49ers Questions for 2009: Fooch and Maiocco break it down
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Ten days ago I got in touch with Matt Maiocco about utilizing some of his reader questions to inspire posts over here. Things get quiet in the offseason and I'll take anything I can get for a post. However, he had a slightly better idea: come up with ten of the most pertinent 49ers questions heading into the offseason and link to each others answers. We've had plenty of discussion about many of these topics, but I think it's helpful to consolidate them all for this particular conversation. There are a lot of issues to be addressed this offseason and I know I missed some of them. These are simply ten that quickly came to mind. Below are my answers and you can head on over to Instant 49ers to get Maiocco's take on these questions. Due to the length, the first five questions and answers are on the front page and the final five are after the jump.
I haven't seen his answers yet, nor has he seen mine, so we'll see how they compare. As the offseason moves along we'll see who ends up getting closer in these quasi-predictions. Feel free to provide your own answers, whether it be regarding one of the questions or all of the questions. And thanks to Matt for collaborating on this.
1. Who on the roster has the best chance of being the starting QB heading into week 1 of the regular season?
I'll stick with Shaun Hill for the foreseeable future. Smith has always been a better practice player, but the situation has changed from a year ago. Heading into camp last season, Hill had a very small body of work with which to compare. Although 9 more games isn't a dramatic addition, it's still three times as many games as he'd played in for his career. This should lead to a bit more benefit of the doubt.
Furthermore, although we don't have the details of the Raye/Singletary offense, it can't possibly be as complex as the Mike Martz offense. Combine the complexity of the Martz offense with Hill's practice performances and it was not a great situation. I'd like to think that life would be a bit easier in that regard heading into training camp. In answering these questions, I'm realizing a lot of this ends up more as "hoping" than thinking. Maybe it's "hoping" Singletary makes the right call.
2. Can Shaun Hill overcome his practice woes in the Jimmy Raye offense?
If the offense is not dependent on big plays, I don't see why Hill can't improve his practice performances. Often times a power running game is complimented with a shorter passing game. Hill throws a very ugly deep ball but seems to make the under 20 yard passes with relative efficiency. While we know that Singletary and Raye want a power running game, we still don't know what that means for the passing attack. If it's the shorter game that I think it will be, I see no reason why Hill can't excel in practice and on game day. Consider me an optimist in that regard.
3. Can Frank Gore give Singletary what he wants out of his "smash-mouth" offense? If not, what kind of addition would it take?
Gore proved he could dominate in the ground game in 2006. Although his numbers have decreased each of the last two seasons, it's possible bringing in a new fullback could get him back to his dominant ways. Although most of the free agent fullbacks are getting up their in years, guys like Tony Richardson, Lorenzo Neal and the return of Moran Norris could be great options for 2009. The Martz-led offense used the fullback but really not all that much and simply tried to create hybrid players like Michael Robinson and Sean Ryan. I'm convinced a legit fullback (more specifically, not Zak Keasey) would get the running game further on track. I think a fullback would do that in a way splitting carries with a Deshaun Foster type could not.
4. Is there any hope for Vernon Davis?
Unfortunately (for my psyche at least) I remain convinced Vernon Davis can turn things around in the receiving game. He's shown he can be a beast in blocking, but given his draft status, it's not surprising people want to see more. The freakish athleticism makes it hard to give up on Davis' ability as a receiver. Although Davis is a great option for stretching the field, it seems like he's been more consistent on quick screens and plays out of the backfield. Of course, our own Florida Danny had some interesting thoughts on Davis, as compared to the rest of the receivers, as well.
If the 49ers can utilize him more in those quick hit situations, he might finally reach the levels of production most people want. On shorter plays he's got the size to power over cornerbacks and the speed to get past the linebackers and make big plays, or the proverbial something out of nothing. Maybe it's not as sexy as the deep bombs, but there is nothing sexy about seeing him run an incorrect route or not reach for the deep ball. It'd be great if he was as consistent as a Tony Gonzalez or Antonio Gates, but the Duke is not blessed that way. The 49ers, and particularly Jimmy Raye, have to take extra steps to put him in a position to succeed.
5. At what point in the offseason should the 49ers make a move for a QB?
The best time to make the move would be in the mid-rounds of the draft (3rd-5th). If you've been reading Niners Nation even since December, you'll know this has been my argument quite consistently. The Alex Smith issue aside, I think Shaun Hill is a very reasonable option for the next couple of years. He's signed to a reasonable contract for the next two seasons, which would provide a solid training period for the proverbial QB of the future. They could follow the pattern of Houston/Tennessee with Steve McNair or the Bengals with Carson Palmer.
I say Alex Smith aside because until something happens, I just don't know what to expect. It's too much of an unknown situation to make a prediction on. If they work out a new deal with Alex Smith, I think it's safe to say they will not sign a veteran (no matter what, please no Kerry Collins) and instead just grab someone in the draft. If they let Smith walk, I'd fully expect a free agent and a draft choice. Either way, I'd much prefer trying to find a diamond in the 3rd-5th round rough than Mark Sanchez.
6. What three potential free agents are the most realistic for the 49ers to sign?
I actually think that technically the most likely free agent signing is our very own Takeo Spikes. But that's too easy.
Terrell Suggs, OLB/DE: He's a pricey option and the Ravens would love to have him back, but they've got too many free agent issues on defense (Scott, Lewis, Leonhard and Suggs). The 49ers have options at outside linebacker and might prefer to address this need in the draft. However, the cap space will allow them to match most deals and it might make the most sense to go for the young veteran, Suggs. He actually finished with the same number of sacks as Haralson but seems to bring more of the all-around game to match Manny Lawson.
Tony Richardson, Fullback: This could probably just as likely be Moran Norris, or maybe even Lorenzo Neal. The 49ers need a real fullback and I'm pretty confident it will be one of these aged three. I listed Richardson first because of the Jimmy Raye connection. They worked together in the Meadowlands last season, but they go all the way back to Kansas City at the turn of the century (a fitting turn of phrase for Jimmy Raye..hey now!)
Eugene Wilson, Free Safety: I discuss the free safety position twice more (#7, #10) and the more I research, the more I'm curious about Eugene Wilson. MM heard on the grapevine that free safety is a position the team is looking to address in free agency. OJ Atogwe is a great option, but I'd be curious to see what he gets compared to Wilson. Wilson has dealt with injury issues off and on, which certainly can't help his value. As discussed in the Goldson question at the end of this, I'd much prefer Goldson get the job. However, I understand the need for more depth there and Wilson could be that kind of guy.
7. What spot on defense is in most need of an upgrade?
Pass Rush: I was originally going to say that free safety needed the upgrade. However, as much as Mark Roman struggled, the pass rush's inconsistency was even worse. A more consistent pass rush could even solve secondary problems by forcing the QB to throw much faster and before his receivers have run their routes. Furthermore, at free safety you're just looking to replace one player. With the pass rush, there are several areas the 49ers might need to upgrade. That could require a big nose tackle to occupy the middle, a defensive end to occupy the edge, and the speed rusher coming from the outside linebacker position. Guys like B.J. Raji, Everette Brown and Brian Orakpo could provide some answers in the first round.
8. If Malcolm Jenkins is there at 10 do the 49ers go with him, or is Tarell Brown a legit option to replace Walt Harris?
I'm convinced Tarell Brown is a solid option going forward. With their needs along the offensive line and in the pass rush, they have a much greater need for help there than a "luxury" like Jenkins. If the top tackle and pass rush options are not there, then maybe it's worth going best available there. However, given the numbers, it's likely one of OL/OLB options is there. Of course, part of it depends on.....
9. Can Parys Haralson and Manny Lawson provide a consistent pass rush or do they need to make a play for some more well known talent?
Is Parys Haralson a long term answer? After some inconsistent playing time, the promotion of Mike Singletary seemed to get him more consistent time on the field. As discussed above, the likes of Terrell Suggs in free agency, or Everette Brown and Brian Orakpo in the draft, are very tempting. I think Haralson can be a solid pass rush threat but considering he'll be a free agent next year, it is probably a good idea to start pondering a long-term replacement.
Although Manny Lawson is a very impressive athlete, he seems to bring more of the all-around game at linebacker, from coverage to pass rush to stopping the run. Given that and Haralson's free agent status, a Suggs, Brown or Orakpo would make sense at this point.
10. Will Dashon Goldson be able to secure a starting job at some point this season?
I keep telling myself he'll lock up the starting job, but I wonder if it's more hope than reality. Reports out of training camp last summer indicated he was quite the ball hawk, something the 49ers have missed at times. However, he couldn't lock down the starting free safety job early on. When Coach Singletary took over, there was a chance Goldson could have gotten that starting job. Singletary clearly has no problems going with youngsters (see Rachal, Chilo) but the timing killed Goldson. I had never really looked at this before, but Goldson went down with a knee injury in the Giants game. The severity of the injury meant he was inactive for the first seven games of the Singletary era. There was no way he was going to take over the starting job in the final two weeks of the season.
So what does that mean going forward? MM indicated he had heard the 49ers would be looking to grab a free safety in free agency. If they're looking for top-shelf talent, that would indicate a guy like OJ Atogwe of the Rams or maybe Eugene Wilson of the Texans. If they sign Atogwe then I'd guess Goldson would not become the starter anytime soon. If they sign a lesser talent, I think Goldson will secure the job as early as training camp.
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How about moving Nate Clements to Free Safety?
I think he would make a great free safety. He cannot cover like he used to, but still has a nose for the ball. He could make plays at free safety, unlike Mark Roman….
contract
It’s been discussed before, but given that he’s still a good corner and loaded with that big contract, not sure I see it happening. But he could definitely be a money free safety at some point.
by David Fucillo on Feb 12, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Great post
I look forward to seeing Maiocco’s answers. You always get good love from the Bay Area writers!
Vernon Davis HAS to be given the ball with screens, slants, quick outs and ins. The dude (or should I say Duke?) is like a Sherman Tank. He is basically what John Taylor was. Strong lower body, great in the open field. Taylor was a little more agile, but Vernon is much better with YAC.
Shaun Hill, I agree that he has the best chance at being the Day 1 starter, but we haven’t seen Alex healthy since the early days of Jim Hostler, and in NFL time, that’s AGES ago.
I like Tony Richardson, but I think Moran Norris would come back cheaper, is a little younger, and I also like Leonard Weaver. Eugene Wilson would be a great signing, I think. Doesn’t come with a lot of name recognition, but he’s a solid player. Terrell Suggs is a bit of a reach I think, for the price tag. I see them keeping who they have, they’ve got to be pleased so far with Haralson, and I see a Right Tackle being a much more likely “big” FA signing.
Weaver
In his answer, MM indicated he thought Weaver was a possibility. I didn’t mention him because I’d imagine Seattle would want to lock him up for the foreseeable future.
by David Fucillo on Feb 12, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Two letters and it's far from an STD..........VD!!!!!!
We have to capitalize on Vernon Davis!!!! I know Singletary has to coach, but blocking? I couldn’t fathom all the cumulative dissapointment from last season when game after game he was used for blocking. Now granted he’s great at it, he’s an even more superior passing weapon that can open up and stretch the field. We have no choice but to capitalize on that this upcoming season and with his TD’s late in 2008 I think we got a taste…..
Now I’ve been a Niners Fan since early childhood 86’ and just as I’ve stuck with my squad for all these years I have to stick with some of our choices. ALEX SMITH, just as indiana jim said, we haven’t seen him healthy, I still have faith, maybe its just all that money we’re paying him, but I believe that with protection and a healthy season he can relieve a lot of our problems. Imagine he rises to the challenge( a late bloomer) If he stepped up to the plate we could direct our focus and salary cap on so many other needs. We wouldn’t have to worry about drafting a QB in rounds 2,3,4……..i say give him one more year, what can I say, I’m an optimist!
I feel like we can solve our NT issue with a free agency pickup instead of drafting which would free up focus on either a pass rush, safety or maybe even a quality reciever. Remember this is also in a world where we hopefully won’t have to worry about QB or NT.
As far as pass rush I’m really likin O-sak-po who is very feasable to be available. Although Mays would be amazing, moving Nate to FS could work and we could focus on another USC player by the name of Maualuga who Coach probably sees some of himself in. I don’t know if any quality recievers would be around by #10 but I agree with a previous statement, if Jeremy Maclin is available he’s worth a look because no team is complete without a go to wide reciever threat which we just don’t have right now although I do like BJ he’s just not it.
Tarrel Brown
I still think that if Jenkins is the “best player” on the board at #10, the 49ers go with him. Brown or no Brown, having an extra CB has never hurt anyone, especially when one of your starters is Walt Harris who’s running out of steps to lose and Nate Clements who is maybe a couple years away from that point.
Jenkins could possibly play FS
He’s a big corner that’s played some FS in the past. I like the idea of drafting Jenkins if he’s the best player available because if Clements starts to slow down in a couple years Jenkins should be able to step into that #1 CB role and Clements could slide to FS.
by methodrampage on Feb 12, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
I think that the only position we wouldn't consider drafting in a best player on the board senario would be RB
and even that is a slight option. However, I don’t think Jenkins will be that best player at 10
by foosball4949 on Feb 12, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree.
I think the ONLY position that would require a second thought is the weak-side ILB, which is the position Willis fills. As many have pointed out before, we all love Frank Gore. Gore’s got tons of talent and the 49ers got a ridiculous deal by taking him where they did. However, a RB can only carry so much of the load before he needs a little bit of help. This is especially true of a RB who’s had MAJOR operations on both of his knees previously.
I’m kind of a big fan of DBs, and I strongly believe a team can’t have too many. I think Jenkins is VERY borderline, in terms of being worth a top 10 pick. Someone who could go skyrocketing up the charts after the combine is Vontae Davis. The guy’s got the size and athleticism to be an elite CB or even FS (though I think Jenkins would be the better FS). It’s a matter of showing that either his physical tools are too good to pass up (much like Vernon Davis a couple years back) or that he has the mental capacity to make the most of his physical tools.
So basically, of the 24 positions the 49ers need a starter for, there’s really only one that they should think twice about stacking the depth chart at, and that’s Willis’ spot. Every other spot is fair game.
So you would consider drafting Wells or Moreno?
By most accounts they’ll be there. While you know that I think Gore needs a running partner I don’t think RB is at all an option in the first round. If Moreno or Wells were the next coming of Adrian Peterson I’d have no problem taking one of them but I don’t think either one is really that good. So without a truely elite RB in the draft I don’t think RB is a postion the Niners should consider at #10. Now if the Niners wanted to trade down to take a RB then thats a different story.
by methodrampage on Feb 13, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Well...
… you know my arguments are always dependent on who’s rated at the top of the team’s board when their pick comes around, as I’m all for the BPA, thing. Based on what I know, Wells and Moreno would not be considered, as there will be plenty of other people rated higher than them.
I half agree with you
It’s not that I think that RB is so set as I think that it’s set enough that we can wait a round or two to draft one instead of spending the 10th pick on it. As for as ILB goes, I was considering the position to have 2 slots instead of Willis’s specific position. For instance, I would have no problem with drafting Ray Maualuga and letting him sit a year behind willis and spikes.
by foosball4949 on Feb 13, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
realistic F.A. options
What about haynesworth? understandable he might be a bit of a scary signing considering the word on him is he only tries in contract years, but that aside, I feel he would be a fantastic NT in the true 3-4 that Sing plans on running and would free up the LB’s to get to the QB since he will require a double team almost every play.
Haynesworth
People have mentioned him, but he’s played as a 4-3 guy for the most part. Not easy just moving into a new scheme and a new role. Any particular reason you think he’d be great as a 3-4 NT?
by David Fucillo on Feb 12, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
no particular reason
It just seems that the past two seasons he has been the most talked about and most feared interior defensive lineman in the NFL. and for the record, I follow football as much as i can, but i will never claim to be a know-it-all so if im wrong, please let me know, but I feel like i read or heard somewhere that there’s only 2 or 3 teams that run a true 3-4 defense in the whole league. if im right, wouldn’t that mean that the niners would by default have to take a big NT out of the draft since switching from the 4-3 to the 3-4 is so difficult we couldnt really claim anyone solid via F.A.?
3-4/4-3
I don’t know if you’re wrong or not on the first point. As to the 3-4, not as many people use it, but with the success in New England and Pittsburgh and even Baltimore several years back, it’s gained in popularity. The 49ers ran their stupid 3-4/4-3 hybrid but once Singletary took over, they went straight 3-4 (minus nickel and dime situations of course).
And yes, more than likely a nose tackle would be drafted.
by David Fucillo on Feb 12, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
draft
so do you think that drafting a NT at the 10 spot is not a reach, or are you looking at a hidden gem in the later rounds?
by sundaysfinest on Feb 12, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
draft
Well, the guy at 10 would be B.J. Raji. Briandean, our new college scouting guy, pointed to the middle rounds for the proverbial hidden gem. I’m not completely sold on Raji, so if they go elsewhere it would end up being a mid-late round pick I think given the talent pool.
by David Fucillo on Feb 12, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
3-4/4-3 hybrid
I don’t think it’s stupid at all. If I’m not mistaken, EVERY team that runs a 3-4 runs a 3-4/4-3 hybrid. It’s not a very common thing to see only three down lineman every time the defense isn’t in their “sub” package.
The problem with the 49ers previously was not the 3-4/4-3 hybrid. It was the “big sub” package. They just flat out don’t have the personnel to play like that, at least not for 75% of a game. Until the 49ers get an effective compliment to Haralson or Manny Lawson steps up and takes away the LB spot in the “big sub” from Spikes (like a first rounder is SUPPOSED to do), the 49ers will continue to toil in those situations.
big sub
Good point. It is the big sub that had me annoyed.
by David Fucillo on Feb 13, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
I think...
… that the reason people are getting excited about Haynesworth (at least the reason I am) is that he doesn’t have to be the penetrating beast he is in contract years in a 3-4. He just has to act like he is so he can eat up blockers. The scheme is different, but I think with his size, strength, and technique he already has, he should be able to transition over to a 3-4 nose fairly easily.
Haynesworth is the one FA I think the 49ers should most definitely try to sign. I think that if the 49ers are truly sticking with their 3-4, they need a NT who can come in and help the other guys succeed right away. Drafting an NT could take some time to get any return on investment, and even then the risk is very high. I just feel Haynesworth is capable of helping right away, more so than any rookie.. I’m curious what others think about him, though.
For their respective prices I'd rather have Olshansky than Haynesworth.
I also think Haynesworth is more suited to a 4-3. I wouldn’t be sold on him as a NT and I’m not sure he’d be wild about that type of role. He’s a better pass rushing DT than NT and that’s not the 3-4 NT’s job
by foosball4949 on Feb 13, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
QB
Maybe the best time to add a QB will be when Greg Micheli from Mount Union is available as in UDFA-nobody knows who this kid is because he’s from a division 3 school (the same one as Pierre Garcon drafted by the Colts last year and the same one that hosts RB Nate Kmic another small school wonder in this years draft!)-Micheli has earned the highest lifetime passer rating(197.0) of any QB in the history of college sports he’s big fast and excels in academics ! I hope our scouts are aware of him! Sorry about previous post my cat walked on keyboard at posting-anyway check this kid out!

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