49ers Minicamp I: The value of a little perspiration
The 49ers wrapped up their first minicamp of the offseason yesterday. The second day brought a second Mike Singletary press conference. I've placed the transcript after the jump, but was intrigued by much of what I read about these practices.
I realize that professional football players do plenty of running and calisthentics to build up their wind. However, in reading Maiocco's and Barrows' various posts on the minicamp, I can't help but notice how much they discuss the running and boot camp style exercises that Singletary is using.
I'm sure there was plenty of working out under Nolan, but I don't recall it quite at this level. It makes me wonder how much of a difference this might make, if any. One Barrows comment:
During yesterday's intense, Marine Corps-like training circuit, Singletary said he was prepared to end the session early when tight end Vernon Davis piped up and said he and and his teammates wanted to complete the task. Singletary said he was very happy with the attitude of the team.
Given the big bucks these guys are making, is this something that could wear thin at some point? This past season the team showed improvement under Singletary so one might say "things were good" and people didn't have as much a reason to get pissy about the drill sergeant routine. If things go south at some point this season (certainly a real possibility), how quickly do people turn on such a routine?
My favorite line of the press conference transcript (again, after the jump) was in discussion of a sort of "workout hill" put in at the 49ers facilities. After some discussion with the strength and conditioning coach, a hill was built for additional work out options:
[T]here’s something about the hill. It’s beautiful to look at but what it’s going to do for our guys is it’s going to bring about something that you can’t really get in the weight room. Something that you really can’t get on the track. It builds something that’s kind of a mystery. But all the guys that I know that worked out on a hill, they were a cut above some of the other competition around the league and they had a long playing career. So I’m excited about the hill and it just adds another dimension to our workout and it gives Duane Carlisle a little more of an option so I’m excited about it. He’s really excited about it. He’s familiar with it and we’ll go from there.
The best part of the discussion about the hill?
RE: Does it have a name?
...Pain.
That reminds of my favorite line from Rocky III. If I can get down to training camp again this year I definitely want to check out this hill. If anybody reading this gets out to training camp, definitely try and get a picture of it.
All of this just has me wondering about the Mike Singletary coaching method when it comes to practice. When the Jags and Giants were struggling, Tom Coughlin's drill sergeant routine did not go over very well. When it comes to Singletary, I kind of think it's not quite drill sergeant, as much as just hard work. I'm sure he can yell with the best of him, but I don't necessarily see him as that type. I actually think he could inspire more fear delivering a tough speech with a calm demeanor.
Either way, is this something that can last through the lows that are bound to happen in most any season?
MIKE SINGLETARY
RE: Is this mini-camp giving you an opportunity to refine what your expectations or your shopping list is heading into the draft? Is it a clearer picture?
“This mini-camp really satisfies a number of things. First and foremost, it’s for our team to have a chance to see who they are. For the coaches evaluating, particularly the new coaches, and just really getting a look at the guys and really set the tone for the offseason and the season coming up of how we’re going to do things, the mindset and the right mentality. The most important thing that we can do is create the mindset that we need to have going forward, as well as guys to really come together and get a look at some of the changes that we made in the game plan. So it’s really a great thing for us. I’m really glad that we have this opportunity to kind of start all over.”
RE: When you got the job at the end of the season, you said that the players had to expect to work when the season began. Was that training circuit out there what you were getting at?
“Just a bit of it. Obviously the most important thing for me is to really gauge where we need to go, how we need to get there and some of the things along the way, along this journey that we’re on, how do we get that. We know we want to be a physical football team. We know we want to be a tough football team. We know we want to be smart. All of those things. Well, it’s nice to have them on the board but it’s another thing to accomplish that. So, along with our staff, when we sit down and talk about, ‘What do we want to have? What is our vision? What do we set the first day in place?’ It’s work ethic. Of all of those things, the foundation of what we’re going to do is the work ethic. And if I had guys that aren’t afraid to work, we can accomplish anything.”
RE: Are you taking notes on who’s giving you 100% and who’s not?
“No, it’s one of those things that it sort of jumps out at you. I think more importantly, the players are taking note. Yesterday, one of the things that I saw that was very nice to see was some of our leaders were leading the pack. Whether it be Vernon Davis or Frank Gore, whether it be Alex and Shaun, the quarterbacks, they were leading the way. And that’s what you have to see. That’s what you have to have if you’re going to have a championship football team.”
RE: What did you see from Alex in how he was able to throw the ball? Do you like the progress he’s made?
“Certainly. He and Shaun are doing a good job. Some of the mechanics, the refining, some of the small things, it’s always the small things that you have to do in order to be the best that you can be. So I’m excited to see some of the things that they’ve done very well so far. It’s going to be real interesting as we continue day by day to just see the progression of the quarterback position alone as well all of the other guys continuing to make strides.”
RE: One thing you’ve done since you’ve become head coach is you’ve been very straight in your talk with players, letting them know where they stand with you. For instance, Mark Roman. And you’ve been pretty straightforward with Isaac Bruce: you’d like to see him here. Do you think Isaac, a veteran player like that, appreciates the straight talk from you? Do you think he’s reacting positively to it? What’s your take?
“I never know how players are going to respond to it, I just know that I’m going to be consistent in who I am. Isaac, obviously he’s played a long time and I’m sure in his mind he has every right to say, ‘I’ll let you know when I get ready.’ But at the same time, we have a football team and if you’re a part of that team then you’ve got to let us know at a certain time. And he will. I have no doubt about that. As well as some of the other guys, I just believe in letting guys know this is what I see. I could be wrong, and if I am wrong you need to let me know. But this is what I’m seeing. So body language says a lot. You can say one thing, but body language says a heck of a lot more than that. So I just want guys to know that they can count on me to be up front. They may not like it, but I’m going to do that. I owe them that.”
RE: What have you discussed with Jonas Jennings about his situation here with the team?
“As far as Jonas Jennings is concerned, it’s just a matter of knowing that we’re going to continue to go in the direction that we’re going and Jonas has got some decisions to make about what he’s going to do but the 49ers are going to continue to go forward here. So that’s kind of where I’m at.”
RE: So do you have to wait for him to get healthy before you can do anything roster-wise with him?
“As of right now, it’s just one of those things I think right now we just evaluate and at the appropriate time do what we have to do. For right now, once again as I said yesterday, I really want to focus and concentrate on the guys here and all of those other things off the field – why guys aren’t here, all the other stuff – it’ll work itself out in time. It won’t be catastrophic. We’ll just make decisions as they come.”
RE: You mentioned changes to the building and the team, and one of the changes is very obvious. The hill over there has grown quite a bit. What’s the reason for heightening the hill?
“I talked about a hill to our strength and conditioning coach, Duane Carlisle, a couple of years ago and he misinterpreted what I want and what I was talking about. So he came up with his version of a hill. I said, ‘No, that’s not it. But we can’t change it right now.’ And we sat down and we talked and I told him what I was talking about and he said, ‘Oh, I know exactly what you’re talking about.’ So it was just a miscommunication. But there’s something about the hill. It’s beautiful to look at but what it’s going to do for our guys is it’s going to bring about something that you can’t really get in the weight room. Something that you really can’t get on the track. It builds something that’s kind of a mystery. But all the guys that I know that worked out on a hill, they were a cut above some of the other competition around the league and they had a long playing career. So I’m excited about the hill and it just adds another dimension to our workout and it gives Duane Carlisle a little more of an option so I’m excited about it. He’s really excited about it. He’s familiar with it and we’ll go from there.”
RE: Walter Payton was famous for running a hill near where he grew up. Does that go along with that?
“That’s a very generous deal. Compared to what Walter ran, it was a heck of a lot higher than that. The hill that Jerry Rice and those guys ran, it was a lot higher than that. The hill that some of the guys and I ran on, it was closer to that size where you could do a lot more things. You had a lot more options in terms of things you could do on the hill. So that’s why I’m excited about that one. There’s a lot of versatility to it.”
RE: Does anyone in the building know the exact dimensions of it?
“To be a little bit more specific, it’s about 45 to 47 feet. It’s about 45 to 47 feet. If you go over there and just walk up, it’s about 45, 47 feet. From the lip of it at the bottom on the front side. On the back side there’s just a different slope to it, spot that will give you a little bit more but that wasn’t exact.”
RE: Does it have a name?
“No. Pain.”
RE: When you enter the month of April does your mindset switch solely to the draft or do you continue to think free agency as well or, this is your first draft, are you going to focus solely on the…?
“I think everyday my mindset is the same from today going forward and it’s just about whatever we have to do to get better whether it’s free agency, whether it’s the draft, whether it’s continuing to focus on the things that we need to do better in getting our players in better shape, whether it’s looking at an injured player and trying to get them back as fast as we can. I’m thinking about all of it in terms of what we have to do to get better and that’s not going to change. It’s an ongoing thing. As a matter of fact when you see me writing or something like that, I’m just constantly thinking about what is it that we have to do, to get there and that’s my focus.”
RE: I brought this up earlier, but has the minicamp sharpened any of that focus at all now that you’ve seen your assembled group here?
“The basic thing that I really wanted to accomplish here out of this, the first minicamp is to really set the tone and I really think yesterday when we were running and going through the circuits and what have you, I was very impressed by the response of the guys. I thought it was, for the first day of minicamp and voluntary minicamp they had no idea what to expect. Maybe the fact that they heard something about a circuit scared them to death and they just worked out more, but I was very pleased with what I saw and the coaches were and I think the players were. I gave them an opportunity to stop and I said, ‘You know guys, I think I’ve seen what I needed to see, we can go onto something else and I think Vernon [Davis] was the first one that said, ‘No, we are going to finish this,’ and everybody else chimed in. I think it says a lot about our team and it says a lot about our guys and I’m just really excited about it.”
RE: Did you see more of that and less missing pieces perhaps?
“Oh, there’s not doubt about it. I think the core of what we need is right here. I think the most important thing that we have to do is refine what we have and we’ve got some pieces here in place and guys that don’t know that they are a piece yet, but I can see it and some of the coaches can see it, they are the piece, but it’s just a matter of going through the fire to develop it and get there. So I’m very excited about that.”
RE: There were a few guys yesterday that didn’t practice, that I’m assuming are here, that had injuries. You talked about Tarell Brown. What is his condition?
“The thing that I want to say in response to the injuries. Here’s how it is for me. As the head coach, one of the reasons it takes me awhile to hire someone is because I really know what I’m looking for and when I see it, I hire it, but when I do that, I want to allow everybody to do their job. I believe in delegating and they have ownership and the most important thing for me, and this may be a bad thing for a head coach, but all I want to do is, if someone’s hurt, I want to find out, is it catastrophic. Is it going to set him back more than two weeks? Is it going to be something where he can’t be ready for the next minicamp or the next OTAs. If the answer is no, then let’s get it well and let’s go. So as far as the injuries, I don’t want to get into it. I just think some guys are a little bit sore. Some guys are a little bit nicked up here and there, but I don’t really…it’s March and I don’t’ really want to get into it.”
RE: So are you saying that none of those guys that didn’t practice have things that are going to linger?
“Absolutely.”
RE: They’re not?
“Absolutely. With the exception of Ray [McDonald]. Ray we will have to see in training camp and go from there, how that goes and we are going to be very gentle with that and we are going to listen to him a lot and specifically the doctors and we’ll go from there, but most of the other guys, it’s kind of a day-to-day thing and we’ll see at the time.”
RE: This minicamp there’s been some requests to talk to some assistant coaches. I understand the assistant coaches, you’re not allowing them to speak to the media. Is that correct?
“Well, you can say me, you can say we. I think the most important thing for us right now, is to really look at getting better and I want our coaches to focus on doing just that. Offensively, we are a little bit behind the eight ball, so Jimmy Raye and the staff has a lot of work to do to get the guys caught up. I don’t really want them thinking about trying to explain what the offense is. Trying to explain, give a rhyme or reason for this or that. Let’s get the show on the road, let’s go. We’ve got to get to work and get it done. At some point in time, on a limited basis, we will make them available.”
RE: On a limited basis?
“On a limited basis.”
RE: So you will not allow your assistants to…?
“I’m saying on a limited basis and at that time, we’ll figure out how much of a limit it will be, but for right now I’m saying as a staff we want to not make them available and just let them get to work so we can get caught up and at some point in time, on a limited basis we’ll…”
RE: Does this have something to do with some of the stuff that came out in the media last week about communication?
“No sir. Absolutely not. It wasn’t just last week, but there are several things that have been written throughout the offseason, not just last week, about communication and whatever, but I’m very confident that those things we’ll handle in-house. We’ll get it solved. But it has everything to do with staying focused and being on one page and trying to stay true to the course. We have a vision here that we want to achieve by the kickoff of the season and we don’t want anything to hinder us from that. So how about let’s go to work. And everybody will see soon enough what the offense is, who it is, who’s the starter, all the other kind of stuff. What we’re going to run – it’s all the same anyways, it’s just who’s running it. So for us, it’s just that we made the decision to say, ‘Let the guys coach.’ And at the appropriate time, and I respect what you guys are doing – I know you need to talk to them at some point in time and we’ll do that, but right now I just feel that it’s really important for us to get moving. Get going.”
RE: What’s your day to day responsibilities going to be from now until the draft?
“They change everyday. I wish I could tell you. I wish I knew from day to day. But every morning I come in and I have to make a decision of what is the most important thing that I need to do this morning to get us better. Who do I have to lean on a little bit more? What do I have to deal with over here? So every day is different, and I’m thankful for that because it could get very boring. But trust me, it is not. So I’m thankful to have that responsibility and very thankful to have choices every day that I have to make. To me, being in a leadership role is all about deciding what has to be done right now. Today. And let the rest wait.”
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The Hill
I think the hill can be a useful tool for players, as long as it shows results. Jerry Rice used to run hills all career long, and look at the shape he was in.
If Singletary can teach this guys how to finish, and can prove that hill will help them finish, then I think this team will be fine.
If the hill is only an offseason conditioning tool, then it should serve its purpose aptly. It will be interesting to see, and interesting to see how the player’s react.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 22, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamstring Hill
Here ya go. While I was expecting bigger, its still big nonetheless.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/03/22/SPUI16KU04.DTL&o=0
by dban on Mar 22, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/21/SPUI16KU04.DTL
by dban on Mar 22, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, links don’t work. well, just look under the latest nuggets for the picture at SFGate
sorry
by dban on Mar 22, 2009 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
link
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/03/22/SPUI16KU04.DTL&o=0
there, that should work now.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 22, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that
hill is sweet looking. I thought it was just a pile of lose dirt. I want that in my yard. I would also like a yard.
by save10 on Mar 22, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE: I want that in my yard
Yeah, I bet its a blast to mow.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 23, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They don't mow...
… they just re-sod it every few weeks!
by sfgfan on Mar 23, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have any of you actually been through boot camp?
I did, in the Air Force in 68/69 and I had a couple tuff Blue Baret TIs but they were strong and had a sense about them like I get from Singletary. Going into boot camp was difficult as most of us did not really work out much before. At the end we are all in great shape and it just felt good to keep it going after boot camp. The Hill and the Circuit training is going to put these guys in great shape. Also, like with us in the AF and friends in the Army and Marines (Marines were a lot more than I had in the AF), said the same thing. It made you feel great afterwards. You started getting up in the morning with lots of energy and maintaining it all day. These guys will love it, they will expect it to get better and better. Also, After reading the interview today and also the Ralph Barberi interview (Ralph was in way over his head), I think Singletary is just want the 49ers need to become world class again.
Jerry Rice and Roger Craig did the hill on their own and it showed in how they played. I think even with just the players we have now, the 49ers will be a much better team in 2009.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Mar 22, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
to be fair,
I’m pretty sure all of these professional athletes have worked out before. It’s possible that this could be seen, by some players, as extra (and unnecessary) work.
by shlecko on Mar 22, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that Jerry Rice would run up a hill during the off-season, I think I even recall a show when Rice took T.O. through his off-season routine. Ladainian Tomlinson has a hill in his backyard and is a bit tougher and I’m sure more painful because his hill consists of just loose dirt and it is more steep , it’s not landscaped. I think the hill will be great for the niners. As far as coach Singletary goes, I think there’s a difference between being a drill-sgt. and a motivator, and he is indeed a motivator, he has the respect of the team, and will have the respect reagardless of the outcome of the season.
by sundaysfinest on Mar 22, 2009 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actions speak louder than words
and if Coach Sing is emphasizing conditioning and the players physical shape than I’d say that is a direct comment from him on the state of the players physical conditioning and possible mental toughness from seasons past. In my opinion we never really developed fast starts or overwhelmed anyone based on physicality, and we probably came up short a number of time in the many mental pressure plays where things are on the line such as needing a key 3rd-down conversion or something. Anyone agree/disagree?
by jviet on Mar 22, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Case in point: MNF vs Arizona
If we had a strong push on that last play (even thought it should have been a different play) to put Robinson in the end zone, last season would be verrrrrrry different (No Arizona in the SB? How far do the Niners go in the playoffs?).
I look forward to seeing what happens when Sing gets the whole team together, and how long these sessions last into training camp.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Mar 22, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
And the crowd goes wild!!!!!
Fooch I have been dying for a post about Singletary’s training camp. It’s an interesting philosophy: Practice and training camp will be so hard that the. Not the direct quote but you can also see it in Terrell Owens who also acredits his trainng and work ethic ti Rice minus the bulking up. So now a hill is there for the whole team!!!!
Enough to win the NFC West if we play our cards right in the draft.
Ramses Barden is a must add if not another big receiver who can be a redzone threat.
by rlott#42 on Mar 22, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you complain about working out you can find another team
These players are some of the finest athletes in the world and they’re being paid a ton of money to play a fun game. If our team works harder we’ll be in better shape. Tough workouts also breed a sense of camraderie that helps with morale. What else would these guys think they’re signing up for? It’s the NFL.
by Neon on Mar 22, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Drill Sergeant
Singletary’s greatest influence in football was Buddy Ryan, his DC and LB coach in Chicago. Ryan was a Master Segeant in the Korean War. This one quote from a former player of his describes “Camp Ryan” quite well:
EX-JET GERRY PHILBIN: Gladiators, man. I played under him at the University of Buffalo and with the Jets. It got mean, cruel. I’ve never seen anyone better at bringing the animal out of you. If you didn’t hit as hard as he wanted, he’d humiliate you in front of everyone. Guys like me loved him, though. He was just so brutally honest.
by GeoMak on Mar 22, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Singletary Doesn;'t need to yell..
.. Although he may at times, his motivation comes from intrigue, and command.
The players are not worried, that he is a rookie head coach, they’ve been playing football since they were kids, unless your are a QB or the D captain, football doesn;t change that much.
What the players see, is Singletarys Self-respect, and the demand from those around him to have their own self-respect. He simply puts it, " I will make you the best athlete you can be, the only thing that can get in the way is you!.."
His subliminal message, basically grabs you by the balls and , says.. “be man, act like a man, walk and talk like a man, and be responsible like a man.”
Singletary knows the people he wants around him, will let this motivate them, for it’s all for good.. it is no surprise to me, that Vernon Davis, stepped up for the whole team, and they all – for the most part – (Brooks?) Fell in line, to send the subliminal message back to their coach.. “Yes, Coach we want to be the best!”.
It’s really very simple if you think about it.
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Mar 22, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yelling
Two of the greatest and most “dictatorial” HC’s in the NFL were Vince Lombardi & Tom Landry. Both were assistants at the same time with the NY Giants (Landry Defense and Lombardi Offense) before they took over the Packers and Cowboys.
The big difference beyween the two? Lombardi yelled almost constantly . . . Landry never said two words to anybody.
by GeoMak on Mar 22, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here we go again
Yelling is obviously the greatest tool a coach has and Jim McMahon was hands down the greatest QB of all time.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 23, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
that you have trouble following simple logic but yelling has almost nothing to do with the coach as being able to get the most out of his players (the TRUE measuring stick of a coaches abilities).
Jim McMahon set more NCAA passing records than any other QB in Division 1 College Football History. That makes him statistically the greatest college QB of all time. He took those same passing (along with his leadership skills) to Chicago and played for one of the most conservative HC’s in the NFL in Mike Ditka. Still, he was a major factor in the Bears winning the SB in 85 as Mike Ditka himself is on record as saying that “without Jim McMahon we don’t win the SB that year.” The Bears probably would have won it the year before but McMahon didn’t play in the 1984 NFC Championship game against the 49ers. In 84 Montana started and McMahon didn’t. Niners win. The next year, same two teams, except this time it’s Montana against McMahon and this time the Bears win.
Your basic problem is that once you get beyond the scope of “your 49ers” you know almost nothing about the history of the NFL.
by GeoMak on Mar 23, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing you miss about any of these "dictatorial" coaches you mentioned...
Is that they coached prior to FA and Salary Cap. Those 2 things have a huge “historical” impact.
You can go back to the 70’s now.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Mar 23, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
College is not the NFL
It is not me that can’t get past the scope of the 49ers it is you that cannot get past the scope of the Bears. BTW, what McMahon did is college is completely irrelevant. McMahon was nothing more than a slightly above average QB in the NFL that had a difficult time staying healthy.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 24, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sing just needs to win games...
That’s what a coach is measured on.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Mar 22, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What kind of workouts would they do on the hill?
Mostly just a bunch of running up and down it? Serious question.
by Brendan Scolari on Mar 23, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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