Niner's Niblets

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 24, 2009 3:21 PM PST

Hello Everyone, I am officially new to the Niners Nation... err.. I should say I'm officially a new member of the website.
I've been coming to this website for a good while now, and decided it was time to add a voice to my IP address. I'd like to dedicate my first fanpost to potential FA acquisitions (hot topic as of late).

Interesting Thought
Justin Fargas, RB, Oakland: Why is Fargas on my list, you ask? Well, should the Raiders cut said Fargas, wouldn't we all be interested in seeing what he could do spelling Frank? He may not be a thumper, but at 6', 220, he's no Darren Sproles either. Oakland's crowded backfield is like a field of juicy cows, and Fargas may be on the chopping block.

Addressing a Thought
Leonard Weaver, FB, Seattle: Obvious address here, as everyone seems to be debating if this guy is our guy, ie, can he wallop and pave a path? Perhaps not yet, but excuse me for pointing out we have Tom Ratham as our RB coach, and excuse me if the fact that having a playmaker like Weaver in our backfield would make our team better. He can develop blocking skills, while he already posseses receiving skills and big play ability. While he may not be big William Floyd, Ratham could incite that kind of mean streak with the proper coaching.

Speaking of Playmakers
Sean Jones, S, Cleveland: If Cleveland doesn't sign him before 12:00am EST Friday, he's as good as gone from Brown Town. This guy has 15 INTs in his four years, with 14 coming in his last three. I don't care if he's strong safety, free safety, or punter. He makes plays. I think we need some of these guys on defense. We posses the grinders on defense, now we need the playmakers. Sean Jones is one.

Who is your mother?
TJ Houshmanzadeh, WR, Cincy: He's a great WR, but he's 31. He's been playing alongside a premier WR all of his career. Will he flourish as a number one? Great stats with Fitzpatrick at the helm this past season, but was that more Marvin Lewis and the Bengals showing Ocho Stinko he's not the team? For the money Housh will get, I say no thankee sai.

Professor, where's Igor?
Igor Olshansky, DE, San Diego (which is ofcourse german for Whale's Vagina): Big Brutus was a guy I think the team was targeting in that year's draft, but ended up with the Mad Samoan instead. He is a massive, massive individual, and strong. Which ever edge rusher is coming on his side might not have to deal with a lot of contact. Igor is a bull amongst children in the trenches. I think he'd make our O-Line tougher also, by simply mauling them in practice.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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Welcome

Glad you decided to join in the discussion. And I want to say that this is perfect for a FanPost. It provides guys to look at, along with some analysis on each of them. The easy way out is to just throw a few guys and be done with it, but this is why we have FanPosts vs. FanShots.

by David Fucillo on Feb 24, 2009 3:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

What’s a fanshot again?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Feb 24, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions

Thank you Fooch

I appreciate your input and compliment.

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by Andrew Davidson on Feb 24, 2009 3:25 PM PST reply actions

I agree with the non pick up of hewsyurmama, the signing of Sean Jones, and the signing of igor but
Its hard to teach physicality, so no to weaver
and with fargas i think that Scot McCloughan should just stick to singletary’s plan
and get him a true power back

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by supraman on Feb 24, 2009 4:27 PM PST reply actions

I can understand the no to weaver, but his playmaking abilities shouldn’t be overlooked. I think a guy like Weaver at age 26 can still learn a few things about contact in this league. The Seahawks didn’t really employ him as a regular FB, but more as a 3rd down RB.

Fargas is a long shot, but I think he’d be a better option than taking an RB too high in the draft, like succumbing to temptation and taking Shonn Greene in the 2nd round (or is it Shonne Green?). Fargas is a punishing runner, just not a straight ahead power guy. I think he’d be a fantastic compliment to Frank. But hey, Fargas still has to be dumped by the Raiders first.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 24, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions

49ers need a running back with a nose for the Endzone, we didnt do to well in the redzone last year
I say we either get Javon Ringer or Larry Johnson

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by supraman on Feb 24, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions

My problem with Ringer is that he’s had a huge amount of carries in college, and has a smaller frame. I think he’s already peaked in terms of ability, which won’t bode well for him in the pros.

Larry Johnson is a pretty big dream. If he is released, I’m sure we wouldn’t be on his list of “To-Be” places, and if we were, could we adhere to his salary demands? I mean, signing LJ to a prove it deal would be nice, but Cincinnati comes to mind as a team that would pay him mucho deniro to be a feature back should he hit the market.

I can’t see the Chiefs dumping LJ without trying to get compensation, and to trade for LJ you’d have to take on his contract. I don’t think he’d be too pleased about getting 10-15 carries a game to Frank’s 20-25.

I’d like to see maybe Gartrell Johnson as a late rounder/undrafted FA. He ran his 40 yard dash in 4.71, but it looked faster. He’s got tree trunks for legs, and has a Stephen Jackson look to him. He ran for 1300 yards and 12 TDs with Colorado State, and I think he has a better future as a power back in this league than a Ringer.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 24, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions

Gartell is in the running too.. do you think there are any chances he can convert to FB

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by supraman on Feb 24, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions

I don’t know, but based on his size, he certainly has the framework for it. I didn’t watch any Colorado State games this year, so I didn’t get to see any of this guy’s tenacity on the field. His general makeup, however, is menacing (based on the combine anyway).

I don’t think it would hurt the Niners to take this guy late, and if he isn’t what they are looking for in a power back, then try the conversion to full back.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 24, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions

I've heard Madden mention..

..Olshansky enough to interest me?

For some reason, I think Al davis will make another deal witht the devil, and make sure if Fargas leaves, it’s not across, the bay, I hope I’m wrong, but Isee Deuce as the same grade..

I’m still leaning toward Norris at FB

The only rec. we need is crabtree, a little more help frombruce would be nice..otherwise let the kids play!

Sean Jones, is intersting, but would he make a great FS, or, would he outseat Lewis?

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 24, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions

I hope Bruce doesn’t retire, and I think the Niners find their best option at WR in the draft as well. I’d fall apart if it ended being Crabtree, but I don’t think it’ll happen.

Wouldn’t mind seeing the Niners bring in a guy like Nate Washington via free agency either.

As for Sean Jones (and to correct myself, he has 14 career INTs in 4 years, but he had zero in his rookie campaign) I think he can play FS. He has a nose for the football, and with Lewis focused in on being the extra LB, Jones can roam for the ball in coverage. We need guys who can get the ball back on defense.

If they can get Jones for a 4 year, $20 million deal they should. They can give him in the neighbourhood of $6 million guaranteed over the first two years, and round out his last two years at salaries around 7 million. Will he go for that price though? Or is this even an accurate forecast?

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 24, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions

well I agree with you on one thing..

You can’t teach having a nose for the ball.. I want to hear more about this guy!

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 24, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions

any..

links showing his nose?

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 24, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions

I’m browsing right now, can’t find anything decent on Youtube.

Give me a few minutes…

Wow, nothing on NFL.com either!? Come on now.

Well, this isn’t anything with highlights, but you get a glimpse at Jones’ personality:

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 25, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions

oops

try it now

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 25, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions

I only got audio..

I appreciate you digging it up.. hard to go on just his voice..he talks like Gore..

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 25, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions

i found this video on youtube, but the quality is lackluster.

neither of them make much help to prove Jones case, and I’m surprised there isn’t any videos on him.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 25, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions

..it looks like..

he comes in from the week seem towards the strong side, and he stepped in front of it, before, and underneath the strong side wideout.

How much of that is luck, it was terribly underthrown, would’vr been an incompletion otherwise..

But maybe a nose for the ball is just being in the right place at the right time. I think Walt Harris, is the best ballhawk on the 49ers, right now.

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 25, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions

I agree with that. Walt has been a steady surprise since he came to the 49ers.

Sean Jones ability to be where he’s supposed to be creates opportunities for INTs. Because of his talent he capitalizes and makes turnovers. If Sean Jones assigned role is to ballhawk then I think he could succeed. With Michael Lewis playing 5 LB, Jones will be given the opportunity to play cover 1 or robber more often than not. Let him find the spot he needs to be in.

I don’t think the Browns are letting him walk though.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 25, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions

seems..

..like that happens with every player/coach the 49ers are interested in..

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 25, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions

oh I found the video..

..hmm

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 25, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions

Vote yes on Sean Jones!

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Feb 25, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions

ba-zing

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Feb 24, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply actions

Welcome Dre

Nice Fanpost!
Igor and Fargas interest me, the former because he could be the bookend for Smith on the D-line and a Nickel/Dime DT, and the latter because of the Rathman connection and the smashmouthiness he has to him.

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Feb 24, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions

Yes, exactly. Rathman has said he wants the RBs to be the toughest group on the field, and Fargas displayed a great amount of toughness in Oakland, with burst. He’s not the prototypical thumper, but he’d be great with Frank Gore.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 25, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions

Olshanksy went to my high scool.

fyi

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Feb 24, 2009 8:52 PM PST reply actions

I've always liked Fargas

I’d be interested to see what he could do in the red and gold

by foosball4949 on Feb 25, 2009 11:22 AM PST reply actions

Backs

I personally would like to see us add a “thumper” which I think Fargas can be, as well as possibly taking a later round pick on a speed demon and seeing if we couldn’t find our own sproles/ johnson (or even wolfe). I realize there is a Quentin Griffin for every Sproles so I wouldn’t make it a priority.

That being said I’m a huge fan of Percey Harvin after our 1st pick

by GTrain on Feb 25, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions

I like the notion of taking a peek at a smallish RB. At the very least we could find a slippery returner, or speed burner like perhaps:
Devin Moore?

Moore is 5’10, but he’s 190, so I’d say while he’s no dwarf, he’s no gigante either. Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing Allen Rossum remain our returner. When was the last time prior to Rossum did a 49er return a kickoff for a TD (on the opening kickoff of MNF nonetheless!).

Besides isn’t there already a Devin in the NFL making headlines as a returner?

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 25, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions

I think...

… 5’10" at 190 is still a dwarf, especially for a pounding position like RB. Not many RBs of that size are effective.

by sfgfan on Feb 25, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions

Just throwing it out there

Warrick Dunn? was released by TB today. Thoughts?

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Feb 25, 2009 1:22 PM PST reply actions

how much..

does he way?

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 25, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions

I mean weigh..ugh

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Feb 25, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions

180 pounds

so the answer is no

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by PHUT! on Feb 25, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions

Brooks

I know the scheme is completely different but would Derrick brooks be worth us taking a look at?

by GTrain on Feb 25, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions

I can’t see Brooks wanting in on the 49ers, and I can’t see the 49ers wanting him either. Takeo is their veteran in the corps and if they sign him to a 2 year deal, there’s no need for a Brooks. Brooks would be better suited heading to a Cover 2 like Indy.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 25, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions

Or New Orleans

by sfgfan on Feb 26, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions

Igor...

was available when it was the 49ers turn to pick. Instead, they picked future HOF, Rashaun Woods. I believe this is the draft where they could have had Vince Wifork, too.

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Feb 26, 2009 7:53 AM PST reply actions