2009 SB Nation Mock Draft: Suggestions requested
by David Fucillo on Mar 25, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
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PrintThe folks over at Mocking the Draft are running our annual NFL mock draft and it's almost time for the 49ers to pick. The pick itself won't be posted until Sunday, but it's time to get some suggestions. I'll be submitting the pick later tonight or early tomorrow (depending on how into the discussion people get).
At this point we've gotten through the Jaguars pick, meaning the Packers will pick and then the 49ers. I'm getting on a plane to head to Las Vegas in a few hours (umm...need to boost Niners Nation revenue!) so I wanted to open this up for discussion for everybody. If you make a suggestion, please offer a little insight and analysis on your pick. It doesn't have to be super involved, but a good comment is likely to end up being quoted in my own analysis for MTD.
Through eight picks the following folks are gone. It's not in this order because I figure I'll keep it a surprise and let you check it out on Mocking the Draft (they've posted the first two picks):
Brian Orakpo
Andre Smith
BJ Raji
Michael Crabtree
Eugene Monroe
Aaron Curry
Matt Stafford
Jason Smith
We're waiting for the Packers pick so I'd suggest posting two names in order of preference. Maybe Everette Brown and Michael Oher are your choices. Or maybe it's vice versa on those two. Maybe you're embedded in the Mark Sanchez camp. Whomever you want, let's hear your options. Once I email the choice I'll close the comments here. Also, I won't announce it until Sunday as that is when Mocking the Draft will be posting the pick.
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I'd go with...
… Brown. I’m torn between Maybin and Oher if Brown gets taken. Maybin is seriously growing on me.
1. Aaron Maybin
2. Everette Brown
A few weeks ago I was against Aaron Maybin because of reports that he played at around 220 last year, which is way too light to play rush OLB in the NFL. So I saw him as a developmental project that would take a few years to grow into his body. However, he was 249 at the combine and 252 at his pro day. While that was much more in line with where he should be, his 40 was not that spectacular (4.88) leading many to conclude that he was not carrying the extra weight well. However, looking more deeply at the numbers it looks like he actually is carrying the weight well. First, he had a 10 yard split of 1.55, better than both Orakpo and Brown and second only to three other linebackers: Clay Matthews (1.49), Lawrence Sidbury (1.53) and Aaron Curry (1.53). Second, he ran 40s of 4.59 and 4.63 at his pro day.
So with those size concerns largely dealt with it goes back to which player is more likely to make an impact. While I love Brown’s spin moves and ability to bend and dip around blockers, most of the scouting services think Maybin has the bigger upside. I agree. He had better numbers than Brown in 2008, and better “explosion” combine numbers (verticle, broad jump, 10 yard split). His arms are also two inches longer, allowing him to make contact with lots of OTs before they can do the same to him.
That said, if Brown was the pick I woud not be disappointed in the least because I think he has a chance to be great as a 3-4 rush OLB as well.
Maybin
I think I’m starting to feel the excitement around this guy. The question is, do we have to take him at 10? Would it be possible to trade down and still get this guy? I like the notion of taking Maybin over Oher, but not over Andre Smith. Since this scenario has Andre off the board, I think Maybin gets in as my number 2 choice.
1. Everette Brown
2. Aaron Maybin
And I’m with Brian Dean on this one, if Brown is off the board, I’d think the Niners would entertain trading down.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 25, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions
i would take
Orakpo over Brown and Maybin. But i wouldnt mind having Brown. I forgot who said it but i think Mike Mayock or Mel Kiper Jr. said that Maybin isn’t a Three down player yet and it would take him like 3 years. for a first round pick i dont like that statement. Orakpo has better size then Brown. Like i said dont mind if we get Orakpo or Brown but im kinda iffy on Maybin
by 49ersAllTheWay on Mar 25, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
In this scenario
Orakpo is taken. But yes, I would want Orakpo over both Brown and Maybin too.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 25, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
My Take
In my opinion this team is 2 or 3 years from making major impact. I’m not talking about about barely sliding in the playoffs and gettin that ass kicked in the wild card game. Therefore my pick is based on that assessment.
The more and more I think about it the more it has to be Maybin. This kid has the most upside of all the OLB except Curry. Is he a 3 down player now-no. I don’t care that he is. If it takes him 2 yrs to get there-so what as long as he’s the best fit for the long haul.
So maybe the team doesnt win as many games with Maybin now instead of taking Brown-so what. Higher draft picks will follow over those 2 years-then watch out.
Maybin vs Brown
It’s your understanding that Maybin has the higher upside, but from what I understand, their upsides really don’t differ that much at all. Maybin may be more physically gifted, but that doesn’t always correlate to potential, does it?
i.e. Alex Smith
If i remember correctly i think niners took smith over rodgers cuz he had “more upside” i hate that word. Take somebody that will make an immediate impact as well as two to three years from now!
by 49ersAllTheWay on Mar 26, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand upside...
… but in the case of a 3-4 OLB, which is one of the more difficult positions to find a talented/consistent player at, why pass on a player who could be good sooner (i.e. more likely to get good, too) for a player who has maybe a LITTLE more upside.
Basically, I just don’t believe that Maybin has SO MUCH MORE upside than Brown to warrant picking him over Brown. They’re pretty close sounding. Brown sounds more disciplined (which sounds more coachable) while Maybin sounds a lot more like a player who more often does whatever he wants (i.e. not as coachable).
Depends on who the pack selects
I think the Pack will snatch up Brown in the mock but if not Brown is the pick. His coverage skill smay not be good enough to take a OLB in the 2nd and see what the returning guys do. Therefore the signing or trade of any right tackle until the draft would leave me to Oher, but if I have made a move in either prior to this trade I take Maclin which will dare any defense on any route to have 8 in the box.
SO my picks are Brown or Maclin
This just in from Maiocco
Talks are heating up between the 49ers and free-agent offensive tackle Marvel Smith, as both sides are getting more excited about the possibilities of a contract agreement.
If Marvel Smith gets signed, that changes things. If the Packers take Brown, which I’m guessing they would in this scenario, then I hope to all that is holy, we’re able to trade outa there and some extra pieces. I really don’t like the idea of Sanchez or Maybin or really anybody else at #11.
Who do we trade with
The Eagles so they can grab Maclin, or Oher?
The Lions so they can jump back up and grab Stafford/Sanchez?
These are the two teams with the likely fire power to acquire our 10th pick.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 25, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
We need a RT who would fit in next to Rachal and Oher or Andre Smith(too bad he’s gone) would fit that role. At that point we would have a solid OL for the future.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Mark Sanchez
years from now we will look back on this and think gee that was a no brainer
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SIngeltary
likes him and he would excel in a run first offense
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controversy
1. Mark Sanchez.
2. Everette Brown
I think mark sanchez is a premiere player. he is better in all ways then alex smith was coming out of college. and now he can actually battle for a number one spot at least. Maybe he’s not an instant impace but i dont think that we bring anyone in and they instntly fll a gap. Look at Balmer who hadnt made a real impact last season.
Everette brown is the concensus choice because of our need for a pass rusher. this is a no brainer if thats what we go for.
maybe oher. hes really good too.
Maybin= overhyped like everyone else from that division with the exception of Vontae Davis.
I think
the Big Ten is taking more criticism than hype this year. Maybin has been questioned, and Malcom Jenkins has been questioned heavily. Not one guy comes to mind of being overhyped from the Big Ten, and if I’m missing someone, let me know. Maybin has as many naysayers as he does yaysayers (is that a term?).
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 25, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
1. Brown (based on what I've read about him, and our needs)
2. Maclin (seems like he would be a number one receiver)
Either one would be appropriate for a #10 pick, with little doubt about their abilities. The other guys seem to have more questions surrounding them, even if they might have more potential upside.
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Simple
Everette Brown is the next best player. 12 sacks a year plus will do a lot for a middle of the pack defense.
If Green Bay takes him at 9, take Oher. Nail down right tackle for the next ten years.
The real problem on the real draft day is, what if they are both gone?
you can't pass up a BJ if one's available
If you had a lineup of 9 Jack Custs who hit(Cust career average) .239 AVG, .382 OBP, and .475 SLG, then your team would score 6.12 runs per game-totalling to 991runs a season.The 08 rangers lead the majors in runs score with 901.
D or O?
1. Brown would be sweet, or Maybin.
2. Or that receiver, what’s his name, Harvin? Maybe that would be a reach, but spreading the opponents’ defenses would be nice. Remember the “nine in the box” season in 2006.
by Bob In Beaverton on Mar 26, 2009 7:43 AM PDT reply actions
Percy Harvin
interesting player, lots of speed but pretty small – I guess you could say the same for DeSean Jackson. Similar skill sets from what I can tell. Probably a late 1st/early second kind of guy, right?
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Trade it away!!!
Since we already know Brady Quinn is up for grabs with the Browns…they just got rid of Kellen Winslow…I say GIve them our #1 and Vernon…Quinn would be a nice one to hand the 49ers QB torch to!
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