Bowl Games Gameday Thread: December 23rd, 2009
Last nights contest between BYU and Oregon State was pretty one-sided... let's hope to see a more balanced contest tonight. On that note, this evenings game will feature another Pac-10 team versus another MWC team. The Utah Utes finished 3rd in the Mountain West Conference (6-2) but had an overall record of (9-3) and are ranked # 23 in the Nation, while the California Golden Bears finished 6th in the Pac-10 (5-4) with an overall record of (8-4) and are unranked but were at one point in the year ranked # 6 in the Nation. Utah has been to eight straight Bowl Games and this will mark California's 6th straight appearance to a bowl game. Being that alot of folks on NinersNation are Cal fans, I am sure that there will be a bunch of folks watching tonight so we hope to have more participation. Below the jump, we will take a look in to some of the key players, prospects, stats, and other information regarding the game...

# 23 UTAH UTES VS. CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS
SAN DIEGO COUNTY CREDIT UNION POINSETTIA BOWL PREVIEW
UTES:
Key players to watch for the Utes:
[# 36] Eddie Wide RB 5'10" 195 (Junior):
Wide broke the 1000 yard mark for the first time in his collegiate career. There will need to be plenty of balance between run and pass for the Utes to come out of this game with the W. Look for Wide to get a Wide variety of touches tonight. His 2009 stats are: 182 Carries, 1032 yards, 5.7 yds/att, 12 TD's, and 1 TD receiving.
[# 68] Zane Beadles G 6'4" 305 (Senior):
Very versatile offensive lineman. Beadles knows how to play just about every position on the line. He has played both Tackle and Guard and has played them both very well. Being that the Niners may need a Guard in the upcoming draft, we all should be watching how well he plays against the Bears defensive line this eve before Christmas Eve.
[# 16] David Reed WR 6'0" 190 (Senior):
Reed is probably the most valuable player on this team. I suspect that true freshman QB Jordan Wynn will be zeroing in on Reed a bunch tonight. Reed will most likely be matched up against one of the top rated CB's in the nation tonight in Syd'Quan Thompson. This will be the most intriguing matchup of the evening. Reed's 2009 stats are: 75 receptions, 1085 yards, 14.5 a rec, 5 TD's.
[# 85] Jereme Brooks WR 5'7" 170 (Junior):
Brooks gives Wynn a great second read option. Brooks is a small, shifty, hard to cover small guy. If the Bears aren't careful, they will get burnt by Brooks. His 2009 stats are: 49 rec, 620 yards, 12.7 a rec, 6 TD's.
Led by Coach Kyle Whittingham (5th year, 46-17)
GOLDEN BEARS:
Key players to watch for the Bears:
[# 13] Kevin Riley QB 6'2" 221 (Junior):
I believe that Riley will have to be a factor in this game to give Cal any hopes of walking away from this bowl game with a win. I think he will more than likely return for his senior year to try and make a name for himself in the 2011 Draft. His 2009 stats are: 54.6% comp rate, 2636 yards, 7.6 per pass completed, 17 TD's, 6 INT's.
[# 34] Shane Vereen RB 5'10" 198 (Sophomore):
Vereen will be one to watch for the future. The Golden Bears have produced some pretty decent running backs within the last few years. With Jahvid Best still out in the this one with the severe concussion and back injury, Vereen will be the feature back. He actually will have finished the season with just 30 yards less than Best, although Best has played in 3 less games due to injury. Here are Vereen's 2009 stats: 163 attempts, 830 yards, 5.1 an attempt, 10 TD's.
[# 1] Marvin Jones WR 6'2" 190 (Sophomore):
Another guy that won't be coming out this year but has the potential to be a draft pick in 2011 or 2012 should he stay his Senior season. Jones has been the number one target as far as receivers are concerned this year; things should stay the same for this game as well. Here are his 2009 stats: 38 receptions, 607 yards, 16.0 a reception, 6 TD's.
Syd'Quan Thompson CB 5'9" 187 (Senior):
Thompson will probably be a 2nd round to 3rd round pick in the 2010 NFL Draft this year. He more than likely will shadow WR David Reed this evening. Thompson will need to be very effective against both the pass and run tonight. He has a very good opportunity to shine tonight and make himself a solid 2nd round pick candidate. Thompson will also be doing some returns tonight too...he is very exciting and electric when he has the ball. He has 250 career tackles which is a lot, 1 fumble forced, and 7 INT's (the majority of those coming in 2008).
Led by Coach Jeff Tedford (8th year, 67-34)
WHEN: 8:00 PM ET, 5:00 PST
WHERE: QUALCOMM STADIUM, SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA
TV: ESPN & ESPN-HD, ESPN 360
SATELLITE: SIRIUS, XM
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go bears!
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Alex Smith? haha
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
WHOA!
georgio kicked it past the 30!
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions
I bet it will go to Vereen first play
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
and the 2nd
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
running
Yea, Vereen should see a lot of work tonight. I like Cal, but as a Mountain West guy, I’m kinda hoping they improve to 3-0 in bowl season.
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Dec 23, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
I am torn also
I picked Utah in my Bowl Mania for ESPN but I like the underdog and liek Cal.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I still think top to bottom Pac-10 is the deepest (Cal was the #6 Pac-10 team)
But the MWC top 3 could go down and play with the SEC big 3 any day.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 23, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
depth
Yea, Mountain West definitely lacks any semblance of depth after TCU, Utah and BYU. If they could add Boise State and hang on to BYU that would be a big help to their depth.
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Dec 23, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Best
So Jahvid Best requested an evaluation by the NFL Draft Advisory Committee in order to decide if he should turn pro. He missed the last four games of the season (including tonight), so it’s not like he’d be going pro after a lost season. Since he’ll be recovered completely from the concussion by the combine and able to show off his speed, any chance he doesn’t go pro?
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Dec 23, 2009 5:19 PM PST reply actions
The consensus has been that he is entering the draft. Not sure if you were able to catch any of the pregame analysis but they all agreed that he would enter the 2010 draft
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
i wonder if we can get best at a better value
than if we were to draft CJ spiller
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I am not sure how much value there is with a guy who has suffered 3 concussions (1 severe) in his college career
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
yeah lets get him in the 7th round!
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
He will not last that long cause teams need backs more than we do
but we cannot risk a pick on him. If he slides to our 3rd rounder we take him or if we trade down and get a 2b he could be worth it.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 23, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think
he would even be worth a 5th.. I bet he is out within 2-3 years in the NFL
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
If Vereen keeps running like that
then there is no way Best comes back. He would get less carries and risk injury again. He would be very unwise to not take the money…especially because his injuries have been concussions (something that tends to be a reoccuring problem throughout a football career).
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Concussions are kinda like heart attacks...
Once you have one, you are more predisposed to suffer another just because some of the previous damage is unrepairable.
Especially one that leaves you stiff and unconscious like that
That is the type of knockout that ends fighters careers. Jermain Taylor got left stiff like that by Arthur Abraham and his management team has left him because they feel they cannot in good conscience continue to manage him while he fights and have urged him to retire. That was Taylors 3rd KO loss and 1st really bad one. 1 to Kelly Pavlik, Carl Froch got a stoppage and Abraham. None of those guy are light hitters, his brain is not so far gone that he cannot still take a normal punch… BUT, while Taylor is still competing on a world class level after the Abraham KO there were rumors of bad post concussive problems plaguing him. Taylor is still in the Super 6 tournament and may just be collecting his last paychecks but his management has universally urged him to retire as he has made his money suggesting there are big lingering issues from this last (and most major KO).
To be honest Best’s KO was much MUCH uglier than Taylor’s last one. Boxing is only now taking KO’s and concussions seriously. Taylor still has fights against non power-punchers in Ward and Dirrell and may collect those checks and ride off into the sunset but for him… It appears his 3 concussions, 1 I would categorize as relatively minor by boxing standards, 1 medium (the KO to Pavlik) and the last major, are the magic number for him. Best has at least 3 also. 2 Likely on the same level as the minor Taylor injury and the last most surely more major than the worst of Taylor’s career.
Best is 1 or 2 bad hits from the end of his career
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 23, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
I was at the game he got KO'd at
it was effing scary. I’ve literally never been in a packed stadium that was absolutely, eerily dead ass silent like that before.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I don't see how coming back will help him
it’ll just be another year of wear and tear on a body that already has people worried.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Nice run by Vereen
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
VEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 5:23 PM PST reply actions
>my face when Utah thought they could win this game
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 5:28 PM PST reply actions
cal's D
they’ve been good this year, not great. i wonder how many except for thompson will enter the draft?Some of the hardest hits i’ve seen all year were when they played minnesota.
Not bad for a freshman
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
nice touch. alex did u see that. touch?
by srill waiting on Dec 23, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
He's got all day to throw...
Lesson of this game so far. When the O-Line can dominatith the game, the QB can throwith the ball.
They never had any
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Adrenaline
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Yet it's still a good game
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Watching Wynn play QB...
Is like reliving an Alex Smith at Utah highlight reel. That Urban Meyer spread is something else.
I thought the same thing
Their style as QB’s is actually very similar also. GET ALEX SOME PROTECTION NINERS!!! You’ve had 5 years to do it and put 1 prospect on the line in that time (and Chilo)
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 23, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
This play-by-play guy is horrible
Calls the Utah defense the Cal defense. Says that a first down catch was only a 2 yard catch and then just says that sack was because the guy came through unblocked when the replay shows that he was blocked (just not very well).
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
patrick is bad. another mnf guy i couldn't stand
by srill waiting on Dec 23, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I've always liked Mike Patrick
maybe just because he seems to have so much enthusiasm – the opposite of Joe Buck
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
I like this QB that Utah has
but he has a really weird throwing style. Looks like he’s lobbing a baseball and other times it’s like he’s throwing a shotput.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
that was some Arnaz Battle style punt catching there wasn't it?
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
It would have one hopped its way in to the endzone
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
TD could put this one in the bag
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Uh-oh
Cal looking to make this a game again
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Nice Vereen!
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
haha cal just go to division II
its where you belong
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 8:04 PM PST reply actions
STANFORD!
And this automatic bid nonsense from the BCS needs to win. Because if wins against Washington State can qualify you for a Bowl then there’s just something grossly wrong with that system. There needs to be a strength of schedule consideration in the BCS bidding process.
Stanford over Oregon?
I’m not a fan of either team, but I’d argue Oregon played a better schedule. Yea they lost to Stanford, but again you’re considering the entire body of work.
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Dec 23, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
I was being a smart-ass Stanford fan...
It’s instinctive to celebrate every time the Bears lose. The message was more aimed at trying to find a way to get teams like Utah and BYU into the BCS system… Not talk about how Stanford was jibbed by Oregon.
gotcha
I’m a Mountain West fan (big UNLV fan) so yea, getting Utah and BYU into the mix would be nice. The Big Ten is talking about expanding with a Big 12 team, with BYU potentially replacing that Big 12 team and then Boise State moving into the MWC. Still early, but adding Boise is a huge addition for BCS purposes. The MWC is in their assessment period as a potential conference addition to the BCS and they would be able to count Boise’s BCS appearance this year in their numbers.
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Dec 23, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
no i have a better idea
lets take the 2 best teams from lower-level conferences and put them against each other in a BCS bowl so we cant see their real skill!
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
If Stanford brings their A game they can play with any team in the country
Thing is they only did that a few times. The game they played against SC was an example of a scary Stanford team though.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 23, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
I hate that too
Personally I think the BCS needs to die a painful death and be replaced with a real playoff system.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Cal's so over hyped
Wasn’t Cal suppose to be a top 5 team at the beginning of the year? The Utes are good though. All these good non-BCS teams get no respect. Who would rather watch TCU play Florida rather than Boise St?
—
DISCLAIMER: I realize my favorite team(PSU) is overrated but it’s obviously because the media likes to take shots at the Big-Ten when they get ‘upset’.
cal fan here
we’re not necessarily over-hyped… its just that every year we are expected to do well. we start off winning the first 3 or 4 games, then lose like 4 of the next 6 games, then win the rest, then play in a bowl against a (usually) worse team and win. then we get ranked high to start the season
and the cycle begins again
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Best OT available (Bulaga/Davis/Campbell)
1b. CJ Spiller or trade down to ~20 and get an extra 2nd rounder
2. Whoever our FO likes as best CB available. Maybe Donovan Warren/Trevor Lindley.
3. BPA
4. Jordan Shipley. Maybe even 3rd round.
5-7. BPA
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 23, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather watch TCU play Alabama
Since Texas LOST and I have never, despite the rule being written that they stop the clock when the ball goes out of bounds, seen that enforced in that manner. There was about 1 second when the ball crossed the plane of the out of bounds line, there was less then 1 when it touched the ground. The game was over. The clock doesn’t stop when the ball goes out of bounds in the air. Hell, normally they run at least a second off the clock even after its supposed to stop. (Washington State vs Michigan spike with 2 seconds left and they ran 2 seconds off in the national title game)
TCU got robbed
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 24, 2009 1:20 AM PST up reply actions
Cal
Needs to have Jeff Tedford calling the offensive plays again.
Sound familiar?
I think next year will be a proving ground for Cal. Kevin Riley will likely be back for Sr year, Vereen is still young so he’s definitely back, & Jahvid Best if he’s smart enough to make the right decision will also be back. If a player goes into the draft following a serious injury (concussions were a big story this year in the NFL) his stock will likely drop greatly. And although he was on the list of Heisman hopefuls at the beginning of the year, his team’s overall success and the injury ended that. He needs to come back and have what I think could be a spectacular Sr year, try to get his team in position to contend for the Rose Bowl (they’ve never been under Tedford) and get himself drafted high so he can guarantee himself a good contract.
Defensively they appear to have a LOT of returnees, although two of their impact players (Alualu and Thompson) are Sr’s.

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