Panthers Watch 2009 Week 13 Game Thread
If you were planning on being productive today, this might not be the best Sunday for it. I've got finals starting soon (although I only have two), but I don't expect to be too productive today. Not only do we have a variety of important games, but the games are spread all day long and into the night. Given the spread of games we'll have three separate game threads for you. We'll start with this morning's Panther Watch thread, move into the 49ers game thread (going up at noon), and wrap up with the Sunday Night Football thread. I decided that to avoid any sort of jinx, I'm waiting to create the SNF thread until we have an idea of what's happening with the 49ers. A 49ers win make SNF huge, while a 49ers loss definitely takes a lot of the air out of it.
For now though, we've got some rather big morning games to keep an eye on. If you missed it, Josh Branco had a comprehensive preview of all of today's action. Accordingly, I'll just be putting out some quick thoughts.
Buccaneers @ Panthers: This game is of course the inspiration for this thread. As always, the 49ers hold Carolina's 2010 first round pick so every Panthers loss is a gain for the 49ers. The Bucs have lost a variety of heart breakers this season, but maybe they can pull out a big road upset.
Eagles @ Falcons: The 49ers best chance at making the playoffs is by winning the NFC West. However, the wildcard does still remain a possibility. Given that the 49ers still have a game remaining against Philly, I'm thinking we want the Eagles to win this one. Atlanta would drop into a tie with the 49ers. Since Atlanta holds the tiebreaker, we need them to continue their free fall. And it might as well happen in a game without Matt Ryan or Michael Turner.
Titans @ Colts: The resurgent Titans get their biggest test to date as they head into Indy. In our weekly prediction contest I actually picked Indy to win fairly easily. I don't see Tennessee continuing this surge the entire rest of the season, so why not get slapped around a bit buy the always potent Colts?
Patriots @ Dolphins: The Dolphins always give New England trouble, and with the Fins hanging onto the wildcard bubble, they're definitely in must-win territory. This is a tough game to call, especially coming off the whupping in New Orleans.
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According to my Panther friend
If they DO lose this game it’s pretty well assured that Foxy (John Fox) will be fired at end of season. The one thing that is of interest in my mind to “us 9ers” is that his staff will be possibly/probably booted too. That might mean that we could get the then former OL coach. I think a large amount of us agree that the problems on the O Line are at least as due to the OL Coach as the line itself.
With that said, Go Niners and sorry John Fox though I like you as a coach, I’m as always this season rooting for you to lose.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Dec 6, 2009 9:33 AM PST reply actions
I hear lots of rumors about Cowher going to Carolina
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
that's why I think Fox is gone regardless
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I think you're right
the Bucs are that bad and I think that Matt Moore will not affect them too adversely. That doesn’t mean that a part of me, being a 9ers fan, will hope that things are different.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Dec 6, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
I heard Williams wasn't playing
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Thanks RLott
I forgot about that. That doesn’t bode well for them because the concept was that without DelINT they would be relying heavily on the run game.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Dec 6, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
big day of football
man this could lead up to some serious MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL next week!
today is gonna be a good sign to see if we can make the post season….i mean along with the cards failing tonight woot
Garrard came out firing
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Indy up 7 early
Site decorum my predictions
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Running the ball down TB's throat......early
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I need to add a fantasy QB
Alex Smith or Vince Young and please consider the schedules left, any thoughts?
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Fantasy
Smith next 3 weeks: vs. Arizona, @ Philly, vs. Detroit
VY: vs. St. Louis, vs. Miami, vs. San Diego
You got a chance for the playoffs? Week 15 is championship week and 49ers get Detroit. I have Peyton Manning in a league where I’m on the wildcard bubble. I grabbed Alex Smith just in case.
VY gets you rushing points, I think Smith has more upside in the passing game.
by David Fucillo on Dec 6, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
My playoffs are week 14, 15, and 16
The Eagles game scares the heck out of me. I have Warner and Ryan on that team
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Warner
I’d imagine Warner will be back for that game, although it’s obviously TBD.
by David Fucillo on Dec 6, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Young has the Rams in week 14
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I saw an article in The Arizona Republic this morning about Warner
and how his family and his wife are giving him a bunch of grief about playing again. Was interesting. I suspect he will be back but he said he was suffering from blurry vision. That can’t be good for the Cards.
The Warner thing is up in the air and I suspect if he gets hit hard in the head one more time, that it would be it for him.
We met in a past life and you were wrong then too
I think the Panthers win every time we have this thread
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not always
We had this for MNF against the Cowboys and Carolina lost that one early in the season.
by David Fucillo on Dec 6, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Tampa and another FG
Geez
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upset????
i know it’s early but…. dare i say redskins upset n.o.???? they sure are playing tougher early
Panthers chances of winning increased...
as soon as Delhomme sat on the bench lol
This hopefully ends up correct
Teams in the Panthers division have gotten better The Saints improveed their defense, the Falcons improved their offense and the Buccs still stink. However the Panthers plays one of the best divisions in football in the AFC East. I’m hoping they stink of course but resignig Delhomme after his showing in the playoffs, and Peppers not leaving any room for veteran FA pickups I think the Panthers will slide to around 5 wins, yes 5 wins swept by the AFC East and the Saints and Falcons. The Bucs still have a good run defense so the Panthers will stink it up this year!
aka Optimist Prime 09………..9ers (site decorum)
by rlott#42 on Jul 17, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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yeah Chicago
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Tampa Bay sucks the big one
Int ball back to carolina with a 7 pt lead, and they are driving. Moore is 100%
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Grosslolman?
Does that work? Schaub is out
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Watching Washinton beating NO
We need another Davis – the Skins TE #86. WHAT A BEAST! Imagine him with our Davis and Walker!!
Can't rely on Oakland getting a win..........ever
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Looks like we have another competitor for draft position.
Schaub didn’t look good coming off the field. The replacement? Rex Grossman. Oh and Slaton is out too.
Gimme 1 round!
I gotta go deep Rex
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Rex just fumbled
At least Moats is a solid backup
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Schaub is coming back like WIllis Reed
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If anybody wants a functioning stream to the game
without requiring download of P2P software
I can post one but since its questionable to site rules I’ll wait for somebody to at least want it before posting it
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
HAHAH
Schaub to Brown… 14 points to me
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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
You know...
why can’t the Niners have the luck to play the Texans without Schaub or Slaton?
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 6, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Or Owen Daniels
That was like my whole fantasy team. I was scoring close to 200 points a game in the ESPN league with those 3 guys on my team. I’ve gone to crap since Daniels went out. Now my team is DONE
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
I like watching perfect punts
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well you get to see it a lot
with andy lee
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 6, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Chris Johnson had to open his big mouth
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it must suck to be an oakland sports fan
the a’s suck the raiders suck and the warriors suck
It was worse
When the A’s would have the best fall of any team in baseball and inevitably choke in the 1st round of the playoffs. I mean you can rack up 20 straight wins… and you lose in the first round? All you could do is hang your head
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Um...
Pretty much every year they had the big 3… How old are you? This wasn’t that long ago.
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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2006
in 00, 01, 02, and 03 they lost in the first round each time. It was in 01 they won 20 straight games.
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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I even forgot
We even won a series against the Twins in 2006
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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Panther Interception
Have we heard of this before?
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I hope Fisher has his Manning jersey on under his clothes for a half time boost
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Just when you think the Saints are out, Brees passes for 6
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Another TB FG or TO
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Oh Wait they missed the damn thing
WTF
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That was a really nice drive the 'Skins put together
Beautiful play-action pass for the TD
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Thats why I think
They beat the Cowgirls at home in the next to last game of the season. That or they get absolutely obliterated.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
typical skins. guess they don't want zorn around afterall
by srill waiting on Dec 6, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn't matter
They’re at 3rd and 15 now. Tried to do a screen but Bush got knocked down and they had an ineligible man downfield.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Unfreakinbelievable
3rd and 26, pressure, intercepted, fumbled and the Saints run it in for a TD
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Those are the lucky plays....
that have kept the Niners from having a winning record and the division lead, they never seem to get those
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 6, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
yeah 3 in a row
hits dudes back on a punt, get a pic back, get a bad call in their favor
And they are the away team lol
Obviously, he did.
Replay shows that he was reading the INT-return coverage and saw the opening for Meachem when he threw that ball.
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
Its still tied
Yet it feels like the Redskins just lost the lead or something after the ref’s upheld that play.
Gerrard and MJD both slipped in the end zone
I can see Berman saying WHOOOOOPPP already
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Tim Donaughy on 60 minutes tonight
Telling us what we already knew. The NBA is rigged to make the league as much money as possible
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and still doesn't make half as much as MLB or the NFL
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
mjd
my fantasy back this week 9 rushes for 20 yds. ugh
I am so glad we didn't spend all that money on Cassel
Any chance the Chiefs draft a QB.
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None.
Cassel hasn’t been great, but he’s not the reason that the Chiefs are so awful. That KC team is terrible from top to bottom.
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
They need an OL and DL and DB's
at least they got Pioli…………I don’t know Haley doesn’t like Cassell he didn’t want him, that’s Pioli’s guy, enter Charlie Weis??
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Steelers are having a superbowl hangover
Somebody needs to tell Ben you got 100 mil, get a win…………LOL
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Cutloler
gettin’ her done, oh wait it’s the Rams
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Tampa is done put a fork in them
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that was a very Jimmy Raye-esque playcall.
“we just failed horribly at running a 3rd and 1…let’s call a running play on 4th and inches where we pull as many linemen into the hole as possible! That’ll sure open up a running lane!”
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
That was the old Jimmy Raye
the new one calls a 30 yard strike on 4th and 1
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Chris Redmen just threw an INT for a TD....
again, why couldn’t the niners play the falcons without matt ryan and michael turner lol
Jason Campbell is looking really good today
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Redskins score another TD
Saints definitely play down to the level of the opposing team
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
It is kind of sad....
I mean the Saints destroy the Pats, and now are losing to a horrible team that beat the Rams by 2 and lost to the Lions
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 6, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
A horrible team
Missing almost all its starters lol
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
How about the Raiders keeping with the Steelers?
by sanfranfanmdk on Dec 6, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't surprise me
Pittsburgh has been off this year and the Raiders have the pieces to have a good team—they just can’t put it together consistently
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Did we need Giants or Cowboys to win?
Both of them and Eagles have somehwat difficult schedule remaining where none of the teams could end up with 10 wins. Meaning if we lose one of the remaining games (against Arizona), but beat Philly, we still have a wildcard chance with 9-7 record. This way we win tiebreaker against Philly, and hopefully some other type of tiebreaker against Dallas with 9-7 record, and Giants probably 8-8 at best.
Just an alternative if we lose to AZ, not PHI, rather than the other way around.
Plus would need for Falcons to keep falling and ok for Packers to get the other wildcard.
I guess based on what I said we need Giants to win
Looks like Eagles over Falcons so thats how that game is going to end…
Got back up...
But next series you can tell its still bugging him
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
best game
skins /saints is by far the best game so far. skins are playing out of their minds.
WHO DEY???
Texans game is good too
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
The play by play guy on this game is nauseatingly bad though
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Oakland still up on on Pitt...
And Vick 2 TD’s now! Vick to the Browns so he can play in the Dogpound!
Gimme 1 round!
dammit
I hate the Raiders… but i’d be happy for them to end with a better record than Carolina
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
AND
I despise the Steelers too
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Oakland scores again.
Gradkowski should make the Pro Bowl
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
No good
Looked like interference on the D but no dice
Texans need a 3 and out and a TD. Kubiak will screw this up somehow.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
Can’t stop them from running
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
I never thought I'd say this...
Lets go RAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEERRRRRRRRSSS
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 6, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Game Thread
The game thread opened up already so feel free to move all discussion over there when you get a chance.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/12/6/1187444/san-francisco-49ers-vs-seattle

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