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49ers-Titans: Alex Smith vs. Vince Young

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2005 and 2006 saw Alex Smith and Vince Young drafted #1 and #3 overall respectively.  In the time since those lofty draft selections, things have not exactly gone according to plan for either player.  Both players seemed to show improvement from year 1 to year 2 Alex Smith showed improvement in year 2, while Vince Young was a bit of a mixed bag that second year.  However, for both QBs, their stock quickly plummeted immediately thereafter.  Alex Smith was injured midway through the 2007 season and is just now healthy and starting again.  After a very solid start to his career, Vince Young seemed to be turning into a bit of a head case.  While the 49ers franchise has struggled mightily along with Smith, the Titans built an impressive 13-3 season with the aged wonder Kerry Collins at the helm.

So now we sit here in 2009 with the top QBs taken in 2005 and 2006 getting a chance to square off.  This is one of many interesting matchups for Smith who will also get to square off against fellow 2005 first round pick Aaron Rodgers in a couple weeks.  At the beginning of this season how many people expected these various matchups to take place?  Smith vs. Young or Smith vs. Rodgers?  It's a completely different world eight weeks into the season.

Vince Young
Yesterday we discussed the importance of the battle between Chris Johnson and the 49ers rushing defense.  If the 49ers defense is able to continue its success against the run, that would put the Titans offense squarely on the shoulders of Vince Young.  Last week against Jacksonville, Young was 15/18 for 125 yards and 1 touchdown, while rushing 12 times for 30 yards.  Not too shabby, but it was against a crappy Jaguars team, and the offense was really carried by Chris Johnson.

We go into Vince Young's abilities, and also that of Alex Smith after the jump...

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So two questions have to be considered in assessing Vince Young.  First, will he be given a chance to do a bit more with the offense, or will the Titans run Chris Johnson into the ground and avoid giving too much free reign to Young?  I asked Jimmy over at Music City Miracles, so we'll see what he has to say.

The second issue with Young is his mobility.  While his passing may always remain questionable, the mobility is certainly still a huge asset for him.  What should the 49ers do to contain the scrambling?  Does Patrick Willis spy in on him?  Another option would be to play Michael Lewis a bit closer than normal and let him spy Willis.  Lewis is primarily a run-stopper anyways, so having him closer to the line wouldn't be the end of the world.

Alex Smith
On the other side of the field we've got our own Alex Smith.  If you check out yesterday's Jimmy Raye transcript, you'll notice all sorts of discussion about the use of the spread offense and mixing in more shotgun.  Jimmy Raye even points to comments about how much it was used when Smith was at Utah.  Maybe Jimmy's been reading NN.

It's safe to say at this point that the 49ers are probably giving more free reign to Smith than the Titans are to Vince Young.  Smith has more receiving weapons than Young and seems to be slowly working them into the mix.  I'd argue Michael Crabtree is better than any receiving option on the Titans, and probably not get a lot of lip back.  As Smith continues to develop better rapport with Crabtree, and with all the receivers, the passing offense will hopefully improve (in spite of offensive line struggles).

I am curious who people think will perform better, but it might not be the easiest comparison to make.  Alex Smith could outperform Young but be on the losing end of things because of a big Chris Johnson performance.  If the 49ers do win I think it will come in no small part because of Smith's performance.

So feel free to throw some comparison predictions between the two (still) young QBs.  

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Sunday’s Stats: Alex smith 19/28 248 yards 2 TD 1 Int. Vince Young 15/25 194 Yards 1 TD 2 Int. Niners win 27-17

by Estes on Nov 6, 2009 8:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Weapons of mass production

We’re going to hold you to that Estes!

I don’t think there’s any doubt, Smith has the better end of the stick. It’s no fluke that the Niners are 2nd in the league against the run. For the most part they should be able to contain Johnson. So the majority of the success or failure rests on the QB’s. Raye/Singletary in a quiet way should likely end up playing more and more to Smith’s strengths and spread out the offense. With the weapons Smith has, it’s got to make for a much more productive performance be it in the air or the ground. Hopefully like the defense, it will come to a point where the opposition will have a very difficult time knowing what’s coming at them. Hopefully this will happens sooner than later! VY can’t be as productive with an offense that has significantly less dimensions.

by Mangoman1 on Nov 6, 2009 9:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Eh?
Both players seemed to show improvement from year 1 to year 2

Vince’s production dropped off his second year, and that is the year that most point to as why he won’t be successful.

It’s anybody’s guess what happens with Young this game. The sample size is so small since studying behind Kerry that it’s hard to know what to expect. That said, I think we’ll see a simple game plan again this game with a heavy dose of CJ.

14-20 175 Yards 0 TD 0 INT, 6 rushes for 35 yards, 0 TDs 0 fumbles

by SuperHorn on Nov 6, 2009 10:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Vince Young

Year 1 to year 2 is interesting. TD’s went down, INTs went up, completion percentage went up, yards went up, passer rating went up. I can only vaguely remember that far back at this point.

by Fooch on Nov 6, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was also a different Offensive Coordinator...

…and the team was substantially interesting in keeping VY in the pocket in order to improve his long-term viability. But this didn’t play to his strenghts—for better or worse.

This year, long-term viability is MUCH less of a concern, which in turn results in a much higher number of called run or genuine run/pass options called. Bottom line: The Titans brass would rather finish 9-7 or 8-8 and with VY on IR than 6-10 with VY ready for another season.

DannoE

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

by DannoE on Nov 6, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

adjusted

I made an adjustment to that sentence, although it might not be perfect.

by Fooch on Nov 6, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Spread the D

i think i said this waaaayyy back in september/october… now you all finally know what i am talking about geeezzzz

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"

by Bo$$Ixta! on Nov 6, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It just makes too much sense doesn’t it?? Maybe that’s why the Niners aren’t doing it much right now. When it makes too much sense it doesn’t make sense at all apparently.

by Mangoman1 on Nov 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

its like....

you have to know what you dont know, and if you dont know, well now you know

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"

by Bo$$Ixta! on Nov 6, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alex Smith reminds me of Joe Montana

Did that get your attention? Good. Let me clarify – I am not talking about their football ability. I am not talking about their football ability. I am not talking about their football ability.

I am talking about a slight physical resemblance when they have their helmets on. It’s something to do with the nose structure, which is quite prominent underneath their helmets. It occurred to me during the Indy game. I thought I was a teenager again in the 80s, apart from the fact he wasn’t playing like Joe.

Am I wrong? Look out for it during the Titans game.

"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...

by LondonNiner on Nov 6, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

So what you’re saying is, you’re referring to their looks, not their actual playing ability. . .:)

You did bring back some memories though.

by Mangoman1 on Nov 6, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA

yeah somewhat… good eye

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"

by Bo$$Ixta! on Nov 6, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm...

Smith needs to grow that ’stache though.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Nov 6, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great pic ... love that jersey as well as the 'stache

"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...

by LondonNiner on Nov 6, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Smith's...

… got nothing on that cleft chin.

by sfgfan on Nov 6, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How 'bout a 'goatee'?

Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball

by 10forTech on Nov 7, 2009 12:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not too shabby, but it was against a crappy Jaguars team

Come on Fooch. You’re better than that.
We shouldn’t be calling other teams “crappy”.
(especially not teams that we will be facing later on in the season)

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Nov 6, 2009 5:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It is true though

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 6, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been doing it all year. Still, I didn’t think the NFL could produce 8 even crappier teams.

by bignerd on Nov 6, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs


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