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Sunday Morning NFL & 49ers Ramblings

Well, aside from the fact that Terrell Owens has signed with the Bills, things are otherwise pretty quiet on the football front.  Accordingly, I thought I'd just put together some ramblings on a variety of football topics.  Feel free to answer any of my questions, or contribute your own ramblings.

The upside to this TO signing is that we can end the TO-to-49ers discussion.  And while the Bills are now improved, we certainly don't have to deal wtih them for the next few years.  Tim Graham had an interesting article about the move and how it's a solid move by the Bills. 

It's a one year deal for $500,000 less than what the Bengals will be paying Laveranues Coles on average.  There are obviously the headaches that TO brings to the table, but I wonder if a 1-year deal might negate some of that?  He's playing for his next contract so maybe they get a walk-year bounce.  I don't know what will happen in subsequent years, but even with a QB like Trent Edwards (whose overall talent remains a bit in question), I think the season works out well for TO.  Enough so that I think they're a playoff contender now.

As for the 49ers, I'm a bit disappointed the 49ers didn't grab Igor Olshansky, but I am definitely intrigued by Demetric Evans.  I don't know if he'll end up starting, but I think he'll give Balmer and Sopoaga a run for their money in training camp.

Ray Willis re-signed with the Seahawks for two more years.  Another guy I wanted to get a crack at, but will just have to deal wtihout.  In relating this to the draft, I've got a question.  If the 49ers don't get a guy like Raji, Brown or Orakpo, we'd be looking at an offensive lineman like Andre Smith or Michael Oher. 

What I wonder is whether you want to pay first round money for a right tackle?  The talk is always about the value of the left tackle, but the 49ers obviously have a need at right tackle.  Personally, I think if you've got the cap space, might as well go for it.  Andre Smith and Michael Oher are definitely the bigger question marks of the first round offensive linemen.  It would certainly be a roll of the dice, particularly given that we already know that they may have some head issues.

I remember when free agency kicked off, there was some discussion of Deuce McAllister.  Aside from recovering from arthroscopic surgery and having one of his car dealerships file for bankruptcy protection, Deuce has not been up to a whole heck of a lot.  I'd imagine that once he gets healthy he'll start talking to teams.  I could see him ending up like Takeo Spikes in that he signs with someone once training camp gets going.

Of course that doesn't mean it'll be in San Francisco.  I could definitely see the 49ers investing in a mid to late round running back to compete with Thomas Clayton and Michael Robinson for playing time.  There are some very solid youngsters worth considering.  Rashad Jennings of Liberty intrigues me, as does Gartrell Johnson of Colorado State.  Speaking of which, we don't have blogs for either team so I'm working on some alternative ways to put together scouting reports on those two guys.

Speaking of scouting reports, anybody here go to Cal Poly or at least see their football games the last?  I ask because I'd love to get a scouting report on Ramses Barden from someone who's actually seen him.  Shoot me an email (ninersnation@gmail.com) if you can so we can get something put together.  I found a Cal Poly blogger but haven't heard back from him yet.

Speaking of scouting reports again, if you go to a football school not represented at SB Nation, and you think the 49ers might look at one of your players, I'd love to get a scouting report from you if you've got a chance.  Again, shoot me an email on that, or leave a comment and I'll get in touch with you.

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Igor signing

I agree with your Igor comment, I liked him coming out of school. I imagine that Manusky had first hand knowledge of what type of player he was on the field and in the locker room and did not like something he saw, or he was asking for to much cash.

by Blazer49ers on Mar 8, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I really do believe a trade will happen with our 10th pick...

Like I have mentioned in previous comments, the last two years the tenth pick has been involved in a trade and the last 7 out of 9 years the 10th, 9th, or 11th have been involved in some sort of trade. I think the 49ers should trade their pick and move into the 20s. From there they can see what’s happening (what positions the runs are happening on) and have their pick from a wider selection of players. Most likely their will be two first tier starting right tackles available, Eben Britton and Jamon Meredith (both can play immediately at RT), and there will also be some top talent at RB with Chris Wells and perhaps Knowshon Moreno. With the way WRs were handled last year it wouldn’t surprise me if Maclin fell as well as Maybin and Jenkins, who both are on very shaky ground. Let me not forget some other quality players like Brian Cushing OLB, D.J. Moore CB, Darrius Heyward-Bey WR, Percy Harvin WR, Peria Jerry DT, and Alphonso Smith CB.

Looking at all those players who may be around for the twentieth pick, It’s hard to make a case that Orakpo, Brown, Oher, Smith, or even Crabtree are for sure better than everyone of those guys listed above.

Next year will be our year! (copyright 2003*, been used each of last five years)

by StrictlyFootball on Mar 8, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would want Orakpo with the10th pick but im also big on Andre Smith.

2nd Round – A Safety Rashad Johnson, Patrick Chung, SS, William Moore, SS, Missouri ,Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan, or Sean Smith,

3rd Round – If Orakpo is not a 49er already we should pick up DE/OLB Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond (6-4 251 4.64. Benchx225: 28. Vertical: 35.) which I believe is more comparable to DeMarcus WareDE (6’4", 251, 4.59). Had the fastest time among DE’s

4th Round RB Rashad Jennings or WR Ramses Barden.

5th QB Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State

6th Round Roy Miller, Texas 6-1, 310 (Combine 40 Time: 4.97. Benchx225: 36), Or Myron Pryor, Kentucky -Alot of players Said Pryor Is strong and is hardest to handle in the SEC.

7th Round Gartrell Johnson of Colorado State

by BIG49ERS_1 on Mar 8, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i like ur draft

besides rhett bomar, wouldnt mind any of these players espically brian orakpo & ramses barden

by 49ersAllTheWay on Mar 8, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th Round - Jennings

I doubt he’ll slip out of the third round, and I think he’ll be taken in the second round by a team.

I also think we’d need to grab Gartrell in the 5th, because he won’t make it to the seventh.

by Andrew Davidson on Mar 8, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my 1st/2nd round predictions

1st round – Micheal Oher
2nd round – Jarron Gilbert
i’m turning off the tv and going outside after the the 49ers pick in the 2nd

they are not picking a safety in the 2nd round – Goldson will start for better or worse.

by save10 on Mar 8, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so HOW BOUT THIS IDEA?

ROY WILLIAMS. Safety. niners answer at this position. play deep and on the rover position close to the line.

hard hitter, good attitude. lets sign him. please.

by arsnp on Mar 8, 2009 9:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about no?

Unfortunately for him, there is more to football than hitting people hard and he just isn’t good at those other things.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Mar 9, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Cal Poly

I’m from SLO so I keep up with Mustang Football. Ramses Barden is the most highly touted prospect coming out of 1-AA or whatever they call it now, I’d love to see the niners take a chance on him in the 4th if he’s still around. He’s not the fastest, but he run’s good routes and has good hands. Not to mention he is 6’6", so he is the kind of guy you could throw a jump ball to in the corner of the endzone. Granted I’m biased because its my hometown team, but they have sent a few guys to the NFL, including Chris Gocong, who is a starting DE for the Eagles. Either way, I can’t wait for the draft!(I know baseball is starting, but the Giants are going to set a record for most games lost 1-0 and don’t even get me started on the Warriors.)

by Pearlsofwisdom on Mar 9, 2009 12:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I went to Cal Poly SLO

And watched the early years of Barden. The guy was impressive but he was playing FCS football and at 6’6" most the corners and DB he was playing against were giving up like 10" and probably close to 50lbs. I’d be nervous that his success was largely due to him simply being almost DE sized, for FCS football, and not his ability to play WR. That said, I didn’t see his last couple years so I don’t know how he matured.

BTW, Cocong plays OLB for the Eagles, not DE.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Mar 9, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DRAFT SELECTION

THE NINER HAVE SEVEN PICKS PLUS TWO SUPPLEMENTALS. THEY DON’T NEED TO DROP DOWN . IT’S BEEN A REAL HARD QUESTION FOR EVERYONE AS TO WHO DO WE DRAFT AS #1? A RIGHT TACKLE, PASS RUSHER, DEF. BACK OR A QB? WITH A STRONG GROUP OF OFFENSIVE PLAYERS, DO WE GO FOR THE BEST LINEMAN AVAILABLE OR DO WE GO WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT (QB)? SOME OF THE QUESTIONS COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED IF WE HAD SIGNED QUALITY PLAYERS IN THE FA MARKET. LIKE OFFENSIVE LINE AND DEF. BACKS. THEN WE COULD HAVE STARTED TO STACK ROOKIES FOR THE FUTURE. BASE ON WHAT THE NINERS HAVE DONE SO FAR, THESES ROOKIES WILL BE FORCED TO PERFORM RIGHT NOW AND AS WE ALL KNOW,THAT DOESN’T ALWAY WORK. NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE PATRICK WILLIS!! I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE SELECTIONS WILL BE GOOD AND NOT THROWAWAYS.

by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 9, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

Can you please stop with the ALL CAPS thing?

And secondly, the reason why people want to move down is because some believe it’s possible to get a quality DE/OLB or RT later in the first round, which would provide the team with an extra pick. I’m not for or against trading down, as long as the value is good and they’re not passing up on someone who can definitely improve the current product. Until draft day, though, no one can really know for sure if the team should trade down or not.

by sfgfan on Mar 9, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 things abouts caps

#1, the niners haven’t use it and #2, I didn’t know that caps insulted you. one thing you did say right,was that no one knows for sure about trading down or not. why are you even talking about it! give up a #10 pick?

by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 9, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Trading down...

I brought it up because you mentioned it first, outright saying the team doesn’t need to drop down, while I just said I’d be open to it.

As for the CAPS thing, it’s not that it’s offensive. It’s hard to read, and people have asked you 1354326 times on the site to stop, not just me. If you want your opinion to be understood (and even respected), it has to first and foremost be readable.

by sfgfan on Mar 10, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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