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Niners Nation 101: Comments, FanPosts and general site decorum

Although the season is coming to an end, the site continues to grow as we get new members joining up every single day.  We welcome all new members to the site as everybody has something of interest to bring to the table.  However, it's important for new members to operate within the rules and decorum of the site.  While we do have rules on certain aspects of participation, I think they generally do a good job of raising the level of discourse on the site.  As the team has struggled, it's easy for folks to get angry and lash out, so I am posting this just to remind people of the kind of atmosphere we'd like to maintain at Niners Nation.

Comments
When you register at the site, you have to agree to the community guidelines, which includes no swearing outside of game threads.  The reasoning behind it is that in a game thread you're reacting to something the moment it happens.  Outside of game threads (with a few rare exceptions), you're able to take time to think about your response and articulate it properly.  If you feel the need to swear about something, stop, take a moment and reword it without the swear word.  It's as simple as that.

However, an additional rule that I don't think is articulated well enough (even if it should be obvious), is that we really don't want personal attacks being leveled at opposing commenters.  Sure you might get annoyed by something someone says, but either ignore the person, or reply with an intelligent, logical, cogent comment.  It can be hard being the bigger man, but you'll gain greater respect for it.  Calling somebody an idiot or a moron, or any other insult, only causes other people to discredit your own comments on a topic.

I also wanted to address the issue of grammar very briefly.  You don't have to obey the general rules of grammar on Niners Nation.  If you can make your point without being grammatically correct, then so be it.  However, one reason for putting together even a semblance of grammar is that I think you'll get a better response to your opinion (although not always favorable of course) if you articulate it in an easy to read manner.  You may be making an absolutely excellent point, but people might either not get it, or choose to ignore it because of the grammar issues.  I'm not here to be the grammar police (we certainly have others for that), but it is something to at least keep in mind when you're writing a comment.  Now, if you're writing a FanPost, I think grammar is even more important since the FanPost is something that will likely be seen by more people than a single comment.  But again, these are merely suggestions.

FanPosts/FanShots/Comments
The biggest running issue is people creating FanPosts on a topic when it is unnecessary.  Earlier in the spring, I posted a rundown on how FanPosts and FanShots operate.  If you joined the site since that post went up, I strongly encourage you to read it over.  I'll do a brief synopsis of when something is appropriate as a FanPost versus a comment or FanShot.  If you're just posting a link to something, it's likely best suited as a FanShot, or a comment in a related post.  If you're posting a link to an article and breaking down the arguments of that article, then it might be more worthy of being a FanPost.

A FanPost involves you taking a look at some topic and providing some detailed analysis.  If you have a question to generate discussion (such as "Who should the 49ers consider with their two first round picks), that's fine.  However, provide your own insight on the topic.  Furthermore, if you have to type in a single word over and over and over again to meet the 75 word minimum, 99% of the time your post should be a comment or a FanShot.  In a FanShot you can provide a link, or embed something, or just put a comment up.

If you do put up a FanPost that should be a comment or FanShot, I will usually let you know a change needs to be made, delete your FanPost, and either email you the contents of your FanPost, or use our network warning system so you can get the contents and paste them somewhere else.  It's never a personal issue.  It's simply the best way to keep the site organized and running tight.  If we have 100 FanPosts about the draft operating at once, it makes it hard to follow the conversation.  These rules and suggestions are meant to improve the experience at the site.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about any of this, either comment here or feel free to email me at .

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One way to "police" the grammar..

Howie Points. Make it the “Rec” feature.

Of course, my deficit is worse than the National Deficit.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 22, 2009 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

"Make it like"...

Darn, I keep burying myself here.

An edit function is much needed.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 22, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome to any new users.

You’ll grow to love me, I’m sure.

You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.

by James Brady on Dec 22, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

In the spirit of this post

can we delete “niners are a joke” post. Not only does it violate guidelines, it is insulting to the team and the intelligence of this blog. Hurts my eyes every time i log on.

by Slim415 on Dec 22, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

fanpost

It’s rec time should be running out. Also, that user has been banned due to repeated violations.

by David Fucillo on Dec 22, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Its rec post ...

… no need for the apostrophe. Just filling in for Howie there Fooch ;)

But seriously, well said. This site is special and means something worth defending. There are so many sites out there where you can exchange childish insults while discussing the Niners. Here’s a site that has a genuine community feel, that has a bunch of adults discussing the team in a mature and adult way. I’ve learned so much, as a European guy who is not necessarily a native of the game (although I have loved it for years) from a bunch of people who are knowledgeable and friendly, marshalled by the marvellous Fooch, our illustrious leader. I love it here. If you want to swear and talk about how much you’d love to meet a real-life girl, there’s probably other Niner websites for you …

"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...

by LondonNiner on Dec 22, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanted to post a sarcastic comment insulting you for the sake of irony.

But then I realized it was you and you’re probably my favorite user here. (Shh, don’t tell anybody.)

You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.

by James Brady on Dec 22, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks James ....

… nice of you to say so. I’m so touched, I won’t even make a comment on the z in realised, but I also understand that’s an Anglo-American difference, and disagreements over z’s and s’s beats shooting each other with muskets, right? I love evreryone on NN, although I admit that having just stopped work for Xmas, I’m a little woosy on the wine and d-mob happy …

"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...

by LondonNiner on Dec 22, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahaha, back off my ZEE, sir.

Did I mention I love this guy? Seriously.

(if anyone comes in and says “zed” so help me I will resign.)

You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.

by James Brady on Dec 22, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

And thanks for the correction :) Glad to see howie has a backup.

I think the site still has work to do because we still get a decent amount of childish fighting, but I definitely think we’ve taken a big step forward.

by David Fucillo on Dec 22, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

one thing i've noticed

is that this site is NOT an appropriate place to sell anything. please we get enough of that elsewhere.
Although charitable info dealing with the team does seem appropriate to me .

by srill waiting on Dec 22, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

selling stuff

If folks have tickets they’re trying to unload I don’t mind FanShots about that (I’d prefer they not use FanPosts). Can’t sell them for a premium hear, but can negotiate via email with interested parties.

by David Fucillo on Dec 22, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Sactown Royalty had to publish a post like this a couple of days ago. It must be that time of the year for people to be crazy.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 22, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

i just joined in with them today. after that HUGE comeback last night.

by srill waiting on Dec 22, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad this was posted

And, I gotta say I admire the tolerance exhibited by all the moderators on this site.

On another SB Nation blog, one user called another an idiot, so I mentioned that was a rude thing to do. Guess what? The name caller turned out to be a moderator and imagine my surprise when I tried to log in there the next time and found I had been temporarily banned and told to never speak to a moderator that way again. lol

If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.

by cybermaldonado on Dec 22, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions  

tolerance

Every SB Nation site brings a little something different to the table when it comes to moderating their sites. I think I’m probably one of the more reasonable people, although sometimes that can be to my detriment. It’s amazing how people that would likely be very pleasant and polite in person come online and can be childish and mean, or just plain bizarre. I like to think that giving folks some leash and letting them off with warnings will turn them into more productive commenters, as opposed to just outright banning them.

by David Fucillo on Dec 22, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

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