Singletary admits run, run, run was a bad idea ...
by KORY SHEETS WAS OUR FUTURE on Dec 2, 2009 6:30 PM PST
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This is why Shaun Hill started losing..
Why did the 49ers win and Alex Smith look so good all of a sudden ? Real simple ! Just put him in the Shotgun position and stop running the ball every down with a crappy Offensive line. The Shotgun formation gave Alex Smith more time to look around and pass. Shaun Hill was winning when he was in the Shotgun formation also. But then he was forced to come up to center and hurry every play. And they was running on 1st and second down also, leaving Shaun Hill in a stressful situation, to try and make up for the loss of yards. So now Alex Smith gets Shaun Hills job because of poor play calling. Sounds very unfair to me.... SHAUN HILL ROCKS !!
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so lemme get this straight
Alex Smith has his best game of the season and you’re calling for Shaun Hill? Not the best pan post.
wanna hear a funny joke? the Buccaneers picked Gaines Adams over Patrick Willis
no, you were right the first time
pan post sums this up nicely, because it belongs in a pan, a bed pan.
by Andrew Davidson on Dec 2, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Shaun Hill would have done just as good or better with the same play calling.
What most of you dont realize is their success is mostly because of play calling, and what keeps you safe and gives you time to be successful as a QB, ( Offensive Line ). Shaun Hill was kicking major ass when he was in the Shotgun position and when they let him pass more. But then the play calling changed and Shaun Hill was put up on the line instead of being placed in the Shotgun just like Alex Smith last game. And they used the run as a last resort instead of running on first and second downs, then trying to pass when the defense is set up for pass because it is 3rd down. Very stupid play calling, just like you brain dead fans.
by KORY SHEETS WAS OUR FUTURE on Dec 2, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Shaun Hill can't throw a 15 yard out route
Crabtree runs a lot of those routes…
?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Dec 3, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
"What most of you don't realize"
I love when people act like they have some major insight that no one else does. Yes, the 49ers offensive play calling has really blown this year. That’s hardly a major revelation. And I don’t actually remember Shaun Hill playing out of the shotgun that much, even early on. What Hill benefited from was playing against weaker teams.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Yeah, I get that a lot
Yes, I'm sure Jerry Rice never dropped a single pass in his entire football career.
There’s really no doubt in my mind that it’s a joke.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
2009 Stats:
Smith: 62.2 comp%, 6.5 y/a, 11 TD/7 INT, 42 DYAR, -6.7% DVOA
Hill: 56.1 comp%, 6.1 y/a, 5 TD/2 INT, -190 DYAR, -29.4 DVOA
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Now Compare Hill's win loss % to Smith's
and don’t give that weaker team BS. Hill led the winning drive against Cardinals in September and what should have been the winning drive against the Vikings. Both in late 4th quarter come from behind fashion. What is it about you-all who always toe the company line here, ridiculing anyone who dissents?
by Aristophanes on Dec 20, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
How’s everything with you?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Kinda stressed, and even though I’m trying not to complain about it, I keep telling everybody I see or talk to. But pretty good in general, I guess.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone up for another thread hi-jack?
The last one was blissfully entertaining
I want winners! I want people that WANT to win!
How about favorite past-times/recreational activities:
I absolutely love camping over on the coast in the summer months and spending my time:
Surf fishing.
Walking on the beach with my wife.
My wife makes me go with her to the little shops in the coastal towns: Morro Bay, Cambria, Cayucos, etc.
Eating in restaurants specializing in Sea Food entrees.
And I like the cool weather; it’s a great change from the HOT valley summers.
I like
hiking and trout fishing in the high sierra.
by bakoninerfan on Dec 2, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
Wakeboarding and jet-skiing in the summer and Quads in the dunes in the fall
And as much traveling to different places as posible
Btw, good topic for the hi-jack
All noisy fossil fuel polluting planet warming hobbies and, yes, hostile to thought.
So is this the crowd that hijacks a thread by a someone who dissents from the
Alex Smith Is Our Future Crowd?
by Aristophanes on Dec 20, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
I used to live in Morro Bay / Cayucos. It was really nice there.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
as far as rec. activities
nothing really now because I’m a poor student, but I REALLY want to go to Alabama for the Iron Bowl next year, and maybe hit up New Orleans too while I’m down there.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
New Orleans is completely and totally worth the trip.
Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!
by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 3, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hell yes.
"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."
by LongLiveLangerhans on Dec 3, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
My recreational activities is taking mini-vacations!
When I have the money, I take random weekend trips as often as possible in my free time. My most recent was a trip to Chicago a few weekends ago to see the city and watch the Sharks play the Blackhawks. But in the past two years I’ve also done weekends in Philly, New Orleans, Las Vegas, San Diego, Central Oregon, Seattle, Tampa, Grand Canyon, Lake Tahoe, camping on the Sonoma Coast…oh, yeah, and I spent a week in Mexico in Cozumel. So, yeah, when I save up a little money, I tend to spend my weekends elsewhere in the country (Mexico trip aside). It’s fun, and it keeps me entertained!
Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!
by ZeroIndulgence on Dec 3, 2009 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
Central Oregon is incredible
Sometimes I lay in bed at night and wonder if McCloughan ever thought about becoming a gynecologist.
drinking
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Strange but true,
Too much water can kill you.
Not strange at all. Your body relies on things like sodium, sugar, and potassium in the bloodstream because these molecules and electrolytes play critical roles in the nervous system, triggering receptors and allowing nerve messages to travel electrically from the source to the muscle.
When you drink too much water, you dilute the store of essential minerals and electrolytes in your bloodstream, and if you dilute it too much, then you remove the elements that allow the receptors in the nervous system to fire. This causes muscle and organ failure, and you die.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Ha.
I was actually going to write a follow-up about tetrodotoxin, but then I decided it was really too much of a stretch.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
All I know is when I finish drinking my 5 gallons per day of water, I feel more hydrated than a tub o’ bathwater!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Your skin must be amazing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
well thats obviously the part
where Billy is speaking gibberish to Eric during his Dad’s business lunch. The appropriate picture would have involved Billy being in a class room.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
i'll turn this damn bus around
that’ll end you PRECIOUS little field trip pretty quick
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
Picture
The reason I chose that picture is because I wanted to see a blue duck…. They were actually fresh out of those pictures at google…someone musta grabbed the last copy before I could get there.
If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk.
lol what do you think Mr Duck?
that’s quacktastic!
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
I absolutely love camping over on the coast in the summer months
Absolutely the best kind of places to camp, especially if you live in a place where the temperatures are always in the 90s during the summer.
Where I live:
We sometimes get several days over 110 in the summer. One year we had a solid week of 110+.
I know exactly what you mean.
90s are considered cool days for at least a week every summer. I try to spend as many weekends as I can along the coast during the summer, especially during those weeks.
Same here
I’m from Bakersfield and last summer I came to the east bay for a family reunion. It got to about 90 degrees and all the bay area people were really complaining about the heat. I just laughed and enjoyed the nice weather.
by bakoninerfan on Dec 3, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Here in the UK ...
… we sometimes get two or three days, four in an amazing year, where it doesn’t rain at all. Not even a little bit. If we’re really lucky, there’s one or two days where it isn’t cloudy, and last year we had an unbroken SEVEN HOURS where the sun came out. SEVEN HOURS! SUNSHINE WAS OUR FUTURE!
"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...
Now I understand
“here comes the sun” by the Beatles. I don’t think I could make it in the U.K. based on the weather alone. Here in CA’s central valley the sun shines all day 95% of the time. During the dog days of summer our overnight lows are usually in the low 80’s.
sounds like seattle
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
whereabouts in the valley are you?
I hail from Visalia. And yeah, camping at the coast is one of the nicer breaks we get from the 5 months of 100 degree weather. Ugh.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 3, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure who you’re asking,
But I live in Coalinga. We’re usually a few degrees hotter than Fresno.
But that’s really just because of all of the cow poo.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, yes it does.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Whoops! Somebody got site decorumed.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
who the hell is kory sheets?
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
kory sheets
that’s dutch for pooping the bed.
by Andrew Davidson on Dec 3, 2009 6:58 AM PST up reply actions
Bear Pascoe ...
… Man, I’d already forgotten he existed.
"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...
Alex Smith has more talent.
And he’s coming around.
Get off the Hill bandwagon.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Dec 3, 2009 10:33 AM PST reply actions
The last thing we need is yet another change at QB
I too am a Shaun Hill fan, but he’s been set up to fail from the beginning. Even after he had a good end of 2007 season, he was still passed over in 2008 for JTO and Jamie Martin. The organization has never told him that he’s “the guy,” but have always made him fight for his job as starter. Let’s not forget that Vernon Davis’ first TD ever was from a Shaun Hill pass. I agree that the playcalling and inconsistency at positions is what’s been holding the Niners back. That being said, let’s let Alex Smith ride this season out and hope the protection for him gets better.
What we really need is a kick returner. I hope Brit Miller can be that guy for us the rest of the season.
Shaun Hill was never behind Jamie Martin on the depth chart.
In the time that Shaun Hill has had to fight to be the starter, Alex Smith has also had to fight to be the starter.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Until you’re a top level quarterback, along the lines of a Montana, Young, Manning, Brady, or Elway, you should never go into the season with the expectation that you’re the starter. And even then, you’d best be looking over your shoulder so as not to get complacent.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I think you misunderstood
He was not genuinely curious. He likes to see himself as important.
Or, to put it another way: groug, meet KORY SHEETS WAS OUR FUTURE. His posts are best only after they’ve been hijacked.
Yes, I'm sure Jerry Rice never dropped a single pass in his entire football career.
Yo Sheets Fanatic, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but Smith had one of the best arms of all recent 49ers QB.
ONE OF THE BEST!!!!
Win the inning.
KORY SHEETS WAS OUR FUTURE
I think this is really Shaun Hill posting these on here! I mean really, the only person that could love Shaun Hill that much would be himself, right? Okay, maybe it is a relative of some sort? If not, then Shaun Hill should be afraid that this person might stalk him!
11-5... So I was overly Optimistic! Maybe Next year!
Dude, how’d you get through your entire posting without once mentioning how the Niners messed up by not keeping Kory Sheets?
For shaaaaaame! Kory’s mother would be ashamed of you right now!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I really couldn’t care less which quarterback is succeeding, as long as one of them is.
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
Cain is able... Keane is able
I really couldn’t care less…
YES!!!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
The grammar?
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
Cain is able... Keane is able
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 3, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
YES!!!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
Good grammar is not a bad thing. Good grammar is good communication. And good communication is always desirable.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
I never joke.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Totally serious
Don’t be a mormon…
Yes, I'm sure Jerry Rice never dropped a single pass in his entire football career.
How about a psychological analysis
Before someone can buy a computer, phone with internet capabilities, and shut down libraries internet options, will it help?
"CHILD PLEASE"......................-E. Ochocinco
Ignorance is truly bliss!!
Nolan, that (site decroum) is gonna beat us to Berry!!
Let's start a poll.
Either KSWOF is a satirical genius or a complete moron. What do you think?
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
I don't think I know anymore
I mean, when he said we had our heads shoved up our [site decorum(s) Would it be site decori?], I think he was actually serious. But I think the mystery is what this guy aims for.
Sometimes I lay in bed at night and wonder if McCloughan ever thought about becoming a gynecologist.
by Mr. Nice Guy on Dec 3, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Satirical moron?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
What kind of things can one come up with for those initials? KSWOF. Sounds like call letters for a radio station plus 1
Kangaroos
Slaughter
Wallabees
On
Friday’s
?
?
?
?
Try using game history and logic to challenge KSWOF
As opposed to ridicule.
None of you in the Hill Is Insufficiently Beautiful crowd have offered a rationale to rebut KSWOF.
And yes, again, compare win loss records of Shaun and Alex
by Aristophanes on Dec 20, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
win-loss records
Wins are not a QB stat. Football is team game. Comparing wins without comparing context doesn’t help.
by David Fucillo on Dec 20, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
Twisted Logic
Please name any five or ten great QB’s who are considered great but have losing records. And I am fine with arguing context, whatever you mean by that. Just let me
know.
by Aristophanes on Dec 20, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
context
When I say context I just mean looking at the opponents, the players, etc…
And I have never once said that Alex Smith is clearly the answer, or that he will be great, or whatever. I think he has potential, but obviously hasn’t proven that yet. I just think the arguments people make about the record of one QB versus another doesn’t help determine the situation.
While it’s true that most great QBs have great records, it’s usually because they were part of a great team. A quarterback can’t win a game on his own, just as a running back or a wide receiver or anybody else. It’s so context specific, unlike any of the other major sports.
Sure Brett Favre threw a great pass to beat the 49ers earlier this season, but Greg Lewis had to make a great catch.
Sure Steve Young made a great throw to Terrell Owens in The Catch II, but TO had Steve Young wasn’t the one getting popped in the end zone after making a tough catch.
by David Fucillo on Dec 20, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
BRENDAN SCOLARI WAS OUR FUTURE
I just had to do that…and I picked Brendan’s name…
I just love how people will create usernames to make a statement about some current event…do they plan on not using it after a while once nobody remembers what the heck they’re talking about? Or do they not have the foresight to see that their username is a long term thing?
Maybe he got into the Budweiser?
Yes, I'm sure Jerry Rice never dropped a single pass in his entire football career.
I found a picture of the prototype for Goodell's new and improved concusion proof helmets
We met in a past life and you were wrong then too
Shaun Hill in 2010
Howdy KSWOF. You are obviously the most aware, logical, and football savvy fellow commenting here. And, like thoughtful folks throughout time, you are ostracized and ridiculed for speaking truth to kowtowing bandwagon jumpers. When Hill was yanked after 1.5 bad games his record was still 10 wins 5.5 losses. You and I may have been the only commenters here to note that Singletary’s mistake in replacing Hill cost the Niners their chance at the playoffs.
OK. Let Nate Davis start one of the final games. Let Hill take on one, only this time with the same offense now in place. Shop Smith in the off season for a great back up QB. And let that guy, Hill, and Davis compete fairly next August.
Then too, how about a coach with a sense of humor who can relate without platitudes in every sentence.
KSWOF,,,, continue to bug the dominant mentality here at Niner Nation.
half losses?
Really? Alex Smith may not be the long term answer, but Shaun Hill isn’t a better option, even remotely.
by David Fucillo on Dec 20, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Fooch, You Fall for Bandwagon Effect
Neither you nor I have time to check it out, but if we go back to review all of Niner history
with the good to great QB’s being Y.A. Tittle, Billy Kilmer, John Brodie, Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Jeff Garcia …. My guess is that only Steve Young went 10 & 5 in his first fifteen starts with this once great franchise.
And if you come back with the weak arm argument, I’ll have to retire from 9 to 5 job to review the game films to show the clips to prove you wrong; Vernon Davis and Josh Morgan were doing very well, thank you, with Shaun at QB. Speed burner Vernon led all tight ends at the point Hill was yanked.
But it DOES seem you are on board with York, MCL, and Singletary on this issue. Now that’s quite a group to want to be seen associating with.
by Aristophanes on Dec 20, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
wins and losses
This could go on all day.
As far as Hill is concerned, I really don’t think the offense was operating anywhere near the level it could with Hill back there. He certainly could make some plays, but I jut don’t think he is anywhere close to being a long term answer. And if you think I’m on board with the front office because of that, so be it.
by David Fucillo on Dec 20, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Tittle
And YA Tittle was 12-4 in his first 16 starts with the 49ers.
by David Fucillo on Dec 20, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Great Research, Thanks Man.
And no I don’t think SH is our long term future. I do hold, however, that we would have made it into the playoffs this year with him at the helm. Maybe it was you who suggested we try to trade Smith for one of the best current back-ups and draft a QB in
the second or third round. Let the two new guys duke it out in August with Davis and Hill.
Hill could be a one or two year 9 & 7, 10 & 6 “manager” until Davis or new draftee is ready.
Again, thanks for the rapid research. I stand corrected, that’s then Tittle and Young who are up there with Hill to start the career.
Thanks for the chat.
by Aristophanes on Dec 20, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
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