Ninjames on Nov 26, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks London

and Ninjames is right… most meaningful indeed

by Drew K on Nov 26, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Thanksgiving to the Niners Nation family

Jordy Nelson just fumbled the kickoff for Green Bay.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Nov 26, 2009 9:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tradition

The Lions have become as much a part of Thanksgiving as turkey. Come to think of it, the similarity doesn’t stop there.

We'll see them again in the playoffs! What channel is it on?

by silverjay on Nov 26, 2009 9:43 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

LOL

Rec’d

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Nov 26, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the post

As a student of history and a fan of the game, I always appreciate useless bits of inconsequential knowledge that when I may repeat either later today or at some point in the future people scoff at (either out of jealousy or ridicule).

No seriously, thank you.

As for the addition of a third game that rotates, I say why not? There are enough fans, west coast or east coast ( or in between i guess) that are up and wanting to watch an additional game, and it’s nice when it’s not either the Lions or the Cowboys.

Happy Turkey Day!

Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!

by bonbrillio on Nov 26, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for the kind words regarding the article. I’m also a history student so it was a nice change of pace for me. Now we all know more than we probably ever wanted to about Lions football and Thanksgiving.

by Josh Branco on Nov 26, 2009 10:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Thanksgiving, folks.

Just realized I didn’t put that anywhere in my Nuggets for today. It’s lookin’ to be a crappy one over at my place, but here’s to hoping you all have a good ’un!

You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.

by Ninjames on Nov 26, 2009 10:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Happy Thanksgiving all my fellow Niners Nation bloggers

and thanks to all you guys that keep the site going, I’m definitely thankful for having such an awesome blog to help me keep up with my favorite team across the US.

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 26, 2009 10:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

forgot to mention

WHY IS THIS POST HERE NO ONE CARES!!!

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Nov 26, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for reading Lou!

by Josh Branco on Nov 26, 2009 10:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Who are you rooting for?

I’m pulling for the Lions in this first game. They are the underdog and a Packers loss will help SF get back into the playoff picture. It looks like they might even have a chance if they can stop the Packers offense.

by Josh Branco on Nov 26, 2009 10:27 AM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I'm rooting for the Lions

Mostly because Stafford got a whole lot of respect from me Sunday against the Browns in those final two plays.

You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.

by Ninjames on Nov 26, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was really impressive of him

What sucks is that everything I read seemed to indicate that neither Johnson nor Stafford would play today. I set my lineup last night without Calvin Johnson. This morning we get up and head to the wife’s parents for Thanksgiving.

When we turn on the game lo and behold both Stafford and Johnson are playing.

by smileyman on Nov 26, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Biggest meal on thanksgiving Turkey, second biggest Lion :-)

As Josh noted a loss by the Packers would be good for the 9ers. Don’t see the chances of that happening with Stafford probably taking the day off to nurse his shoulder. But we can only hope that it turns out.

Josh who were the two teams that moved over from the National Football League of the 1902 to the current NFL? That is kind of interesting in it’s own right. The other day I was listening to Gil Brandt on the radio and he denoted that for a while the thanksgiving games actually ended up making more money for the teams on that day then they made during the whole season in other games.

Also on NFL Live it was noted by some former players how the extra days of rest after were much appreciated (I.E.: They gave thanks for that.)

Happy Thanksgiving and start of the holiday season to everyone.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Nov 26, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The two teams that moved to the NFL in 1920 were the Buffalo Niagaras/Prospects and the Rochester Jeffersons.

Also, the extra rest you mentioned is part of the reason some teams find the current set up unfair. It’s almost like the Lions and Cowboys get two bye weeks each year.

by Josh Branco on Nov 26, 2009 10:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Thanksgiving

To all ninersnation. Now with that said time to grub down and drink up.

by 49ersAllTheWay on Nov 26, 2009 10:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanksgiving advantage?

I don’t see an advantage, or at least any more than any other team playing on a Thursday. It’s not like they’re getting an extra home game or anything.

by Fooch on Nov 26, 2009 11:09 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Personally I think it would have been more of an advantage before every team was on national tv. The extra revenue probably helped, especially with no salary cap. Really though I think other teams just want any excuse to get some more national exposure/brand recognition.

by Josh Branco on Nov 26, 2009 11:17 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Nov 26, 2009 11:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The second game looks like it will be another blow out:/ Time for a nap?

by Josh Branco on Nov 26, 2009 2:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

everything i ever said

about not wanting brandon marshall on the 9ers was wrong and stupid. this guy is making some amazing catches.

by pwarren85 on Nov 26, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

texas

tre newton in our future?

by swagger on Nov 26, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Somehow I made 4 different bets on the games today and won all of them

130 bucks, that was pretty cool. Now if only I could keep being this lucky….

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 27, 2009 1:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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