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OT Marvel Smith conference call and the lure of other teams

A few days ago some discussion developed over Vernon Davis's comments that he would "love to play for the Dolphins" (FanShot, FanPost).  There was plenty of discussion about the topic, but I bring it up again due to questions I have in light of Marvel Smith's conference call yesterday.  I've included the entire transcript of the conversation after the jump.

Marvel Smith grew up in East Oakland, and his entire family still lives there.  According to Marvel:

"Everybody’s really excited. I mean it’s crazy how many phone calls I’ve been getting from people I haven’t talked to in years, actually. I grew up in Oakland, so my family was all Raider fans growing up, but now they are all 49er fans now . . ."

"Back [when Smith was growing up] it wasn’t a situation that we rooted for the 49ers. Growing up I wasn’t a 49er fan. I loved some of the players that they had, but I grew up in Oakland so at that time I was an Oakland Raiders fan when I was growing up, but that ended pretty much when I got drafted to the NFL."

For those who read the Sports Guy (or used to read him), you may recall his discussion six years ago about sports fan bigamy.  It got me thinking about the experience of being a professional athlete as well as my own experiences (definitely not one in the same!).

I'd imagine most professional athletes grew up as a fan of a certain team in their particular sport.  Vernon Davis was born in Washington, DC and went to Maryland, so maybe he was a Redskins fan.  Frank Gore grew up in Miami, so maybe he was a Dolphins fan.  We don't really hear about it much more than at draft day (if even that).  However, I've often wondered how athletes handle not being able to play for a team they grew up rooting for as a child.

I'll use my own sports fan experiences as an comparison of sorts.  It's a bit complicated at times, so please bear with me.  As a child I was a Red Sox fan.  I was from Las Vegas, but my dad grew up on the south side of Boston.  However, it turns out I was more of a Wade Boggs fan, because when he left for the Yankees (before they became good), I followed and became a Yankees fan.  Judge away, but those are the facts.  Then, in 2003 I moved out here to San Francisco for a sport management masters program at the University of San Francisco.  During that time I was hired by the Oakland A's for an internship, which eventually led to 4+ years of employment with the team before starting law school.

The first time the Yankees visited the Coliseum in April 2003, I sat on my hands.  I was a Yankees fan working for the A's, and that left me in an unfamiliar and confusing situation.  However, in September 2003, when the Yankees returned, I was only rooting for the A's.  Initially it might have been because they were paying me (not very much at that time).  However, I grew to become a passionate fan of the A's, which I remain today.

I'm a passionate sports fan, but maybe since I didn't have a local childhood MLB team, I was not quite as attached as I thought.  So is this something that makes it a little more difficult for a professional athlete?  Say you grew up a diehard Cowboys fan all the way into college, and are then drafted by the 49ers.  Do you people think there are any problems?  Or does a multi-million dollar contract solve that problem quickly?  Smith stated his Raiders fandom pretty much ended when he was drafted.  So maybe it's the latter. 

Anyways, I thought this was something worth opening up for discussion.  Do you have specific hardcore fan rules you believe fans have to follow?  Does it apply to a professional athlete?  These are the things I wonder when I'm sitting in class bored out of my mind.

Star-divide

T Marvel Smith
Conference Call – 03-30-09
San Francisco 49ers

 

RE: How important was it for you to get back to California?
“That was the main priority.”

RE: Why was that? Why was that important to you at this point in your career?
“Well, if I was going to where I wanted to be, it was definitely going to be on the West Coast. I didn’t want to necessarily go play in the snow somewhere else at the end of my career really.”

RE: Marvel, have you always maintained a home here in the Bay Area?
“I’ve actually lived in Southern California throughout my career. My whole family still lives in Oakland.”

RE: How often do you make it back to Oakland?
“I make it back every year. Normally, during the offseason I come back a few times just to visit family and friends.”

RE: Are you in Santa Clara now? Have you joined the team for the offseason program?
“I won’t actually be reporting until next week. Monday I’ll be there for sure.”

RE: Marvel, what was your family’s reaction to the fact you were signing so close to home?
“Everybody’s really excited. I mean it’s crazy how many phone calls I’ve been getting from people I haven’t talked to in years, actually. I grew up in Oakland, so my family was all Raider fans growing up, but now they are all 49er fans now.”

RE: The Raider fans when you were growing up, what did they think of the Niners in those days?
“Back then it wasn’t a situation that we rooted for the 49ers. Growing up I wasn’t a 49er fan. I loved some of the players that they had, but I grew up in Oakland so at that time I was an Oakland Raiders fan when I was growing up, but that ended pretty much when I got drafted to the NFL.”

RE: Marvel, what part of Oakland are you from?
“I grew up in East Oakland.”

RE: Marvel, give us an update on your back, the condition of your back.
“I’m feeling good. I’ve been working out. I really haven’t taken any time off, really since I had the surgery done during the season. Two weeks after the surgery I was working out and rehab, all that kind of stuff, so I’m pretty much past the rehab stage now. I’m just trying to ease into it instead of doing way too much. I feel like I could do everything without any problems or anything like that. All my workouts and stuff like that have been progressing well. I couldn’t imagine anything going any better than it has been already.”

RE: And what exactly was done in the surgery?
“I had a loose fragment from the disc that they went in and took out. They didn’t touch anything structurally or whatever. Supposedly it’s the most minor procedure you can have done on your back. So I noticed an instant improvement right away, even the same day when I was laying in the hospital.”

RE: So it wasn’t a bulging disk? It was just a fragment of the disk that was disconnected there?
“Yeah, that’s pretty much what it was.”

RE: Do you remember the date of that surgery?
“It was the day before Thanksgiving.”

RE: What was the surgery that you had in December?
“It’s funny because it was the same type of procedure, but it was just on a different side. So it was pretty much the same thing for the most part.”

RE: Do you feel confident then, that you can make it through a full season or the life of this contract and be healthy and play well enough that you can get another contract down the road?
“I don’t have any doubts about that at all. You know football is a contact sport and anybody playing, that is there job to stay healthy and to me it’s almost a blessing in disguise that I’ve been through these situations before because I know how to handle it better now. Last year when I thought I felt good, I didn’t really know because I was going through it for the first time. This time around it’s like night and day because I feel a lot better than I thought I felt last year already.”

RE: You played left tackle the previous few years. How would you feel about going over the right side?
“I don’t have a problem with it at all. Whatever’s best for the team, really. I played right tackle my first three years in the league and I’ve got the whole offseason, really, to get back into the groove of playing on the right side. I don’t really see it being that big of a deal, really.”

RE: What’s your take on this whole 49ers team after visiting and looking around? What do you know about this team? What do you like about it?
“I just can’t wait to get up there and get going with my teammates and all the staff and stuff like that. To me, it’s a real young team that’s on the verge of taking off and being one of the better teams in the league, and I definitely want to be a part of that. Everything it seems like they have set in place is geared towards being a physically dominant team on the field and that’s the exact type of team I love playing for. Just to be out on the field and be physically dominating somebody, not necessarily just beating them or scoring more points, but if you can physically demoralize a team, that’s the type of team I love playing for and that’s the type of team Coach Singletary is getting put together.”

RE: What’s your take on meeting Coach Singletary?
“It’s just as advertised. I’m looking forward to it. To me, he’s the perfect type of coach to play for – somebody who’s played in the NFL and did it at its highest level and he’s been successful as a coach already. It’s hard to find a coach with his qualities for the most part, and I’m looking forward to working with him.”

RE: Before you were signed, there was a lot of talk out here about how the 49ers would use their draft pick at number 10. Certainly offensive tackle was one of the positions that people talked about. Do you care or would you be surprised if the 49ers did take a tackle at number 10? How much will you be watching that?
“Doesn’t matter to me at all. I don’t have any control over any type of decisions like that. To me, competition is great. If it’s something you want bad enough, it’s worth fighting for. The biggest thing is for me to go out there and perform and do the things I know I can do. Outside of that, I don’t worry about anything else.”

RE: You have sort of an unusual pass protection stance. Is that as a result of the back or is that your natural stance?
“No that’s actually nothing to do with the back. I’ve had that stance really… I changed my stance three or four times throughout my career and I’ve pretty much been using that stance for the last five or six years. And it’s worked perfect for me. I remember when I first started doing it a lot of my friends said I looked like I was out there praying because I hold my hands up in front of my face or whatever. It’s perfect for me because I just got to keep my hand up in front of my face and stuff like that because to me pass-blocking is just like boxing. I’ve done a lot of boxing training in the offseason and it started correlating with it and I started using it in my stance. I feel like I’m a lot more explosive out of it.”

RE: Why don’t you think you went back to Pittsburgh?
“That’s the decision they made. The way I see it, they went and won the Super Bowl with the line that they had and it’s a group of young guys that they feel they can build upon. Me personally, I don’t know why they made the decision but, in my mind, the reason I just gave you is the reason why I think they made it. I’m actually glad not to be going back to tell you the truth because I couldn’t see a situation better than the one I have right now.”

RE: You signed a two-year contract, is that correct?
“Yes.”

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this post will be one of three things that turn up in google when you search “Wade Boggs fan” in quotes… :-P

by JoeO on Mar 31, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I am a 49er and A's Fan

Born in 1979 and was raised in Fremont, the Raiders were in LA by the time it was time for me to start really paying attention to sports so my team was the 49ers. To this day I freakin hate the Raiders!! But since I was living in the East Bay, my baseball team was the Oakland A’s. So I always get grief when I say I like one SF team and one Oakland team.

"Chlorophyll?! More like bore-ophyll!"

by SoCal As Fan on Mar 31, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

grief?

I know more A’s-Niners fans than I do A’s-Raiders. Everyone is like that. At least everyone around my age (born in the 80’s) who grew up in the east bay. Except for me of course, Giants-Niners all the way

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Mar 31, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

RE: MLB loyalty

Its hard for me to have loyalty to any team in baseball. 1994 ruined baseball for me, and 2004 drove a dagger into my heart. I was an Expos fan, now I’m a freakin’ Nationals fan, because I cannot and will not jump on a bandwagon.

Same goes for football. When I was old enough to think for myself, and watch football without expressing the opinion of my dad or brother, I became a 49ers fan. 1994 helped, but I was a fan the minute I saw Icky Woods try to shuffle his way to a win in the Super Bowl. My disgust for Icky Woods caused me to love the 49ers. The dismantling of the Broncos sealed the deal. I guess that was jumping on the bandwagon, but I was a kid, and I didn’t like any previous teams. And I’ve been on board ever since.

Marvel Smith’s past is the past. He’s a pro athlete, he has to be a fan of the team he’s on, other wise it won’t work. There is a difference between fan loyalty and professionalism. If you work for a company, and are constantly rooting for the rival company, I’m sure people would get upset. Professional courtesy is a must in my opinion.

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 31, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think you can hold a player's past fandom against them

sure it would be nice if he’d grown up a niners fan, but he didn’t and that’s sure as hell not gonna mean he’s not gonna try his hardest when we play them in the preseason. kudos to him for being honest

by foosball4949 on Mar 31, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

athlete

i think that when you are an athlete you have to be a fan of the team your with so it doesn’t matter what your team was when you were a kid because now you are with a new team and if you root for the other one then that would just be weird.

by 5-0 on Mar 31, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

also

i could piss off your team mates.

by 5-0 on Mar 31, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like

teammates brag to one another about their alma-matters and gloat when their school beats a teammates school. which show that these professionals take pride in the work they’ve accomplished to get to the pros.

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 31, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

There was a story on ESPN about some CBB player from Duke....

I can’t remember his name for the life of me, but his dad played in the NBA for the Bullets, and went to college at UNC. His dad died while the family was on vacation, the kid began playing basketball with a crazy passion, had intense skill, and became one of the top HS players in the nation.

When it came time for him to chose a school for college, he did not go to the team he was rooting for his whole childhood, but where (he thought) he had the best oppertunity to succeed. And now he is a Duke superstar.

Is the same as being drafted by the Rams if you grew up a Niners fan, no. But I think it shows that when it comes down to it, playing is much different from rooting. A team that actually impacts your livelihood would mean a lot more to someone that a team they watched on TV or in person. My father (a HUGE Rams fan) always told me that if I ever played for the Niners (or became an owner/GM/Coach) he would become a Niners fan. Sometimes the ties that bond are more important …

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Mar 31, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

did you know?

Patrick Willis used to be a Cowboys fan when he was a kid. I wonder if he hated the Niners growing up.

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Mar 31, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I remember hearing about a number of Cowboy players that were 49er fans and vice versa. Just about every football player was a fan while a kid and their is 97% chance they aren’t playing on the team they rooted for.

by bignerd on Mar 31, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok...

…so I can see how you can go from being a Yanks fan to an A’s fan due to you being paid and spending a decent amount of time with the organization.

But going from a sawx fan to their heated rivals the Yankees, that just blasphemy. Thats worse than if you started rooting for the raiders today. Worse than going from a UNC fan to Duke.

by good as gold on Mar 31, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

To finish

If Patrick Willis left the Niners and became a Cowboy, would you in turn become a Boy’s fan? I sure hope not, but I kinda got question the fandom.

by good as gold on Mar 31, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

for truth. There’s a lot of posers that I’ve seen recently on this site.

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Mar 31, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

redsox fandom

I was 13 when Boggs signed with the Yankees. At that point the Yankees had finished no better than second place (and a lot of 4th and 5th place finishes) since 1981. Making that switch just didn’t feel like a huge change for me at the time. Obviously now that wouldn’t be the case. And it was fun to needle my dad, a lifetime Redsox fan, about it.

As far as if Willis went to the Cowboys? Not even remotely. When Montana left I didn’t become a Chiefs fan. When Rice left I didn’t become Raiders fan. I’ve been a 49ers fan my whole life, and given some of the down years I’ve been through, I think I’ve earned enough cred.

by David Fucillo on Mar 31, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been through only down years

and I don’t think I deserve any cred for anything. It’s called being a fan…which obviously you don’t know having switched teams three times.

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

teams

Easy there tiger. I grew up in a city without a baseball team, so I didn’t have the built in passion for a specific team.

by David Fucillo on Mar 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Difference in fandom

I guess we have different beliefs then. I’ve always felt that once you’ve got a team thats your team for life. I could understand a kid at 6 changing teams, but for me, 13 means your set. Once again difference in beliefs, I guess.

by good as gold on Apr 1, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah.

I actually can say that I root for the Giants and the Dodgers at the same time.

Well, sort of.

I root for the Giants. But deep down, every year I want the same thing: The Giants to win the west and the Dodgers to win the wild card, potentially setting up an epic playoff showdown that the two clubs haven’t really experienced in my lifetime (or if they did I was too young to remember). Also, I would definitely root for the Dodgers if they were in the World Series facing the Yankees. No team deserves to be hated by anybody outside of New York more than the Yankees on any occasion, ever.

Football wise, my rules have always been simple. You get one team, and one “off-team” in the opposite conference. I don’t have the same desire for a cross-state (or cross-town) showdown in the Super Bowl as I do for the World Series, so I usually end up rooting for the Colts as my off-team. Manning is fun to watch.

Aurilia sounds like a planet out of StarFox.

by Gabafnerhagen on Apr 1, 2009 4:07 AM PDT reply actions  

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