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The 2009 49ers Schedule: A Very Early Discussion Pt. I

When the 2009 schedule came out, my office was abuzz with excitement. It was the first real, league wide NFL news to come out in a long time, and it gave every fan an opportunity to speculate about their team's chances next season. The casual discussion on the schedules is fun to listen to from the other side of a cube, and it has been fun to read on the Niners Nation board as well.

That got those wheels turning in my head, and gave me an idea to try out here. Fooch and I got together via gchat (Google Mail's version of instant messaging) and decided to discuss on a week by week basis each matchup. While these games are five months or more away from now, it is good to gauge our chances now, and at specific intervals during the off season. Also, we thought it would be more interesting to have two people bouncing ideas off each other about these matchups, instead of one person's ranting, raving thoughts.

So what follows is our chat (with only a slight bit of typo and punctuation editing) containing our thoughts on the matchup, and a prediction. We divided the discussion into 4 parts, each containing four games, to make it easy on the eyes for you guys.

Fooch: For the fourth straight season we open against the Cardinals. I was speaking with Charles Golden of Revenge of the Birds (Cards blog) and it definitely seems like the NFL is trying to force this rivalry...

ProfessorBigelow: But that's not to say that there isn't a rivalry building here. We lost by 2 yards on Monday Night Football last year to them, we have had high scoring slug-fests in seasons past. And what better way to deliver a statement to the league (if we are the improved Niners team that we think we are) than to knock off the NFC Champions from last season, in their house week 1?

Fooch: I agree that the rivalry is definitely building... Even in games where we've lost by double digits, the games have been quite competitive. Although I don't think it would be shocking to win at AZ to start the season, I think the pundits would peg as a pretty big upset. I don't know if it will make or break the season, but that kind of road win is must-win for a team wanting to take "the next step." Would you agree?

ProfessorBigelow: Completely. It is definitely a winnable game, from the 49ers perspective. The Cardinals were not the dominant team everyone watched in the playoffs during the regular season. The playoffs could have been, for lack of a better word, a fluke. Plus there is a possibility that Boldin is not there anymore, removing a massive threat that has hurt us in the past. Add a potential rookie starting RB, and I think our D matches up better than in previous seasons

If I had to decide now, I believe the Singletary era begins with a bang, and a strong message to the NFL: The 49ers are here to compete. Niners win week 1.

Fooch: I keep telling myself that the season will start with a bang. Although the Singletary era technically started last season, I consider this first game the true kick-off to it. I think there's a decent chance you get the carry-over of a new coach that inspires the team. The question becomes whether that will work out long-term. This game won't fully answer that question, but I think it's just as important for where we're going with Singletary, as it is for playoff implications. I'll go with a W though...my confidence definitely increases with a Boldin trade. I think we wouldn't be good fans if we didn't think a win was possible in that kind of opener.

ProfessorBigelow: True, True. Eternally optimistic i guess

Fooch: Yea...I've always posted that I'm an optimistic realist... But it seems safe to say we agree on 1-0

After the jump, weeks 2, 3 and 4 of the Fooch-Bigelow 2009 49ers schedule caucus.

Star-divide

ProfessorBigelow: Good. Moving on to week 2: the home opener, and a back to back division match up, this week against the Seahawks. Call me crazy, but I feel that we won't be able to walk all over the Seahawks this season, like many people think we will. In last season's matchups, Seattle was a few catches (read: competent WR's) away from taking the week 2 game away from us last season, and we did get rocked six weeks later. TJ Housamizzillla changes the dynamics of that team, and who knows, if certain things happen, we could be the second team to play against Marc Sanchez at the helm of the hawks.

Fooch: I definitely agree that the Seahawks won't be a push-over, IF they stay healthy. If Hasselbeck gets hurt again they'll have some problems (thus possible reason to go with a QB in the draft?) Given that they beat us with Seneca Freakin' Wallace, I definitely think they'll be tough.

ProfessorBigelow: HA

Fooch: One thing I find interesting is that both Seattle games are bookended by the cardinals... Coincidence?

ProfessorBigelow: I THINK NOT!! Ok.. Too much caps action there... The optimist 49ers fan in me says: there is no way they can lose the home opener vs the seahawks.

Fooch: BUT? :)

ProfessorBigelow: But...... the 49ers have made me slam my head into a wall plenty of times, keeping us at a middle of the road or worse level in the NFL because of dumb, dumb, dumb plays and seemingly random breakdowns in team structure. Plus, we barely beat them last season. Granted, they played us during the Nolan era, and have never seen a Singletary-led Niners team.... In the end, we match up well, we all know Jim Mora Jr. is no head coach, and our new head coach should trump their new head coach. But if they blow it, I'm not surprised. My Pick: 2-0 in the division after week 2.

Fooch: Before I get to my prediction, speaking of Jim Mora Jr... I remember being disappointed when he left for the ATL. I kinda wanted him to eventually become head coach.

ProfessorBigelow: Ill admit it, same. Then I watched him run the falcons

Fooch: True. But as far as a prediction, I think 49ers fans should expect a win there, even though things could go in the tank. They got whupped at home by a crappy Seattle team and that's somewhat fresh in my mind. However, I just think the 49ers have more talent. I remain less than convinced about their running game and they need more than Houshmandzadeh. I see 2-0 as well.

ProfessorBigelow: Alright... Week 3, what I see as the first REAL challenge of the season, at Minnesota for a battle with the Viqueens (LOLZ SEE WHAT I DID THERE??)

Fooch: you're a clever individual :)

ProfessorBigelow: I try I try...

Fooch: This is a very tough game to call.... On the one hand Adrian Peterson is a monster (who did happen to be shut down the last time he faced SF). On the other hand, Gus Frerotte and Tarvaris Jackson suck. Because of that I think the Vikings are probably one of the hardest teams to assess in terms of predictions... They've got some serious defensive abilities....but how much makes up for the crap-tastic QBs they roll out?

ProfessorBigelow: There are two things that you can set your watch to in the NFL:

1) The Redskins will make CRAZY MOVES during the off season, be favored to go far in the playoffs and in the end will not do anything and fizzle out.

2) The Vikings, no mater how good they look, will choke badly at some point in time during the season.

My only worry, is that this is not where it will be. Their D is dirty, and AP is always a threat, whether from the backfield or catching in the flat. But, if we get a good pass rush on them (thanks to draft picks??) we could turn their offense into a 1 dimensional team. Also, we could be facing them at the perfect time: the Williams boys could be in the midst of a 4 game suspension from the league offices (see: StarCaps), allowing Gore to run wild on a depleted D line.

Fooch: This is a game I really want to pick as a win. At this point I don't think I can pull the McNolan trigger on it. However, if they can pull off the road win, I think they're going to the playoffs. I honestly think you could flip a coin with this game.

ProfessorBigelow: It all depends on which 49ers team, and which Minnesota team, shows up that week.

Fooch: The question I have with Singletary is whether we'll see some more consistency...meaning no home blowout losses to bad Seattle teams... And I think right now we really don't know... Heading into last season you could probably make some reasonable predictions based on Nolan's past. We really don't know much about Singletary in that regard yet. Which is kind of nice, and yet kind of scary at the same time.

ProfessorBigelow: Inconsistency?? With the niners??? Unheard of!! (/sarcasm)

Fooch: I know...I know....SHOCKING

ProfessorBigelow: If I'm making a pick, I say the high from winning back to back division games, the fact that arguably the two best players on the Minnesota D could be watching the game on tv, plus the fact that Shaun Hill is a more reliable starter than Sage Rosenfels, or Tarvaris Jackson , or Gus Frerotte (post-chat edit: less likely to blow it than those three), puts this one in the win column. 3-0 baby.

Fooch: I like where your heart is at. As I said, this is a tough one to call, but I'm gonna go the other way and call it a loss...2-1 :(

I think moving on to week 4 should bring some consensus...vs rams?

ProfessorBigelow: Just like last season, we begin with multiple games within the division.

Fooch: Those three games are HUGE this season...yet again. You start 3-0 in the division, that's big time.

ProfessorBigelow: It puts you in amazing position for the rest of the season. While I said before that I thought the Seahawks could threaten us, I can't see a threat coming from the Rams. Bulger is on the down and down, they have less WR's than the Seahawks did last year (With no clear number one, or number two for that matter), their D is in shambles (save for one CB) and they have new head coach who will be struggling to get his system in place and learn how to be a HC. Our rookie HC has already had training in that regard.

Fooch: I definitely agree on the Rams. Maybe they start turning things around, but I just can't see the 49ers losing to them at home. Maybe they add Jason Smith to the OL, but it's not enough for an immediate turnaround...at least in my opinion. If the 49ers start out 2-1 or 3-0, this is a statement game

ProfessorBigelow: Agreed, this is where the Niners should win by 20 or 30, to show the league they are for real. Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner, 4-0 my friend.

Fooch: I'm at 3-1....if they're 4-0, the league is definitely talking...although I think more of that would come if they won at Minnesota (since this is the Rams after all)...

 

That's all for now, the next four week (what could be the hardest four weeks in the schedule) to come shortly. Leave questions, comments, concerns and criticisms below, we will try to respond to what we can.

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Interesting...

… approach. Definitely fun use of the multiple writers.

by sfgfan on Apr 17, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Can’t wait to see the rest of the season predictions

by sundaysfinest on Apr 17, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Getting excited...

All the 4-0 and 3-1 talk got me excited but I remember two summers ago I was feeling the same way. I may try to avoid reading too many optimistic articles for that reason. I would love 4-0 and 3-1 but we could just as easily be 1-3 to start the season. I’m interested to see how the cards and ’hawks look.

by blako on Apr 17, 2009 2:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Excited

I think that the 49ers need to go at least 3-1 going into the next stretch of games if they want any shot at the division. After weeks five and six, the “cakewalk” part of the schedule will be over and the team will go through the toughest stretch of teams (and scheduling) of the year.

by sfgfan on Apr 17, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to predict

2-2 at the 4 game junction.

Wins versus Seattle and St. Louis, losses to the Cards and Purple People Eaters.

Singletary will remind the team of what Seattle did to them last season, and what will happen to the 49ers if it happens again. (they’ll find out Samurai isn’t just a nick name, someone’s gonna get chopped in the throat)

The Rams will be helpless against Shaun Hill aka The Ram Killer.

The Cards will stake a claim that they are defending NFC Champs early on, by beating the Niners in the Zona home opener. Anyone else getting sick of the Arizona week 1 matchup? I am.

Adrian Peterson had his worst game as a pro versus the Niners in his rookie season. It didn’t matter, as the Vikes thumped the Niners easily. With a more balance approach to the game (the Niners not sending Clements into the backfield everytime AP is on the field), the game will be closer. However, the toughness of the Vikes D will prevail.

If they start 4-0, I’ll have a brain annuerism (sp?).

by Andrew Davidson on Apr 17, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the Vikes D is suspect...

Not only did they lose Sharper to free agency one of the Williams mountain is suspended… If we can open the field up a lil Gore may be able to run on their D and Davis might have a good game since sharper won’t be lurking.

The cards may be without Bolding so double coverage to Fitz is a must…then we sack the hell out of warner as to say we didn’t need you. Their d was also depleted during the offseason, Berry and Dansby are gone and i see a better chance to run. I think we might surprise some people here.

The hawks are tricky, who is their running back. Hassleback needs to be hit. Their d is not as intimidating without peterson. i think we can take them

and then the rams… 4-0 for sure

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Apr 17, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mistakes... 4-0 stays intact

both dansby and berry were resigned and it’s spelled Hasselbeck

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Apr 17, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be SHOCKED if we started 4-0

Don’t get me wrong. I’d be very happy if we started that well. I just don’t think its going to happen. Is it possible that we beat the defending NFC champions on the road. Certainly (especially since there will probably be plenty of first game rust), but it strikes me as only a 40% probability. We should be able to take the Seahawks at home, but like you all say, they won’t be push overs. Maybe there’s a 65% chance we win that game. Then another road game, this time against a very solid Vikings team. That one looks 50-50 to me. Then I give us an 85% chance to beat the Rams at home.

My point is that we could very well lose any of these games. Winning all of them stikes me as unlikely, expecially with our weaknesses at RT, NT, WR, OLB and FS.

by kiyoshi on Apr 17, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3-1 is my prediction

I believe the Niners will go 3-1 in the first four games. Last year – we barely lost to AZ both games. In addition, if the Vikings get Favre then yeah we’ll get spanked. If not, we’ll actually barely lose that game. We own Hasselbeck and the rams… 3-1 all the way! :)

Steven

by Slong on May 16, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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