Mike Singletary Approval Rating, Week 15
by David Fucillo on Dec 22, 2009 7:00 AM PST
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We're back for the latest round of the Mike Singletary Approval Rating. I haven't had the Greg Manusky or Jimmy Raye ratings up recently, but I'll try and get them going again in the next couple days. It'd be nice to have a bit of a base when we head into the offseason and start assessing what went down in 2009.
In the meantime, the roller coast that is the Mike Singletary Approval Rating continues. Last week, following the big win over Arizona, Coach Singletary's approval rating skyrocketed from 67% to 96%. The team dominated on defense, did enough on offense, and had everybody in a very positive mood. Of course, as has been the case, the team followed the win up with a loss, likely meaning another drop in the rating. The 49ers have alternated wins and losses for the last seven weeks and it has certainly been rather maddening.
Coach Singletary acknowledged in his press conference that the team had some problem areas, but he also made a point to say:
I think it's a good situation to have when I can't just sit here and go, ‘Oh, we've got a problem here. We've got a problem there.' I think we've got to sit down and look at the film and, as a staff, kind of go through it and really look at we have to address this issue and that issue and move on."
He discussed how he thought the offensive line was improving, as well as the defensive secondary. Given Adam Snyder's performance on Sunday, I'd hope he can recognize the problem. My guess is that he's just not looking to throw players under the bus at this point. Maybe it turns out to be misleading, but for now I'm fine with that. He's a players' coach and it seems reasonable to want to avoid bad-mouthing players to the press. Back when the team was starting to tinker with the offense under Alex Smith, Singletary specifically mentioned how when Smith came to him, Singletary listened and then directed him to Jimmy Raye. He's spoken about players being men and handling their problems directly. I'd assume that's part of why he won't come out and talk about the specific problem areas of the offensive line.
After the jump, I had a thoughts on the ESPN approval ratings...
ESPN rolls out their weekly coaches' ratings and Singletary currently sits around 64%. I was looking over the rest of the rankings and for the most part not too surprised. However, there are two specific ratings I wanted to bring up. First is Norv Turner, who sits at the top of the ratings at 90%. San Diego is playing well, so it's certainly not surprising that Turner's rating would be high. The Chargers have won 9 games in a row so that has allowed it to continually rise each week. The issue I have is that this is Norv bleepin Turner. Is it just a matter of waiting for the inevitable postseason collapse?
What I find a bit more bizarre is the fact that the Colts head coach currently has a rating of 75%, even though his team is 14-0. His rating is lower than the likes of Mike Smith (Falcons 7-7), Jeff Fisher (Titans 7-7) and Tony Sparano (Dolphins 7-7). Caldwell's weekly ranking is actually incredibly bizarre when you look at weeks 11 and 12. For some reason, Caldwell's rating was 23% those two weeks. I don't know if it was somebody stuffing the box for some bizarre reason, but either way it's odd.
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voted yes
I believe he’s got the locker room under control which is the main reason for the vote. any other team under these circumstances folds in my opinion.
voted No
If Singletary isn’t a hall of famer people would be calling for his head. In the very least he would be under more hot water.
The fact that he said Smith and the O-line had a better game then he originally thought is just horrifying to me. Smith had a negative DYAR meaning an average QB could do better then him! So why is he backing him. I mean at some point you got to start losing confidence in him right. I mean what if he has the same up and down season next year? When do we cut him off?
So the O-line is terrible, everyone knows that. Frank Gore is a top 5 running back who gets most of his yards when he gets away from his line. So why not put him in space, you can run the ball out of the spread just as much as you can with 9 blockers. Also coming into the season Singletary was saying how we are going to hit people in the mouth. Has he backed that in anyway whatsoever. We don’t go and use any of our top draft picks on linemen. Chilo Rachal might be the worst guard in the league. And he was one of his “Pet Projects”
I literally do not see why he is a good coach. With Shanhan and Holegrem out there why are we settling for this.
Calling for his head after
going 8-8 his rookie season as a coach??? That seems a bit extreme no matter who is the head coach. Especially considering that we finished last year with a losing record and more than likely will finish with a .500 record. I am more willing to give a coach a chance for more than a year personally unless that coach finished like 1-15 or something…but that’s just me
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
If Singletary isn’t a hall of famer people would be calling for his head.
If you want to avoid reactionary analysis, you’d be okay with the job Singletary is doing, especially considering the Niners have been a far more effective franchise than they were under Nolan or Erickson. I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t really agree. And nobody should fire a head coach after one season, where the results are right in the middle of the road.
Smith had a negative DYAR meaning an average QB could do better then him!
This screams reactionary, again. How has Smith done during the course of the season? He’s produced some fairly good games, he’s shown some growth, and he’s had some games that appear to be setbacks. For my money, I think he’s doing just fine, and still has the potential to take a good step forward next year. I’m not saying he WILL, but I am saying it’s very possible, and pretty likely, that he will.
With Shanhan and Holegrem out there why are we settling for this.
Holmgren is the president of the Browns, he is not out there. Also, we’re settling for this because a) unless your name is Scott McCloughan or Jed York, you probably don’t have hiring/firing power over the head coach, b) the Raiders are a pretty cautionary tale as to what happens when you fire your head coach every year, and c) it’s not like the 49ers are so awful that firing Singletary is really justifiable.
Let’s try to avoid being TOO reactionary.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Shanahan?
The guy with one playoff win the past eleven years? And whose team blew a three game lead with three game to go last season? I think people would want to avoid settling for that kind of coaching.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I actually have kind of mixed feelings about Shanahan. After Elway, he had Brian Griese, Jake Plummer, and Jake Cutloler to work with. Brian Griese had exactly three good seasons in his career, but the Bronco teams he was on only had one losing year. Then Jake Plummer was at the absolute pits of a career that had long since spiraled down the toilet. Plummer, who had never had a completion percentage higher than 59.2%. Plummer who had never thrown more than 18 touchdowns in a season. Plummer, who was so screwed up that he practically averaged 20 INTs a year without trying. And Shanahan singlehandedly turned his entire career around. Suddenly, and for 3 years, Plummer wasan efficient quarterback who eclipsed his career highs in virtually every significant category.
Then Jay Cutler. Up until this season, it looked like Cutler was well on his way to being a star. Well…
And it’s not necessary to even bring up the wonder Shanahan could do with a running game.
Where it gets conflicted is that, 1) Shanahan was responsible for having such terrible QBs to work with after Elway, and 2) Shanahan was responsible for having such a terrible defense for so long.
But every now and then I look at what he could turn a total piece of crap offensive player into with less than a year’s worth of work and I go, “wow.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 22, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
No disagreement
I just don’t understand fans who treat Shanahan as a savior. Putting aside, for a moment, that retread SB winning coaches do not win SBs in their new locations, Shanahan is a great offensive mind whose record this decade would have most Niners fans calling for his head if he had a similar run here (and more so if his name was not Shanahan).
As for the running game, I though Alex Gibbs was credited mostly for that? The Falcons became the #1 running team in the league when he joined the Atlanta staff.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I voted yes.
It wasn’t even close to being his fault they lost this week. All on the players execution!
Jury Still Out
I think he still has a lot to prove as a game coach..He does well with the players, but his game coaching at this point, leaves a lot to be desired..The halftime adjustments are still very much a work in progress..His clock management is iffy to say the least..I am just not sure yet, whether he has the smarts to be a head coach..He is a great motivator, but that is not enough..
Two questions
Wouldn’t you say that they are actually quite good at halftime adjustments, based on hoe they’ve faired in most 2nd halves this season?
For clarification, what part of clock management do you not like? I ask only because I think the Niners do fine with clock management with one glaring exception: Raye getting in plays quick enough to Smith.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Question for the undereducated
I’d really love to listen in on this given the opportunity, but when Raye is making the play call, how much approval and/or veto power does Sing have? Or in this case, does he even have time to do that?
From what I know
The HC always has veto power. However, a HC rarely uses that veto power because he doesn’t have the time in between plays and he has gone over the game plan and strategy with his OC throughout the week and the night before the game. He may tell his OC at the start of a drive “let’s just get to the half” or “run the ball here” or “let’s try and get up the field” or to call plays for certain players. What plays are called to match those wishes are still more about the OC. I also imagine that during a timeout before a big 3rd or 4th down play or 2 point conversion, the HC may chip in with the play he wants. Ultimately though you have to trust your OC and his ability to call plays and set up others, especially since you’ve already gone over this during the week.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Still excited about the future
I think at the beginning of the season I was stating that we were an 8-8 team at best. However, I, like everyone else, thought we were playoff bound after the 3-1 start (including win over cardinals). Who nows, Greg Lewis drops his toes down a half second later and we are propeled to a 10-6 record. Hence, I think Singletary accomplished what he could with this bunch and should have a solid approval rating.
Now, I hope Singletary recognizes the hard truth that the Niners are missing the pieces of a playoff caliber squad and are ready to make personnel changes. a) Please stop signing mediocre players to long term deals after a couple of good games (a la Parys Haralson). That means lets not sign Ahmad Brooks to 7 year deal because he had 3 sacks a couple of weeks ago. b) Legitimize our pass rush and stop letting Manusky tell you he can get it done with a bunch of unsigned free agents. Would trade both of our first round picks to get Ndamakong Suh but even taking one of those hybrids this year would be fine c) Getting mean and ugly on the o-line is a requirement for the type of football I think we should play. Meaning 1 of our 2 first round picks had better be a new tackle or we pick up a franchise OT in free agency. d) Other comments… Stay with Alex and develop Nate Davis, Invest in better Strong safety play/move Clements to free, hire another asst head coach for add’l eyes on the field, etc.
… Just a couple of comments from another armchair OB.
Please stop signing mediocre players to long term deals after a couple of good games
Wait, are we discussing the Niners or the Giants? HA! Yeah, that’s comedy gold right there…
The only other thing i wanted to mention is that we’re tied for 8th in the NFL in sacks (34), tied for 12th in interceptions (15), and tied for 2nd in FF (20). We’re fifth in the NFC in takeaways. I don’t know how we rank in terms of pressure on the QB, but I suspect we’re doing okay in terms of getting to the QB. Far better than we did with Nolan helping out with the defense. The Niners might not have an elite defense, but I’ve got ot think they’re much better now, at least.
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They are better
They had one week without a sack after three consecutive weeks with at least four sacks. Three good, one bad. That’s still reasonably consistent in my book. No need to make a huge case to get another pass rusher. Ndamakong Suh would be welcomed with open arms, but not having himcertainly won’t doom anything.
And the Philly O-line must be good
A passing team with four holding calls all season. Amazingly good or damn lucky. Perhaps some of both, either way they were a challenge and showed that the Niners rush can take advantage of mediocre lines and good lines in SF, but on the road against top lines, not yet. Especially when trailing all game, the opponent is not predictable in play calling.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I missed the game, due to the TV and DVR being disconnected at that time. So I can’t really base my Yes vote on the Philly game. But what I can say is I like the accountability he still has, I like how he’s handled the players… My biggest concern, and you all might be able to help out with this, is I don’t know that he’s very good at game planning. On the one hand, Peyton Manning got shut down, even though we lost to the Colts. On the other hand, we still lost, and other teams have gone wild against the 49ers. I don’t see him as much of a strategist, which I believe is a big part of modern football.
I still approve, and I expect the 49ers to be a winning football team in 2010. But I don’t feel confident that he can outcoach another team. Any thoughts from the rational, more objective fans?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
For this point in his HC career
He’s doing a pretty good job. I can count on two, maybe three fingers how many former Niner coaches can say they had an equal or better W-L record after 1 1/2 seasons.
The answer to all the concerns we’ve been having this year is simply this: Everything will be answered around this time next year. Reason being, barring unforeseen circumstances, the core of his coaching staff would be in place for more than one season. His QB (barring injury) will once and for all prove that he can develop sufficiently if given more than one year with one OC.
Will prove?
I should have said, HOPEFULLY will prove once and for all. Didn’t mean to sound so adamant about it. :)
If based on one game
My questions would be, would a different HC have won this game? I say no. Clearly, Philly is better in every department except LB, RB and ST coverage. In their stadium they should win. I’m more happy that, while committing four turnvoers and a ton of costly penalties, the Niners were in the game on the road. Clean up the self-inflicted mistakes and it’s a toe-to-toe game that can go either way in the 4th quarter. Philly may still not have won but the Niners cost themselves the opportunity, which as a common theme on the road against top teams, means they’re missing a handful of players. That’s not on the coaches.
Though this loss eliminated them from the playoffs, this game is not the reason they won’t make the playoffs. Give aways in MInnesota and Seattle, plus losing to Houston, are. Turn two of those three around and even coming off this loss, SF would be in the WC hunt and one back in the division. Ultimately you can not give away games when there are only 16.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Major Irony
I think if the Niners had eliminated just one of those turnovers, we’d still be talking about playoff possibilities. I heard Rod Brooks on KNBR talking to either Matt Maiocco or Kevin Lynch, it was probably the former, and they agreed that the D-Walker fumble was a killer. It’s just one factor in the big picture, but I agree that it was one of the biggest.
At this point?
I voted no. This week, I am not happy with the job he’s doing. Last week I was. Even if I disapprove of the man for the next two weeks I still think he has done well enough and shown enough things in his first year to deserve a second.
You can never resist the game... nor could I... we're the same, so don't even try.
Voted Yes
All we need is an off season to get things sorted out. I wasn’t expecting much this year anyways, the close games were a bit of a surprise for me. I like how he argues with the refs a lot, it shows that he is fighting and his heart is into it. yet, I hope it doesn’t develop into an excuse for the players to be under performing.
The Refs
I kinda laughed at something he said to Paulie Mac this morning on KNBR. He said something to the effect of, “I don’t want to get into the refs not hearing me call for a timeout, but I think I’ll just tie a rock to the red flag from now on to get their attention.” There’s eight of them for crying out loud, do they really want us to believe that they’re that oblivious to someone yelling “TIME OUT!!”
Amazing...Does Sing even have to win to get support?
Given that people on this blog are glorifying Sing’s outside chance to get this team to 8-8, it seems that he can continue to lose games without repercussion.
Reality is that this team is WORSE than the Niners were ending last year.
So, the 49ers are regressing under Mike Singletary’s leadership.
How can anyone say he is doing a great job? Because he was a linebacker with the Bears in the 80’s?
worse?
Can you provide some details as to why you think the team is worse now than they were at the end of last year? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but are you basing your opinion on the fact that they finished the season 4-1, or on something beyond that?
by David Fucillo on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Overall regresssion should not be based on
what happened during a portion of a season. If it did, the NFL should award a championship for the 1st half of the season, 2nd half , 1st quarter or whenever. If the Niners end up 8-8 this year, it means two things. They end up with a better record than last year and they end the year 3-2, whichstill is more wins than losses. Where’s the regression??
Given that people on this blog are glorifying Sing’s outside chance to get this team to 8-8
Our last two games are against the Lions and the Rams, two of the absolute worst franchises in the NFL. I’ve got to think there’s a better than good chance the Niners finish the year 8-8.
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Every Dog has his day though...
Too bad those pesky Ram fans who used to troll an old 49er board I posted on ain’t around anymore.
Well, we're waiting....
Any given Sunday, right? But I’ve got to think the odds are in favor of the Niners.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
It's still a division game..
I think the Rams are horrid, but I wouldn’t put that as an auto win yet. DET isn’t one either.
Well, we're waiting....
I voted yes
The team completely took themselves out of this game. After a terrific outing against the Cardinals they decided to get sloppy again.
I can’t point to any coaching issues that cost us this game—just players screwing up.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
The only way I can vote on this..
Is the press conferences after the game. I hate Sing’s pressers. So I can’t vote due to that bias.
Well, we're waiting....
I went Yes
It’s Christmas.
"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...
Get off Sing's back
I’ve read all these approval ratings and gripes. Does anyone realize that Mike was dealt this hand. The GM should be the one on the hot seat not Mike. He has done a Great job with the limited talent he has to work with. If anyone needs to go it is Scott McCloughan. Get a GM that can bring in talent on the O line and the secondary. Not sign guys that are on there last leg! We need to be able to protest our QB and shut down the pass on a more consistant basis
by treeman on Dec 22, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Advice to McCloughan
Next time you have any notion to draft a spread QB, go to Jed York and tell him you’re firing yourself.
Here's two examples. . .
I’m a University of Hawaii fan (don’t ask) so I have a good idea on how successful spread QB’s are in the NFL. Colt Brennan, a Heisman candidate, was spectacular at UH. Broke many a record. Was drafted in the 6th round by Washington. But he’s on IR right now. It’s more like a nice way to tell him he’s not going to be an NFL QB. Timmy Chang, who also put up some great numbers at Hawaii, was never drafted. He played in the World League for like a year, but we know what happened there. Wasn’t really his fault, but I don’t know if he was seen on any training camp rosters in the last few years.
Spread QB’s as a rule don’t appear to be trained to have the same attributes as typical (predominantly pro set) QB’s. They don’t look off receivers, pump fake or do anything to deceive defenders. Their job is to take a snap and throw the ball almost instantaneously. If McCloughan wanted a project, that’s what he got. But apparently there has to be a way to truly justify why he was picked 1st in 2005. Ironically, I don’t necessarily disagree with that. However, next year is the ultimate make or break year for Alex. Something has to happen next year, or I hate to say it, but this team will be in for several more bad seasons.
Considering his approval rating is at 81% in this poll, I’d say yes… People do recognize something there.
At the same time, this team has some good talent, and some of it has been realized since Sing took over (I’m looking at you, VD and Shawntae). Now we’re looking at some dang good players on this team, like Crabtree, VD, Staley, Gore, Heitmann, Justin Smith, Willis, Spencer… Some guys are showing good improvement, like Alex Smith, Lawson, Goldson(?), Morgan…
It’s not like this is a suck team, and McCloughan has wiffed on almost every player he’s drafted or signed. I suspect a good bit of it has been bad fits with the schemes, or bad coaching (Nolan).
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Ok, Scott gets a little bit of slack
I think the schemes and bad coaching definitely have something to do with McCloughan’s whiffs. But again, that’s why next year is going to be so critical. The combination of the coaching staff still being around and Alex’s maturity hopefully will be sufficiently “gelled” by next year, but if not, the jury is out!
I agree with you there. I think this is the offseason where we’ll really see if McCloughan is worth keeping around or not. If the team improves, and the players who are signed and re-signed are solid contributors, and we get some useful rookies out of this draft, I think we’ll have a pretty good indicator as to how good McCloughan is.
Also worth keeping in mind is McCloughan wasn’t the GM until last year. Prior to that, he reported to Nolan. And didn’t Nolan have the final say in the drafts and such?
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Yeah I think so
Ok so even more slack. I think we as fans need some gut checks from time to time!
But yeah, come to think of it, Nolan did have at least one of the last yea or nays in the draft. All the better reason that he’s not here anymore.
My point about regression
Is based on the fact that they closed out the last 6 games of last year playing better football than they are playing this year.
Subjective? Yeah. But they are pretty bad. Worse on special teams, maybe a bit better on defense, WAY worse on offense.
Shaun Hill is a better quarterback than Alex Smith (Hill has a winning record as a 49ers QB).
Every major decision Sing makes is wrong: Fire Martz, Hire Raye, Promote Alex.
He will never be better than an 8-8 coach
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by David Fucillo on Dec 22, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree
Firing Martz was the right call. Raye is absolutely an iffy hire at best. The offense under Hill couldn’t convert 3rd downs, and I do believe the offense never scored more than two TDs in a game under Hill.
Not that Smith is the next Drew Brees, but he’s done a far better job running the offense than Hill did.
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Firing Martz is ONLY A GOOD CALL
If you hire an upgrade.
Hiring a downgrade is the definition of a BAD CALL.
Singletary did a GOOD job reigning Martz in. But Martz has crazy talent as an OC.
Raye has no talent. Nothing to reign in.
This is why Head Coaches get canned…
Ahmad Brooks, Patrick Willis,
Vernon Davis, Alex Smith, McDonald, Crabtree, Rachal, Lawson, Haralson, Goldson, Spencer …
Player development.
It is the most important aspect of a 1st or 2nd year coach’s job.
Singletary is great at it.
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