Fox Sports Says 49ers WR Jones is NFLs 3rd biggest waist of money
by bartosh911 on Dec 9, 2009 6:57 PM PST
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Sounds about right...
"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."
by LongLiveLangerhans on Dec 9, 2009 7:21 PM PST reply actions
Shoot, I missed the obvious fat joke.
"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."
by LongLiveLangerhans on Dec 9, 2009 7:22 PM PST reply actions
HOMOPHONE POLICE
got it before I could
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
It’s not really that much guaranteed money, though (speaking in NFL terms…). I’m not hitting myself over the head about the contract.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
I’ll be surprised if he’s around for year 2 of the 5-year contract.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I’ll be pissed if he’s around for year 2 of the 5-year contract.
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
did he beat you up and take your lunch money?
What do you have against the guy? At least the guy can catch a punt. I put the bad handoff on the “reverse” on the PR on Battle. BJ remains a big-bodied guy with lots of speed. The 15-yard catch he made against the Seahawks wasn’t an easy one, and so far he’s the only guy on the Niners roster with a 100% catch rate this season :P!
Jason Hill is turning the corner!
He made alot of those types of catches when with Tennessee too
I wish he would get more playing time so that he couls earn that money. He is capable. I followed him throughout his college career and the guy catches some passes that you would not think are catchable
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
Exactly.
I’m willing to be patient with Jones, and the rest of this offense, until they’re in their second season in the same system with the same players.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
who told you?
Sources?
Raye is not going anywhere (unless he retires).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Dec 10, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
yea, but he was signed before Crabtree was drafted
doubt they would have drafted any other receiver. not like the money on Jones prevents them from signing anyone else.
by whistlingmountain on Dec 9, 2009 9:23 PM PST reply actions
His signing is why Crabtree shouldn't have been drafted.
True knowledge is knowing you know, nothing!!
Blk Sand Ninja-
Crabtree
I don’t think you don’t pass on that kind of talent.
by David Fucillo on Dec 10, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
Why do you hate the Crabtree signing so much?
He’s clearly our number 1 WR even though he missed the first part of the season. Just like the QB position, the WR position takes time to learn and adjust to the NFL. If he’s this good now, just imagine how much better he’ll be next year.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Probably some guy in WAS
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Dec 10, 2009 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
I think that guy is worth most of the money
To bad he doesn’t play QB, call the plays or can be head coach.
I wasn't talking about Hanyesworth
He’s very talented (injury-prone too, though).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Dec 10, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
That I agree with.
I should probably go back see who it was that wrote all those Peppers trade threads over the summer.
You'll be...
… in your deathbed before you’re done sorting through them all.
His injurie in preseason really hurt him
He was looking good before he got injured. Crabtree and Morgan are obviously the #1 and #2 WR’s on the team, but I could see Jones battling with Hill for the #3 spot next year. It’s not like Hill has really torn it up this season and he was never injured.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Alex seems to be willing to throw to anyone
He really spreads it out. Obviously VD is his crutch, especially in the end zone. But he threw to Hill in the Tennessee game, he always goes to Crabtree. He’s been going to Morgan more. Gore always gets his catches and now Delanie Walker. So the more talent, the better. Once you get some olinemen that can run block, you’ll have a pretty loaded offense. Just as long as these receivers can start catching the ball.
"We want WINNERS!" - Coach Singletary
Not that good of a crutch
he drops what 3 a game?
True knowledge is knowing you know, nothing!!
Blk Sand Ninja-
But he also catches...
… five to six, no? There’s a reason why QB completion percentages in the 60%-range is considered pretty good. It’s to be expected that one in three passes will be dropped or go incomplete.
I heard locally on the radio
In a Rod Brooks conversation with Kevin Lynch, that the Niner receivers were using vaseline on their arms to stay warm but that, understandibly, some of it got on the footballs. That, with the cold, could be why so many guys had drops in Seattle. Which makes me wonder why they didn’t just wear sleeves?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Seriously.
But Rob Brooks is on the sideline for the radio broadcast, no?
Yep
Sideline reporter and he said that’s what he saw. Lynch responded that he’d investigate with the players. I didn’t know that it helped keep you warm, just that it kept the skin from drying out in freezing temps. But if I’m trying to play WR I’d just rather go with long sleeves. It would make more sense for a lineman so your opponent can’t hold you.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
why wouldn't they just put on long sleeves?
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
That doesn’t make sense.
Wouldn’t it be against a rule, some rule somewhere, that players could not grease their bodies. Wouldn’t that give them an advantage breaking tackles, shedding blocks, etc.
I know there is a rule similar to this
cause shortly after I got out of high school round about 10 years ago the running backs on my old team got busted for spraying PAM of all things on their uniforms to make them slick. There is definitely a rule against greasing yourself.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 12, 2009 4:21 AM PST up reply actions
Alex doesn't ever lose his confidence in him
He has shown that when a receiver drops a ball, he’ll go right back to him. I like that. VD definitely has dropped some very easy balls, but compared to past seasons, he’s really broken out this year. He’ll get it together. He’s had a ton of QB’s throwing to him during his career, so maybe going with one QB for a continued period of time will help all these guys.
"We want WINNERS!" - Coach Singletary
3 last week
2 of them would’ve been TDs probably.
If he didn’t drop so many balls VD would probably have 15 TDs this season.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
he needs to get his chance
I hope he battles Morgan next year. Tell me (besides blocking) what Morgan does that much better than Jones?
Nothing,
My opinion is worthless, but I think Jones is better in most ways. Maybe not in blocking.
Brandon Jones
Regarding the utilization of Jones, or lack of, fans must be completely bewildered. Jones was injured at the start of the season, but upon returning, many thought he was going to be implemented into the game plan, especially given the big contract that he signed in the offseason. Needless to say, that hasn’t happened.
The man hasn’t been given an opportunity to perform. Simply put, Jones isn’t to blame here. If fans want to point fingers for this one, they should direct it towards Coach Sing.
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Dec 10, 2009 11:31 PM PST reply actions
Singletary
The gate keeper for WRs is actually Jerry Sullivan. The guy is a stickler for details, and if he doesn’t feel the WR is up to snuff, he gets no recommendation from Sullivan. That’s what happened in previous years with guys like Taylor Jacobs and Ashley Lelie.
I’m not saying that one should blame Sullivan, I’m just saying that Singletary has to trust the judgment of his offensive assistants. Jones missed A LOT of time. The 49ers have WRs that are currently working well with Alex Smith, and they have to ease Jones in at the expense of other WRs who already have chemistry. It’s a tricky situation and it’s a bit hasty to get up in arms about his lack of playtime. He’ll have more chances once Bruce retires and if Jason Hill continues to fall out of favor with the coaches.
sfgfan
Your assessment of the situation offers a different perspective, and I appreciate it. It makes a lot of sense. But who is the head coach here? Sullivan or Singletary. Who is the one to make the final decisions regarding who plays and who doesn’t? Sullivan or Singletary. Further, who is the one with the authority? Sullivan or Singletary.
You make great points, especially the one regarding the need for Singletary to “trust the judgment of his offensive assistants”, but as head coach of an organization, you have the ability to override everyone else’s opinion. With that said, singletary has to recognize the situation: Jones was the “big-prized” free agent WR that the team brought in to try and shore up the WR core. Why not put him in and see what he can do? That’s not what you call optimizing all the talent that you have on the roster (see that Clayton kid for more; the team probably could have used his raw speed and shiftiness to return kicks).
Thanks for the response.
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Dec 12, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Overriding your coaches' opinions.
The problem with a head coach overriding his assistants opinions is that it can pretty much deem that assistant’s opinion (and possibly talents) useless to the eyes of others (players included). If Singletary was Mike Holmgren or any other offensive coach, I’m sure him taking Sullivan’s legs from under him won’t look so bad, but Singletary has a defensive background. A defensive coach has every right to yield any offensive opinions to offensive coaches, especially one as widely respected as Sullivan is.
Stepping on toes, is what some people would call it, I think.
Brandon Jones
is probably our fastest wide receiver, with great hands. He has been misused this season to say the least. No, he’s not a punt returner but he has demonstrated great hands by never dropping one. This guy should be our deep threat but offensive creativity is lacking to say the least.
Kezarvet
Never dropping a pass
He’s only had two thrown to him no?
One resulted in a PI call and the other in a nice catch.
DHB is the Raider’s fastest WR, look where that’s getting him.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Dec 11, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
The PI penalty was complete bullS***
Don’t use that as a negative on him. He didn’t even touch the defender.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Dec 12, 2009 4:23 AM PST up reply actions
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