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San Francisco 49ers 24 - Arizona Cardinals 9: Lucky Number 7; the return of Frank the Tank

Did the pregame show including ex-49er greats Jerry Rice, Steve Young and Matt Millen prove to be a precursor to a Monday Football upset, or would the 49ers fall flat against the Cardinals?  With the 49ers hanging on to very slim playoff hopes, they took the field against Arizona in a big NFC West showdown.  Tom Jackson dubbed Alex Smith "the short-term QB of the future" moments before kick-off, and during pregame predictions the undefeated Mike Ditka picked the Arizona Cardinals victorious.  Hall of Famer Steve Young chose the 49ers to win, with both Keyshawn and Boomer agreeing there was an upset in the making.  Here's what happened when the players took the field.

The first half saw a comedy of errors for the Arizona offense, as the 49ers defense forced 5 turnovers.  Frank Gore had 104 rushing yards in the first half, but the big story was indeed the San Francisco defense.  The team forced 3 fumbles, and pressured Warner into 2 interceptions.  Justin Smith was a key cog along the D-Line and Ahmad Brooks was helpful putting the heat on Warner at the end of the half, forcing a fumble on a sack.  The defensive backs were tackling and hovering to the ball well, recovering two of the fumbles to go with the 2 INTs. The 49ers secondary came up big limiting Larry Fitzgerald to 2 receptions for 22 yards and  Anquan Boldin to just 3 catches for 18 yards as the dynamic receiving duo had a poor first half.  It wasn't all fine and dandy for San Franciso, as the receivers still had a case of the dropsies (5 in the first half).  However, Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis both made up for the drops by each scoring TDs to put the 49ers on the scoreboard.  Crabtree's impressive first half saw him catch 4 passes for 61 yards and 1 TD.  San Francisco went to the break leading 17-0, and looking to keep the playoff hopes alive and well.

The second half saw the Cardinals put up a fight, but in the end 2 second half turnovers sealed their fate.  San Francisco's opportunistic defense forced another 2 fumbles, and it was again the secondary that deserves the credit.  Both Dashon Goldson and Mark Roman forced the turnovers, and Frank Gore continued his superb first half performance by adding a TD in the second half.  Ahmad "Man Beast" Brooks added two more sacks after the break as Monday Night turned into a sack party for the San Francisco defense.  Possibly getting overlooked in the stellar performance was running back Glenn Coffee, who did an excellent job of pass protection when on the field.  For the opposition, Beanie Wells had an excellent second half effort of his own for the Cardinals, finishing with 79 rush yards and 1 TD.  Arizona's efforts fell short, and Kurt Warner's dismal 16/27, 178 pass yards, 2 INT performance sent 49er fans into a frenzy.  While the playoffs are still a long shot, the team still has an outside chance to get in, with a big part coming in this huge performance on Monday Night Football.

Alex Smith had a less-than-great outing, but in the end, it was enough to get it done.  While the 49ers receivers still dropped far too many passes, guys like Crabtree and Davis came up in the clutch when it counted most.  Frank Gore's 167 rushing yards were awesome, and Glenn Coffee's blitz pick-ups were impressive.  Overall, the 49ers offense had a complete performance, despite Smith's two INTs.  The same can be said for the 49ers defense, as they constantly came up big to force turnovers and rattle Warner.  This win is a refreshing, much deserved win, and we all deserve to enjoy it.

After the jump, the drive-by-drive breakdown...   

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The 49ers took the ball first and Alex Smith set the tone with hard counts, catching Arizona defenders offsides three times on the opening drive.  The opening drive saw the 49ers come out in the shotgun six times and Smith under center 7 times.  With a balance of run (5)  vs. pass (5) San Francisco began marching into Cardinal territory, but the drive stalled on a pass tip and interception by Darnell Dockett.  The Cardinals took over on their own 47 yard line with excellent field position looking to turn the INT into points.  Justin Smith contested that notion, and had a great QB pressure on Kurt Warner, slamming to QB to the turf and forcing an incomplete pass.  The refs overlooked an illegal blow to the head by Smith, and the Cardinals were forced to a three-and-out after Dre Bly made a fantastic tip on a third down pass intended for Steve Breaston.

When the 49ers got the ball back, Frank Gore popped off a 36-yard rush on 3rd and 2 that launched the 49ers into Arizona territory.  On the very next play, Alex Smith held on to the ball for far too long and was sacked by Calais Campbell for a 6-yd loss.  This would prove pivotal in the 49ers quest for points, as San Francisco was forced to punt after a Michael Crabtree drop and an incomplete pass on 3rd down to Brandon Jones.  A great punt by Andy Lee (God amongst punters) and a nice special teams play by Brit Miller, pinned Arizona at their own 6-yd line.  The Cardinals came out trying to run the ball, but Dashon Goldson and Takeo Spikes read the play perfectly and Goldson caused Tim Hightower to fumble the ball away to Dre Bly.  The Refs cost the 49ers their final challenge of the game, failing to correctly rule the play a fumble (Bly also would've scored a Defensive TD).  Luckily on the ensuing drive Alex Smith found Vernon Davis in the end zone for six on the second play of the drive. 

Arizona's third drive ended the exact same way their second drive did, with a fumble.  Patrick Willis hit rookie LaRod Stephens-Howling after a catch, jarring the ball loose.  Mark Roman, 49er fan favourite, scooped up the ball and returned it to the Arizona 28-yd line.  San Francisco couldn't turn this turnover into 7 points, and had to settle for a 37-yd FG by Joe Nedney after a three-and-out.  The Cardinals fourth drive was promising, with Warner connecting on passes to Early Doucet and Larry Fitzgerald that put Arizona in San Francisco territory after a 15-yd facemask penalty on the Fitzgerald completion.  Warner then over threw Steve Breaston in the end zone, and a 10-yd penalty on Fitzgerald had Arizona in a 2nd and long.  The Cards QB then forced a pass into coverage, and Goldson came up with an interception for the third Arizona turnover of the half. 

San Francisco, however, could not turn the third turnover into points even after an impressive 31-yd run by Gore that saw him easily shrug off Arizona safety Antrel Rolle.  Alex Smith completed a pass to himself on the drive, after Darnell Dockett got another tip on a Smith pass.  The following play was an incomplete pass and Andy Lee was relied upon to pin the Cardinals again.  After a few penalties on San Francisco and then Arizona, the Cardinals began drive number 5 at their own 14.  Facing tough field position, Arizona was forced into another three-and-out, as San Francisco's defense was obviously up for the challenge.  The 49ers offense went on a 8-play drive, but came up empty on a missed 53-yd FG by Joe Nedney.  Crabtree had a nice 15-yd catch after slipping and getting back up to pick up about 10 YAC yards.  On a trademark Vernon Davis seam route, safety Adrian Wilson made a great pass defense which set up the Nedney FG attempt. 

With a chance to get points and a short field, Arizona started the drive off with an 18-yd completion to Breaston.  After a 4-yd run by LSH, Kurt Warner threw his second interception of the half into the waiting arms of Tarell Brown.  Anquan Boldin appeared to give up on the route, and Brown capitalized on the opportunity for the fourth Arizona first half turnover.  This time, the 49ers would again turn the turnover into seven points, on a 35-yd TD catch by Crabs himself.  Crabtree had a key drop earlier in the drive, but more than made up for it with the beautiful catch and run for six, stiff-arming Bryant McFadden on his way into the end zone.  The 49ers 2-minute offense looked good, and the team lined up in the shotgun for a majority of the drive.  With a 17-0 lead, there was plenty to feel good about, especially for those like Ninjames in atttendance.

The Cardinals had a great kick return to the 42-yard line to possibly get points before the half.  It was not to be, as Ahmad Brooks sacked Warner and forced a fumble that was recovered by Justin Smith to make the fifth turnover in the half - the most ever by the 49ers since 2001.  Unfortunately, the team could not convert the 5th TO into points as the half was closed on an 8-yd Frank Gore run that put the RB over 100 yards.  At the break, the Niners led 17-0. 

Arizona came out forcing the ball down San Francisco's throats, running Beanie Wells six times on the drive.  The Ohio State rookie totalled 39 yards on the drive.  The Cardinals tried going to the Well (pun intended) once to often, and Aubrayo Franklin forced Wells into Patrick Willis for a 2-yd loss on a 3rd and short.  Arizona had to punt, and the 49ers defense again came up big stopping the driving Cardinals in their tracks.   On the ensuing 49ers possession, San Francisco went three-and-out after a drop by VD on third down. 

The Cardinals seized the opportunity and put 3 points on the board with a 48-yd FG by Neil Rackers.  The San Francisco defense, however, limited the points by Justin Smith pressuring Warner on second down and Ahmad Brooks sacking the Cards signal caller on 3rd down.  Big plays by both Smith and Brooks seemed to be a theme up to this point in the game.  When the 49ers got the ball back, Frank Gore continued his strong performance by rushing for gains of 11 and 5 to start off the drive.  However, Alex Smith made a terrible read, and threw an interception to Adrian Wilson, who made the perfect read on Delanie Walker's route.  The momentum seemed to be shifting, and the Cardinals had life once again.

Arizona again relied on Wells, but this time with a 24-yd pass play to get the offense into a goal-to-go situation.  Four plays later, on a short 4th and goal, Wells punched the ball into the endzone, getting the Cardinals into striking distance on the score board.  Ray McDonald had a hustle play on the extra point, and blocked the conversion attempt, keeping Arizona back 8 instead of 7.  Would this play prove to be a key moment for the 49ers defense?  An outstanding hustle play by the Fooch fav.  The 49ers couldn't build off that slight momentum building effort, and the offense was forced to punt on after another Adrian Wilson pass deflection.  Frank Gore had a lovely 28-yd run that was negated by a Josh Morgan holding penalty and Andy Lee again had to pin the Cardinals inside the 20.

Arizona again tried to get the Beanie Wells train going, but Dashon Goldson made another outstanding play to force yet another fumble and the sixth turnover of the evening.  Parys Harlason fought and scratched his way to the recovery at the bottom of the pile and San Francisco looked poised to turn another TO into points.  Four consecutive Frank Gore runs made it happen, as the born-again stud RB punched the ball into the endzone to put the Niners up 24-9.  The following Arizona drive was snuffed out by two consecutive sacks by Ahmad Brooks and Patrick Willis.  Brooks has definitely stepped it up and taken it to the next level, the same can be said about the 49ers defense.

Arnaz Battle gave everyone's heart a flutter as he muffed the ensuing punt, but luckily it rolled out of bounds and the 49ers would begin the next drive on their 22-yd line.  Clutch catches by Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree kept the 49ers on the field, and balanced play-calling kept the clock ticking away.  San Francisco eventually had to punt the ball away, but effectively caused the Cardinals to burn all three timeouts.  Battle again came up as the special teams goat (and I'm not talking greatest of all-time) by failing to down an Andy Lee punt at the 1, and the result was a touchback.  Unphased by the series of unfortunate Battle events, the defense again came up huge.  On Arizona's first offensive play, Anquan Boldin was stripped of the ball by Mark Roman, who also recovered the ball for San Francisco's SEVENTH turnover. 

A few plays and a defensive holding call later, Alex Smith and the San Francisco offense lined up in the Victory Formation.  An up and down performance by Smith was offset by a strong ground pefromance by Gore, and an excellence defensive effort by the defense.  Let's all take a few days to enjoy this win, and keep our fingers crossed that the Cards fall (pun intended) in our favour for a playoff push. 

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WOHOOOOO!!!!

That’s all I need to add!!!!

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 14, 2009 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

+10000000000

awesomeness

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 14, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

LMFAO

is that Kwame Harris walking by

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

classic

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Why does that chick have undies outside her pants?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Dec 14, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It took awhile to figure out the undies-spandex dilemma

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder where you learned about this?

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 14, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep it fresh jveezy

Post some other ones.

Dancing Brad (Burn After Reading) Pictures, Images and Photos

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 14, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You asked for it.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Dec 14, 2009 9:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The Van Dancing one I actually saw on redcafe.net, but wasn't a part of any postgame celebration.

But you’re much better at coming up with the fresh ones so I leave that to you. The Hot Rod one from the Kings thread Saturday was fantastic. I’ll stick with what I know.

by jveezy on Dec 14, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

JCVD one will always be a classic though.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 14, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Good win 49ers fans.

I couldn’t believe how bad we were tonight. 7 Turnovers?

You guys always play well against us, but it helps when the entire team * the bed and doesn’t even try to win the game.

Hopefully it is a little closer/less-sloppy next time our teams play each other, it isn’t much fun to watch [unless you enjoy Schadenfreude like I do] games like this stinker.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 14, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

Great

Now I won’t be able to fall asleep tonight.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 14, 2009 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

I hope the AZ media rips Whisenhunt...

That was a horrid game from the Cards, and the 49ers beat them stupid. I knew the 49ers would beat this stupid team:

http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/12/8/1190913/49ers-cardinals-arizona-open-as-3#26809419

Whisenhunt is a fraud.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

Is that the coaches fault?

True knowledge is knowing you know, nothing!!

Blk Sand Ninja-

by rlott#42 on Dec 14, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

When you have a team with that much talent..

But craps the bed with all kinds of penalties, mistakes, and turnovers, that’s on the HC.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You really hate Whis

I think he’s a good coach. He has boom or bust players.

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I just hate seeing..

A football team look past another team. I’m happy the 49ers killed them.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

looking past us dumbasses

is more like it. it’s not like we haven’t lost any games we were supposed to win this year…

by musketeer54 on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They were looking past us to Detroit? Hahahaha

by Badly Browned on Dec 14, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Whiz is just playin the mind games prior to the playoffs

 just like last year by doin the Keystone Cardinal thing again. Gotta keep flyin under the radar thats where the Cards do the best. You guys deserve all the dancin your doin, the 9ers wanted the win and got it congrats. Dont mind if we use your dancin vids when we win the superbowl do you?

by Dem_Cardz on Dec 15, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

why

god why can’t we play them al year long? it’s like the defense knew what the o was doing all night. brooks has turned into a legitimate beast

by srill waiting on Dec 14, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

I think I have been a Giants (SF) too long

I was sure the Niners were going to blow it after turning 5 turnovers into 17 points in the first half.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Dec 14, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

hmm i was thinking the same thing

I want me some Buster

by gbears16 on Dec 14, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It will be interesting to see what Niners team shows up against Philly.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 14, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

seems like they never play well against them

by srill waiting on Dec 14, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Niners have showed up in all but one game this year

The play of the offense (turnovers, third down conversions) usually determines if they win. The D and ST coverage always keep them in the game.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I left work early to come home and watch the game

I need the hours, but I needed to see my guys play on national TV more. Thanks to the team for not making me regret my decision.

Also, Steve Young just compared the current 49ers to the Troy Aikman led Cowboys. He said VD = Novachek, Gore = Emmit, Crabs = Irvin, and Alex = Aikman…..seriously Steve Young just compared Alex Smith to Troy Aikman lol

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

lol yeah I was like hold on there Steve

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Young loses me sometimes.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 14, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

In his defense

he did lay a pretty big IF ALEX DEVELOPS INTO A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK caveat there

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Dec 14, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what I said

Alex Smith is the missing piece, if he can develop (fingers crossed), you would have a group of playmakers necessary to be taken seriously in the NFL.

by Steve Young on Dec 14, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

that was eerie.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Dec 14, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

lol well played

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

smith - aikman and crabs - irvin might have been juuust a little premature...

but davis is turning into a legitimate beast, and who knows how good gore’s numbers might have been had he played on a 49ers team in the early 90s…

by musketeer54 on Dec 14, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

No Game Breakdown Needed

49ers kicked there butt, we celebrate!

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions  

hell to the yeah, ninersnation! Niners are 2-0 when they play on national tv

Finally, another game I get to watch! Thank goodness for the defense. Yeah alex smith didn’t have his best game, but I just checked my fantasy team (our league runs 2 QBs and i’ve been starting smith and rodgers for the past few weeks) and he still did about 6 points better than rodgers, so go figure. It was still frustrating to watch him struggle putting long drives together. I mean, it seemed like TDs only happened when they started inside the card’s 40… I guess in the first half it was the receivers’ fault, but in the second half,especially after the cards went up to 9, you just want smith to answer with another TD on the board to solidify the lead!! But, it’s still a learning process for him, it’s great to see him doing well this season, overall. And hey, he held it together long enough for Gore to score eventually, so i’m not complaining too much.

Other random points…6 turnovers = 24 points? yikes…but still not as sad as….
the blocked Xtra point on the card’s Touch down. WAA WAAAA hahah

Go NINERS!!!!

by sleepyotter on Dec 14, 2009 9:17 PM PST reply actions  

alex smith

was awful

19 of 35 for 144 yards, 2 picks, and 2 more near ones.
3 of 10 on 3rd down conversions (passing).

4 yards per attempt.

On the plus side, he was only sacked once and caught a pass. -6 RAC though.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Dec 14, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I would say 3 of those were catachable drops by CD and Crabs though, but also 3 of those were bad throws/reads by Smith. I wouldn’t say he was awful, but definitely workable.

by Badly Browned on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He was shaking the for 3 quarters. He played a good 4th Qtr which was encouraging.

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Smith still has a long way to go..

In his development as a total QB. A long way.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if he was

nervous or
happy or
drunk or
in love

But his decision making was not the greatest. It wasn’t even vintage Alex Smith. His blitz pickup seemed sub par as well, but maybe he’s always like that. Also, he was inaccurate – like 2007 inaccurate.

Maybe he was nervous… maybe Sing told him he was benched for the last two game of the season if he lost!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Dec 14, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

well, i hope it's not his shoulder

at any rate, despite a couple of weaker games, since he’s started this season, I think he’s been able to learn a lot from each one and it’s shown in his performance – for the most part it’s been trending upwards. It’ll be interesting to see if he can put it all together for Philly next week.

by sleepyotter on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought his decision making was perfectly fine, actually. Clearly, his accuracy was questionable at best.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It just seemed like he was having an off day. He was still making good decisions. His throws were just off.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe rabbit

maybe.

It seemed that he was throwing into very tight coverage more than usual. It could be that his arm/velocity was off and those are the same throws he always “tries” but they look better when he rockets the pass in there.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Dec 14, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was hyped up

at least for the first quarter. Seemed like he was jittery and overthrowing his receivers.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 14, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The non-batted down interception was a pretty terrible decision. There were a few more throws like that too.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 14, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That one was a bad decision.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

So pumped up!!!!!!!!! anyways looking at the Cowboys, Giants, Falcons schedule we got a GREAT shot other than the divison
Cowboys: At New Orleans, @ Redskins, Vs Eagles
Giants: at Redskins, Vs Panthers(have to root for Carolina at least this game), @ Vikings
Falcons: @ NY jets, vs Bills, @ Buccanneers
Niner Faithful we got a good shot if we can beat Philly!
Let’s Celebrate YEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

OWENS! OWENS! OWENS! OWENS!
- Joe Starkey

by 9ersDubsGiantSharks on Dec 14, 2009 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

The defense did so much stripping

I hope the Cards’ offense brought some dollar bills.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 14, 2009 9:27 PM PST reply actions  

CARDINALS GOT ROCKED!

I have to...to aggressive the fight - Manny Pacquiao

by OhMyItsNate on Dec 14, 2009 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

Looking for that haters

KSWOF and others, chime in on the losses too.

True knowledge is knowing you know, nothing!!

Blk Sand Ninja-

by rlott#42 on Dec 14, 2009 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

That pass rush was the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 14, 2009 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Ninjames lose his voice again?

Either way.
How about that defense?
Is that 12 turnovers on national television?

These guys are money in primetime.

BTW: Dashon Goldson, my sincerest apologies….

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

Not apologizing

SS would be perfect for im IMHO

True knowledge is knowing you know, nothing!!

Blk Sand Ninja-

by rlott#42 on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to apologize

I said he was terrible and needed to be replaced.
Certainly he is NOT terrible.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

IF WE HAD BEATEN THE VIKINGS AND SEAHAWKS

2 games that we should have won…

we would be 8-5 right now. if we win the final 2 games which we should… we would be 10-6 by seasons end

i dont believe it

by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 14, 2009 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

Inexperienced, young team.

You better believe it.

Mike Singletary better have these guys (and himself) ready next year.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Lots of things could have happened. Lots of things didn’t.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

az > vikings and sf > az…therefore sf > vikings….except Favre favre’d us once again…stupid favre.

by sleepyotter on Dec 14, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

no see

favre miracle hail mary on last player > niners

not the transitive property

and yes dont look in the past… im just saying

by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 14, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

More like

AZ got Minnesota and Houston at home, Niners got Minnesota and Houston on the road. There’s your two game swing. Plus AZ got the Giants and Panthers, Niners get the Eagles and had the (healthy) Falcons.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

IF WE HAD PICKED TOM BRADY IN 2000

7

by Rishi on Dec 15, 2009 7:03 AM PST up reply actions  

He had a really nice return too.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

And he forced the second fumble in addition to recovering it.

A very impressive play.
I’m sure Florida Danny will have repressed this moment by the time he posts his statistical review of the game.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

remember...

defensive fumble recoveries are random events. it didn’t take skill for roman to be in the vicinity of the ball when another guy knocked it out.

i was shocked — shocked! — when he actually forced a fumble though. i’ll give him credit for that one.

p.s. i really hope you’re not making the argument that 4 seasons of absolute ineptitude by roman should be washed away by one descent performance. i don’t need to “repress” what he did tonight. i fully accept it, and realize he’s still garbage based on the total body of work.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather he..

Had been in better position on the Favre pass to Lewis and last week’s Hass TD pass to Branch.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd take that trade too.

I mean we would’ve had 6 TOs without his strip. The Greg Lewis play was muuuuch bigger.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 15, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a decent game from Smith...

Not fantastic. Not great. Calling it good might be a stretch, but it was definitely acceptable. There were a few problems
- He was throwing it a little too hot and was leading his receivers by a little too much in the first half.
- He was throwing a bit low in parts of the game which allowed Dorcett to get his hands on a couple of passes
- Vernon Davis had a case of the drops tonight. Most notably on the 3rd – 10 where Smith brilliantly threads the needle and it bounces off Davis’s hands.

Here were the good things
- He remained calm in the pocket throughout the night.
- He wasn’t afraid to step up in the pocket, throw the ball and take the hit.
- He was usually making good reads and going through his check downs.
- Passes, as a rule, looked sharp and his mechanics were solid.

There’s nothing that went wrong in this game offensively, that couldn’t be fixed in a training camp. This next training camp is going to be key – same system, same OC, same QB, same WR’s, same RB’s all working together for the first time since Alex Smith was drafted by San Francisco. This has the possibility to be the first time in almost a decade a San Francisco offense has had the time to gel and get that “chemistry.”

by sigma on Dec 14, 2009 9:38 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Didn't like his deeper passes.

There were a number of times that he had time to throw the deep ball and just put it on the wrong side of the receiver—on the left when the DB’s on the receiver’s left, or vice versa.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of that was on the receiving corps...

Gary Plummer on KNBR was going on about how the 49ers receivers were struggling to separate from the Arizona secondary. Apparently the secondary pressure was pushing WR’s off their routes. Arizona did one thing well this game, and that was defending the pass.

by sigma on Dec 14, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but still

there were a couple of times that Smith just missed guys or pressed the ball too far outside—and out of reach. Good enough to win, yes. But he didn’t ‘throw guys open’ to use a Mike Martz-ism.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

adrenaline?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Dec 14, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It's that chemistry...

and I don’t think you can insert a WR, switch QB’s, and overhaul an offensive philosophy during the middle of the season and expect it to go off without a hitch. A solid training camp will sort out most of these issues.

by sigma on Dec 14, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

remember when Smith

threw the ball and it hit the hands of an AZ defender and then bounced back to him and he caught it? Does that count as a completed pass to himself?

by sleepyotter on Dec 14, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Young had one of those but it was a touchdown catch.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Dec 14, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

(see my comment below)

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw it afterwards....

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Dec 14, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

A Smith is in the game book with 1 rec for -6 yards.
That’s how I can tell that he’s not as good as Steve Young.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was pretty awesome...

and a damn good save of a ball. The O-Line was getting beat during the first half, getting inside the pocket and getting pressure and forcing Smith throw line drives into coverage. Upgrading the O-Line is going to cure a lot of what ails the 49ers offensively.

by sigma on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

definitely a great save

by sleepyotter on Dec 14, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

at first i was saying he should have just batted it down, then I thought of all the crazy plays this year with the ball just randomly bouncing into people’s hands.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually think

his shoulder might be bothering him again. He looked very inaccurate. Some of those drops are on the recievers, but others were not well thrown.

Also, I thought he sucked. 4 yards per attempt = bad. That’s like Brady Quinn bad.

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by zenbitz on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what happens...

When your O-Line doesn’t give the WR’s time to get down field and stretch the defense. If you can’t get downfield because pressure is getting to the QB then the defense can stuff the underneath routes without having to worry about getting beat. I think what this shows is San Francisco should probably invest in at least one more high quality WR in this upcoming draft. Personally, I’d hope for Golden Tate and or Jordan Shipley…

by sigma on Dec 14, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually thought he had decent (not great)

protection for much of the game. Maybe he got hurt a bit by his checkdowns to gore getting 0 yards because they were well defended…

He did make the plays when he needed to, though.

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by zenbitz on Dec 14, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

you may be correct,

he was floating a little bit on the long stuff…he’d been really crisp in the longer routes in games past.

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The guys at Revenge of the Gulls

might want to re-think this pre-game analysis comparing the team’s RB’s

A year ago I would’ve
easily handed this to
the 49ers, but this
year the Cardinals are
the better rushing team.

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by dylanj on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

I would have agreed with this (pre-game)

Frank Gore finally became Frank Gore tonight.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Gore

has been the same all year. Its hard to rack up yards when the team doesnt use you like they did for 2-3 games before tonight.

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by dylanj on Dec 14, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

I think it’s pretty obvious you haven’t been watching the games.

This was by far Gore’s best game rushing this season, and it isn’t really even close

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

i've

watched every single game this year thank you. Gore has been hampered by a lack of an O-Line early in the season when we were ground pound all game long. He made up for that by breaking huge runs but overall wasn’t averaging a ton of ypc. The last 3 games or so the guy has barely been used so you cant really expect him to produce when he gets intermittent carries out of the spread which is isnt familiar running with.

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by dylanj on Dec 14, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

actually

he was averaging good YPC because of the long runs. He was just terribly inconsistent, boom or bust of the highest order (unfortunately mostly bust). Like I said, this was EASILY his best rushing performance of the year.

Also, did you consider that one of the main reasons he’s been used so little the last few weeks was BECAUSE he wasn’t playing well?

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you know F.O. has a new metric for measuring offensive lines? They have an article blaming the LOLine for the boom and bust pattern, not Gore.

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh believe me

I know a good amount of Gore’s failure is on the LOL. I just think that coming out and acting like tonight’s performance was business as usual given what we’ve seen this season is completely ridiculous.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Gore’s previous failure that is.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep this in mind

despite the thinking that Gore’s had a horrible season—he really hasn’t.

He’s got 835 yards on the season with three games left. Two of those games are St. Louis and Detroit. He should be well over 1000 yards on the season, and this with missing 3 games because of injury as well as not being utilized in a couple of games.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 14, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That is amazing thinking he can still pull off 1000 yards after this campaign.

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm definitely a member of this (1000 yds for Gore) campaign.

I’ll even wear a button.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

top backs...

should get the ball. he dictates games if given the opportunity.

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

the thing about his performance

It’s much better to have a guy consistently run 3-5 yards 20 times per game than have a guy run for 1-2 yards 18 times, then bust out 2 30 yarders. This was his first game of the season where he was actually getting good yardage consistently.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

to his defense....

he’s only carried the ball 18+ times three times this year…all wins.

and he ran for more than 5 YPC 5 times this year, so you’re absolutely wrong.

the passing game has been a necessary and wonderful development for this offense, but we get victories on 21’s shoulders.

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Here are the games where he averaged more than 5.5 yards per carry

Seattle—He had 160 yards on two carries so that’s still very inconsistent play

Indy—but he only had 91 yards that game and 64 of it was on one carry.

Green Bay—7 carries, 59 yards 8.4 yards per carry

Tennessee—15 carries, 83 yards, 5.5 yards per carry

So counting today’s game there have really only been 3 games where he consistently averaged 5.5 yards per carry and we lost two of those.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 14, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

My whole point

was that you can’t look at YPC and determine how consistent someone’s performance was, or even the quality of their performance. In my example above, the 2nd back actually has more yards, and a better YPC, but a worse overall performance than the 1st.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

i see...

and I agree, but you say that he gets those big runs in games in which he runs it 18 times….statistically that is my point. where you are looking for a measure of consistency, I am pointing out that he’s likely to pop off a 60 yard run if given his chances….meanwhile, we’re running clock, and the defense is put in favorable positions. I really think we could have taken TEN and SEA2 with a heavier dose of Gore, and in those contests, the game did not dictate otherwise.

BUT, alas niner fans, the evolution of this offense is happening before our eyes…crabtree is developing into a sure thing, VD is giving DC’s fits, and Smith is getting them the ball. Tonight was a consistent game from Gore, and we’ll see more as D’s try to figure us out.

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

the thing is

in games like the Seattle game, even though he had those big runs, he (and the oline) was constantly putting the offense in tough spots with 2nd and 3rd and longs.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

in other words

saying “well, let’s run it 20 times because he might bust one for 50+ even though he’s getting stuffed 80% of the time” is a terrible strategy.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yea,

and I feel like those days should be over. we’re good enough now to convert on more of those situations. crab and morgan have possession WR written all over them.

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

no

that’s still a terrible strategy.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

you're right

first downs are terrible.

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

no

2nd and 3rd and longs are. You don’t put yourself in a position of weakness on purpose just because you’ve got “possession receivers”

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

you're right

again. 2nd and 3rd and longs are bad. Possession WR’s are good…just because you’re a possession guy doesn’t mean you can’t break it for a score…just like gore. we have the makings of a very good ball control team. but again, when you can give it to a guy who can break it for a 60 yard play- sure, statistically you MAY average 3 yards, but if you can GUARANTEE 40 sec of clock, why not keep the ball in play?

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

it's not terrible...

it’s sound football. it worked tonight.
crab scored on an 8-10 yard inside slant that went for 35…. gore got the ball 18+ times…busted off a 36 yarder. that plays to our strengths…

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

it worked tonight

because the running game was consistently efficient.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

because
  1. You don’t GUARANTEE keeping the ball in play
  2. If you’re AVERAGING 3-4 yards with a 60 yard run, most of your runs are terrible, which means
  3. Your offense is terribly inefficient, and while you might use just as much game clock with a 3 and out with 3 runs up the gut, you use much more real time (and thus give your D more of a chance to rest) if you can operate efficiently.

Football, by and large, is a game of efficiency. The team that is more consistently efficient (on both sides of the ball) will win the vast majority of the time. Running with a boom or bust run game to the extent the Niners have had before this game is not a recipe for winning football.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll take 3-4 yard runs

Those do sustain drives. The bigger problem is negative runs and 0-yard runs. Those you can’t get anywhere with.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 15, 2009 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed!

I like a drive that ends well. That includes a drive that ends with our all star punter.

I’ll take gore’s 10TD and 1Fumble over smith’s 15 TD and 9 int’s / 1 fumble any time.

You see villiphied, you’re right about efficiency. You’re right that we get stuffed alot- but efficiency is not a measure of yards alone.

Any time you run the ball, you’re engaging the defense in contact. We have no excuse for not running at least 15 times each game. period.

by t p on Dec 15, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

in fact

it’s that same strategy that led to us leading the league in 3 and outs.

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

what you want to do with a boom and bust back

is run on 2nd and 5. (or play action if they stack the box). Because even a 2-yard gain leaves you with 3rd and 3 and lots of options.

Of course the tricky part is getting 5 yards on first down…

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by zenbitz on Dec 15, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

To clarify my previous comment

Earlier in the season Gore wasn’t pushing from behind holes and stopped moving his legs in the pile.

There were quite a few runs tonight when ARZ loaded the box and Frank Gore still slid out of the pile and kept pushing for more.
That’s the Frank Gore we all know and love.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

this

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by Viliphied on Dec 14, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

no

i don’t. We seemed pretty dedicated to using the Raye-Gun attack and nothing but. Hopefully Raye has found a nice balance between the two extremes we have featured so far this year.

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by dylanj on Dec 14, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

definitely his most consistent.

There were moments when it reminded me of the 2006 Seattle game when he rushed for 212. Just had guys bouncing off of him and picking up huge chunks of yardage after contact.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

O-Line's best game is being overlooked here--and on the telecast too.

They pass protected better than they have in weeks, and the ‘Baas pulls and seals the right side of the line’ play was working time and time again.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

agree 100%...

with this. totally overlooked. i promise in my game review that it will NOT be. that’s the total matchup domination, and reversal of a huuuuuuuuuuge matchup disadvantage, that made this game so lopsided.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

in my defense

the Niners OL is only for blaming when things go wrong, when they get no mention it means they did their damn jobs (FINALLY!).

Alex Smith may have been the #1 overall pick but he still can’t tell why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 14, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

haha...

i wasn’t specifically talking about your recap andrew. you didn’t have to defend yourself. i just meant that it went totally unmentioned in anything i’ve seen among the “punditry” since the game ended. unless…of course…you consider yourself a pundit. :-)

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

u would

stick up for urself, see u in Feb for the combine and April for the Draft…..

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Dec 29, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

please...

…understand that the niners didn’t just magically decide to use gore less the past few games. their OL was terrible. at the time, he had 4 40-yard runs and something like a 3.2 ypc on his other 100-something runs. they stopped giving him the ball because the OL couldn’t open any holes for him more than once every 40 carries. i dont know why people seem to think that they got away from gore for any other reason. do you think they decided to stop using him just to spite him or something? do you think they stopped using him because they think he sucks or something? i mean, they did go into the season with the intention of him being the entire offense. that says something about what the coaches think of him, for sure. what happened was that the OL couldn’t run-block to save their lives, so it became a law of diminishing returns to rely on gore so much.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with that

So what changed tonight?

We'll see them again in the playoffs! What channel is it on?

by silverjay on Dec 14, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

just a dominating performance...

they totally manhandled ARI’s DF7. i think raye realized this early on, and that’s why they kept going to gore. if OL can replicate tonight’s performance, then i’ll be the first one to say they need to run the ball more.

all i know is that, based on the matchups, this was probably about the least likely game outside of MIN that the 49ers could actually run the ball effectively. it totally defied everything i — or anyone else — knew about ARI’s DF7 and SF’s OL. so, i don’t think — based on 1 game — that the correct conclusion here is “run the ball 40 times a game” again.

one thing i do think might have played a role is the whole strategic concept of doing what the other guys least expect. SF had shown 3 games of shotgun passing offense and totally omission of gore’s running. i’m sure the coaches knew that that was what ARI was going to game plan for. there was no reason to think otherwise, esp considering that ARI knew they were much more vulnerable in the passing game on defense. so ARI’s DEF game plans for pass-pass-pass, raye sees that the OL is dominating in the early-going, and he shifts the focus of the offense to a counter-tendency run-run-run, which worked because ARI didn’t think for one second they’d do that.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Though that's not what AZ claimed last week

They stated their focus was still on Gore.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

This isn't measurable but...

One difference from this game and the opener, the Cards D-line was getting off on Hill’s snap count before our O-line. The crowd noise helped but Hill never altered his cadence. Could a big part of tonight be credited to Alex and the coaches knowing he needed to do that early, thus getting penalties and making them more passive? Add that we had the noise advantage and Raye had film to see alter what was ineffective last time and adjust the scheme for this game.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

AZ D-Line is always jumpy..

Saw that many times this season and last.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but Hill didn't use that against them

Smith, to his credit, did. Seemed in the opener that an AZ lineman was always hitting Gore in the backfield. Tonight, they were getting knocked off the ball on run plays.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

AZ kept getting bit..

by the snap count due to they not being disciplined. If Smith gets you in the snap count, then you have issues.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Give him some credit

He’s gotten other teams to jump. I can’t recall Hill doing that in his games. Maybe Alex will be one of those few QBs that excels at it.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll give him credit..

For doing things a lot of other QB’s do against AZ.

Hey, Smith can use a snap count! Whopee!!

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d still like to see the Delay of Games stop happening.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too

That’s on Raye and Johnson. I heard Plummer say on radio that Smith keeps telling the coaches to get the plays in quicker.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Me three..

But let’s also remember Smith just got back into football after almost having 2 years off form playing time.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

If your defense is dominating..

and taking away possessions from the opposition due to TO’s, you should try to run the ball. What I didn’t like in SEA was they were more Mike Martz than Singletary.

This game? Defense, Gore, and Card stupidity. 3 keys to this victory.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

except that...

gore wasn’t doing diddly squat even when given the chance against SEA…not his fault, the OL sucked. they were moving the ball with ease in the passing game, so they kept at it. tonight, they were moving it with ease in the running game, so they kept at it. to me, if this kind of “we’re able to stick with whatever’s working during the game, and be effective regardless” is really what this game says to me about their offense…if the OL can perform like this consistently in the future.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

True..

I just felt they really needed to at least try to be more physical and use some more ball control. SEA is horrid. I still can’t believe they lost that game.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i don't believe in...

doing something just for the sake of doing it…at least not when it comes to things like football. if something’s not working, stop doing it. if it’s working, continue it. the good teams have this ability to alternate from run to pass given the matchup and how the game is playing out. the niners OL prevents them from doing this, so “trying to be more physical” and “using more ball control” is nice, but it’s totally pointless if it’s doomed to failure.

that’s why i say tonight’s game was really about the fact that, perhaps, the 49ers OFF can — in fact — adjust during the game with equal effectiveness regardless of whether the adjustment is towards run or pass.

by Florida Danny on Dec 15, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

...

and that would be an astonishingly promising development if the OL can keep it up.

by Florida Danny on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess it's just how they matchup..

I may be simplifying here, but ‘Singletary Football’ worked this game, and it worked in others. The irony in the SEA game is that they tried something on ST’s, which is a huge problem still, and it didn’t work. I saw areas where they really didn’t need to be that aggressive, and if they just managed the game better while putting it on the defense and Gore, peppered with a few home run big pass plays, they could have won that game. SEA isn’t good. They suck. But of you’re gonna open up on the passing game, use a little more than All GO and seam routes. Mix in a slant or a screen. I see this pass offense out of the shotgun a simple scheme. Maybe if the pass offense was just a little more creative, then maybe they could try to run the ball a few more times with your best offensive weapon, the Tank.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

They ran out of the shotgun...

several times against the Cardinals and had success each time. I’m waiting for more play calling diversity when it comes to the passing game, especially out of the shotgun. I, also, would love to have seen some slants or some screens in this game.

Frankly, I was surprised the 49ers didn’t attempt to use play action passes to attempt to unclog the underneath routes the Cardinals were sitting on all night long.

by sigma on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought I saw..

One attempt at play action. Did I?

There are reasons why they use the shotgun, and I’m not against it. I’m more against passing from under center.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions  

at least 1

and strictly speaking that bubble screen to Crabtree (that actually went for a 1st down for the first time this season) is a PA pass, too.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 15, 2009 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

At least one

I think the pass was knocked down

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 15, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

they got away from him...

for some very good reasons. obviously not to his discredit…in fact, his role in pass protection has been a big part of alex smith getting some more time as of late.., not to mention as a receiver out of the backfield.
we’ve mostly been one-dimentional this season, either most-pass or most-run. tonight was a good mix. and i really liked what we saw from crab as a possession guy. he converted a nice third down late in the game and scored on RAC. that’s what we were hoping for with the run heavy gore awefense- eat clock and get first downs. now that we can get that through the air, we can get back to doing it on the ground too!

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

What will the "experts" say?

I do not look forward to reading/hearing the analysis of the game by the so-called experts. I expect to be told that the Card’s poor play, not the great play by the niners’ defense, was the reason the niners won. They will try NOT to give credit to the niners’ defense, just like the Bears game. The "experts" blamed Cutler for giving the game away and ignored what the niners’ defense did to force the errors.

by CorneliusJ on Dec 14, 2009 9:42 PM PST reply actions  

god i hate when people call something "America's" whatever

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

I prefer when they have intelligent people behind a microphone.
Speaking of which, Kurt Warner was remarkably articulate in his pre-game interview. I can see him in a suit and a headset a few years down the road. Anything to get Ross Tucker off the airwaves for good. Heck, I’ll let Warner attribute sacks to Jesus Christ himself if that’s what it takes.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

example:

“Did you see what the defensive end did there? The way he dips his shoulder to the inside before going into the spin move? That’s what you call setting up the left tackle up—and now he just accelerates around the corner—that’s all on my man Jesus—if that defensive end weren’t formed by the Word of God, there’s no way he would’ve had that kind of explosiveness to put that kind of hit on the quarterback. Great job by Jesus.”

I think this improves the entertainment value. You?

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a combo of both..

The Cards were horribly prepared for this game, and the 49ers were well prepared for it. The 49ers were gonna win this game with the defense and Gore. The Cards were gonna lose this game by stupid penalties and turnovers.

When you rattle Warner, good things happen.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

i believe someone...

listed “put pressure on warner” as a key to victory…in some column on some site somewhere on the net.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Congrats

I feel good that my key player of the game was Goldson, and that he needed to force at least 2 turnovers.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I've said the "Rattle Warner" thingy..

Back the his Ram days. One thing I notice about Warner is that the defense gets to him early, it affects his decisions and timing later. The 49ers took him out and the rest of the offense, because it all goes through Warner.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty much every...

QB plays worse when feeling the heat. it’s easier said than done. in this matchup, it was strength vs. strength, and the niners overcame the matchup. kudos to them.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Warner is more fragile..

in that area, and when he is off just a bit, it permeates into the entire offense. Especially when he didn’t have Faulk.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

well, yeah...

warner does seem more rattled than most. but, i’d say brady and peyton are the same way. they get hit so rarely that, when they do, it totally screws them up.

by Florida Danny on Dec 14, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Teams that don't have running games..

have those issues when the QB is off a bit. But in AZ’s case, the entire team goes into Hyde mode when Warner is off. Even when Manning is a bit off, his team still doesn’t completely fall apart like it did in the past. Same with NE. When Warner needed his team to make plays, they couldn’t. Credit a lot of that to the 49er defense, but they don’t play the 49ers the other 14 games, and they have crapped the bed against other lesser teams as far as talent.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

that makes sense i guess...

but i would offer in rebuttal that peyton manning before he became !!!PEYTON “THE SUPER BOWL WINNER” MANNING!!! essentially caused his entire team to fall apart back when they had those playoff losses to PIT and NE. they put pressure on him, and IND totally fell apart. maybe it doesn’t happen anymore, but it was a hallmark of NFL Playoff football to witness IND totally falling apart every time they faced NE or PIT’s consant pressure on peyton.

by Florida Danny on Dec 15, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

True..

but Manning has only had 2 seasons where his team had less than 10 wins. Sure he had to get past the playoff hump. But I can’t compare Warner and Manning due to their respective situations. Warner has lost confidence in 2 teams before AZ. There is a lot behind that, but a lot of it was due to he facing pressure and how he dealt with it.

Heck, people forget that Warner has thrown a ton of picks with the Rams. It’s what Warner does.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah...

they’re situations are different, so comparing team results is like apples and oranges…just wanted to make the point that there was a point in time in which peyton exhibited the same kind of “deer in the headlights…that all of his teammates see” collapse when faced with PIT & NE’s pass rush pressure.

by Florida Danny on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The good thing about hitting Warner

Or even sneezing on him, is that he becomes a turnover machine.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends

I would say that a few of the turnovers were on the Cardinals players for not being smart.
But on a lot of fumbles the 49ers made some HUGE hits.
No player could have hung on to the ball on the 2nd FF by Goldson.
And we all know that Warner fumbles a lot….I don’t know why ESPN was surprised (good job by Brooks going for the ball though).

This game was definitely the 49ers dominating the Cardinals.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

People kept on harping about how sloppily the Cards played

Looked more to me like they ran up against a defense they weren’t prepared for. I mean Brooks turned their LT into a turnstile and Goldson’s hit and Roman’s strip were just impressive.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The Cards were sloppy alright..

Smith had their jump offsides 3 times on one early drive. The Cards always do that. The 49ers got into the Cards head hard, and they got totally out of sync. They looked like a JV team out there.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It was total domination..

TOP, yards, etc. The Cards didn’t have a prayer, even when they did pray.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 14, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

re: the prayer circle

what does that say about a team—when they resort to ‘inspirational speeches’ by Boldin and a prayer circle when the game is still within reach?
Smacks a little of desperation to me.
And we all know that God is a Bill Walsh fan anyways…

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 14, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The niners D

played well, and Manusky had a great scheme. When he’s good (Minny, Indy, Arz) he’s good, but when he’s bad (Atl, Sea)… (although I guess the Seattle game could be blamed more on poor tackling than bad scheme).

6 fumbles (not counting the INT/Fumble)… that’s a little on the flukey side. Not that the strips weren’t executed well (they were), but you can’t usually rely on getting that kind of fumble action. Also, the niners recovered most of them, which is certainly luck.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Dec 14, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Seattle wasn't on the defense

13 yard drive for a TD after a fumble. 34 yard drive for a Fg after a fumble return. And they gave up one first down all 3rd quarter despite having poor defensive field position.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

nor was IND, TEN, or HOU

IND- limp offense
TEN – poor clock management, and short fieldS for the TEN offense (off picks)
HOU- fumbled punt

our defense has had to defend a number of short fields this year, and has performed admirably this year. I would say our defense was only bad in the Green Bay game….and I just don’t know what to say about ATL…that was just a flat footed niner team losing to a really jacked team coming off a bye week. offense and defense dropped the ball there.

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

ATL and GB

Though going with the whole win and lose as a team, they had opportunities to get the ball back in the Indy and Houston games and completely failed in the former.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Dec 14, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm comfortable

with our evolution, to think that we’ll make the most of these situations. Our defense is too good- now that we have a team that can score, we’ll be cashing in on the short fields!

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

we still have hope...

and next year if we get one good o-line man and a pass-rusher and the kind of kick-ass play we got from the d there is no way we loose the nfc west. This team just needs to believe in themselves. and the arizona color commentator is an idiot – what an idiot.GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by NYC N on Dec 14, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

that was a great win

but the best part for me was when I got to break out the ban-hammer on that jackass who was trying to sell us something in the comments. Never been able to do that before

/high on power

A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.

by wjackalope on Dec 14, 2009 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

+1

thanks for your good deed

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

We salute you

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Dec 14, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

For the last time, I was only trying to sell my body. And I was able to unban myself.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

How did I miss out on this limited time offer?!

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by Rishi on Dec 15, 2009 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

patrick willis....

even though beanie made the play on that ARi TD, how awesome was patrick willis? he owned the OL on the initial push. a thing of beauty…

by t p on Dec 14, 2009 10:15 PM PST reply actions  

the only reason Patrick Willis didnt stop that

TD was because FItzgerald basically just laid on top of him in the pile. I noticed it on the replay

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

woulda been nice...

to have a safety rolling in behind him on that one.

by t p on Dec 15, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

One of those rare games...

… that the 49ers are allowed to be themselves. However, they have slim hopes of making the playoffs. For the 7th consecutive season, they will be excluded.

by More False Hope on Dec 14, 2009 10:30 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t be talking about season failure . . . save that for tomorrow.

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

how is it a failure to sweep the Cards?

by Hoopers Judge on Dec 14, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what I was referring too.

However, they have slim hopes of making the playoffs. For the 7th consecutive season, they will be excluded.

by bignerd on Dec 14, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry, bit of a mix-up.

by Hoopers Judge on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

More like,

This is what happens when the OL makes running a viable option.

by CorneliusJ on Dec 15, 2009 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

There was a lot more to this game than just Frank Gore.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

U suck Drew - From Derb not PMA

hahahha you wrote this whole mess?!??!?! when did u find the time to write this hott mess… u should write for the Lions, at least the Leos have some note worthy stories… I could sit here and give u the everyday VD and Crabs joke, but I won’t, I want to but I won’t. C u New Years u prick!!! shutgun on three on three

Bernard, Percy and AP oh my!

by VikesPma on Dec 29, 2009 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

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