ESPN Report: Warner possibly talking to 49ers
by Dub4lif3 on Feb 27, 2009 6:30 PM PST
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PrintFOOCH'S NOTE 6:30PM: Thanks to Dub4lif3 for spotting this article. I've made a couple small changes to clean it up a little and will have plenty more if this develops further. Kurt Warner is certainly a better short-term option than Shaun Hill and I'd like to think that even the Hill fans would admit that. It's being reported by a "source" to Len Pasquarelli, so it sits as a rumor right now. John Clayton had heard the 49ers were interested in TJ Houshmandzadeh and the 49ers were quick to deny that. So we'll see how this plays out. Definitely more to come.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3941094
you can check out the story there, a surprise to me that his agent his talking to us, and if we land him, i hope he puts up MVP-Like numbers like last year, but it's also a burden to shaun hill, he deserves time to be a starter, wut ya'll think about this?
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My first thought is... no.
He’s going to be 38, his agent is looking for 14.5 million. It’s one thing looking great throwing to Fitzgerald and Boldin, another to be throwing to Arnaz Battle (no knock on Battle). Because of the Niners’ offensive plans, I couldn’t see him putting up numbers anywhere near what he got in Arizona.
by Bob In Beaverton on Feb 27, 2009 6:36 PM PST reply actions
NO
Do NOT want.
Too much for too short of a time. 15 per??
We dont have the WR tools the Cards have, he’ll be the old Kurt with a 1-2 TD-INT ratio and a fumble a game. JTO 2.0
MURS for President!!!!!!!
money
Given that it’s a short-term contract and the 49ers have a ton of cap space, I don’t really think the money really is an issue for the 49ers.
by David Fucillo on Feb 27, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
i think money is an issue here...
…in so far as the niners need not tie up that much money in a short-term solution. also, as this recent study implies, it’s not having money that matters; it’s how you spend it. i’d rather they take that $15M and spend it on multiple players. final point here is that warner would seem to be the classic “buy high, sell low” acquisition, which is obviously the opposite of ideal. they’d be paying top dollar for a guy who has a much higher value on the open market right now than he will when his contract expires (if he plays that long).
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Feb 27, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
oops...
here’s that recent study
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Feb 27, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
So you're advocating signing Warner as a back-up?
At $14-15M per year. You sir are a genius.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 1, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Warner would be a good move...
in the event that Alex Smith’s contract is not renegotiated, and he does not return. He would be a significant upgrade over Hill and play the same role of a 1-2 year solution while a draftee or younger player learns the offense.
I think the 49ers are thinking the same.
Warner isn’t going to sign with us because of what we did to his buddy Martz
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No, they won a Super Bowl together and that makes them best friends for life.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Feb 28, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
YESSSS
YES WITH A CAPITAL J!
sign him, draft stafford. Take away a division rival(who relies on a passing game)’s qb
JES
If you had a lineup of 9 Jack Custs who hit(Cust career average) .239 AVG, .382 OBP, and .475 SLG, then your team would score 6.12 runs per game-totalling to 991runs a season.The 08 rangers lead the majors in runs score with 901.
no way he makes it to 10
and we don’t want him
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Feb 28, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Word.
This looks even more likely now that the Lions have shipped Kitna to the Cowboys.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/28/lions-deal-kitna-to-cowboys/
Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!
Sanchez > Stafford
In the long term.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 1, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
No
But that’s what I’ve read just about every where. Stafford is more NFL ready but Sanchez has more tools/talent.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 1, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Warner was a journeyman for a reason...
He is a great passer but when the pocket breaks down he flounders. Last year it was different because he had three gaudy receivers, a nice TE, and 2 rbs who could catch out of the back field. We have no receivers that match up remotely with Arizona’s, yes even Breaston is better than any of ours. If you watched Warner he would throw dangerous passes when the pocket broke down, but because of those great receivers they could make up for his passes. Lastly we will be a run first, controlled passing game, team next season and that is not Warner’s M.O.. I would prefer Garcia far more than Warner, especially with our type of our offense.
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by StrictlyFootball on Feb 27, 2009 7:48 PM PST reply actions
I'm mild on it, but...
The 49ers have used eight different starting quarterbacks the past three seasons, and landing Warner, even at his age, would provide much-needed stability at the position.
I have a problem with that statement from the article. Unless Warner is made of titanium, he won’t provide any more stability than we’ve already had those past three years. I don’t mind getting him, but stability is horrible reasoning. Does ESPN have any credibility left?
how much stability can a 38 year old QB bring?
If you had a lineup of 9 Jack Custs who hit(Cust career average) .239 AVG, .382 OBP, and .475 SLG, then your team would score 6.12 runs per game-totalling to 991runs a season.The 08 rangers lead the majors in runs score with 901.
If
If the Niners are convinced that Smith won’t sign (doesn’t appear that way from the tea leaves) and that Hill, despite his winning record, isn’t a “winner”, then drafting someone and bringing in Warner wouldn’t be that bad. But do the Niners want to pay Warner to hand off and throw ball control passes? Hill will do that, Smith can do that. For that matter, for a backup, so can Gus Frerotte.
I’d just as soon keep Hill and Smith and draft a QB in the middle rounds. Put that money to better use.
by Bob In Beaverton on Feb 27, 2009 8:14 PM PST reply actions
No thanks
The only team Kurt will have any signficance on in 2009 is Arizona.
The Niners better not overpay for a QB that doesn’t fit into a play action pass, bootleg style offense.
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 27, 2009 9:37 PM PST reply actions
Warner
Of course we want Warner ankd of course it’s not too much money. Warner will be more efficient for deep throws downfield then either of our qb’s. Maybe we should run plays with V Davis at WR, and make up for lost time. You’ve gotta be buying this. Draft Ramses Barden and you have a jump ball receiver. We didn’t have a problem with dropped passes just ineffective red zone play. Here’s another reason to bring Johnson back they have had some rapport. He’s too accurate to pass up. Alex Smith can go adn we can groom a late round qb or look to one in the future. Kurt Warner with Shaun Hill backing him up would be great as long as we run the ball well.
That would change our mock draft and FA outlook. Now Canty looks intriguing and so does m jenkins to play FS at pick 10 or trade down and get V Davis and another 3rd or second. If he’s interested pull the trigger..
VD at wide receiver. lol
Vernon Davis has hands made of either stone or bouncy ball rubber. He won’t stretch for a ball. He’ll get there quick and not catch it. The only team I’d like to see him line up at WR is the Cowboys. I think we should keep using him for what he’s good at, blocking and short passes (2009/10 offense). He’s better at running with it instead of running to it.
And when was the last time a mock draft was even close when analyzing the Niners. I categorize mock drafts and the Sunday comics together when I need to read some humor.
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Feb 28, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions
oops. I left out VD’s route running skills. If he lined up at WR, he might get a ball because his defender would be curled up on the ground laughing at the call.
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Feb 28, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
You can say what you want,
but if Vernon could catch a large percentage of passes thrown to him as a WR, exactly which of these “curled up, laughing DBs” would ever have a prayer of covering him?
Thats a huge 'if'.
It doesn’t matter what title you give him. He has to run a correct route and catch the ball to be a threat. I think he’ll be well suited in his role next year- blocking and running short simple routes. Raye will utilize his run after catch abilities batter than any previous OC did.
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Feb 28, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
batter = better… same thing
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Feb 28, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Kurt Wants $29 million
The Cards want to give him $20 over 2, Kurt wants $29 over 2. Why would the Niners sign that kind of garbage contract?
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 28, 2009 9:10 AM PST reply actions
In summary: Kurt Warner would be an acquisition that, as a group, we are far more welcoming to than we would have thought if you asked us in the middle of the Shaun Hill winning streak. But he doesn’t come without concern, namely the offensive line and the fact that if I do take a shot every time he mentions Jesus I’ll probably die, and I don’t think alcohol poisoning gets you into heaven.
And damn, that’s a lot of money.
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To clarify, I’m not criticizing Warner for being a devoted… ummm… Christian denomination. I think that’s admirable. I’m simply making light of the sometimes self-parodic style with which he promotes that devotion.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
Which one of these guys is not like the others?
a) Mike Singletary
b) Tom Rathman
c) Kurt Warner
d) Jimmy Raye
This is easy.
Why d. of course. He didn’t play in the NFL.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Feb 28, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Don't Jump The Gun On Warner!
Warner would improve the QB situation, however, this would be a short-term answer and may cause an issue to sign Vick (if re-instated in 09’). The Niners need to focus on signing Michael Vick when he is re-instated into the NFL.
Didn't we already discuss this
And we all pretty much agreed that we don’t want and/or need Vick. Please, stop that.
Not going to happen
Simply this is a move by the Niners and Warner to drive up the price on Arizona. The more money Arizona spends on retaining a 38 year old QB the better it is for the Niners. This deal will not happen.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
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