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Re-assessing the 49ers depth chart: Wide Receiver

Prior to free agency, we did a review/preview of the various positions on the 49ers depth chart.  It gave us a chance to review how the 2008 season went for each unit, and also take a brief look at free agency and the draft.  The very first position we did was wide receiver, way back on New Years Eve.  Give much of the recent news and discussion on the site, I thought it was a good time to re-address the position and how the depth chart is being molded this offseason.  We'll have this for most other positions as the offseason moves along.

In looking ahead, it seemed like there was TJ Houshmandzadeh and not much else.  Obviously last night's TO development changed that just a bit.  However, for the purposes of this post, I'm going to go on the assumption that the 49ers do not sign Terrell Owens.  And I actually was already starting this post when TO was released.  Crazy timing.

Now that the 49ers have signed Brandon Jones, I don't imagine they'll make any more significant wide receiver moves before the draft.  Maybe they add a practice squad body, but not much else.  So who does that leave us with?

Isaac Bruce
Josh Morgan
Jason Hill
Brandon Jones
Dominique Zeigler
Arnaz Battle

That doesn't inspire much fear, but the potential is certainly there.  The next move for the team will depend in part on what happens with Isaac Bruce.  Back in late February, Scot McCloughan thought it was 50-50 that Bruce would be back.  More interestingly was that the team needed to add two more good players at the receiver position.

So who does that mean?  They've got Brandon Jones (how many sarcastic comments about whether he's a "good player" will that inspire?), so that leaves room for one more player.  Above, I mentioned that I didn't think they'd make any more significant moves in free agency, but maybe Torry Holt's a possbility now that he's looking to be released?  If Bruce decided to retire, it would make even more sense.

If Bruce sticks around, I think they go the way of the draft and continue to give their version of the triplets (Hill/Morgan/Zeigler) more on the job training.  Signing Torry Holt might be a good short term move, but I think it could actually hurt in the long run.  Holt is on the downside of his career, but he would probably squelch the development of one of the younger guys.  Given another year of development I think the triplets (can I even call them that?) could do just fine.  So consider me a bit on the no side of signing Holt.

The other option, particularly if Bruce returns for one more year, would be grabbing another body through the draft.  Although Crabtree could conceivably fall to us, I'm going to operate under the assumption that the 49ers goes for a more pressing need in the first round.

Two guys who are on my radar are Hakeem Nicks of North Carolina and Brian Robiskie of Ohio State.  The problem with Nicks is that he had a monstrous performance in the Meineke Car Care Bowl (8 receptions, 217 yards, 3 TDs) and followed it up with a solid combine.  A successful Pro Day and Nicks could very well go in the late first round.  Although it might be more prudent to wait on receiver, given the 49ers youth there, if Nicks was around in the second round, it would be very easy to pounce on him.

Real quickly on Robiskie...his dad is Terry Robiskie, former interim head coach of the Redskins is now the wide receivers coach for the Falcons.  That certainly has to be a positive for Robiskie, doesn't it?  I don't know if Robiskie is worth the high second round pick (11th of the round), but he's definitely a talented receiver, put in a position to succeed at the next level.

So, all things considered, if McCloughan isn't sandbagging us on the "two good players" at receiver, who might that second guy be?

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Not to complicate things...

But I’m watching Sportscenter and it has “T.O. in San Fran” listed in the queue of things to come. Obviously there is more to report, but color my interest piqued.

Mixed emotions from me. Its like seeing the hot ex-girlfriend who broke your heart unexpectedly walk into the room.

by Call It The Throw on Mar 5, 2009 9:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We already have a TO...

And he drops as many passes too.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Mar 5, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I assume your talking about VD?

He certainly does drop balls. But there are some differences.

First, VD has never performed to the level of a T.O. He hasn’t even performed to the level of an above-average tight end.

Second, VD has some attitude problems, but hasn’t proven to be quite as cancerous as TO was in his final years in San Fran, Philly, and recently in Dallas. Probably because you have to be respected as a great player before you can gain enough influence to tear a team apart. At least that’s my opinion.

I’m certainly not recommending that we sign TO. Just thought it was an interesting/frightening potential development. And I haven’t heard the details of the report, so this might all be moot.

by Call It The Throw on Mar 5, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a general statement...

VD obviously doesn’t have the career compared to TO. But the attitude may be similar. I seem to recall him getting kicked off of the field by his Head Coach this past season, and we still don’t know what said Head Coach meant on who the “cancers” were on the team after said game.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Mar 5, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very true

VD certainly has TO potential (in terms of attitude) and we have no idea what’s happening in the locker room.

As it is, it might be a moot discussion. Sportscenter decided to skip over the “T.O. in San Fran” story, apparently, so not sure why that was listed as a story to come. I’m hoping there’s nothing to report there.

by Call It The Throw on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PFT "reported"....

That the 49ers have no interest in TO.

I’m really hoping he lands in Oakland.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Mar 5, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was meant to be

Oakland is where once promising careers/bad attitudes go to die.

by Call It The Throw on Mar 5, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sign TO

Doesnt matter what anyone says hes a beast and does not get into legal trouble. Sing can work him or ship him out. The only other team I can see him with would be the Colts.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Mar 5, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, you're forgetting one person in all of this...

His name is Jimmy Raye.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Mar 5, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

acording to NFL Live

just a few minutes ago, literally noone is interested in T.O. Not even our beloved Raiders.

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Mar 5, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody will give him a one year offer..

He still is one of the Elite WR’s in the League. One year with incentives, with an option for another. If he becomes a pain in the arse, then he is cut.

That’s fair enough for Owens.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Mar 5, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You propose signing a guy like Owens (who will more than definitely command a sizable bonus) only to risk having to ship him out and have him affect the cap for years?

by sfgfan on Mar 5, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His $$$ depends on the demand...

Right now, Owens doesn’t need the money. What he needs to do is solidify his shot at Canton, and go out with some respect. Going out this way is bad.

I wonder if SEA would take a shot at him with Knapp in the fold. LOL.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Mar 5, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder

if New England is in the mix?

Imagine Moss, Owens and Welker?

Deeeeesgusting.

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 5, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed..

That a few of the Elite teams like PIT, NE, and IND haven’t said no about Owens yet. I also haven’t read KC’s reaction to TO yet either. I don’t see him in TEN or ATL, but I could be wrong there.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Mar 5, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to see him wiht NE

Because he wants the ball. It’s a little hard to do that when Moss plays opposite you, even if that spread-style offense they play in.

by sfgfan on Mar 5, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But, Brady is boss and Moss hasn’t said peep since joining that team because he knows he’d be in for a locker room beat down if he said anything about Tom.

Owens wouldn’t be able to put that stunt either, and Owens would be smart to keep his mouth shut in New England, like Moss. They could combine for the highest receiving yardage and TDs by a duo in the history of the league. And little man Welker would still be able to find his way to 100 receptions.

Imagine the match-ups trying to cover Moss and Owens? Then add a guy like Welker, and point out that its the damned Tom Brady spreading the ball around. 16-0? Maybe not, but thousands of yards and dozens of TDs? Yes.

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 5, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Moss vs Owens

I think a lot of Moss’ attitude problems had to do with losing. If he felt like he wasn’t getting his all from his teammates (or maybe he felt like his teammates sucked), he would stomp his feet and pout. Winning in New England pretty much remedies that.

Owens on the other hand is just a flat out ball hog. His team can be one of the best teams in the conference and he’s having a great season but still not be getting the ball enough. It’s fine to want the ball, but if your team is winning, what does it matter?

That is why I don’t think Owens would work in NE. I mean, I could be wrong and he will, but I definitely think Moss and Owens are two different kinds of babies.

by sfgfan on Mar 5, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's be honest...

Exactly where has TO “worked out?” And why would anyone think he still could?

by StepUp on Mar 5, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Up and Coming WR's

Let’s start utilizing the talent we have now (morgan,Hill and Zeigler). We’ll never know how good theses kids could be if you don’t play on a full time basis. The new B.J. can play when not hurt and Battle has always been there.Bruce is 50/50 and can be used as a 3rd reciever when neccesary (lose of speed,but good hands). Draft another Rec. in the later rounds because there are more pressing needs on the both sides of the front line. Def. Backs and a QB are also a must. Flat out NO,NO AND NO FOR T.O., (Major Head Case) . Now if we can get V. Davis to keep his head on straight, we could have a great bunch of young TALENT!!!!!

by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 5, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

these

are pretty much my thoughts on the situation as well

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Mar 5, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

about the triplets. But more so about Morgan. Last year with Bryant Johnson hurt and Ike a little nicked up in training camp, Morgan shined and was ready to step into a starting role, until his own nagging hamstring injury set him back. My point is, with a full healthy offseason and, hopefully, training camp, J-Morg can step up and be as good or even better than last year’s potential.

He already showed flashes of it on the field last year with some big catches. Sort of reminds me of Marques Colston. I think he’s gonna be the next break out receiver in the league, much like Colston was.

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Mar 5, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1 for Captain Morgan having a breakout year

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Mar 5, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No TO

TO and VD have nothing in common except for huge egos and a penchant for dropping passes. I’d guess 95% of pro football players have huge egos, and I’d say the similarities end there. VD is still young, still has potential, and he genuinely seems like a good guy. TO is a douche, jerk, etc. To be a Niner fan is to hate TO.

I know WR is a sexy position and all, but why put a much of money into a star until we get someone we feel comfortable throwing it to him? I’m not against spending big money a great WR, but not until we solidify our QB situation.

by Neon on Mar 5, 2009 10:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Henderson

I would have rather had Henderson….. i cant believe he said he had no other offers….

by Qbgetter13 on Mar 5, 2009 10:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

he resigned right?

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Mar 5, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

4 yrs 12million … 6 million fo sho money

by Qbgetter13 on Mar 5, 2009 10:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Holt

Thoughts on signing Torry Holt? If Bruce doesn’t return, he’d be a good replacement. I think he’s only 32 so he’s got to have something left to contribute. He might impede the progress of some of the younger wideouts, but he’d be a solid weapon to add. He’s likely to have plenty of suitors, but if he’s available for a reasonable price he’d be an asset. A mentor to the younger guys and someone who can play WR the right way w/ good hands and correct route running—skills which VD obviously lacks.

by Young_To_Rice on Mar 5, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be opposed to Holt

if Bruce retires.

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Mar 5, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Crabtree

If the Raiders… err.. when the Raiders sign T.O., that potentially crosses Crabtree off of the Raiders draft board at 7.

The Crab in San Fran is looking more and more likely possible as each day passes. Also, Crab being available at 10 is looking almost absolute (if T.O. is a Raiduh), opening up a slew of trade potential out of the 10 spot for the 49ers. I’m getting fired up about it already.

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 5, 2009 12:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Crab

I smell a new nickname

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Mar 5, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they have Crabs...

I think Mr. Formaldehyde still gets a case of the Crabs or an offensive tackle (A Smith fits the mold perfectly) at #7. He’d probably salivate (or leak other bodily fluids) at the thought of TO and Crabs on each side of the field.

by StepUp on Mar 5, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been very vocal in my desire to draft nicks

but I also love Robiskie, much as I did Anthony Gonzalez when he came out of OSU. He’s a hard working , very technically sound WR and those who watched him said that he has a maturity and work ethics years ahead of his age. Even if he isn’t a speed burner he seems like a terrific # 2 possession receiver and I’d love to have him

by foosball4949 on Mar 5, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Incorrect!

If/When Torry Holt is released he will sign with Carolina. He has been talking about playing their for over a year now. There is no way he wants to play for a rebuilding team like the niners.

No way will the niners draft a WR early in the draft. They already have Morgan & Hill and the team is focused on running the ball. They have a running backs coach as O-Cord. If Andre Smith gets to them in the draft, thats the pick. Otherwise Michael Oher. The better question is do the niners want another running back? They should have some options with that 2nd rounder.

by Tits McGee on Mar 5, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hi Tits McGee

Say hello to Chesty LaRue for me.

Also, I agree that Oher or Smith will be the pick. I think the Niners should not be drafting a RB in round 2, its too early. We should wait until round 3 at the earliest, I remember a guy we drafted in round 3 turning out to be pretty good.

Ofcourse, I’m all for Gartrell Johnson in Round 5.

I think we should draft Round 1: OL; Round 2: DL; Round 3: DB; Round 4: OL; Round 5: RB; Round 6: WR; Round 7: QB.

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 5, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

YES

Gartrell in the 5th would be orgasmic!

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Mar 5, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cough, T.O. look at this, Cough

Hope he remembers where he did his best playmaking.

No, I don’t want the team to sign him, I just want him to remember where his highest totals came at (including TDs, which aren’t on the chart).

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 5, 2009 2:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ramses Barden

Get it done Niners Brass!!!!

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Mar 5, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

NINERZBRASSS!

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Mar 6, 2009 8:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

!!!111!!

Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.

by BrianBokake on Mar 6, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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