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2010 49ers Cap Outlook


First off let me introduce myself, Im AB83Rules, or Jason, which ever is fine, but i do the cap work for NinerCapHell.com, and Ive been asked to do some cap posts here, so here it is, the 49ers 2010 cap outlook.

 

San Francisco 49ers: 2010 Salary Cap Sheet:
Player: 2010: Base: Bonus: Signed Thru:
22 CB/PR Nate Clements $8,166,666 $6,000,000 $2,166,666 2013
21 RB Frank Gore $6,933,000 $2,850,000 $4,083,000 2011/2010
94 DE Justin Smith $5,958,333 $2,625,000 $3,333,333 2013
11 QB Alex Smith $5,075,000 $2,500,000 $2,575,000 2010
36 CB Shawntae Spencer $4,550,000 $2,850,000 $1,700,000 2012
85 TE Vernon Davis $4,420,000 $1,980,000 $2,440,000 2010
32 SS Michael Lewis $4,150,000 $4,105,000 $45,000 2012
90 DT Isaac Sopoaga $3,217,500 $2,062,500 $1,155,000 2012
51 ILB Takeo Spikes $3,000,000 $2,250,000 $750,000 2010
81 WR Brandon Jones $2,960,000 $2,150,000 $810,000 2013
52 ILB Patrick Willis $2,640,000 $760,000 $1,880,000 2011
68 OT/OG Adam Snyder $2,550,000 $1,650,000 $900,000 2011
15 WR Michael Crabtree $2,287,500 $2,287,500 2013
13 QB Shaun Hill $2,200,000 $1,500,000 $700,000 2010
93 DE Demetric Evans $1,900,000 $1,400,000 $500,000 2010/2009
96 DE Kentwan Balmer $1,783,000 $583,000 $1,200,000 2012
74 LT Joe Staley $1,710,000 $550,000 $1,160,000 2017
98 OLB Parys Haralson $1,700,000 $1,200,000 $500,000 2013
66 C Eric Heitmann $1,700,000 $1,400,000 $300,000 2011
99 OLB Manny Lawson $1,684,220 $625,000 $1,059,220 2010
6 PK Joe Nedney $1,630,000 $1,130,000 $500,000 2011
44 FB Moran Norris $1,583,333 $1,250,000 $333,333 2011
46 TE Delanie Walker $1,515,000 $655,000 $860,000 2012
4 P Andy Lee $1,281,666 $1,000,000 $281,666 2012
86 LS/TE Brian Jennings $1,152,000 $855,000 $297,000 2014
69 OG/C Tony Wragge $995,000 $820,000 $175,000 2010
62 RG/OT Chilo Rachal $927,000 $470,000 $457,000 2011
24 FB/RB Michael Robinson $915,000 $650,000 $265,000 2012
89 WR Jason Hill $738,454 $510,000 $228,454 2010
91 DE Ray McDonald $698,125 $550,000 $148,125 2010
30 SS/CB Reggie Smith $666,000 $470,000 $196,000 2011
38 FS Dashon Goldson $653,221 $550,000 $103,221 2010
29 RB Glen Coffee $602,063 $395,000 $207,063 2012
25 CB Tarell Brown $594,250 $550,000 $44,250 2010
59 C Cody Wallace $592,000 $470,000 $122,000 2011
84 WR Josh Morgan $496,500 $470,000 $26,500 2011
61 OT Chris Patrick $470,000 $470,000 $0 2010
56 ILB Scott McKillop $443,063 $395,000 $48,063 2012
7 QB Nate Davis $432,575 $395,000 $37,575 2012
28 FS/SS Curtis Taylor $409,970 $395,000 $14,970 2012
95 DE/DT Ricky Jean-Francois $405,500 $395,000 $10,500 2012
47 FB Brit Miller $395,000 $395,000 $0 2010
50 OLB Diyral Briggs $395,000 $395,000 $0 2010
TOTALS:
Cap Total $86,851,459
Top 51 Rule
Dead Money $200,100
Workout $275,520
Cap Room $53,148,541
Potential 2010 FA's:
RB 33 Thomas Clayton
WR 88 Isaac Bruce
WR 83 Arnaz Battle
OG 64 David Baas
OT 65 Barry Sims
OT 77 Tony Pashos
NT 92 Aubrayo Franklin
OLB 55 Ahmad Brooks
ILB 57 Matt Wilhelm
ILB 53 Jeff Ulbrich
CB 27 Walt Harris
CB 31 Dre' Bly
CB 20 Keith Smith
CB 23 Marcus Hudson
FS 26 Mark Roman

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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For sure let

keith smith, mark roman, and arnaz battle go. If any are resigned i will be pissed

by june8thjrat on Dec 7, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions  

restruct contracts for

Clements and Jones. Maybe Spencer but he has been playing good. I’m not saying Clements is bad, but he is playing like he should get 8+ million. Jones just sucks. Maybe even cut him. He has had one catch so far and screwed up on a punt return. Not worth 2 million a year. Snyder shouldn’t 2.5 million. He sucks. I could do the same job for less money.

Go 49ers

by iaalexeeff on Dec 7, 2009 6:37 PM PST reply actions  

restructuring deals is a two-sided agreement.

I’m pretty sure Snyder, Clements and Jones are perfectly content with being grossly overpaid, and will thus have no desire to restructure their contracts. Don’t count on such a thing ever happening.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Dec 10, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

generally people restructure deals because they have a loyalty to the team. I don’t think any of those players are particularly loyal to the Niners.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 10, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Out of that list...

… the only guy I can see with any potential loyalty would be Snyder. But even then, $2.5M isn’t that terrible for a backup tackle, even.

by sfgfan on Dec 11, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Keith Smith

great coverage yesterday right before Seattle’s GW FG. FART NOISE

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 7, 2009 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

It's weird to talk about cap room when it will probably be an uncapped year ...

… and if it isn’t an uncapped year, that’s because a new CBA will come in which will probably lower the cap.

Also, the future cap will probably be lower. So teams need to be very careful with long-term commitments so that they’re not over a future cap.

by Ronaldinho on Dec 7, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Taking a shot in the dark here

but I think that we will have a new CBA in place by March. I think that the percentage of salary cap money stays the same (Currently it’s at 60% of revenue), but I expect the minimum to be lower. I also bet that teams will get credit for certain player related expenses.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 7, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That gives us lots of room

I expect Baas will be resigned for another year or two. Ulbrich might be let go because o fhis medical history. Smith, Hudson, and Roman should be let go. Resign Wilhelm, Brooks, Pashos and Sims. Throw lots of money at Franklin to keep him around.

This salary cap looks good for us. We’ll be able to pay top dollar to get quality FA here.

It’s unbelievable that Snyder is making more than Staley.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 7, 2009 6:58 PM PST reply actions  

I Don't See The 49ers Re-Signing

any of their own free agents with the exception of Brooks, Franklin and maybe Wilhelm. Regarding Clements, if he is willing to take a pay cut then keep him, if not let him go.

I am not sure if the 2010 season will be uncapped or not but either way the 49ers are going to be in a great position to make major damage in free agency. with two 1st round picks and about 55 million to spend look for San Francisco to take that proverbial step to the next level.

"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"

by nocal81(Vincent) on Dec 7, 2009 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

I wish we could get something in trade for Clements

But I doubt it and there is no way he’s worth 8 M right now. Kick him to the curb if we have to.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 8, 2009 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

No one will want to pay him that much money

He is too high priced to be decent trade value.

by aj_is_good on Dec 13, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably depends on who we get in FA

If Baas resigns it won’t be for much more than we’re paying him now.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 8, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

usually you find them in fresh water

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Dec 8, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Dec 8, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Not Sea Baas

If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.

by Drew Kerr on Dec 9, 2009 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

haha nice! I was trying to think of a good Sea Bass reference

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

That guy can block in a phone booth . . . err bathroom stall.

by bignerd on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Why let Clements go

Have you not seen how pathetic the secondary is without him?

by Rocky63215 on Dec 13, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Post ideas

Jason will be posting on the front page about the salary cap once the season ends. In the meantime, anything in particular you’d like to see him post about? I’m trying to come up with ideas, but anything that interests anybody is definitely welcome.

by David Fucillo on Dec 7, 2009 7:01 PM PST reply actions  

trade clements?

is it possible/cost effective to trade him rather than cut him?

by brtdud7 on Dec 7, 2009 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Why is Moran Norris making that much?

He’s signed through 2011 also. Brit Miller is going to be good…very good I think. He was an animal on special teams and cracked a few heads this past weekend. He is fast, strong, can catch, and blocks really well. He is definitely the FB of the future in my opinion.

We met in a past life and you were wrong then too

by Drew Kerr on Dec 7, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions  

Mine too

Cut Norris or move him to 2nd string. I do think that Miller moving up is a sign of the future for Norris.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 7, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately Snyder is here until 2011 also. I am thinking backup RG or LG for 1 more season I guess

We met in a past life and you were wrong then too

by Drew Kerr on Dec 8, 2009 1:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Jason

Is the bonus money signing bonus money or incentives? If incentives are they Likely to be Earned incentives?

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 7, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions  

combo

Its a combination of both Signing Bonus and other bonuses earned, like Roster, Option and Incentives.

by AB83Rules on Dec 7, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Idea for Jason

since the 49ers probably will make some FA signings of O-linemen, if he could put up the salary cap for teams like the Saints and Patriots who have UFA O-linemen that would could interested in. (Ex: Logan Mankins, Jahri Evans). I know next year might be uncapped, but it could give us some perspective on the likelihood that those guys would be FAs.

Go 49ers

by iaalexeeff on Dec 7, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions  

Shouldn’t we try to extend VD’s first since he hits free agency in 2011

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Dec 8, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure...

… the team is trying to extend both. Problem is, neither player is probably in any kind of hurry to sign anything until the CBA works itself out.

by sfgfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

TRADING NATE CLEMENTS

would it be cost effective for us rather than releasing him as some want to do (i am not one of these people) to trade him?

maybe we could trade him to a team like the chiefs who need secondary help, and therefore lessening the chances that eric berry gets taken first by them?

by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 7, 2009 11:23 PM PST reply actions  

well

Well, there really wouldnt be any difference in cap relief if we cut or trade Nate.

he is signed for 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013(which is a voidable yr).

But i doubt any team will want to take on his salary, ala Reggie Bush where no one wants his high salary.

by AB83Rules on Dec 8, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Salary

The acquiring team would only be responsible for his base salary, right? If Clements continues to play solidly, I’d think he’s worth that $6M in base pay. If he flounders, they could also cut him without any penalty, I think.

As you mention, it won’t be any difference to the 49ers financially, but if they are dead set on ridding themselves of Clements, I’d imagine some team is willing to ship over a late round pick (at least) for him. Not much value, but still something rather than nothing.

by sfgfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I would really like to consider switching Nate to safety in the offseason. He tackles reasonably well and he still has pretty good speed for a safety.

Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.

by dcp on Dec 8, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

But if we switch Goldson to SS and everyone wants us to draft Eric Berry at FS, who do we take now?

Sometimes I lay in bed at night and wonder if McCloughan ever thought about becoming a gynecologist.

by Mr. Nice Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Haden.

He’s the consensus #1 corner in the draft.
I think a starting defensive backfield of Goldson, Clements, Spencer and Haden could be pretty good.
Of course, Clements would be the most expensive Safety ever, but still, it would be nice to have him as an asset rather than a liability (game-wise, not salary cap-wise).

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 9, 2009 5:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Dashon Goldson is not, and will never be, a strong safety.

Especially in a Manusky-coached defense. Goldson is terrible at shedding blocks, and he is a liability when trying to tackle larger players. He would be nearly useless as an 8th man in the box and in coverage against tight ends – which is what Michael Lewis specializes in.

Not to mention the fact that Goldson is the guy we’re trying to eliminate from the line-up by bringing in secondary help and/or rotating our players.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Dec 9, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Berry

Still. Clements isn’t a spring chicken per se. By the time his contract starts to escalate we can decide if Berry is worth sending Nate packing.

by Tre9er on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

While I do think that Nate Clements would make an excellent free safety, we simply cannot afford to take him out of the CB slot. We’ve seen first-hand in his recent absence how brutally our corners can be abused when he isn’t in the line-up. Moving Clements would be like taking a band-aid off of one gaping wound and putting it on to a cut of comparable size. We’d just be transferring our troubles, rather than actually fixing them.

If we’re going to address the FS position (and we desperately need to), then it’s going to have to be through the draft, free agency, or a possible trade. Even if we do move Clements to safety, it will only make sense if we bring in new talent in the secondary to fill his current spot.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Dec 9, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

logical argument:

If you were the Chiefs and you were drafting ahead of us – would you trade for Nate Clements (and his bloated salary) or just use your #1 pick on Eric Berry? If he falls to us, it’s going to be because everyone else had players higher on their board – not because we were able to change anyone’s mind about drafting the kid.

Because he seems to be very high on most draft boards, I wouldn’t expect him to be available unless we’re drafting somewhere between the 7th and 12th pick. The 49ers haven’t shown much interest in trading up in recent years, so I’m just not holding out hope on Berry being a 49er next year.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Dec 9, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

… unless we’re drafting somewhere between the 7th and 12th pick.

I don’t think that’s remotely out of the realm of possibility.

by sfgfan on Dec 9, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

TRADE HIM TO THE CHEIFS

I like that idea… get some value out of him. Annnnnnnd chiefs are the team most likely to take Berry. ha

by GMARCH on Dec 8, 2009 12:08 AM PST reply actions  

For those who don't know Jason...

He really is dedicated when it comes to the Salary Cap. He has a lot of knowledge in that area, as well as the 49ers as a whole. I encourage you to ask him questions.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Dec 8, 2009 1:43 AM PST reply actions  

thanks

Thanks Drummer, apreciate the kind words.

more background on myself, Ive been keeping track of player salaries, since 2000(on and off between 2002 and 2004, but been doing it since 2005).

by AB83Rules on Dec 8, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If any questions I shall ask

Always wanted to know couple salary cap questions like my previous question would the niners be a good player in free agency regardless if there was a cap or say for instance if the NFL became the MLB in regards to no cap? If the NFL became a league with no cap would the niners become a mediocre team? I know right now our situation cap wise looks good looking at the numbers.

by 49ersAllTheWay on Dec 8, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Only time will tell

I guess time will tell if there is no CBA, and no Cap, thus we will find out whether we compete with the Dallas’ Washhington’s, NY teams, etc.. when it comes to FA’s.

Im not worried as much as some are, I like our Team president Jed York, who i think will dish out money for top notch players, like a OG, which is a positiion we need badly.

by AB83Rules on Dec 8, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

tough one

I dont think there will be a lockout after 2010, maybe after 2011 tho.

Of course, the talks are having a rookie cap, meaning like NBA, a player picked wherever is set to an amount.

Thats why you may see a unbeleivable amount of Juniors enter the 2010 draft, like a Mallett.

by AB83Rules on Dec 8, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Mallet is a redshirt sophomore

But it would make sense for him to declare from a financial standpoint.

The comparisons to Joe Flacco are going to come up…..

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Dec 8, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do people keep talking about Mallett for the 49ers?

He’s played 1 year, never broke 60% completions, and the Niners’ QB situation is basically set for 2009, and yet people want to invest a draft pick on him? Bizarre.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Dec 9, 2009 5:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Mallett . . . please

NATE “THE GREAT” DAVIS IS OUR FUTURE

by bignerd on Dec 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

THERE'S TOO MANY FUTURES!

"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Dec 9, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Sheets WAS,

But now it’s Nate the Great Dvais all the way!

Sometimes I lay in bed at night and wonder if McCloughan ever thought about becoming a gynecologist.

by Mr. Nice Guy on Dec 10, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Bass or Rachal or ...?

who is more likely to start next year: Bass or Rachal (or neither) ??

by zacksf on Dec 8, 2009 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

If I had to guess it would be Rachal

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 8, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Baas is a RFA (If no CBA)

And we all know that McCloughan doesn’t like to pay Guards.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Dec 8, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather eat Bass than have him block for me

But in all seriousness, I’d REALLY prefer if we didn’t start Rachal.

Sometimes I lay in bed at night and wonder if McCloughan ever thought about becoming a gynecologist.

by Mr. Nice Guy on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Rachal...

… will start next year. He’s not going to learn from the bench.

by sfgfan on Dec 9, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

how does a team get a cap penalty?

also, can you explain the top 51 rule, dead money and the workout?

Go 49ers

by iaalexeeff on Dec 8, 2009 7:22 PM PST reply actions  

Some answers

dead money—money you’re paying out for players who are no longer on your team. Basically someone you cut before their contract expired.

Cap penalties are hard to come by these days since the NFL has to approve every contract. If a contract is likely to go over the cap they send it back to the team to redo. If a team goes over they can be fined draft picks or money. Basically whatever the Commissioner decides.

Don’t know about workout money or the 51 rule.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 8, 2009 7:43 PM PST reply actions  

Reply fail

This was supposed to be a reply to iaalexeef

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Dec 8, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

top 51 rule and workout

Workout bonus money is for every player, not a draftee or UDFA, who participates in the teams Workout program, and each player gets a certain amount, ranging from 6,720 all the way to the 100,000’s.

as for Top 51, thats for during the ofseason, only the top 51 salaries count against the cap, cause if all 80 or whatever counted, you’d most likely be over the cap.

by AB83Rules on Dec 8, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure this is Salary Cap Question #1 on the FAQ

How do you calculate the dead money when a player is cut or released? For instance, if the 49ers decided to drop Nate Clements how much salary cap space do they save and what stays on the books?

by bignerd on Dec 8, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

do they take the same penalty

for releasing clements as they do trading him?

if the effects are the same then 100% trade him rather than release him

hes probably worth a 2nd-3rd round draft pick in a trade

by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

do they take the same penalty for releasing clements as they do trading him?

Yes, I’m pretty sure they do.

by sfgfan on Dec 9, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

NO ONE would give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Clements.

You have to remember that – in addition to being a recently-injured corner who has been a relative disappointment and is now on the decline, he also carries with him a huge contract.

Those things coupled together cause his trade value to plummet – you’d be lucky to get a 5th round choice for him at this point.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Dec 9, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe a 3rd rounder

I thought when a player is traded the remainder of the guaranteed portion of the contract is paid by the team he is leaving and only the non-guaranteed portion is paid by the new team and not the entire salary.

True knowledge is knowing you know, nothing!!

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by rlott#42 on Dec 9, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

His base...

… salaries for the next two seasons is pretty high, I’d imagine. It’s $6M next season, which is elite corner money, even without the bonus. I understand that the team can cut him if he doesn’t perform and they’re only on the hook for the game checks up to that point, but if you’re giving up a third pick, you probably want a player that you don’t cut.

by sfgfan on Dec 10, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

its

Its usually calculated by the remaining bonus money left, if the bonus left is higher than his salary, then you take a hit, but if not, and say he has 5M in salary, but 2.5M left for bonus, money, his dead money is 2.5M, but save 2.5M also.

by AB83Rules on Dec 8, 2009 10:12 PM PST reply actions  

Adam Snyder is making $2.5M?

What a travesty.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

On the postential 2010 FA's?

Are those salaries factored in to your ending numbers there at the bottom AB83Rules (Jason)?

Men who eat crackers in bed wake up feeling crummy

by Drew Kerr on Dec 12, 2009 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

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