49ers extend Parys Haralson and Joe Nedney
by Fooch on Apr 16, 2009 10:38 AM PDT
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Big news just came down. The 49ers have signed OLB Parys Haralson and K Joe Nedney to contract extensions. Haralson signed a 4-year extension through 2013 and Nedney signed a 2-year extension through 2011. No word on dollar figures yet. Maiocco is reporting that the Haralson deal is a reported $15 million deal that includes $6.5M in guaranteed money
I have to say that I'm quite excited about extending Haralson. He really started to break through last season and with some more consistent playing time, I don't see why he can't break through to double digit sacks. And Joe Nedney? Well, he's been money for the 49ers so I'm pleased the kicker position will be solid for the next few years.
Now that Haralson is locked up, will this affect the 49ers draft strategy? Do you go with an outside linebacker in the first round now that you've locked up your two starters? Maybe, maybe not, but it's definitely something to consider.
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Now that
we have our lb core locked up we must go OT. unless of course we can trade down and get some extra draft picks to fill our needs. Drafting a lb would be usless cuz it would hamper our already existing corps just like a wr would.
by june8thjrat on Apr 16, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Locked up?
Not even remotely close. If I’m not mistaken, Manny Lawson hasn’t shown a whole lot of anything (especially pass rushing ability) and his contract should be up after this season. That means the 49ers are DEFINITELY on the market for another OLB, still. They have a stop-gap solution for RT (M.Smith/Snyder/Sims) that is under contract beyond the coming season. They don’t have that at OLB.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he signed
a 5 year deal, which would mean he still has ‘09 and ’10. Like you said below, I like him too. And I hope he turns it around this season. And although I’ve been against an OLB with the 10, if we can get a D.Ware type player, I guess that would have a huge impact on the team.
by Sebaz49 on Apr 16, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haralson
I think Haralson is a poor man’s D Ware
49ers WILL make the playoffs this year.
by iaalexeeff on Apr 16, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Five year deal.
If that’s true, then the need may not be as great. I still don’t think Lawson allows you to pass on a supposedly polished pass rusher like Brown, though.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with what sfgfan had said before… If there’s an OLB there that you really like, you can’t pass on him because of Lawson. Personally, I still wouldn’t pass on him because of Haralson either.
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by JRPhillips on Apr 16, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lawson
Will break out this year after not playing in Nolans make shift defense. Haralson will also excel and add to his sack total. The niners obviously see something in him. (Not that that means to much). But maybe it means something.
by june8thjrat on Apr 16, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Break out?
Please don’t say this unless you have psychic powers. People have been predicting breakout for Lawson for years now. Yes he had one bad luck year, but the simple fact of the matter is this: Haralson, in A LOT LESS opportunities, has shown a lot more ability to get to the QB. Lawson, who’s had a lot more opportunities on the field, has shown very little of that. On top of it all, Lawson got taken out on passing downs last year in favor of… wait for it… Takeo Spikes. That should pretty much imply, at least for last season, Lawson had very little value in coverage as well.
I totally understand that people like Lawson. He’s one of my favorite 49ers, and I’m definitely hoping he turns it around to at least become a poor man’s Julian Peterson). However, if the 49ers really like Brown or Orakpo, and they’re there at #10 (which is possible), the 49ers should definitely take them. A right tackle is simply not a top 10 pick.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're drafting for need, which may or may not actually be there.
At # 10 the 49ers are going to draft for BPA and depending on their list it could be Sanchez, Orakpo, Brown, A Smith, whomever drops to us. So if it is those four, which I doubt, then they will take the one they feel is the BPA. One thing I have discovered is that their list is probably a bit different than any of ours.
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by Eastbayjim on Apr 16, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haralson said in Maiocco's article
I know Manny can pass-rush. I saw Manny pass-rush in college. Manny was one of the premier pass-rushers in college," Haralson said. "Manny is coming off last season and coming off an injury, and it’s hard to come back off of that. I have all the confidence in the world in Manny Lawson. I know what he can do. And the people around here know what he can do. Manny has that long frame and he’s as fast as a deer. He’s a great pass rusher, to me. I know he can pass rush.
49ers WILL make the playoffs this year.
by iaalexeeff on Apr 16, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
College...
… college…. college. IF every defensive end in college that could pass rush could pass rush in the NFL, then NFL teams wouldn’t be taking so many of them year in and year out and failing.
Also, when does being fast as a deer have anything to do with being a pass rusher? Until he shows it on gameday, no one can really think he is anything other than a possibly decent cover OLB that isn’t living up to what a 3-4 OLB should be.
Of course his teammate is going to say nice things about him. What is he going to do, throw him under the bus? Maybe if Haralson were like T.O., but he’s never shown any inkling of such.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mario Williams
was a big reason Manny could pass rush in college.
I thought Manny showed great promise in his rookie year. His speed and coverage abilities were surprising. The way he transitioned from an End in college to an OLB in the pros was seemingly smooth (in terms of adapting to what an OLB has to do other than pass rush).
Let’s hope all the talk and hype surround Manny’s ability comes to fruition this season. If he’s got the backing of his teammates and coaching staff, only injury can hold back his opportunity. If Haralson and Lawson are both in on 3rd downs, it could give offenses fits when both pressure from the edges. Could.
I hope he does something positive this season, like drive up his trade value at the very least.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 17, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All hail Orakpo!
We should go after Orakpo. He has what it takes to make plays and change the momentum of a game. I’ve had the opportunity to watch him on TV and in person many times, and I was very, very impressed. He is a monster. After we nab him, I’d like to see us go with a WR, RB, or O-Lineman (in that order).
by henrybuehrle on Apr 16, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good moves
What a quietly efficient and responsible offseason we’ve had. I understand where those who were clamoring for more / bigger moves are coming from, but personally I think these kind of small, forward-facing moves are what good teams do every year. Nothing flashy yet some great building for the future. I’m excited to have both these guys for the next few years.
by Neon on Apr 16, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This.
I’ve been pretty happy with the 49ers offseason, too. I don’t think any of the available big name free agents really would have made an impact on this team, except Haynesworth. The 49ers never really had a shot at Haynesworth, though.
Quiet isn’t always bad, and I think in this offseason’s case, that is definitely true.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hooray!
Nedney has been as solid as a kicker can be for the Niners, nailing several game winners like it’s practice so it’s nice to see him back for more years to come and hopefully even more game winners.
Even with the extension of Haralson, they have to take a top DE/DT/LB if he’s available at 10 because their QB pressure has been weak and the ability to get to Hasselbeck, Warner and Bulger is important since they can throw well but have stone feet.
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 16, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
is it too soon to
extend Willis for the next 10 years?
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by 49erLou on Apr 16, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
49 years!
49ers WILL make the playoffs this year.
by iaalexeeff on Apr 16, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
109 years!
Wait, wrong blog.
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by cornball on Apr 16, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, will they extend Bass or will OG be a high priority for them in this draft.
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by Eastbayjim on Apr 16, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OG
That is the next logical move, but I can’t figure out what the team thinks of Baas. Baas was a 2nd-rounder and he only cracked the starting lineup last year. I’d sure prefer if he was signed longer term, though, because drafting O-Line talent has been a never-ending process over the last 5 years. How about improving at the skill positions, hey?
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by grantmp on Apr 16, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
… Maiocco “hinted” at the beginning of the offseason that Baas was on a short list of in-house players the 49ers were looking to extend. Haralson was also a part of said list. I really hope Baas is extended, though, as I think he’s finally starting to show he can be a very capable guard.
The only problem with extending Baas is that the 49ers perceived value of him is probably of a solid guard who can step in and start if needed. I don’t know if Baas would really want to commit a salary that would commensurate that or if he would rather wait and test the market.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
He would want to come back. From what I have seen on various videos on 49ers.com is that he is a kinda quiet. I don’t think he someone who only wants lots of money so he wouldn’t mind staying here rather than test the market
49ers WILL make the playoffs this year.
by iaalexeeff on Apr 16, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not about...
… wanting a lot of money. Considering he’s kind of a “middle of the road” kind of guard right now (as he definitely hasn’t shown to be in any of the top tiers of guards), his next multi-year deal may be his last multi-year deal. A multi-year deal is the best way to get security for the rest of your life. With the joke that is the NFL alumni support system, a player has to definitely look to take in enough money to possibly deal with any future medical issues he may have, especially in linemen.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may hurt everyone's feeling a bit
but I felt letting Justin Smiley walk was the wrong move. I’d rather have Smiley than Baas. In other words, I hope they don’t extend Baas. I hope he plays well, I just don’t think he should be extended. If he has an outstanding season, and we have to pay a bit more to keep him around, that’s a risk I’d be ok to see the 49ers take.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 17, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I understand...
… the reason why the 49ers let Smiley go was because Baas was a better fit for the “mauling” running attack the 49ers were/are supposed to have. Not that that’s the way it worked out, but I think that was a big part of their thinking.
by sfgfan on Apr 17, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love me some Nedney son!
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by LADubbz45 on Apr 16, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot of LBs and WRs
In the previous administration, linebackers were definitely Nolan’s favorite (right up there with DBs and WRs). I can’t help but think Singletary should let those guys develop and go after big needs like a possible new QB and a tackle. However, I realize the 49ers “needs” and “wants” don’t necessarily match up with their fans — ever. So in the inverse, they may be looking at another defensive back to possibly replace Walt Harris, another linebacker for fun’s sake and and offensive guard at the No. 10 spot just to piss me off. I’m preparing for April 25th frustration.
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by addisports on Apr 16, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How...
… do you gather that linebackers were Nolan’s favorite? The only high pick spent on one was Willis. Any other draft pick that is a LB was a later pick (Haralson, J.Moore). One high draft pick in four drafts, and that equates to favorite?
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget the signing of Takeo Spikes and Ahmad Brooks. He shuffled that lineup quite a bit in his tenure. Also, the seventh round draft pick of Larry Grant (now with St. Louis). And I wouldn’t argue high pick over low pick because any can make an impact. Stories go one for days about low-round picks becoming stars. But I digress, besides DBs, there was no bigger group of players to move in and out of Santa Clara.
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by addisports on Apr 16, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still disagree.
I think a group with more shuffling would probably be the offensive line or maybe even the defensive line.
The only reason I argue high versus low is the amount invested in the player. Yes, a lower round pick can make an impact, but if they fail to, they don’t really hurt the team in any significant way. A higher pick, however, is how a team gets hurt. With that said, under Nolan, the 49ers have taken the following offensive linemen with first, second, or third round picks: Baas, Snyder, Staley, and Rachal. Factor in the veterans they’ve signed as placeholders or players who had high reward, low risks (which you’re obviously including if you are including Spikes and Brooks), and I’d say there was a lot of shuffling on the offensive line.
by sfgfan on Apr 16, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WR
I don’t know, I guess I want to see a bunch of names on my Madden ‘10 list at WR or something. It just seems to me like we have a whole lot of mediocre. Getting a 1st round WR won’t stunt the development of who we have now, IMO. Add a Crabtree (god willing) to the list and let them duke it out for starting roles. I don’t see any QB that I would salivate over (Sanchez is not top 10 material, in my opinion). It almost seems like we’re getting to the point that we need to trade down, or just take the top talent available at 10, regardless of position. Could we use a Tackle? yes. WR? yes. DL? yes OLB? yes. QB?……meh….nah.
by Arkie49er on Apr 17, 2009 6:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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