Does Clausen Leaving ND Mean Anything To The 49ers Plans?
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 27, 2009 1:42 PM PST
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As many of you know i am a huge fan of Jimmy Clausen and think that he may be the only early round QB worth selecting. Now that it is pretty evident that Charlie Weiss will be fired it also appears that Clausen a long with Golden Tate will enter the 2010 NFL Draft Link . Does this change the 49ers draft plans?
I am not sure of the answer. It isn't set in stone that Alex Smith is a bust, as he has continued to improve. We also have Nate Davis on the roster who is a huge wild card with top level talent. Do we have bigger needs then QB? Yes. Will Jimmy Clausen be there when we draft? I doubt it. Should we look into trading up for him? Not too sure of that. But considering just two weeks ago it seemed Clausen was all but assured to stay at Notre Dame this change is important at least in terms of the NFL prospect shake up. In my opinion he immediately becomes the #1 QB available and possibly the #1 player in the 2010 draft. But for some reason i think that front offices favor other QB's ahead of him such as Sam Bradford and Jake Locker (if he comes out) . So this could mean that Clausen may fall to us depending on our draft slot. If Alex Smith isn't the answer the 49ers will have to acquire a starting QB for the 2010 season and the options in free agency as well as trades are limited. Also in my opinion Nate Davis is nowhere near ready. I am interested to see what NN thinks about Clausen, the chance we take him and out QB situation going forward. I understand that there are other threads regarding our QB situation and the 2010 off-season as a whole but i want to limit this conversation to Clausen and weather or not you like him as our QB. Or at least to the 2010 QB draft class
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Huge the 49ers
I’m all for the Rams trotting out another awful QB the next 4 years. I’m glad we won’t be close enough to pick another crappy ND QB. ND fans . . . the 70’s are over. Want to see a modern ND QB, his name is Brady Quinn and he was better than Clausen.
How Was Quinn Better Then Clausen??
Claussen in 2009: 67.3 Pct- 3,382 Yards- 23TD- 4INT IN 10+ Games
Quinn’s Senior Season: 61.9 Pct-3,426 Yards- 37TD- 7INT IN 3 GAMES
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Pardon me for questioning this but 37 TD’s and 7 Int in 3 games..something doesn sound right here
Judgment day is coming!
Yeah 37 TDs in 3 games = ???
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Nov 29, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
correction
Quinn’s numbers were through 13 games.
by David Fucillo on Nov 28, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
If we HAVE to draft a QB
I’d take a Mallett, LeFevour, or a Pike in the middle-ish rounds and develop him under a veteran like Chad Pennington for a year or two.
I do Like That Idea
If Mallett is available in the 4th round or later we have to grab him
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Only 5th round or later
He looked horrible against LSU today. With the lack of time he gets on the Niners he would be a nightmare
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
He'll be compared to Joe Flacco and if he declares he may be this year's Josh Freeman.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Nov 29, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
Doesn’t had the accuracy either of them had yet. With another year I think he might be a better prospect than either of them though.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 30, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Did you watch the USC game?
Just one of many. What are you watching? And besides, he looks mechanical and slow in his delivery.
Jason Hill supporter 'til the end
WOW
How many 4th quarter comebacks has he engineered this season? 4 or 5 by my account.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Ouch Burn
Clausen is maybe the 3rd best QB available. Bradford WOULD be #1 except for the shoulder issues… And Locker is a stud. I would take Clausen no higher than our 2nd round pick.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Thats just for the niners
He’s better than a 2nd rounder for a team that needs a QB but not with our needs
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Did you watch the USC game?
The WR slipped.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Nov 29, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Forget his mechanics
Did you see that shiner from the bar fight. It was pretty dark. He isn’t a responsible player or leader, he also had a drinking confrontation early in his career.
"Optimist Prime"
"CHILD PLEASE"......................-E. Ochocinco
Yes 10fortech, Crabtree can block, should the two drops question other things? I know none of those passes came down like a punt!!!
I can't vote on that poll
The option that I would choose isn’t there. Clausen will go too high and I would not trade up for him.
However, I do think in the 2nd or 3rd we should go after a QB. There are far too many holes to address before QB right now. Alex Smith should get another year in 2010 unless he completely flops the last 6 games or gets injured again.
Exactly Drew
You can’t really judge Smith until he averages more 3 seconds of protection per sack… Which will probably drop his sack numbers into the mid-low 20s which is fair to judge a QB by. Rodgers (according to an article I can’t find anymore that some dude on JustinTv linked me to), gets 3.1 seconds per sack Alex only 2.5. You can’t really do much with 2.5 seconds of protection. With that average… it takes about .75 seconds to get into a 3 step drop, then Alex has appx. 1 more second to go through his reads and will more than likely be getting hit as he throws if his motion and release takes over .5 seconds. No QB in history could be successful like that.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
If we draft a QB in the first round
I’ll be pissed. We have much more serious issues to fix first. I think Smith is doing fine right now and will probably be our starter next year barring a complete melt down. If at the end of 2010 we have a good line and he’s still not performing we can get a QB in the 1st round then.
SCOT, PLEASE PLEASE
Draft a solid Offensive Line before getting a QB (I’d like a tackle with the top pick. Maybe a good guard with a 2nd/3rd rounder).
The way I see it, the dropoff between Alex Smith/Nate Davis and a top rookie is nowhere near the dropoff between Adam Snyder and a competent college tackle.
Jimmy Clausen is going to suck if he’s got 300 pound men running after him all the time.
AGREED but....
I would happily take Mays or Berry if available and use the 2nd 1st rounder on an O-Line.
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
Is saftey that big an issue?
I honestly don’t know how the Safety situation is. I mean, it was pretty sad to see Goldson completely whiff that tackle on the TD catch, but are we that bad at safety?
(Cue the Mark Roman jokes, I guess)
how many Mark Romans does it take to change a light bulb?
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Maybe 3...
One to point to it, another getting burned by touching it, and another getting lit up by it because it still worked.
Well, we're waiting....
Hell yeah it's a big issue
Just as well as pass rusher, I am tired of seeing the Niners in the back 10 in pass defense.
"Optimist Prime"
Haden and Berry 1st round?
Not very good at safety...
My thought would be move Clements to safety and draft a cornerback, actually. I’m not completely sold on Mays or Berry, besides which, there’s also a need for an elite pass rusher. If the 49ers had that, the safeties would get exposed a lot less.
Agreed
But i do believe the 49ers will release Clements in the off-season, the cap hit won’t be that great. I wouldn’t mind going with Spencer and Brown as the two starting corners, signing Atogwe and moving Goldson to Strong Safety. At that point we can draft Joe Haden in the 1st and re-sign Walt Harris to back-up at the safety position. This would also allow us to draft a pass rusher with our other 1st round pick be it Hardy, Dunlap, Selvie etc…
This secondary looks good to me
CB- Shawntae Spencer
CB- Tarell Brown
NB- Joe Haden
SS- Dason Goldson
FS- OJ Atogwe
NS- Walt Harris
Any opinions?
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Brown is a bad option as a starting corner, e can't contain his edge in the run game
Sing likes Clements a lot, I’d be shocked to see him let go, but it would be the financial move to make, although trading him would be the answer he can still start for half the teams in the league.
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
It would be easier to draft a coverage safety than an ELITE pass rusher
I wanted one last year and thought I seen 3 and actually seen 0.
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
Yes, it’s much easier! Just look at all the 1st round safeties drafted this decade. The vast majority have gone on to become studs. Just watch the Jaguars this weekend to see what happens when the team goes for pass rushers. The Jags spent two 1st round picks on pass rushers in one draft and are easily the worst pass rushing team in the league.
Tarrell Brown...
has looked so bad at corner that a used-up Dre Bly now has his job. I doubt that Walt Harris has enough time left to make it all the way back from the knee surgery. He’s what? 37? That’s about 100 in defensive back years. There are things that Clements actually does fairly well. The secondary has looked worse without him. If the 49ers could get him to take less money, I would hope they’d keep him. Other than that, not bad.
Brown Has The Skillset To Be A Starting Corner
but his in inexperienced. That is one position where experience really does matter. Give him time and he will be a solid cornerback for us. Regarding Walt Harris, you are right regarding his injuries, that’s why i am talking about moving him to safety in a back up role. Older cornerbacks with history of injuries have fared well moving to safety. Cory Chavous and Rod Woodson come to mind.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure Walt Harris was ever...
as fast as those guys. He was always effective because he was very technically sound, rather than by dazzling anybody with his athleticism. If he loses a step because his knee is shot, he might get too slow to be useful. Maybe you could feed him some steroids and let him replace Spikes at ILB… :} I’ll reserve judgement on Tarrell Brown if you insist, but can you imagine Deion Sanders or Champ Bailey or Charles Woodson, etc. losing his starting job to a guy like Bly, even as a rookie?
He's no Chavous or Woodson
Walt Harris can be let go before Clements
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
Assuming Bulaga comes out,
which from what I’ve read is sadly not a guarantee as he might go top 10 next year, he is probably the second most purely talented guy at OT in the draft. Lets hope he learns from Sam Bradford’s mistake and joins a Niners organization that wants to pay him handsomely!
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone elgible would want to leave now before the new agreement bangs the slot money down in the hole.
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
Yes...
Is that guaranteed to happen after next year?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 29, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
After about 4 more game let the 49ers cut Hill and sign Rhett Bomar from the Giants PS.
That would give the 49ers a QB setup of Alex Smith, 2nd year Nate Davis and Rhett Bomar. I could live with those three.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
He is listed on their practice squad still
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Where did you check
cause I am pretty sure I have seen him suited up. Maybe it was just when Eli was hurt but I am not sure what the rules are about bringing guys up and sending them back down.
Why cut Shaun?
Is he too expensive?
I think he fits the backup QB role perfectly. Good enough to avoid disaster, but not nearly good enough for another team to take him as a starter.
If Alex Smith hasn’t made a complete case for himself by season’s end, I’m going to be on the QB train for FA/Draft 2010.
What that means, which guy I want, what round I want him, and what I’m willing to do to get him will all be determined later. After we know about Smith and have more available scouting on the rest of the options.
That pretty much sums up my answer for any questions like this that come up right now. As of today, the options are either “Yes, get a QB” or “No, don’t do it.” The option it ends up being is up to Smith, and the way that it ends up playing out in terms of specifics is so far up in the air at this extremely early stage that I’m not even going to make an attempt at speculation.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
No to FA QB's there aren't any reliable enough
Unless Orton is not kept by the Broncos
"Optimist Prime"
Haden and Berry 1st round?
Again I Agree
Alex Smith is a better option then every single FA/Trade option with the possible exception of Kyle Orton and i am not too entirely sure i would rather have him over Smith. Unless something comes out of left field like Matt Leinart or Vince Young then Alex Smith will be our starting QB come opening day 2010.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Why would you take Leinart?
The guy got dropped into a great situation and won’t even keep himself prepared enough to take over when Warner, (who isn’t what he once was), needs a capable fill in for a week or two.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Okay
I am not promoting the 49ers drafting Jimmy Claussen although i do think he will be an all-pro QB in the NFL. Too many factors come into play in order for the 49ers to draft him
1. We have larger needs in the 1st round then QB
2. He won’t be available with our pick
3. We already have 3 QB’s on the roster and unless we carry 4 it’s hard to imagine us drafting a QB that high
4. I am 100 percent against trading up in the draft for any player. Simply because of the needs we have and the depth of the draft class
5. We can get a nice QB in the middle rounds and even possibly hide them on the PS squad.
But i don’t get all the Jimmy Claussen hating that is going on here. He has all the skills to succeed in the NFL and will be a very good pro QB
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions
Same with Brady Quinn and Rick Mirer
As a ND fan you shouldn’t be promising an NFL QB again until ND actually delivers an NFL QB again. You might not have been born the last time ND created an NFL QB. Clausen won’t be playing Army and Navy in any more.
The last truly great pro-QB from ND...
That comes to mind was Joe Montana. After that, you had Rick Meyer and then Brady Quinn…
What Did He Do Against USC?
I will answer that for you
24/43-260 Yards- 2TD- 0INT
What about at the big house
25/42-336 Yards- 3TD- 0INT
That is nearly 600 Yards with 5TD and 0INTs and guess what? They weren’t playing Army or Navy
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Under that criteria Oregon QB’s Dennis Dixon and Jeremiah Masoli ought to be higher picks than anything ND has produced. Just because ND can occasionally find a competent college QB doesn’t qualify that QB as the automatic #1 pick in the NFL draft. Which seems to be M.O. of ND fans, yet here we go again . . .
That Was In Response
to the point someone was attempting to make about Claussen not playing Navy or Army in the NFL.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
The school a QB attended is not really important.
What counts is can he produce in the NFL. Michigan has produced exactly one top-notch QB: Tom Brady. Jim Harbaugh and Elvis Grbac are from Michigan, but they were nothing special. Was Brady passed over because of the school he attended? If he had gone to USC would he have been drafted sooner?
Do needs really matter?
WR was not our BIGGEST NEED but we took crabs and the peanut gallery went nuts, so if a potentially great player falls to us do we have to go OL first? No, because this time around we have 2 1st round picks
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
by rlott#42 on Nov 28, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
With two 1st round picks we do have the ability to take the BPA. If Clausen falls to the teens then it’s obvious he would be the best player available. Then do we take him? If they are going with the BPA theory then yes we do.
Regarding Crabtree, well that was pretty much a no brain selection. Wouldn’t you agree? Yes Oher was available and would have been a good pick, but not in terms of value. Where did he end up going? To Baltimore in the late 20’s right? I heard rumors that the 49ers had Crabtree as the #1 overall player on their board. If that is true then to get him at #10 was an absolute steak. Has he done anything yet to prove otherwise.
Off subject
Michael Crabtree 22 Receptions 292 Yards TD 5 Games
Darious Hayword-Bay 9 Receptions 124 Yards TD 11 Games
Percy Harvin 36 Receptions 501 Yards 4TD 10 Games
Jeremy Maclin 37 Receptions 477 Yards 4TD 10 Games
Lets be honest for a second. The selection of Michael Crabtree was great!!!!!!
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Here's video to support your argument:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d810305ad/Singletary-on-set
Mike Singletary:
…we gotta take Crabtree and obviously I knew that.
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...can block
by 10forTech on Nov 28, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 Love Your Sig
Crabtree can do pretty much anything. Now its up to Smith to deliver the ball and allow him to spread the field. That happened on occasion against Green Bay.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Funny how we can agree at the bottom of the page and disagree at the top :-)
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...can block
The selection of MC has yet to be called great IMO
He signed and how many games have we won. Are we losing due to th eoffensive struggles? Well I think OL and an extra 2nd would have been a better TEAM move, not taking anything from Crabtree, but I don’t think he will have two contracts as a Niner!
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
Hey we do have 2 1st rounders
It leaves us in a different position than last season, meaning we can draft BPA and still address a more pressing need in OL. If these picks are close I don’t expect our first pick to go to OL.
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
BPA available
I’m all for it. But IMO that BPA steal will be someone that happens to slip into the 20s that has 5-10 talent.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
what if we don't have a pick in the 20's?
Besides a steal can happen 5-15 depending on who is passed on and if teams are drafting Needs or BPA
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
You know I want to move down with our picks and try to acquire a 3rd in that area. Its a difficult and unlikely move but one that I think would set us up for years. There is so much talent that will go between 15 to 25
Earl Thomas (Safety, Texas) will likely fall there and can help upgrade our secondary if we can somehow move additional picks, gained from moving our top 2 picks down, to acquire a third 1st rounder in that 23-27 range.
OT Bulaga or Brown – would perfer Bulaga though if he comes out
BPA — (I still think it will be Dez Bryant)
S Earl Thomas
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Dez Bryant disvalues players we already have
If we did acquire 3 late first rounders we still wouldn’t select a WR. We will not be picking WR this upcoming draft in the 1st, It won’t happen. If we did have those picks, and it isn’t a bad idea, we would grab a RB or Ol if we used it on the offensive side of the ball.
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
Well I would
“settle” for Jerry Hughes at one of our picks… But I think he’ll be long gone. I do love me some TCU d-fence
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
As far a running back...
Whats your view on Gerhart… I like the local Stanford angle on it and having a bruising runner BESIDES Gore who is excellent in pass protection sounds appealing
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think he's overrated
He’s a phenomenal college player but he won’t be anything more than a decent NFL guy. He’s not very fast and he won’t make anyone miss or offer anything in the passing game. I think I’d start considering him in the 3rd or 4th round.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 30, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
Read some draft forums and stuff
Some people think he should be a first round pick.
by Brendan Scolari on Dec 1, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
I think he should be the Heisman winner without a lot of question. Beyond that, I have no idea….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2009 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
Anyone Want To Question Clausen Now?
23/30-340 Yards- 5TD- 0INT against Stanford. Yeah we lost but that’s because our fat f.!!! head coach decided to run on 3rd and 3 instead of passing with a QB that has thrown for 3800 yards with 29TD and 4INT this season. What an idiot.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Nov 28, 2009 8:38 PM PST reply actions
How did he manage to keep his job so long?
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
Not really
More known for their Heisman candidate running back Toby Gerhart. Did Clausen get out there and stop him too? Oops guess he couldn’t do that.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
Also that was more on Golden Tate
who played amazing. Another of those Clausen TD’s came on a trick play with him playing WR.
Another thing… I would love to stay local and grab Gerhart if he falls to the 2nd round… He absolute embarrassed whoever was unfortunate enough to be wearing #4 tonight when he did his best Adrian Peterson impression and just folded him up.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Fb in the 2nd?
That’s what he will be in the league, and I don’t think it will be a bad pick, except for the Niners, our 2nd round will be best Guard available IMO.
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
I asked above a second ago
Looks like you already got to it down here. Thanks. I was thinking fullback and would be a hell of an upgrade over what we have now.
The guard in the second honestly I can’t disagree or agree with as I know practically nothing about any of the guards coming into the draft. I don’t even know anything about the FSU guy you’re all about and I tried looking for him during the Florida game.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 28, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Another FB
Im wondering about Wisconsins John Clay Myself. I believe he’s a draft eligible sophomore, and is an absolute bruiser, and i think he weighs around 250 at least. he would make a heckuva fullback, i just dont know whether he’d try to come out this year, or return to wisconsin for another year, ive heard rumors either way
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
To answer the question atop the Post
It will do wonders having another top tier college Qb in the draft of the top 5, especially since the more QB’s taken before our pick gives us better chances to get BERRY.
"Optimist Prime"
Yes 10fortech I am still pissed the crabtree pick wasn't traded!!
This
is the best thing ive seen written on this post so far :)
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
What has Berry done this year to make you think he deserves to go in the top 5?
Just wondering, I haven’t been all that impressed when I’ve seen him. He certainly hasn’t been a big playmaker this year and he doesn’t look that good to me in run support.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 30, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
Something to think about...
Shouldn’t a 1st-Round QB be beloved by his own fans? Not getting “coldcocked”…
Never use a big word where a diminutive alternative would suffice.
All our players should be loved (on a fan level)
But that would deny us being human.
"Optimist Prime"
"CHILD PLEASE"......................-E. Ochocinco
Yes 10fortech, Crabtree can block, should the two drops question other things? I know none of those passes came down like a punt!!!
OLine
Not going to help much if we cannot run the ball or keep any QB upright. So let’s address major needs and then work from there. Nate Davis is a buyable future and he has experience by watching from the sidelines. Putting in a rookie means we are rebuilding.
Let's get the division!
Draft Selections
If the 49ers draft athletes that are the best at what they do, then their positions will not matter.
How does he relate to his teammates and how do his teammates work with him? That is more important than an all-world arm and athletic ability(not to say they don’t matter). I think that Singletary has the intellectual capability to diagnose Clausen’s talents before he steps on the field.
Clausen - I'm a big fan, but...
We have qb talent on the roster that we can win games….and possibly championships with. Our issue is we need offensive line help so that we can run or pass as we need to. Pressure in the backfield leads to turnovers…whether by qb or rb. Or the qb gets so beat up (see Bulger) that they get gun shy. We need safety and OLB help, and there’s some good ones in the draft.
I’m a big ND fan and think Clausen is the real deal. We just have other needs. We all know that if you draft Clausen, and Smith has a bad game or 2, then the fickle among us will start screaming for the rook. Next thing you know…we’re back to being a sub 500 team that still has holes at OL, OLB and Safety with people still trying to blame it on the qb.
We need to maintain some consistency…at qb and with the offensive scheme/coordinator. We have other needs in the draft and/or free agency.
Clausen-Overrated
Clausen is so overrated,because he has guys like Golden Tate,Michael Floyd,and Robby Parris that makes him look good.
or is it the other way around?
maybe Clausen makes them look good? Hmm me personally i dont want to even think about qb’s in the 1st or 2nd round. we have to many needs OL, CB, S, DE/OLB. My early draft favorites include CB-Joe Haden, S-Eric Berry, OT-Bryan Bulaga, LB-Rolando McClain, DT-Terrence Cody. In he 2nd round people like DE-Jerry Hughes, OT- Trent Williams, CB- Trevard Lindley. If we have any of these as draft day picks i will salivate at the possibilities next year with a great D and a solid line. heres hoping for that.
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