NFL Draft 2009: A Closer Look at the Top 10
Lets examine the first nine teams and who they might be interested in taking to better understand where the 49ers stand. What are the odds your favorite guy will be there when San Francisco is on the clock? And where can we expect heavy trade activity?
1. Detroit Lions - I've learned my lesson concerning what NFL teams will do with the #1 overall pick. I personally feel having the leagues worst record entitles you to drafting the best player. Some NFL GMs don't feel that way. They draft quarterbacks. A look around the Bay Area shows us Al Davis and the Raiders opted for the QB (Jamarcus Russell) over the best prospect in the 2007 draft and maybe best WR prospect ever (Calvin Johnson). With our own 49ers in 2005, as much as I wanted otherwise, McNolan wanted a face for the franchise. Lions do the same here, passing on the best player (Aaron Curry) for a QB. Stafford is the soup du jour.
The pick: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
2. St. Louis Rams - There's a few ways this pick could go. Most people tend to feel Aaron Curry is the #1 player in the draft, so he could certainly be the pick. This is also where Michael Crabtree starts to enter the discussion, but there are too many question marks for him here. QB is also a darkhorse here, but with Orlando Pace at the end of a great career, OT has to be the pick.
The pick: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
3. Kansas City - This is a no-brainer pick, if they keep it. You have to be pleased when the best player in the draft falls to you at #3. Curry becomes the Chiefs version of Patrick Willis. There could be some interest in this pick from other teams.
The pick: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest
4. Seattle Seahawks - This is a tough pick to project. The Seahawks hold a lot of cards here. There are a handful of players that are worth taking here, but none really perfectly meet up with their most pressing needs. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle is a hotspot for some trade activity. They could move up to get at Aaron Curry to replace Julian Peterson, or move down and get a target that fits need/value better. If they swap with KC, who could add the 2nd rounder they lack, the Chiefs could take Orakpo to fill their need for a pass rush (and transition to 3-4). Again, Michael Crabtree would have to be a consideration if the Seahawks keep the #4 pick, although they look fine with T.J., Burleson and Branch healthy. Charley Casserly has RB Chris Wells going here due to a conversation with Mora about wanting a strong running game. I'm going to take that "running game" comment from Mora to mean he wants to remain strong up front. Walter Jones is still with the team, but his days are numbered.
The pick: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
5. Cleveland Browns - Michael Crabtree is a consideration again with the rumors of the Browns shopping Braylon Edwards. I can't see that happening unless a deal for Edwards actually goes down prior to draft day. To me, the Browns have to grab a piece for their 3-4 defense. Need meets value here.
The pick: Brian Orakpo, OLB, Texas
Find out who the 49ers are left with after the jump...
6. Cincinnati Bengals - The Bengals coaching staff was in charge of the North squad at the Senior Bowl where B.J. Raji was unblockable all week. If they aren't willing to take him here, then he doesn't belong in the top 10. Other possibilites are OT, with rumors of Cinci trying to unload Levi Jones and, of course, Michael Crabtree deserves a look with the loss of T.J. and Chad Johnson likely close behind him. I think they go with the known quantity here.
The pick: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
7.Oakland Raiders - Michael Crabtree, right? No. For how often Al Davis is projected to take a WR here, it should be noted that the Raiders haven't drafted a WR in the first round since Tim Brown in 1988. If the nutty old curmudgeon passes on a guy like Calvin Johnson, he sure isn't going to take a WR here--speedy or otherwise. He's obligated to protect his investment at QB. I think people aren't giving enough credence to Andre Smith's falling stock. Smith could be the pick here too, but I think Al will go with the more athletic tackle who has a better chance to stay on the blind side. Actually, who the hell knows what Al is gonna do...c'mon Al, I know you've got a curveball for us!
The pick: Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Well, it ends here. That little fluttery thing in the back of your mind that hopes Michael Crabtreee will fall to the 49ers at #10 can be safely swept away. There are just too many teams that will have Crabtree in the mix at their choice. Even if he does start to fall, no way he gets past the Jags at #8, unless there's a miracle shock selection that allows one of the top guys to fall this far. I guess it's concievable that Jacksonville could snag a QB, but highly unlikely.
The pick: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
9. Green Bay Packers - This is obviously where 49er fans will begin to sweat profusely. If you're eying a defensive player, Green Bay will probably break your heart on draft day. The Pack will undoubtedly add some players that fit their switch to the 3-4 defense. But that same need to add specific players may be the reason they don't nab "our" guy. IMO, this is one of the more likely hot spots for trade activity. If a team in the teens is looking for a QB, they will probably identify this as the pick to jump up ahead of a lot of teams, including the 49ers, who might draft a QB. The Packers, on the other hand, could use an extra draft pick or two to help complete their defensive transition. If I had to project one trade on draft day, I'd say Jets move up here to get Mark Sanchez. Sanchez is talented and media savvy and seems like a great fit in NY. Then Green Bay would have 3 picks in the first two rounds to add a rush OLB like Maybin, English, Barwin or Sintim, a big end like Jackson or Gilbert ans maybe even a nose guard. If they do keep the pick, in this scenario, It might sting a little for me as they would probably take my guy.
The pick: Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State
So that leaves the 49ers. Barring trades, or a shake-up like the Wells pick from Casserly's mock, these are the most likely nine to go in front of SF. Yeah, you could swap out Oher for Smith, but it leaves us in the same place, as was the case in the SBN mock over at Mocking The Draft. So I ask you--who do you take here? And if you want out of the 10 slot, how far down or up are you willing to go? Who would you target?
EDIT: Here's link to the draft order and the trade value chart, which was made famous by Jimmy Johnson and tends to be a pretty accurate reference tool, but not set in stone.
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Andre Smith
if he’s there, take him.
Ofcourse, there’s always the possibility of entertaining for a trade, but I don’t think the team would pass on Andre Smith at 10 if he’s available.
That’s who I voted for in the poll, but ultimately, I guess I should’ve picked trade down (but I’m just not sure for what and with whom)
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 30, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions
that
is pretty much a worst case and probably realistic scenario of what is going to happen. So I hope they do there homework on Andre Smith.
Exactly.
Actually, my biggest fear (and somewhat realistic possibility) is that no team in the top 9 take a QB, which leaves the 49ers with even less options. I really hope two teams take a QB, just to free up at least one more extra non-QB player for the 49ers to choose from.
What's the Soup du Jour?
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Mar 30, 2009 9:10 AM PDT reply actions
Thank you boys
I really wanted that to happen
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Mar 30, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez please !!!!
I don’t think we need a QB but there are a lot of teams and draft prognosticators that think we do. Lets keep the perception alive and then maybe that god awful 1 – 9 doesnt happen and we get one of those elite players… Or just pick Robert Ayers who will be a top ten talent that just isn’t talked about enough. ESPN has Ayers ranked a 94 which makes him at least number 10.
The Voters are saying
The 2 weakest positions needed by the Niners. I have FAITH in the Voters ! Smith or Maybin can make an immediate impact. We need players now!
If the Fans are
picking A. Smith 1st., maybe they are not so secure with the ‘Marvel’ Signing. I know I,m not! Although I would be pleased with Maybin.
by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 30, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
How deep are the DBs this draft?
Because we need some, and if this is the scenario that’s going down, I’d say either trade down and accumulate a later 1st and another second, and use that second in the 2nd for a DB. If not, I won’t be opposed to Jenkins. He seems to have a high floor.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
If you trade
How about Baltimore for their 1st (26th) and 2nd (55th) rd. pick for our #10? I really wouldn’t like to trade, but since this conversation has been around awhile, what do you think about Baltimore? Or who would you trade with?
by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 30, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
According to the draft pick...
… value chart (which is pretty dated), Baltimore would have to come up with an addition ~300 or so points in order to make it “fair.” That would mean either a 3rd and 4th (in addition to the 1st and 2nd) or a future 2nd. I don’t think Baltimore would do that.
Trade with Detroit
Detroit has the #20 and #33 picks. Those picks are worth roughly the #10 pick in terms of value. SF could pick up a stud OL and OLB instead of just one w/the tenth pick. Plus, with the depth at OL and OLB the niners could get two guys from the A group instead of just one. Only a handful of teams use a 3-4, and I doubt too many of the tweener LBs needed for the 3-4 will be off the board by the #33 pick (Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, Ayers, Sintim, English — one will still be there) Plus that’d leave us able to pick up a solid WR or OG with the #43 pick.
by knightwxc5000 on Mar 30, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you...
… really think a team that needs as many picks as it can get (Detriot) would give up multiple (fairly) high picks for one #10?
Maybe
If there’s a guy they like and see as a building block who might not be around at 20, they might do it. For example, if they love Sanchez and see him as a QB of the future, but don’t think he will last till 20, they might do it.
I guess it's possible...
… but I just don’t see that happening. That’s basically like giving up two first round picks to move up 10 spots with one pick.
damn it, this is really starting to make me nervous ...
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
on the clock
If Mark Sanchez is still there, I think there would be good opportunity to trade down with a QB hungry team, like either the Jets at 17, or the Bears at 18. According to the draft pick value chart, the #10 pick is worth 1300 points. The #17 & 18 is worth 950 & 900 respectively. The #17 & 18(49,50) in the 2nd round is worth 450 & 400. So, with that said, we definitely swap 1st’s and get their 2nd, and depending on how much they want Sanchez, we may even swindle a 4th or 5th out of the deal. Then at 17, we take the best available player. That might a guy like Percy Harvin, or Maclin, maybe Robert Ayers, Maybin, or Everette Brown will still be there. Heck, Andre Smith might even drop that far, I doubt it though. I really like Percy Harvin here though, He could do so much for this team. 3rd down back, slot receiver, return kicks. A threat to take it to the house every time.
TALKING ABOUT FLEXIBITLY
The closer we get the more I want us to got after Andre Smith. I was big about Orakpo but I know he’s not goin to be there in our pick i say OT 1st round. This years draft is full in talent in position players we need. A question Im askin myself is who would we pick in the 2nd round I know alot ppl would say OLB, but I say wait till the 3rd round, MVP of the D-1 AA Championship game Lawrence Sidbury would be avaible for us why not go after him good pass rusher. Was the fast DE/OLD till Maybin beat em out of it by 0.5 .
At #10
It comes down to Maclin and Maybin. I wan’t no part of Andre Smith and with our line in tact, the need isn’t there to take a risk on a guy who is not going to work to become better. I haven’t been high on Maybin, but he does represent some upside and has shown to the willingness to put the work in. He also has a good motor, which I like. But those things are also true about Connor Barwin, who could be targetted in a trade down. I lean toward Jeremy Maclin, though. His 4.4 40 is blazing, but it still doesn’t do justice to his game speed. And the 49ers haven’t had a dynamic offensive playmaker in so long…it’s time. Sadly, I doubt Maclin is what McSing is looking for.
That said, I’d probably take a trade down. Jets, Bears, Bucs (at 17, 18 ,19 respectively, could look at QB) and Eagles (have two 1st rounders, #21 and 28 to play with) make sense. Say, the Bucs at pick 19, who would absolutely need to move up to get a guy like Sanchez. It would cost Tampa their 1st and next year’s 1st, since they don’t have a 2nd rounder this year. I would take that deal.
If the Jets were to move up to #10 it would cost them their 1st(17) and 2nd(52). I’d take that as well in this scenario.
It comes down to Maclin and Maybin
Barf…I’ll take a Sanchez please.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Mar 31, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
O Line
The perfect play for me would be trading down, possibly with the Jets, picking up their 3rd rounder, and still be able to pick either A. Smith or Oher in the first, then Larry English in the 2nd, and with that extra 3rd. rd pick either a slot receiver or that big running back.
Now with Marvel Smith O Line is not the most pressing need, but in the medium and long term having either Oher or Smith at RT, with Joe Staley, Chilo and Heitmann, would make a very solid O-Line core for years. M. Smith would provide some time for A. Smith or Oher to make their transition into the NFL while any of them would also be an insurance if M. Smith’s back problems return.
If we trade down and neither Oher or A. Smith are available where we pick, then I would have no problem with either Maclin, Maybin, Ayers, or even E. Britton.
BrianDean...
makes a good point regarding teams drafting QB’s over the better players as number 1 overall pick. That’s why I always liked the way the Chargers handled their business when they had the number 1 overall and traded it to the Falcons. They took a gamble, grabbed LT and drafted Brees in the 2nd.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
now we need pass rush
Marvel Smith is just security for us. I think his signing indicates that we are going pass rush first round. Whether it be Orakpo, Raji, Maybin etc we will get one. With an actual starter at RT we can spend our 1st pick on a pass rush. Then we could get an OT 2nd round to develop and take Smith’s spot and Smith could mentor him.
draft
If Detroit doesn’t go QB first we have good trade down partner(assuming one of the two top QB’s as in Sanchez is on still the board).Trading our 10th spot for Detroit’s 20th and 33rd…my picks would go roughly as follows(instant 49er bloggers may recognize my scenario there): (20)Connor Barwin De/OL/TE;(33)Jarron Gilbert DL;(43)Max Unger OL;(74)Austin Collie WR;(111) Rashad Jennings RB;(146)Lydon Murtha OL;(171)Frantz Joseph ILB;(184) Tony Carter CB;(219)Diyral Briggs OLB;(244)Myron Pryor NT-UDFA pickups Greg Micheli QB: Tyler Roehl FB!
Best option... trade down
If Mark Sanchez is still out there, the best option may indeed be trading down. The draft is pretty deep at OT and DE.
Sadly, the only match I see in a trade down scenario is Detroit at 20 and 33 as the previous poster mentioned. The drop-off in available talent from 10 to 16-19 is likely going to be huge this year. The players available at the start of the 2nd round are probably just as good as the ones in the back half of the 1st round.
Given the above trade, here are players I’d like to see drafted at each spot:
20. CB Sean Smith, CB Vontae Davis
33. DE Michael Johnson, WR Hakeem Nicks, WR Kenny Britt, DT Ron Brace
43. OG Herman Johnson, OG Duke Robinson, FS William Moore
I’d take the combo of CB Smith and DE Johnson over either Maybin or Brown alone. Replacing Shawntae Spencer with Sean Smith is addition by subtraction and I still think Michael Johnson has the tools to be the best DE in the draft.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
keep the pick
Keep the tenth pick, and go with Maybin, so there is someone on the defensive side of the ball to compliment Patrick Willis. They got to start putting defensive players around him, so he doesn’t have to do everything by himself. If they wouldn’t of wasted a first round pick on Balmer last year, then maybe they wouldn’t be in this position. There is no reason to get a QB in the first round, since it didn’t turn out a couple of years ago, and the draft is QB rich this year. There is always Chase Daniels, Rhett Bomar, or Nate Davis to take into consideration later on in the draft. It would be dumb to waste a first round pick this year on a QB when Shaun Hill has proven he can win. I say start him, let him play him the whole year and maybe he will take the niners back to the playoffs. Let’s wait till next year and try and get Bradford, Tebow, or McCoy if Hill doesn’t work out. I’d like to see them draft a solid defensive player with the tenth pick, and then try to pick up a solid receiver that will go later on in the draft. Maybe Hakeem Knicks if he is available second round, or wait and pick up Ramses Barden who looks like a sure bet in the nfl.

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