Golden Nuggets: Trading out of the tenth spot?

by James Brady on Apr 16, 2009 4:30 AM PDT in 49ers Links

Morning, morning! James here with your Nuggets! Yesterday I had a good amount of articles for you to read, though today is looking like its going to be exactly the opposite of that. I'm going to spend some extra time looking though, because I honestly feel... bad when I leave you with only one or two links, I mean, I'm not sure how many people read the Nuggets every day, but I sure do try! Of note today is an article about Mayock, suggesting that just about every team wants to trade out of the top ten. That's surprising, I mean, looking at the talent I feel like its an overstatement, but at the same time, there's really only one player or so who I feel would be worth a top ten contract in this years draft. Interesting, to say the least.

Mayock: Every team in the top ten is looking to trade out of it. (PressDemocrat.com)

Isaac Bruce is up for a community award. (49ers.com)

Here's an updated list of free agents as it stands now. (ProFootballCentral.com)

Ask A Player: Shaun Hill. I love this guy. (49ers.com)

The 49ers and Raiders both are up against the best of their divisions opening day. (SacBee.com)

So do you think Alex Smith was overrated as the number one draft pick? Or did he fail (up to this point) because of the scenario? (ContraCostaTimes.com)

A look at the effects (if any) of having many early morning games for the west coast teams. (ESPN.com)

Anyone care to harass Mayock about the upcoming draft? Get your questions in quickly. (NFL.com)

So three out of four of these guys have us taking Mark Sanchez. They'd best be wrong. Wouldn't mind the fourth guy being wrong as well. (NFL.com)

More thoughts on trading out of the tenth pick. (BleacherReport.com)

So who was better, Young or Montana? I haven't read this article, mostly because it has statistics that aren't Danny's! So I wont read it. That being said, you might find it interesting. Though I daresay anyone who picks Young is.. well, special. (BleacherReport.com)

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With golden nuggets. I liked the article, further perplexes me as to what we should do on draft day. I’ve been a proponent of trading down, aside from salary issues. I like the idea of Vontae Davis playing with older bro- could help both of them (could hurt both too). Though even if it’s not tops on our need list- I can’t get over how good and nasty we’d be at LB if we traded up to get Aaron Curry. He and P-Will would catapult our defense to the tops in the league for years to come.

In the end- In coach Singletary I trust- whatever happens happens. All this build-up is tiring me out, let’s just have the draft already.

On a side note, does anyone else feel we acquired the wrong young WR from Tennessee and would have rather got Lovelle Hawkins?- I still think he’s gonna be an impressive pro.

by bonbrillio on Apr 16, 2009 7:34 AM PDT reply actions

For those Smith lovers out there.....

It’s a combination of both. First off, Alex came from that college offense everyone loves nowadays, the “SPread” where he was able to put up good numbers against a couple pretty good teams. Yet, Since the shotgun is only run by a few teams in the NFL, he was doomed to fail as so many people on this site have noted.

Secondly, the organization has done him no favors by allowing itself to be raided like a Carribiean Coast town. Every year, another team has come along and snapped up an O coordinator from us, just when Alex was getting the finer points of the system.

Everyone thinks that Martz was an idiot as on O coordinator. However, I think that his system is just a little more complex than 1 season of playing in allows for. All o fthe great teams that have had awsome offenses, have been together for at least a couple yeears, before they really start to click well. Indy, the Pats, the Giants, the Chargers, all have been together for a while so that every player knows their role and maybe one other. Yet, here in the Nation, we have been spoiled with “Microwave” victories. Well, if team “A” can do it in 1 season, why not us? Because that’s not the way to build a consistant winner. So, as far as I’m concerned, I think Alex needs to take a powder. Not that I have a hatred of the men, (Anyone who has read any of my columns about Smith might say I can’t stand him) but, I think a change of sceanery might do him and the team some good.

I believe both parties are both responsble. And therefore, both share a burdon af blame. It’s not that I think Alex should leave to be mean. But, he should leave to relive some of the expectations of being considered the Niners burdon. Resurrect his career in another teams colors, and let the Niners move forward.

K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr

by DarkkStarr1 on Apr 16, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions

Secondly, the organization has done him no favors by allowing itself to be raided like a Carribiean Coast town. Every year, another team has come along and snapped up an O coordinator from us, just when Alex was getting the finer points of the system.

And the 49ers could have controlled this situation… how? The best they could have done was create a line of succession, however, there can’t be a really strong line of succession only one or two years into your regime.

While I agree that Alex Smith’s failure up until this point is equal parts him and the circumstances, it’s almost impossible to blame specifically the team or Smith in all of this. It’s been known, supposedly, that Smith is a QB who needs time to stay in one system and master it before he can unlock whatever potential he has. I know that’s not a luxury that always exists in the NFL, but he got the absolute worst-case scenario of all scenarios: he had a new system (or at least a coordinator) every year. As for the 49ers coordinator issues, they can’t prevent these guys from leaving. They reportedly threw ridiculous money to Turner (at least it was probably ridiculous for a coordinator) to try to keep him in SF and it didn’t do a thing. As I mentioned above, the only thing the team could have done was build a line of succession, but that is EXTREMELY difficult to do when your regime took over a 2-14 team and you already need a successor one or two years later.

by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions

If you install an offense in Year #1...

You should be running it in Year #3. The problem wasn’t so much the revolving door at OC, but changing the philosophy every season.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Apr 16, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Changing systems...

… that’s what happens when you don’t have a chain of succession in place. Yes, they could have gone out and found someone who could have continued the west coast offense, but Turner was a VERY viable offensive coordinator, even if he forced a system change. Who honestly could have thought that Turner would become a head coach again two years after the Raiders fiasco (which is how long he originally signed for), let alone finding a head coaching gig one year removed?

I’m not saying the 49ers are completely off the hook here. I’m just saying that there were some utterly unexpected circumstances. The fact that Turner left so late in the offseason didn’t help the 49ers out any, either.

by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions