Alex Smith Sucks.
I can't even stand to watch him play anymore. As soon as the game gets close you just know he is going to somehow give the game away. During the game today i turned to my girlfriend and said Smith is going to throw an interception. (because being a long time niners fan i know how bad he sucks under pressure.) and then bam interception. the same thing happened on the next possession. I don't understand how any fans still like him or even think he is good. He is only good when there is no pressure on him.
The only solution i can think of would be to have a Quarter Back rotation. Which is very unlikely to happen in the NFL. For example, as long as the game is tied or we are winning keep shaun Hill in because he pretty much does not turn the ball over. And if we need some big plays insert smith in there cus he has the great arm, and as long as there is no pressure on him he will succeed.
I know that is very unlikely to happen, but its just an idea considering alex smith sucks balls.
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Im not going blame smith on everything and rotating qbs is the dumbest thing you could do. The teams not there yet but we are close
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 8, 2009 4:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
really?
we are close when are QB can’t finish a game? thats not close. its just not giving us a chance to win. and i know the rotating QB’s isnt realistic but we need to make something happen. Smith needs to be cut. and he can shave that homo mustache while hes at it
Chuck Norris has only lost in one thing. 1 on 1 with Monta.
by theoloukos on Nov 8, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and let the overreacting begin....
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 8, 2009 4:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
over-reacting
Would’ve liked to have found a better one, but this will do.

by Fooch on Nov 8, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rotating QBs
Can you find an example of QB rotation that has ever worked in the NFL?
by Fooch on Nov 8, 2009 4:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Leinart/Warner
Kind of worked (a couple years back)?
by mountaindew77 on Nov 8, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Until one of them got hurt.
Can’t remember who
by mountaindew77 on Nov 8, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Leinart got hurt
It happened in 2007.
by Rocky63215 on Nov 8, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Warner just threw 5 int's last week
With a better O-line and WR core, so WTF?
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Leinart...
He made Alex Smith look like the MVP of the league. Leinart sucks. My buddy here who’s a Cardinals fan said during the game, “well, one more good run at it…then we’re screwed with Leinart”.
Did anyone see him play? Horrible is an understatement…
by Drew K on Nov 8, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He had both good and bad moments.
His accuracy wasn’t bad during the 1st half – he threaded a needle on that seam pass to VD and his TD throw to J. Hill was all Smith improvisation after a busted play. One of his fumbles was due to his hand hitting a helmet and his first INT was due to a tipped ball. Again, not his fault. So he wasn’t all bad.
But the bad old Alex Smith showed up in the second half when the game got close and the pressure was on. He stared down J. Morgan for the critical interception with 3:00 left in the 4th, and that was the end of the game. The next one was again typical of the old Alex Smith. I’ll say it again – Alex Smith loses accuracy and stops thinking when under pressure. He hasn’t fixed this problem yet and frankly, I don’t believe he ever will.
Rotating QBs is not a good idea. It looks like McClo is determined to give Smith another extended chance in a futile attempt to prove Smith isn’t a massive bust and he didn’t blow a #1 overall draft pick. The season is over as far as the playoffs are concerned, so I am for leaving Smith as QB the rest of the season so everyone, including McCloughan, can see that he isn’t starting NFL QB material.
by MontanaPass on Nov 8, 2009 5:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
call me a kool aid drinker
but the season isn’t over.
The cardinals are one injury away from Matt Leinart starting, and who knows how well he will do. Even if Warner stays healthy, the Cards might continue to be inconsistent. The other 2 NFC West teams are going to have a very difficult time winning the division.
The toughest part of the 49er schedule is gone. Is this a reason the 49ers will make the playoffs? No. But the season is far from over.
by brundylop on Nov 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
he stared down whoever his 2nd int was thrown to. He didn’t stare down Morgan on the 3rd Int. It was a blatant PI that went uncalled, and even then, Morgan should have had it. It was a chest level pass that bounced off his hands into the hands of TEN’s safety.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
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--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith stared him down and the INT was the result.
He locked in on Morgan and the CB read his eyes and closed. Morgan still should have had it, but it was Smith who blew that play. If he had looked off the CB even a little, Morgan would have had a chance at a clean catch. That’s something a good QB does consistently, and Smith was doing it earlier in the game. But like I said, when he’s under pressure he stops thinking and throws badly.
It was the 3rd INT where he looked away but the ball was tipped again.
by MontanaPass on Nov 8, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was the safety that read the play, when you lock in on targets the safety is the player you don't see, or a LB.
Morgan was not at fault period on that play. It’s easy to say he should have had it, have you ever played football aside from around the neighborhood? And on the 3rd INt he delivered the ball too damn high as he usually does. And every pass doesn’t have to be a rocket. If he is gonna look away he needs to get route timing down better and stop dropping back so far, so quick. Please please audible or call a timeout when an 8 man blitzz is coming up the middle, I seen that was gonna happen when he wqas sacked immediately
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
omg
seriously, watch it again. A) It was PI. B) It should have been caught regardless. C) It was chest-level.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it was a tough catch.
We can argue about whether Morgan should have made the catch, but it wouldn’t have been necessary if Smith hadn’t locked in on him. Smith blew the play, Morgan only missed the opportunity to be a hero and save the play.
by MontanaPass on Nov 8, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so...
exactly what i said?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
Most people have observed that when Smith is under pressure he stops over-thinking and plays better.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break
Yeah I totally agree that when perfectly catchable throws bounce off receivers hands and are intercepted that the blame should be on Smith. And , of course, Jason Hill should go back to inactive status as well!
by clair channel fan on Nov 8, 2009 5:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
poll
Start Nate Davis
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball
by 10forTech on Nov 8, 2009 5:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The QB of San Frans future is not currently on your roster.
I got crucified for saying that after the Texans game of course, but it’s the correct call.
Draft a young guy, Bring in an experienced QB for him to learn behind for a year and you’re good.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Who sould be the experienced guy brought in?
by Rocky63215 on Nov 8, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly? I would blow the cash and get Brett Favre if you can....
Ya everyone hates him now, but can you think of a better guy for a young player to learn behind for a year?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Nov 8, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the bigger problem today was Gary Kubiak coached the 49ers in the 2nd half. Seriously, how did we let the Titans beat us without having to turn to Vince Young?
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Im sorry did you just say bring in Farve? Are you (site decorum) kidding me? We all hate that sob.
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 8, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We all do. But he is good, damn good. I'm not suggesting you like him, he would just be a great teacher for a new guy for a year.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Nov 9, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If i recall
He didnt even teach Rodgers. I remember reading something that Favre told Rodgers that he didnt have time to teach him.
by sundaysfinest on Nov 9, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly right...
That “mentoring” noise is some of the worst B.S. in sports. I don’t understand why people think that. The starter doesn’t want to surrender his job most of the time. No way do established guys try very hard to help promising rookies who play their position, except maybe in the rare case where they’ve already decided to retire.
by asleepinSF on Nov 9, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure didn't happen in SF
Joe Montana and Steve Young still barely talk to each other.
Not a great deal of love between those two.
by smileyman on Nov 9, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Although Steve Young has spoken much, much, much more warmly of Joe Montana ever since Bill Walsh died. I think their relationship might be better than it has been in the past.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
But you don’t see the same reciprocation from Montana to Young.
by smileyman on Nov 9, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, Montana basically stays out of the public eye.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I also have to wonder if Young would be so forgiving
had he not got his Super Bowl win in ’94.
by smileyman on Nov 9, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raye is to blame
The 49ers could have run the ball against the Titans, but chose not too. They decided to pass all game long and they lost.
by Rocky63215 on Nov 8, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
were you one of the people
who were on Raye’s nuts for running the ball all the time?
The play calling was more than adequate to win the game. At some point, you really have to start blaming the execution of the plays than the plays themselves.
by brundylop on Nov 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Playcalling...
… was not adequate. There was so much time left on that final INT drive that Raye could have STILL run the ball and had time to get to the other side of the field. Instead, he spreads things out TWO plays in a row and throws both times. Gore was having one of his better games, messed up eye be danged.
by sfgfan on Nov 10, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also the problem is.......
There is really no leader on the team. You would hope after this latest loss that there will be someone to start stepping up and start speaking up. Maybe Vernon Davis can shot it, maybe even Alex Smith! But at this point in time the 49ers will be stuck in mediocrity.
by Rocky63215 on Nov 8, 2009 5:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Singletary's Mistake
Coach will have to be a big man to shift back to Shaun Hill. But our 3 wins came with Hill.
He still holds a 10 & 5 record as a starter. Smith is 0 for 7 in his last starts. How many more losses before Singletary admits his mistake?
by Aristophanes on Nov 8, 2009 5:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well first of all.
Do you really believe Hill would have beaten Houston with their pass rush? The Titans today? Absolutely not. The mistake that Singletary made was hiring Raye to begin with, he’s a lousy coordinator!
by Rocky63215 on Nov 8, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, And Yet
Hill did everything needed to defeat Arizona last year (possibly giving the western division title to the Niners) and the Vikings this year. Hill had D+ to C- games against Atlanta and Houston.
The deal is, Singletary made the change to Smith a number of games too early. If Coach is a truly big man he’ll reinstall our working class QB who took Maryland against all odds to the Orange Bowl.
by Aristophanes on Nov 8, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are clueless and often ignored
May as well not post, just a thought!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unable to Face Facts
Who is, indeed, clueless? Niners are 3 & 5. Who QB’d for the three wins?
The million dollar a year man is 10 & 5. The five or six or seven million dollar a year man is 0 for 7.
I don’t mind being ignored given the dumbing of the American nation.
by Aristophanes on Nov 8, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
0 for 7
First off, Smith has lost 6 straight. He didn’t start the Texans game and while he started the Seahawks loss in 2007, he was injured early on and was only 0/1. So just wanted to correct that.
Second, can you really bring in his 2007 losses to make a competent argument?
by Fooch on Nov 8, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If You look At The Losses Yes!!
Fooch, whats so troubling about Smith is the way he loses games for the other players..The pattern of fourth quarter blowups is now so familiar you expect it from Alex every game..The losses in 97 were so similar its scary and the repetitive nature of Alex constantly doing the wrong thing in the fourth quarter cannot be ignored..
He has played three fourth quarters this year and has had four picks..
Now I don’t think that Hill is much better, but he manages the game and gives the team a better chance to win..Fooch just look at the records, or as I say scoreboard..Smiths record is terrible, period, end of story..
by The Sear on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Funny how he actually used to be praised for a couple of rather inspiring fourth quarter comebacks. Now he’s always been terrible in the fourth quarter and will never be good. After two and a half games. I love reactionism.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The only football that exists is the last two weeks, as well as any games that support my position!
LOUD NOISES!!!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 10, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Losing games for other players"
I’m not going to defend Smith’s play in the 4th quarter (a quarter in which the team managed to put up 10 points despite Smith’s two INTS.)
But the notion that the rest of the team played great, and somehow he destroyed it for him, that doesn’t hold water. I’m thinking particularly about that 81-yard drive we gave up in the fourth quarter. That shouldn’t be acceptable defense from this team.
One also needs to talk about what the offense did well. We only had one three-and-out in this game. Now, I’m not sure how many three-and-outs I’d trade to take one interception back, but it’s worth noting that, TOs aside, our offense was moving the ball consistently, which it hasn’t done at all this year.
by Ronaldinho on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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I didn’t reply to what you typed and wasn’t referring to you. Now during that 3 win stretch, we had a disconbobulated Cardinals team, seahawks with an injured Starting QB for a half, and the Rams. The defense won those games. Who qb’d the 45-10 shalacking? Who was the QB when we went down 21-0 in the first half of the Texans game? Who was our QB when we jumped out in front of ALL 32 teams in the 3 and out category? Those are some facts for you as well.
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Think Man! Last Six Minutes vs Arizona '08 & Vikings '09.
Once again, Hill’s record should be 12 and 3 as our starter. Please admit that the unheralded, undrafted dude from Maryland had “won” the game last year against the Cardinals and this year against the Vikings. In the first case horrendous coaching cost us the game, in the second a combo of lousy offensive play calling and Favre luck or briliance or lousy defense. Screw the third down data. Win/loss is where it’s at.
by Aristophanes on Nov 8, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When the offense produces every point I'll call it a QB win.
Who cares about 08, I know that in 09 Hill has help this team lead in 3 and outs!! Think about that. Forget that Cinderella story everyone is looking for. We don’t have the team to deal with Hill’s short Yeah he doesn’t turn the ball over much, he doesn’t keep plays alive either. Win loss is where it is at but you have to look at what won the games, the blocked punt for touchdown was a part of that scoring, and without it it would have been a loss. Cardinals had so many damn penalties it was ridiculous, they kept our drives alive more than we did.
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith
was 0-5 with a horrible team before this season. Who really expected us to win in Indianapolis, it wasn’t Smith’s fault we lost that game. Plus this loss cannot be placed soley on Smith’s shoulder. But again it’s a game we needed and he did start it!!!!
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was Smith's fault (partially)
Sustaining drives in on the offense, we have no leader at the QB, we have the master of panic!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Said
You cannot place the blame soley on his shoulders. Of course he deserves blame he was the starting QB
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 9, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear to god....
if i see another [site decorum] post about Hill having TEH WINNEZ im gonna shoot up someone’s apartment…
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i have a problem with the poll
i cant find the name Nate Davis on it anywhere.
I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
by these3words on Nov 8, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
it should be that way
Alex Smith suffered from being thrown in too early behind a terrible O-Line.
And you want to repeat the exact same thing with Nate Davis?
We all know Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan did great their rookie year, but that is rare. (Also, they have good O-Lines)
by brundylop on Nov 8, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Two
Of Smith’s interceptions were off the hands of receivers or on tipped passes, one was completely telegraphed and his fumbles were just plain sloppy. He needs to do a better job holding onto the ball when facing pressure, he just holds the ball out there and doesn’t anticipate the pressure coming, A lot of NFL QB’s are like this but that is in no way an excuse.
24 points of turnovers, that is what lost us the game. It was also plain stupid to allow Johnson to score on the outside after having a TD overturned earlier, he was stopped and they must do a better job stringing it out and making the play
But back to Smith, he didn’t play good today, but he wasn’t horrible either. The sideline INT was just plain luck and the tipped pass was great timing by the Titan defender, Smith got the ball there and threw it accurate he was just late in the read. That also happened all too often today, Smith has to have more confidence in his first read because it is apparent he has the arm to get it there. In no way am i ready to give up on Alex Smith but he needs to do a better job protecting the ball, but the receivers need to do a better job running the routes and holding off the defender, especially when the ball is on target.
The 49ers have four days left in their season, they have to beat Chicago on Thursday night if not the season is all but over. As of now we are two games back with one head to head match against Arizona. A win against Chicago and the season continues a loss and it is all but over. No way do the 49ers start Nate Davis this season until it is proven that they are out of the playoff race and at this point even at 3-5 the 49ers are in the thick and Arizona’s only competition for the division. Let the next game or two play out and see where we are. If we are 5-5 following Green Bay then of course the playoffs are a possibility, but a loss one of these next two games and the season is done in which case Nate Davis may see action.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Still won't be mathematically over
Maybe the coaches need to work with Smith on where to pass the ball. Low and away from the defender on comeback routes, also how to read the defense to know you can et it out early. He also needs to trust in his route runners and know that they will be there. It’s hard to do when you have only had first team reps for 2 weeks. They need to put some ice in his jock strap to calm him down
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You Are Correct
I should change that quote. When/if it becomes apparent the 49ers are out of playoff consideration and/if Alex Smith is struggling then and only then do you even think about bringing in Nate Davis.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's the coach
someone pulled Hill who has a winning record to put in Smith who has a losing record, that is on the coach. Hill beat the Cards, the Seahawks, and the rams, Smith won nothing. Smith isn’t going to be winning QB, watch his 2 minute drill, he doesnt have the killer instinct, you can’t learn instinct, instinct is a natural thang, Brady has it, Favre’s got it, Montana had it, Payton’s got it, they play better when the pressure is on, Alex Smith chokes everytime, champions don’t choke, He has every game, Hill doen’t Choke, he has charactor, he may get beat, but he doesn’t choke, i’ll take charactor over talent any day.
by mudewada on Nov 8, 2009 6:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol just because Hill doesnt throw picks doesnt mean hes not a choker
Being gunshy and taking sacks and putting out no production whatsoever in critical situations is WORSE then Alex trying to make things happen and them backfiring. IMO.
Alex can move the ball if the running game is inneffective. Shaun Hill cant. Thats why hes starting. Thats why hes going to start the rest of the season. Plain and simple.
by Beatclash on Nov 8, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With Hill in Gore would have had 20 yds rushing
Don’t you guys get why the change was made, geez.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Petyon Manning used to
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Nov 8, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so Smith has no character?
when he sticks around after years of abuse from the UNfaithful?
when he takes a paycut to (possibly) have one more chance to prove himself as the QB of the franchise?
when he comes into a game down 21 with two quarters to play and nearly pulls off the improbable?
sorry, but I’ll stick with the guy with talent AND character
by A_Tron-300 on Nov 9, 2009 1:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hill beat the Cards, the Seahawks, and the rams
That’s really ur argument? Those games were won by the defense… Did you know that before Smith went in our offense only scored a max of 2 TDs a game? And Shaun 3 and out Hill KILLED us in the Texans and Falcons games… just stop overreacting and see how Smith does for the rest of the season because, at this moment, he gives us the best chance to win.
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith is better than Hill
However changing the offensive emphasis for Smith was a garbage idea. Alex Smith should be passing just to get the lead than managing the game. He’s not the strength of the offense or the team. If the 49ers have a 2nd half lead the game should be firmly in the hands of Frank Gore, Andy Lee and the defense. Spreading the formation out and passing on 1st and 2nd down with the lead was utterly stupid, it lost the game. It’s also not fair to Alex because it’s asking too much too soon.
Alex Smith isn’t an upper tier QB, especially in his 2nd start of the season. Why the 49ers are trying to use him like one is mind boggling. Give him a chance to grow, let him play a as needed role to develop. Give the ball to the other guys to win, just like the team was doing with Shaun Hill. Seriously, their aren’t any more Colts games on the schedule. Tone the offensive passing down cause the other strengths are good enough to get wins.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Another problem is they pass with no threat to run
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, exactly
There wasn’t even a RB in the backfield on those 3rd Qtr pass plays. 1st and 2nd down, the 49ers aren’t even faking the threat of run to keep the defense honest. It makes no sense, the Titans the were expecting a heavy dose of Frank Gore. Even if the team is going to pass the ball, take advantage of the Titans expecting run. Frank Gore killed them all game.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
@ Big Nerd
We needed to open up the offense it really wasn’t an option at this point. You cannot continue to run it up the middle on 1st and 2nd downs and then set up the offense with 3rd and 6+ when their efficiency on 3rd down is so low. It was bad route running, bad timing, Smith not delivering the ball on time, inability to stop the pass rush and tip passes that ruined it for the 49ers. 2 of Smith’s 3 picks were on tipped passes and his two fumbles were on blocking breakdowns. It’s not excusing the turnovers because Smith needs to recognize the pressure and hold onto the ball, he also needs to get in sync with his receivers especially on timing routes. Crabtree was a non factor today with 3 receptions yet Smith continued to go towards him 8 times. Though the percentages of completions in Crabtree’s direction was low it shows a confidence in the rookie receiver and that is a positive.
It’’s small things that Smith needs to do in order to minimize the mistakes, and they can be fixed. Having confidence in his 1st read and delivering the ball quicker is a fixable problem as is recognizing the pressure and maintaining control of the ball. But the bad news is that we play Thursday and it’s not a problem that can be fixed that short term. It isn’t asking too much of him to deliver the ball in a spread formation but it may be asking too much of the makeship offensive line to ask to protect him. Sims played well today as did Heitman, but the other 3 linemen continued to struggle. They must have a run/pass option when doing the spread/shotgun formation and until they can formate a game plan to do that it is going to struggle
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 7:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The team needed more TD's to beat the Titans?
It’s seems to me once the 49ers had the lead their was no use for such risky plays. The only way the Titans were going to win was with turnovers . . . we provided plenty of those.
Frank Gore was averaging over 5 yards per carry and about 10 yards off little dunk or swing passes. Andy Lee was pinning the Titans in bad field position with a nonexistent Titan return game. The Titans had only scored 3 points when asked to drive the length of the field on defense. Again I ask, what was the risk versus the reward? Well . . . the risk was just played out.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Im with you on this one.
Ill admit i was one of the people calling out for the playbook to be opened up a little. But wtf was with Jimmy sending Alex out there in a singleback 4Reciever bunch set (not shotgun) TWICE on 2nd and 2? I just cant get why hes trying to be so tricky all of a sudden. Its 2nd and 2!!!!!!!! wtf are you spreading the field for!?!?! My problem with the playcalling the first half ot eh season was too much running, even in passing situations. Today he was resorting to passing plays in running situations…This is NO way helps alex out. It in no way helps the offense because youre keeping the ball out of youre biggest threats hands, in situations when he should get the ball. Its not like he was a lameduck today either…..He was consistantly getting good gains on the ground today.
by Beatclash on Nov 8, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Philosophy Had To Change
3 yards and a cloud of dust on the 1st two downs just wasn’t working. Risky plays? I don’t think that is the best word to describe it. I would call it opening up the offense in order to avoid 3 and outs. Now the mistakes that were made are not excusable. You cannot excuse the INT’s, the fumbles and the bad route running. I have and will continue to defend Alex Smith from undo criticism regarding some of the picks but what i will not do is defend him from not recognizing the pressure and in the process fumbling the ball. And i will not defend from his hesitation in regards to reads and timing routes. The only 49er receivers that didn’t make a mistake in regards to routes were Jason Hill and Vernon Davis. Considering Smith completed passes to 8 different players this means that the other 6 made mistakes in terms of routes that they were running. This is not Alex Smith’s fault
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The offense should be balanced with Alex in there.
I think thats a given. But Frank is more equipped to carry the load then Alex. Frank is just the more gamebreaking player overall. Making Alex throw the ball 45 times, and having Frank only carry the ball 15 times, is NOT what this offense needs.
by Beatclash on Nov 8, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not blaming Alex
I’m blaming the play calling. I didn’t see a good reason for Alex to be making those passes to begin with. The Titans aren’t built to play from behind. I’m more than happy to continually let Vince Young drive the ball 60-80 yards to score points. Seemed like the wrong strategy for the game. I thought Alex had already won the game with his 2 minute drive at the half.
Also, we still have this guy named Frank Gore, he needs the ball. A few 3 outs giving the ball to Frank is going to open up better passing opportunities to Alex and this was a game to take advantage of that opportunity. When did the Titans ever stop Frank Gore?
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Agree To Some Extent
Alex Smith isn’t Peyton Manning (who in something i have never seen before threw 40 passes in the 1st half), we cannot have a one sided game plan, it does need to be more even handed. But from one extreme to another? i would rather see them open it up then be a turtle.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Open up to get the lead but let the bell cow finish the game. Let the opponent score against the teeth of the defense. Peyton Manning couldn’t get 20 points against the defense but we dial it up needing instant points to beat Vince Young?
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not a bad game plan actually
I could get behind that strategy
by smileyman on Nov 8, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Am All For That As Well
But when your up 17-10 heading to the 2nd half then run twice to start it i question that. Get the two score lead then get the cowbell involved a bit later.
Good Idea big nerd
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by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we rarely ran on first though
We can still mix it up
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think both points are fair
It is true that we needed to open it up more, especially with Smith and Crabtree, but also to get the 8 and 9 men out of the box and help the running game. But your point is also true: once we’ve created that threat and gained points and field position from the passing game, we should utilize Gore when we have the lead. I think on another thread you stated that when leading 17-10 and facing 2nd & 18 we should not be throwing the ball. You’re right. Some fans would call that sitting on the lead but that’s how this team was built. This line can’t protect a QB well enough to convert that. distance. Give Gore 20+ carries, protect the QB from having to wing it 30+ times and win in the 4th quarter. 3 of the 5 losses the team not only held the lead at the half but led in the 4th quarter. I think most fans would’ve taken that to open the season yet we’ve given it away three times in half the season.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 9, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We were also at 2nd and 18 because we spread the field on 1st down to pass the ball and Titans blitz some extra people up the middle. I believe it was safety and linebacker. I was surprised Alex even snapped that ball without calling an audible or T.O. cause it looked clear the defense had the perfect call and he had no place to go.
by bignerd on Nov 9, 2009 1:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I also think that sack occurred when Bass went out injured
And Wragge had come in. Yet one more in-game change on the line which has to screw with timing and assignments.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 9, 2009 1:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith Picks & Record
How many picks has Alex Smith thrown in the fourth quarter of the last three games?? The answer is 4, when the game is on the line, Smith chokes like a dog with a bone stuck in his throat..
We have seen this crap over and over again..His last six starts he is 0-6, no coincidence there..
by The Sear on Nov 8, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hill Isn't The Answer Either
Hill isn’t the answer either, or even better than Smith..Lay this at the door of the front office which has zero clue what the hell they are doing..To go into a season with these two as QB’s and talk about the playoffs is pure folly..
Neither one of these guys will ever take us anywhere..
by The Sear on Nov 8, 2009 7:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My 2 cents on Alex starting
He needs to start the rest of the season. Its the smart thing to do both short term and long term. From a franchise point of view, how Alex does the rest of the season effects the Niners draft plans. And i dont think people realize just how important this next draft could be to the Niners if its done right.
People seem to forget why Alex is in there in the first place. Hill was ineffective. When opposing defenses stack the box and successfully stop Frank on the ground, Hill cant do anything through the air to counter it. Alex can, and has. Thats why hes starting. Does he screw up? Yea. Do people put too much blame on him? Hell Yea.
The fumble today was not his fault. Snyder was beat almost right off the snap, and Alex had just about 2 seconds to throw. This happens to QB’s all over the league EVERY week. Were people calling for Snyders head? no. I havnt heard a single person even mention how badly Snyder was beat. Why?? because all the Alex bashers are always going to put all the blame on him. Theres no easier person on a football team to place blame on then the QB.
One interception wasnt his fault. This is the tipped ball ofcourse. Now, BOTH of the Morgan picks were his fault from a decision standpoint. He waited too long to throw those passes and it gave the defender a chance to disrupt the play. And with Alex’s luck ofcourse they ended up being interceptions. But morgan didnt come back to the ball on either play. Morgans not as motivated as he was before Crabs signed and its showing on the field. Were the picks his fault? no, but he sure as hell didnt help Alex on either of those plays.
The gameplan today was also odd. What happened to pounding the rock? What happened to Frank being the main force on this offense?? I understand that you have to open up the playbook with the ability’s Alex has, but why turn the team to a more pass based offense? Why the hell would you put Alex in his 2nd start in 2 years and make him throw the ball constantly behind a makeshift offensive line??? Alex cant carry this team. Thats Franks job. Its Alex’s job to keep the defense honest, and keep defenders out of the box by completeing some throws downfield. Instead they go to this crazy passfirst offense and guess what? The OFFENSE (not just alex) turns the ball over.
The most glaring stat i noticed from today game.
-Alex Smith had 45 pass attempts.
-Frank Gore had 15 carrys.
by Beatclash on Nov 8, 2009 7:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
worth a quarter
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ineffective?
Since when is a 10 & 5 record considered ineffective? Please admit as well that Hill’s record shoud be 12 and 3 given what he did last year against Arizona in the last three minutes and the same this year against Minnesota. OMFG. Why is it that the hangers on love the high paid guy (the aristocrat) but shun the underdog, the long shot, the undrafted guy who led Maryland to the Orange Bowl against all odds?
by Aristophanes on Nov 8, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The 49ers as a team are still at 40% for 3 and outs on posessions
If that’s not ineffective please explain what it is. Smith has played with a worse O-line (during transition as well) and didn’t have all the reps that Smith did. Teams play us differently when ALex is in the game, if our Defense was top 5 in the run and pass then Hill would be serviceable.
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"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BECAUSE WINS ARE NOT A QB STAT
ffs.
Hill can’t throw the ball farther than 15 yards. Defenses were stacking the box against Gore, and rendering him largely ineffective. Hill couldn’t throw the ball to get them to back off.
Hill lacks the arm to keep us in games when our D doesn’t play well. The O was really really bad when he was in there. Like really really super bad.
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by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Platitudes
You simply mouth what the TV pundits say about Hill. Please review the films and see
numerous passes from Hill to Morgan (Rams last year to win game), Bruce, and Davis beyond 30 yards. After that review Montana’s career. The weak arm argument was ever present among Joe’s critics, but maybe you’re too young to remember that fact.
by Aristophanes on Nov 9, 2009 6:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rams last year to win game
IT WAS THE MOTHER[SITE DECORUM] RAMS….
I was mad about the Ints yesterday but i was just as mad during Hill’s games where i saw the defense on the field the WHOLE DAMN game. And please shutup with the he wins games argument, it is not valid…
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rams are one of the worst teams in the NFL this year. I mean, they’re straight up awful, right?
Yet after the first half of the game, the Niners were up 7-0. On a botched punt, recovered by Scott McKillop. A special teams TD was the only TD the Niners could muster in the first half of a game against one of the absolute stinkiest teams in the NFL. Sure, the Niners scored twice on offense. They also scored twice on defense. And the defense shut out the Rams.
So can someone explain to me how this victory over the Rams is the result, exclusively, of Shaun Hill’s amazing play?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre corollary
As Brett Favre does on a weekly basis, Shaun Hill willed it to happen!
by Fooch on Nov 10, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you’ve ever read that Grand Admiral Thrawn series of Star Wars novels (Timothy Zahn), or played the Knights of the Old Republic games, it would seem evident that Shaun Hill and Brett Favre are Jedi, who have the power of Battle Meditation, which can turn the tide of any battle.
Why these guys aren’t in Afghanistan, I don’t know.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 11, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
battle meditation is awesome
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Nov 11, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you SEE those passes? When Hill throws long, it’s a wounded duck that “comes down like a punt” to quote Morgan. Good defenses (you know, NOT the rams) either intercept those, or at the very least make sure the receivers don’t catch them.
Also, even a broken clock finds the occasional nut, and blind squirrels are right twice a day etc etc.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Nov 9, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
should be?
What his record should be? And this is one more reason why wins and losses are not a QB stat.
by Fooch on Nov 8, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol Shaun the underdog?
Please.
Alex Smith was the #1 overall pick in ‘05. Was the first QB to play every snap in a single season for the Niners. Showed great promise in his 2nd year and pretty much gave all the Niner fans out there hope for what could be. Then Alex’s career basically fell apart. Some of it being terrible luck, the rest of it was the 49ers laying out a blueprint of how NOT to develop a young QB.
Alex was all but forgotten this season. He even took a pay cut to stay with the team and give it one last shot. If Alex were to come back after 2 years of not playing, all the shoulder injurys and surgerys, all the obstacles that altered his career and made his transition into the NFL so difficult… it would be the greatest comeback story since Garrison Hearst. Underdog, you say? …pfft. At this point in his career, Alex Smith is the definition of an underdog.
by Beatclash on Nov 8, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He said it
This is the point I was trying to make on the other thread. I’m with fine with Alex Smith, it’s the over emphasis on Alex Smith that sets him and this team up for failure.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody but Alex turned the ball over.
Frank Gore didn’t fumble and no receivers fumbled after the catch. That doesn’t mean they were all Alex’s fault, but if the QB throws a really dumb INT at the beginning of a critical 4th down drive with time running out and the game on the line, he gets the blame for losing the game because he blew the last opportunity.
by MontanaPass on Nov 8, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
and our (used to be) #2 rush defense couldn’t stop CJ on a 4th and goal when they had him wrapped up in the backfield? I know the turnovers were his fault but there were many things the team, as a whole, did wrong to lose that game.
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that is fair
4th and goal line isn’t exactly a favorable situation for the defense. Not to mention it was the only TD drive they gave up the entire game. The offense put them behind the 8-ball the entire game allowing VY to only go 20-30 yards to score TDs or do nothing and get FGs.
by bignerd on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that drive was for 80 yards while the 49ers had the lead… The team collectively choked. I think people need to stop trying to find a scapegoat and realize the team isn’t that good yet and won’t be until they can finish games.
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith
NEEDS to start the rest of the year. There is no way Hill can lead us to the playoffs. As BAD as smith was today, he gives us the best chance to win. Do you know how many 4 and outs we would have had today if Hill had been in? The possession in the 3rd qrtr-4th qrtr was 8+ minutes. No way Hill does that. We lost because we didn’t get a TD on that possession, to be honest with you. I think TENN gained momentum after just giving up a FG.
Oh well.
by ZonaBacks10 on Nov 8, 2009 8:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Time to cut bait
Smith…NEEDS to start the rest of the year.
So we can lose the rest of our games? Maybe shoot for a high draft pick. Is that the strategy?
Answer this: What is that one intangible, that one unteachable trait needed to win in the NFL that Alex Smith doesn’t have?
Hint: it isn’t arm strength…
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball
by 10forTech on Nov 8, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is none.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
other Hint:
whatever you think it might be, it’s not 1/100th as important as little things like arm strength.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your saying we won?
Because Alex has arm strength
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball
by 10forTech on Nov 8, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
really?
No, but Alex’s arm strength has a lot to do with our offense putting up more points in the last 2.5 games.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We lost
No matter how many ‘more points’ our offense is putting up, we still lost.
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball
by 10forTech on Nov 8, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
right
and about 30 other people, just on our team, contributed to those losses.
Team != QB
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could use the same reasoning to explain why Aaron Rogers needs to be benched.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know right? people are just ridiculously jaded to Alex Smith… QBs have bad days… we need the rest of the season to see if Smith’s “bad day” is really his norm.
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you like arm strength...
you would love Nate Davis.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 9, 2009 5:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And go with who as our starter?
Do you truly believe Hill would have beaten Indy? No. He obviously did jack crap against Houston, the only reason why that game was close was BECAUSE of Smith. Do i think we would have lost by 35 points to ATL with Smith in? NOPE. And Hill would NOT have led this team to a win today. Smith put together drives that Hill simply just cannot do. This game would have been a blowout in TENN favor had Hill started, and everyone would be calling for Smith. We lost, get over it. Game thursday.
by ZonaBacks10 on Nov 8, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
alternately
an Offensive Line?
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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by Viliphied on Nov 8, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good grief
Nobody has any patience anymore.
If Niner fans were back around in Steve Young’s first starts they would’ve demanded that he be cut. If Colts fans reacted to Peyton during his first season this way he’d be gone too.
by smileyman on Nov 8, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When you look at Peytons rookie season and Alex's rookie season.
They were both pretty terrible.
Its interesting to look at how differently their careers turned out. Then again Peyton has had the exact same Offensive Coordinator his entire 12 years in Indy…..i wonder if that might have helped his development….hmmmm…….
by Beatclash on Nov 8, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly didn't hurt
Twelfth year with one OC, three HCs and Marvin Harrison for every year until the current one. Great player, yes, but great stability.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 9, 2009 1:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What's the alternative
Punt throwing game manager or undeveloped rookie? I for one was a supproter of Hill, but man he is terrible, he is a leader no doubt but his arm strength doesn’t fit what we have to work with on O.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
blowing steam...
Ya know, I don’t know what the answer is. At this point I’m ready to try anything.
Nate Davis seems to be the logical chose IMHO. But If Sing says Davis isn’t ready, he isn’t ready.
I’m just pissed for losing again, and I can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel.
{SITE DECORUM} {SITE DECORUM} IT!
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball
by 10forTech on Nov 8, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
don't worry Crabtree will score vs the Bears
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I'm for the team now
I’d like Crabs to help the team by playing well, but personal stats don’t mean jack if the team loses.
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball
by 10forTech on Nov 8, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
chill it's called sarcasm
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Smith
eliminates any chance we have to win and make the playoffs. He will ALWAYS make the same mistakes because he lacks natural instincts. Slow delivery, slow release, throws late — nothing has changed in 5 years except he’s grown older.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 9, 2009 5:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eliminates any chance we have to win and make the playoffs
Nate Davis and Shaun Hill have less of a chance to make the playoffs with this team…
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate Davis
has less of a chance of catching the bus (the short bus at that) with his intellect. Nothing about Nate Davis says Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Donovan McNabb. The guy somehow thinks you can go to 10 Pro Bowls in 6 seasons… Yeah…he’s retarded. Literally.
by Drew K on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He probably thinks that the 12th man in Seattle is a real extra player and that they are the only team in the NFL that gets to have a “12th man” at home.
by Drew K on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we get it, he comes off as stupid in interviews. You have made that point more than once. Now listen to every single other football player. These guys are not the brightest lights on the christmas tree. They don’t have to be.
There is no correlation between quarterback success and IQ score. You say two things, Pre-Season games don’t count for anything, and Nate Davis is stupid. Well guess what, no quarterback has regular season experience until they play their first game.
Here’s what you have seen of nate davis
Ball State- played well, but screwed up in his last two games. He was sick, but an argument could be made that he choked. That is something you could say if you would like to be take seriously here. But you never say that.
Pre-Season: Did pretty well, nothing crazy. You saw it, I saw it, everyone saw it.
Apart from “he is stupid” you haven’t made any argument. Look at opportunity cost here. Nate Davis requires 0 draft picks this off season. A suitable QB would require one of our 4 top 3 round draft picks. We could sign a proven free agent and that would be great. It wouldn’t cost us anything in the draft and we’d have a qb who you think is not too stupid to throw a ball. That’s ideal. But if that doesn’t happen you are arguing exclusively a negative, and its becoming frustrating.
Lets see where you really stand-
This scenario assumes alex smith has continued on his current trajectory.
Its pick 14, niners are up, and have the next pick after that too. Clausen went to the browns, Bradford went to the rams, Locker went to the raiders and Jacksonville grabbed Tebow to try to get some people to buy tickets. CB Joe Haden, OLB Eric Norwood, OT Brian Buluga, RB CJ Spiller, ILB Rondo McLain and the rest of the quarterback class is still available. We need the first 3 players I named, and the last two would be huge investments for the future at their positions. Who do you draft?
by hellaninersfan on Nov 19, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't help but wonder ...
… if there isn’t a subconscious racial component to Drew’s ranting about Nate’s so-called lack of intelligence. Because, among everything else, Nate definitely talks fairly “black.”
by Ronaldinho on Nov 20, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Our offense is becoming unpredictable
We pass on first down more than usual, and we don’t run enough. But our Oline is predictable, it can’t block long enough to get downfield routes when we have 4 receiving options. THe Titans just went to a bubble zone 7-10 yards off of the line of scrimmage, simply because by the time our WR’s get open someone will be on Smith’s back as long as you pressure wide against our RT. It just isn’t difficult playing our offense.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
by rlott#42 on Nov 8, 2009 8:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait for all of the weekly “Alex Smith Sucks” or “I told you guys Alex Smith was good!” FanPosts that people will put up when he does moderately poorly or well, respectively.
Really, he played okay. Not great. Not bad. He actually did lead that drive at the end of the game that put us in a position to try the onside kick. Two of the interceptions should have fallen to the ground. His accuracy was a mixed bag.
So, he was okay with a little bad luck to boot.
It doesn’t matter how much you want to panic, he’s basically got the job until the end of the season. Matt Maiocco pretty much said in a radio interview last week that Smith would have to be historically bad for the team to go back to Hill right now.
So suck it up. If he’s not any better than this at the end of the year, I’ll be right there with you. For his second start in over two years, I thought he looked fine.
The only thing we should really be coming to grips with right now is that for the third year in a row we as fans thought the playoffs were a legitimate goal. Maybe we should actually just try to get to .500 first.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 8, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Alex Smith sucks
and your excuses won’t make his performance any better.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 9, 2009 5:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
What excuses?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW you can't even live by your own words!!!!
Kezarvet, Hey Remember when you said this below? Now that it is coming out of your mouth it is suppose to be less Class-less?
As an original Niner fan that has seen every team it is dismaying to hear current Niner fans with no class. Back in the day we loved our Niners and never said this guy sucks or that guy is garbage. Totally classless. You need to grow up.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Oct 29, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the Voice of Yoda
“To the dark side I see you have turned!”
11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction! <--- Hey It could still happen!
by Ten-Man on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas Wiining Helps The 49ers
Off topic but i just wanted to add this.
NFC East
Dallas 6-2
Philadelphia 5-3 we play them later
New York 5-4
Washington 2-6
NFC South
New Orleans 8-0
Atlanta 5-3 lost
Carolina 3-5
Tampa Bay 1-7
NFC North
Minnesota 6-1
Chicago 4-4 Play this week
Green Bay 4-4
Detroit 1-7
NFC West
Arizona 5-3 Play Later
San Francisco 3-5
Seattle 3-5
St. Louis 1-7
NFC Wild card
1. Philadelphia 5-3 Play Later
2. Atlanta 5-3 Lost
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New York 5-4
Chicago 4-5 Play This Week
Green Bay 4-4 Play Later
San Francisco 3-5
We actually have a chance to control our own destiny. If Philadelphia had beaten Dallas we wouldn’t, considering we don’t play the Cowboys.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81 on Nov 8, 2009 9:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I forgot about the WC
Good thought. We need to fix our 2nd half play. I was reading the post game transcripts, and someone said it, We’ve been beating ourselves. Completely true. We are much better than a 3-5 record. We need to start showing it, because in another week or so, it might be too late.
by ZonaBacks10 on Nov 8, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to be negative but
its going to be ‘too late’ in 3 more days. I seriously doubt that our team can pull itself up by the bootstraps and beat the Bears after yesterday’s uninspired performance.
At this point I seriously doubt that we finish the season with a winning record.
The future ain't what it used to be.
by riderless on Nov 9, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If our team gets judged by it's performance
You gotta judge Chicago the same way. Both Cincy and AZ scored TDs on the first four drives of their respective games vs Chicago. That’s plain awful. Bears aren’t exactly anything to fear.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Nov 9, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we need to draft secondaries next year
I don’t want to give up on smith yet. i’ll give him 4 to 5 more games and if he still can’t win, then we should start Nate and have him ready for next season. We don’t need to draft another QB. We are secondaries away from having a dominant defense. Our secondaries SUCKS!!!!!
by bong_gabilya on Nov 8, 2009 9:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need OL
Yes rlott#42, Crabtree...needs to hold onto the ball
by 10forTech on Nov 8, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone say it with me
Nate. Davis. Will. Not. Start. This. Year.
Maybe ever.
by smileyman on Nov 8, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i really hope so, because I still want smith to succeed
by bong_gabilya on Nov 8, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting closer to the Goldson sucks
I actually saw Lewis make a play or two deep in coverage, which is something I have yet to see with Goldson.
I didn’t understand why Gannon killed Lewis on the long Chris Johnson run. His angle wasn’t bad, that’s just Chris Johnson, 1st or 2nd fastest man in the NFL. I knew he’d get outside a few times. I’ve seen a few RB’s get to edge a few times on us this season.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
our secondaries are the weakest link in our defense… we are so close from being a dominant defense
by bong_gabilya on Nov 8, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Roman made another stellar play today. I’m not sure if his assignment was the TE but when Manny went after the rolling out Vince Young it seemed apparent his job was to cover the TE instead of being the 2nd defender to chase after Vince Young. He was behind all 3 players and couldn’t piece that together?
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it wsa briefly mentioned but
Smith completed 64% of his passes for almost 300 yards, and those weren’t junk yards.
He didn’t have as much zip on the ball as the previous games but he was decent. He was not bad. All 3 interceptions I felt receivers could have stepped to the ball closer or did something better to prevent the interception, but a better positioned throw would have slightly helped, although he had some really tight passes completed tight coverate so those were good.
Unfortunate that the Titans had to turn their season around last week and against us, if they would have been like 6-2 now we wouldn’t be so frustrated, but I don’t want to be down on Alex Smith so fast again, he is a different player now than before. Just gotta continue improving and get the ball out quicker sometimes
by fortyniners on Nov 8, 2009 9:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
you're right
I think he will improve and get better. I’m giving on josh morgan he doesn’t have the right attitude, he’s always smiling and nonchalant about everything. we should start with j. hill and crab
by bong_gabilya on Nov 8, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stats mean squat.
64% 286 yards. 3 interceptions and a fumble. Quit making excuses. Alex thinks too slowly, hangs onto the ball too long, and is frequently too late with his passes. Enjoy mediocrity? You’ll love Alex Smith. It is time to go to the real future — Nate Davis.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 9, 2009 5:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Enjoy absolutely terrible? You’ll love Nate Davis.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a question for Jimmy Raye and I wish I was a reporter
Why do you suck?
Why do you have zero guts?
Why are you inconsistent in your play calls?
Why if something is working, do you go away from it?
Why…oh why did you even get back in to coaching? Shouldn’t you be playing golf somehwere? Or going to the Cracker Barrell for chicken fried steak and mashed potatoes?
….Okay maybe it was 6 or 7 questions but I am fed up with the crap. I don’t care what anyone esle coming to Jimmy Raye’s defense says cause its all gonna be a bunch of hogwash anyhow and I won’t listen.
Alex Smith should start the rest of the season. At this point it would take a miracle for us to make the playoffs anyway…So why not? Get him more experience and more reps. If he blows, it’ll tell us what we need in the 2010 draft
by Drew K on Nov 8, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
well can't you say his play calling has gotten better...
because if you think his play calling especially his run calls haven’t gotten better i’d have to say your a lil crazy.
also i’m ok with staying with Smith and waiting it out. but no way to we haste a draft pick on a 1st round QB because none of them are stand outs. maybe 2nd maybe 3rd but i think by next year if we draft a qb high and nate davis out plays him in the preseason then would you feel like we wasted a draft pick?
i’m just thinking that we have upside in N. Davis, and have positions that we have no choice but to upgrade because there is no back up.
Also people calling for Hill makes no sense you gotta look at it this way.
Smith=someone that loses games.
Hill=someone that can’t win games.
so explain how one can honestly choose between the two?
by whitemike1644 on Nov 9, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't win games?
Please, then, explain Hill’s 10 & 5 record. Can’t win games? Please review Hill’s last drive last year in Arizona and last drive this year in Minnesota. Alex is now 0 & 7. Choice seems starkly clear.
by Aristophanes on Nov 9, 2009 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
becaue when we went down Hill can't move the ball...
everyone knew they way we were with him we can’t come back from a deficit. Atl. Hou. he couldn’t put points on the board. any blow out we had it was the defense putting points on the board.
by whitemike1644 on Nov 9, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The run plays have gotten better results because
Alex Smith has been in there and is able to complete longer passes downfield. Teams arent stacking the box. Raye is calling the same ol’ garbage he’s been calling so I’d have to say you’re a little crazy for thinking Raye is doing anything different than before!!
by Drew K on Nov 9, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Raye's calling is the same?
Had he called five straight passes to start a game before this one?
You’ve got to be kidding me, right?
by Ronaldinho on Nov 9, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Smith
proved again that he lacks the natural instincts to play QB. Yes he has all the physical tools but he still makes VERY SLOW decisions. His passes are as late as they have ever been and he is just too timid. Stick with him and we will always be mediocre.
We have three very good young wide receivers in Crabtree, Jones and Hill, and one who thinks he is better than he is in Morgan.
We have a kid sitting on the bench with a rocket arm, great poise and confidence, and who will lead this team next season. PLAY HIM. It’s Nate Davis time.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 9, 2009 5:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
WHAT EXACTLY HAS NATE DAVIS PROVED?
That he can play against another teams 3rd stringers? OMG THE FUTURE IS HERE
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex has proved he can go 0-7,
and Hill has proved that he has regressed this season. Davis hasn’t had a chance to prove anything yet. Give him a chance against first stringers and then post your sarcastic comments.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 9, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
look I agree that Davis may very well be our QBOTF
just not right now.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Nov 9, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
give smith 4 more games
if he can’t win. I say go try nate davis and have him ready for next season..he has not prove anything, but from watching the pre-season he showed more poise and composure than hill and smith. He has a stronger arm too
by bong_gabilya on Nov 9, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We simply have no way to know yet ...
Hey, the guy looked great in a half of a preseason game. I mean, really, he looked fantastic.
On the other hand, it was a preseason game. It makes me chuckle that some of the same people who were so incredibly dismissive of Smith’s near-comeback in his first regular-season action are also willing to anoint Davis QBOTF based on the same amount of far-less-meaningful action. IT WAS A PRESEASON GAME!
But most importantly, I want to point out how we really don’t know who Alex Smith is yet … and so, by that logic, how on earth could we know who Nate Davis is?
by Ronaldinho on Nov 10, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex has proved he can go 0-7,
5 losses in 07 when his arm wasnt attached to his body, one against the Colts, one against the Titans… You got a great sample size there.
by Joshpreet on Nov 9, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
PROVEN LOOSER!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, you guys keep setting me up and I’m going to keep knocking these out.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if it's so much alex smith sucks
maybe just his teams have
grammer geeks you make me sick
by angryandy on Nov 9, 2009 6:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
2 fumbles, 3 INT's
Alex Smith doesnt’ suck, he blows
by glorydays on Nov 9, 2009 6:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Smith
I was kind of excited when Smith redid his contract. I thought that he just might be the right guy for the 9ers, stupid me! I am in total agreement with you about Nate Davis, give the kid a chance. If he goes out and looses a couple of games and it destroys his confidence, then he aint the guy we need. Look at Rothlisburger, he didn’t have instant success but he’s kinda OK now. The way I see it, if the team stays the way they are there are maybe 2 more winable games, 3 at the most, the Lions, Rams and possibly the Seahawks. This team needs a QB. This team also needs Bob McKittrick, maybe Sing could try and channel him somehow. Now I’m starting to rant a little so I better stop while I still have a taste of sanity.
Be kind to me please, this is the first time I have ever posted anything about anything and it is also my 54th birthday. Thank you for the vent
by glorydays on Nov 9, 2009 6:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Put Nate Davis in, Let Him Spin
Alex Smith and Shaun hill are losers and we are never going to be a great team until we solidify this quarterback posistion.
(AKA or until we draft tim tebow in the draft next year) lol
GeT Ya Popcorn ReadY
The Last Names Ever, First Names Greatest.
by Italian King on Nov 9, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let this be recorded as the first time ever!
Shaun Hill is a loser. You heard it here first!
(by the way, I’m not making fun of your post – I’m just making fun of the months and month and months of “Shaun Hill wins games – period” stuff that I’ve been subjected to – or subjected myself to, to be possibly more accurate)
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But he did "winz games" . . . the only games we've won this season.
by bignerd on Nov 9, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and that’s very nice for him. I’ve seen nothing to convince me that we would have lost any of those games with Alex Smith at quarterback.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BUT ALEKS SMITHE IS NOT WINNAR
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Nov 9, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you didn't notice...
all the succes we had in the 80’s/90’s we had great QB’s in steve young and joe montana
if you put together 1+1 we havnt been all that great without a Good QB behind the helm.
GeT Ya Popcorn ReadY
The Last Names Ever, First Names Greatest.
by Italian King on Nov 9, 2009 12:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Right. Because those 80s and 90s Niner teams didn't have good defenses or offensive lines ...
… or good receivers, or good RBs, or …
by Ronaldinho on Nov 9, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and
there’s a steve young and joe montana in every draft. Oh, and no other teams picking ahead of us can figure out who they are.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
by Viliphied on Nov 9, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Montana
Montana struggled his first year and a half as a starter. Alex has not even played one full year. All QB’s throw pics. There line is indicative of that. Let’s get down to the fumdimentals and quit posting nonsense.
by zonedogs on Nov 9, 2009 3:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Correction. He has played 1 full year. 2006. His 2nd season. But I understand what you're saying.
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
by maveric_87 on Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is: what are our draft priorities
The dumb choice would be to use a high pick for another QB
The smart choice would be to build up the Oline and the defense and then make our QB decision further down the road.
I think I have given away which approach I believe is better.
Competitive teams have strong lines and strong defenses.
Our good teams always had strong offensive lines. The standard procedure is to get that in place BEFORE you draft a top quarterbacks, for reasons which at this point should appear all too obvious.
by zacksf on Nov 9, 2009 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that's a nice release
how is her mobility?
by zacksf on Nov 9, 2009 5:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flexibility?
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
by maveric_87 on Nov 9, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the answer
combine Smith and Hill. It would make a decent QB. In my opinion they each have what the other doesn’t, in terms of skills and abilities.
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Nov 9, 2009 7:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nate Davis is stupid
skills will not make up for that. I look at franchise QB’s in the NFL and they have two things that make them good or great. Intellect and Skills. Typically if one of those two very important elements are missing, it’s a loss.
On 49ers.com (the Niners official website), Michael Robinson does what’s called “The Robinson Report” where he interviews certain players and sometimes coaches. If you go to the website to watch, you will be astonished at just how stupid Nate Davis truly is. The most recent interview involved Coach Singletary and and players knowledge of the coach. Very few of them surprisingly knew that much about their head coach and his career. But when Nate Davis was approached by Robinson. Robinson asked Davis these two questions and the responses went like this:
Robinson: “How many years did Coach play in the NFL”
Davis: “Uhhh 6 years…”
Robinson paused at the thought of the ridiculous guess by Davis but forged on to the next question anyhow.
Robinson: “How many ProBowls did Coach Sing go to?”
Davis “Uhhh….10 years”
The look on Robinsons face upon this response spoke words that hhe didn’t physically have to say…. “What a retard” is what I read on Robinsons face…I’ll let you be the judge.
http://www.49ers.com/media-gallery/videos/Robinson-Report-Know-Your-Coach/08ee4d8a-3ba0-4136-937d-93e5274b5c73
I happen to agree with Robinson’s look. Nate Davis’ skills don’t mean anything if he cannot count. There’s a certain amount of intellect aa QB needs to have and Davis does not have it. So get over all this “Nate the Great” garbage….cause thats what it is….garbage.
by Drew K on Nov 9, 2009 8:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's just over the top and offensive
He’s a strange case but the guy doesn’t need to be written off as too stupid.
by bignerd on Nov 9, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he's pretty dumb...strange is the wrong word
special is more fitting…and not in the good way
by Drew K on Nov 9, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TO isn't smart
and he has some great years
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Nov 9, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
I agree. Everyone needs to stop jumping on this guys bandwagon. He hasn’t done anything
by SFNinerFan on Nov 11, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
What do you expect? Give him time. Alex needs on more year in SF. The worst thing that can happen is if alex realizes his potential with another team
by SFNinerFan on Nov 11, 2009 11:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hope Smith realizes his potential here
it would suck if he got cut and then he signs with a team is does good there.
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Nov 11, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SINGLETARY WAS HIRED BECASUE OF SHAUN HILL !!!!
SINGLETARY WAS HIRED BECASUE OF SHAUN HILL !!!!
Alex Smith and JT O Sullivan were taking our team into the trash, then Mike Singletary knew Shaun Hill made great decisions and could be a winner, so he started him. He was right, Shaun Hill started winning every almost every game and broke the all time completion record for any starting quartback in the history of the game. Then Singletary says that running is going to be our ingenious strategy. So they made the game plan around running the ball, and put Shaun Hill up on the Center to take the snap, instead of putting him in the Shotgun, like the all time accurate pass leader ( Dan Marino ). He wsa pressured to much because our Offensive Line is completely horrible. The Offensive Line is very important in a Quarterbacks success. Shaun Hill makes great decisions and is very accurate if he has time to make a play, Alex Smith makes way to many bad decisions and is very in accurate when he throws the ball…. BRING BACK SHAUN HILL !!!!
by SHAUN HILL ROCKS on Nov 14, 2009 5:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Accurate when?
Throwing a screen pass? Because that is about how far Hill can throw it without it looking like some lame DUCK! Maybe you should go back an look at the teams shaun hill won against last year! I believe, only one of them had a winning record. That would be the Jets at 9-7, and we all know now that Brett was nursing a bad arm back then. Not that I would ever truly agree with kezarvet, I think I would rather take my chances with Nate then hand the spot back to Hill!
11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction! <--- Hey It could still happen!
by Ten-Man on Nov 20, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Q - Since when is Dan Marino the all time accuracy leader?
A – He isn’t. As of the 2008 season, the all time leaders in pass completion percentage are:
1) Chad Pennington – 65.6%
2) Kurt Warner – 65.1%
3) Steve Young – 64.3%
4) Peyton Manning – 64.2%
5) Carson Palmer – 64.1%
The poster is obviously the same poster who called himself KORY SHEETS…
Facts don’t seem to matter.
Shaun HIll breaks the all-time completion record?
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Nov 15, 2009 7:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
hill has a noodle for an arm, smith has a cannon
alex smiths arm+shaun hills decision making abilities. I say rotation is best
DUBfan4life!!!!
by BayAreaKidd650 on Nov 20, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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