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I put up a post asking for suggested frequently asked questions for new visitors to Niners Nation and thus far I've gotten some good suggestions.  One question was a bit more tongue in cheek, but caught my attention as worthy of front page discussion.  From Neon, a fairly new visitor to Niners Nation:

"How do I mock Raiders fans without acknowledging the clear decline in prestige for the 49ers?"

Now, with the Raiders, given how awful they've been and how inept the franchise seems, I'd imagine this is not quite as difficult as it might otherwise seem.  Although they've been to the Super Bowl more recently than the 49ers, they've still turned into a god-awful franchise that does not have a whole lot of positives.

So, the question turns on some other teams' fans.  The easiest example would be Cowboys fans.  Fortunately, living in San Francisco means not having to deal with very many Cowboys fans.  However, given the large east coast contingent in SF, I get NY Giants and Pats fans like nobody's business.  Giants fans are bad enough, but Pats fans have grown oh-so-obnoxious over the last decade that they've becoming rather insufferable (all the more ironic since my own father is a Boston-born Pats fan).

So, how do you handle such fans?  Do you go for the easy ignore?  You can just let them blather on, knowing that the 49ers dynasty of the 1980s would take them behind the woodshed pretty handily.

Maybe you spout off the greatness of 49ers history.  It's an easy argument, but it also comes across as a bit defensive.  Given the recent struggles, they can fight back arguing that all we've got is the past.

For Pats fans in particular, you can get under their skin with the cheater comment.  However, I think that one has worn itself out a bit.  And, of course, the 49ers were cheaters first (I can admit it).  This one leads me to one of my favorite anti-49ers sites: 49ershaters.com.  It hasn't been updated in a couple years, which is highly disappointing.

So, given all that, how do you handle such fans given the 49ers current state of affairs?

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For Pats fans in particular, you can get under their skin with the cheater comment. However, I think that one has worn itself out a bit.

one other thing that I think has worn itself out is ZOMG like Mike Singletary totally pulled his pants down and showed his ass. OMG LOLZ.

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Feb 24, 2009 11:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

+1bazillion!!!

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

true fan

when they make fun of my niners cap, I just tell him I’m a true fan and that I stick with my team thru the rough times. I don’t bandwagon jump to whatever team is popular (while looking at their patriots cap)

by enigma80 on Feb 24, 2009 12:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How many Pats fans existed 10 years ago? That bandwagon is pretty full and the Cowboys are hoping they come back.

I have to say Giants fans are typically the least annoying . . . I have to give them credit for that.

Most Annoying fans:
Cowboys (Tweedledee) and Raiders (Tweedledum)

Viking fans can get super annoying when they win too but it doesn’t happen that often.

Don’t know how to rate Packers fans. Maybe if we beat the Packers this century I can crawl out from under the rock and take a look.

by bignerd on Feb 24, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious!

I’ve never seen the 49ershaters website, I find it funny that it’s an actual page. Only people that can actually say something to me as a Niner fan are Steelers or Cowboys fans. We are the elite 3 with 5 or more Superbowls… and the ONLY team to win 5 Super Bowls and lose none!

So I don’t waste words on haters… all i do is this:

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Feb 24, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Any time anyone said anything to me

I would come back the next day with my “Got Five?” shirt and let that do all the talking. If it was a Cowboy or Steeler than I would say we have the best Super Bowl record at 5-0. Unfortunately that Got Five shirt is kinda pointless now.

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Feb 24, 2009 3:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I live in fort worth, tx bout 30 min away from dallas, 15 min away their new stadium in arlington. All my friends are cowboys and 1 packer fan. All dallas fans do is bring up the past so i bring up the past also, and how the best players played in S.F. Montana & Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott. All are the best player in their position.

by BIG49ERS_1 on Feb 24, 2009 10:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the shout-out, Fooch

I actually went to college back on the East Coast when the Pats were starting their big run and those fans have, for me, eclipsed almost all other fans as far as being insufferable. Especially when you’ve had to hear about the Red Sox and now the Celtics. Talk about spoiled. (Belichick does provide a nice Bonds/steroids/cheater rebuttal that never fails.)

The second worst are Eagles fans. Sports fans in Philly in general are terrible. They routinely boo their own team – not a whole lot to respect and you don’t need to know much more than that.

Cowboys are still third, with the possibility of moving into a quick first if they’re ever really good again. Hate the Cowboys. If you love the Niners and don’t hate the Cowboys there might be something wrong with you. Stereotypical Cowboys fan: wannabe gang banger from anywhere but Dallas who likes to talk ridiculous trash but knows very little about football or sports in general. I don’t think I’ve ever met a Cowboys fan from Dallas. I’m sure they exist, I’m just saying. Enjoy TO, douchebags…

Packers / Giants / Steelers – These are the teams/rivalries that lack true hatred. You just have to respect these teams, and unlike the Cowboys they lack that certain quality that lets you focus your hate from deep in your soul. I just can’t hate like I want to with these 3. Still root for them to lose, though…

As far as the Raiders, ultimately they’re just too pathetic to hate. I can still try, but I don’t respect them at all. They’re an embarassment to the NFL. To the city of Oakland. To my beloved Golden State Warriors who are tarnished by sharing a parking lot.

I guess I’d like to think I can hate the Raiders once again, but they have to improve a lot for me to get there. Right now, I just feel sorry for their fans. Just b/c they made terrible life decisions to root for the Raiders doesn’t mean they should have to go through this. I don’t wish this on anyone.

Enjoy your $4 million punter, idiots.

by Neon on Feb 25, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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