2009 NFL Draft: Official Scouts Inc. 7-round mock draft
While we do have an official mock drafting FanPost, I thought the official 7-round mock draft presented by Scouts Inc and Todd McShay was worth posting to the front page. Well, the 7 rounds for the 49ers at least. If you have any questions about who went where, post it in the comments and I (or anybody else with Insider access) will be happy to post an answer. I figure that doesn't cross ethical boundaries....maybe.
1. Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss - While I do like Oher, this remains less than inspiring given where Oher is listed among best players available. If it comes down to Oher and Sanchez I remain convinced the 49ers will trade down. Of course McShay and Co. actually have Sanchez going 4th overall. I'm really quite intrigued to see what happens with Sanchez on Saturday.
2. Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan - A quick search brought up a Mocking the Draft scouting report on Delmas (and the fact that the Cowboys took him with their 2nd round pick in our mock draft). The general idea with Delmas is that he is great in coverage, but a bit soft in tackling and might be a bit undersized. As a 4-year starter and 3-time all MAC player he would likely be able to provide some solid competition for Dashon Goldson.
3. Sebastian Vollmer, OT, Houston - Vollmer ranks right behind Phil Loadholt and Jamon Meredith among offensive tackles. At 6'7, 314lbs he definitely brings some serious size to the tackle position. It sounds like his primary weaknesses are bull rushers getting in under him and generally plays too high. Of course, when you're 6'7, I'd imagine it's difficult to play low. Is it possible for a guy to be toooo tall at offensive tackle?
4. Kenny McKinley, WR, South Carolina - The folks at Mile High Report have an interesting scouting report on the 6'0, 189lb corner from USC. Size-wise he seems like Dominique Zeigler. However, his hands don't seem quite as sure as Zeigler's can be. If he has to add some bulk in the NFL it could hurt his speed. At the same time, he seems to play well against zone defenses. Who knows how smart a player he is but he seems to recognize the limitations of his size.
5a. James Davis, RB, Clemson - While it's hard to tell at this point, some folks would have you believe Davis is worth upwards of a third round pick. From what the Scout's Inc report indicates, Davis is not the fastest guy in the world but has a strong ability to read the defense and exploit holes. All things considered, I wonder how much more the 49ers would be getting from him than what we already get in Frank Gore. The 49ers do need another running back, but would it be better to go with a more complementary back?
5b. Ryan Mouton, CB, Hawaii - At 5'9, 187 lbs, Mouton definitely doesn't bring much size to the secondary. At the same time he seems to have a lot of athleticism and really likes to hit folks. While he might turn into a solid NFL corner, I see him as more of a special teams guy. Anybody who is small and likes to hit people seems to work well as a special teams option.
After the jump we go through the 49ers last three picks and give some wrap-up analysis.
6. Anthony Parker, G, Tennessee - At 6'1 297lbs, one of the main concerns with Parker is his somewhat below average size for an NFL guard. Apparently his speed is fine but if he has to put on weight, will the speed come down? He seems to have the skills needed to be successful, but I keep coming back to size. The NFL is getting bigger and bigger. Any thoughts on relatively undersized offensive linemen?
7a. Tom Brandstater, QB, Fresno State - I put together a scouting report back in early March about the local boy. He's got size and surprising speed for such a guy. The problem is accuracy. If they snagged him in the 7th round I would be quite pleased at the value. I'm not sure if he's a long-term solution, but I'm intrigued to see what could happen with him in camp.
7b. Derek Walker, DE, Illinois - Walker is a bit undersized for a defensive end, but he seems like a guy who could fit the 3-4 DE role of occupying blockers. It sounds like he brings solid strength to the position which seems like one more positive for the 3-4 DE role.
So there you have it. Three different OL, FS, CB, DE, QB, RB and WR. I find value in a lot of the picks, but I'm not sure I see three offensive linemen being drafted. Maybe two, but three seems a bit much. Walker is the only DL/LB taken and it sounds like he can't make the conversion to OLB. I definitely think an OLB gets drafted somewhere in there.
I'm sure folks have plenty of areas of disagreement with this mock. Thoughts?
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Sanchez 4th, to Seattle?
Sounds like Niners Nation has their very own draft guru in house.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 22, 2009 8:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this mock sucks
it does not add the rushing LB we need, the fact they suggest the niners taking 2 OT in the first day is somewhat ludicrous… I would have Brown taken the first day along with Barden.
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
by bayboy on Apr 22, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Correction...
the first day only consists of 2 rounds now…..
by Qbgetter13 on Apr 22, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Not a fan of these picks – I like Oher at 10 b/c he’s got lots of upside and is a good run blocker with a ton of athleticism. Andre Smith was already taken, otherwise he’d be the pick. As some point we have to put our money where our mouth is as far as preparing to be the running team Sing envisions, and the Oher pick does this.
FS in the second seems odd; I think we’ll take a pass rushing OLB or maybe a DT. (Was Brace available with this pick?) Then in the 3rd we take another OT. What? It’s like the person doing the picking didn’t see the first round pick. Maybe the thinking is that we should try to have 4-6 guys on the roster who can play OT. I call that craziness. You know, we did just give a guy $5 million a year to play RT followed by apparently using a top-10 pick on an OT. Weird, weird, weird.
I’m not familiar with this WR but his size is not ideal. I’ll give the “experts” the benefit of the doubt; I don’t think anyone can argue adding some depth at WR could be beneficial for an unproven group. Maybe he’s a slot guy?
James Davis in the 5th – was Jennings available here? ESPN says this about Davis which makes me think he’s not Singletary’s kind of guy. “Does not run with same passion on every-down.” While I like the position choice, I’m curious if there were more promising backs available. Arian Foster intrigues me, if he was available. He’s 6’1" 226lb. and seems like a better pass catcher and more competitive. PJ Hill and Javaris Williams fit the physical profile we’re looking for – BIG – but Hill might have fumblitis and Williams might not be strong enough to be used on 3rd and shorts, presumably one of the most important roles for this back. I think I could talk myself into liking Davis, though.
Rounding out the draft I think it gets pretty tough for non scouts to give a decent opinion. From a positions point of view I like picking a CB or two, adding some depth to the secondary, and picking the project QB in Brandstater. I’m not sure why we picked a DE or an undersized G but they probably wouldn’t make the team anyway. I’m a little suprised there wasn’t a gigantic NT picked anywhere nor was there a FB or a blocking TE picked. These seem like needs, but I suppose there’s still some free agency to go.
by Neon on Apr 22, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have
Brian Orakpo instead of Oher. From what i’ve heard Orakpo is a beast and would give us possibly one of the best LB coprs in the league.
by Smithisstilltheanswer on Apr 22, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s more 4-3 DE at this point.
Let's Get This Started 2010:
NT Jay "That" Guy, OLB Cecil "The Hanta Virus" Whiteside, DE Cassius "Smashius" Marsh, ILB David "Doop" Wilkerson
... to be continued
by Thoroughbred on Apr 22, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orakpo
I don’t have a link but folks think he could also work as a 3-4 OLB
by Fooch on Apr 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t they question his pass coverage skills?
by Neon on Apr 22, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think that was his issue
it was more inconsistency, as in he destroys great LT’s sometimes and then gets beat by mediocre ones sometimes
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 22, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could, but he’s really stiff… which usually means he may not play well in open areas and could be a liability in coverage…I dunno… I suppose he could be a solid pick if he’s REALLY GOOD at rushing the passer consistently because he may only be a 2-down OLB
Let's Get This Started 2010:
NT Jay "That" Guy, OLB Cecil "The Hanta Virus" Whiteside, DE Cassius "Smashius" Marsh, ILB David "Doop" Wilkerson
... to be continued
by Thoroughbred on Apr 22, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think he would be considered a guaranteed top 10 pick
if he was only a 2 down LB
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 23, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not a guaranteed top-10 pick. That’s why at least half the mock drafts out there have him taken after us at #10. Todd McShay has him going #11 to the Bills in his most recent mock from Tuesday. Scout.com has Everette Brown ranked ahead of him and doesn’t have him as a top-10 talent.
While it’s entirely possible Orakpo will go in the top-10 it’s just as likely or maybe even more likely that he won’t be in the top 10.
by Neon on Apr 23, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
still
I would hope he is more than a 2 down player.
otherwise picking him would be as pointless as drafting a RT with a top 10 pick
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 24, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On
the CBS site on of the writers has the 49ers picking Josh Freeman at 10. Without trading down. I think if that happened my reaction might be similar to the young Jets fan in this article.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/joe_posnanski/04/15/draft/index.html
by save10 on Apr 22, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the 49ers took Freeman....
I wouldn’t watch football for at least 3years…
by Smithisstilltheanswer on Apr 22, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can rest tonight,ain't going to happen
and if they did,I would do the same as you.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 22, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO WAY
No pass rush on day 1? 2 OTs? What are they on? Is FS a big enough need to warrant a second round pick of a guy who apparently would only be usefull for coverage? That’s it….No more MOCKS. We are mocked out. Done. I refuse to look at another MOCK. They are just getting silly.
by Arkie49er on Apr 22, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes FS is needed
He is good at coverage… thats what we need … he can tackle well enough…. Lewis is the safety that plays up and brings the boom… that is why they call is strong and free.
We need a guy that can cover.
by Qbgetter13 on Apr 22, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
but better pass rush is a good as coverage at this point. We could put 20 guys out there, and if the QB has all day, someone will break open. If we are going D, lets get someone to rush the QB. I bet our D-backs’ stats will look a whole lot better because of it.
by Arkie49er on Apr 22, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
The talent level is closer between a DE/OLB in the 2nd and one in the 7th than it is at FS.
by Qbgetter13 on Apr 22, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stats don't equal quality
A pass rush will help our secondary get more INTs, but it won’t make them any better at actually covering someone.
Any DB who can’t get in a receiver’s grill and stop a quick slant or hook isn’t going to make a difference with or without a pass rush. Good QB’s only need 3 seconds to find someone and that’s all they needed last year to pick apart that ridiculously soft cover 2 scheme that the 49ers were using. Patrick Willis and Takeo Spikes were more helpful to the pass defense last year than both safeties combined.
Hopefully they can get both a pass rusher and young CB/S in the first three rounds. Defense should be addressed in this draft as it is the key to running a smashmouth running offense.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 22, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it will.
You take time away from the QB, and put someone in his face, and that does make your coverage better. No one can cover like a blanket for 15 or 20 seconds. I agree we need both, but I think we need PR more.
by Arkie49er on Apr 22, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pure exaggeration
QB’s did not have (or need) 15 seconds to pass against us last year. Most of the passes were 10-15 yards on the outside and against extremely loose coverage.
I agree that drafting a pass rusher is a necessity in this draft, but that does not solve the coverage issues with this team. It just changes how QB’s and OC’s will attack the 49ers. Less post/corners and more slant/hooks, especially to slot WR’s.
Who do we have to stick with a good/fast slot WR right now? Last year Breaston (ARI), Avery (STL), and Welker (NE) ate the 49ers alive on quick hits. A pass rush isn’t going to change that.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 22, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
that was an exaggeration to get the point across. I just thing we need a PR more than a Back. I feel ok about the middle, and even if we take a DB/S, who in the draft do you think will come in and make an instant difference. Nice, versatile OLB first is all I’m sayin.
by Arkie49er on Apr 22, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to improve at SS not FS
Our SS can’t blitz to save his life or cover to savee his children, helluva hitman he’s really a 2 down SS maybe Lawson should spell him on 3rd and our new OLB (E Brown) will get afta that QB
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 22, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Lewis...
is a proven starter… we have yet to really see what we are getting with Goldson. I cant see Jimmy Williams or Reggie Smith working out so now what. You are going to had the job to Goldson?…. no i think you have to bring in competition. A rookie is not going to beat out Lewis at SS. He does however need a backup because if he goes down we are screwed…. he helps out our run D a lot.
by Qbgetter13 on Apr 23, 2009 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blitzing, a criteria for SS?
I think having a SS that can blitz effectively is way more of a luxury than a necessity. How many SS netted a sack last year? Lewis is at least a league average SS, the Niners’ FS are, from what we’ve seen thus far, below league average.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a blocking TE instead of WR
You didn’t select a OLB, so I assume you’re okay with the current LB group. Although I would like 3 OL, 2 is enough.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 22, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is Joe Jon Finley ?
He is the 3rd TE on the Roster. When did they sign Him?
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 22, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True,
Then I would take the rest of your selection and move them up one notch. I don’t see a need for a WR so early or even at all. I could wait next year for a WR.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 22, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PLEASE GOD NO JAMES DAVIS! I honestly don’t see him providing anything over any of the current RBs after watching upwards of 10 Clemson games the last two years.
Let's Get This Started 2010:
NT Jay "That" Guy, OLB Cecil "The Hanta Virus" Whiteside, DE Cassius "Smashius" Marsh, ILB David "Doop" Wilkerson
... to be continued
by Thoroughbred on Apr 22, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NO on......
McKinley, davis and Parker
McKinley is a good solid college receiver. He was a high school QB. I went to carolina for 3 out of his 4 years. He was the only consistent guy on the team and that includes Jared Cook. Never really had a QB. He actually plays really smart and to hear him give an interview you would think he had the IQ of a frozen apple. I wish my Gamecock the best of luck but i dont know what we would do with him.
Davis does nothing for me. As a Gamecock, I’m not being biased. I will tell you now that there will not be a louder person next year pushing for CJ Spiller and Ricky Sapp. I think Clayton would make him look bad.
Parker is too small for a guard. Singletary is going to go after a power running game with big Guards.
by Qbgetter13 on Apr 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Terrible
Yet still possible given the poor draft history of this regime.
That draft would be an epic failure.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 22, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WR Ramses Barden
I would like to see us get this guy later in the draft. 6’6 230 lbs. Hands like a monster. With a guy that big all you have to do is throw it up high when you’re in the red zone and let him go get it or it sails out of bounds. I watched him go up and catch a pass with one hand and then dunk it over the goalpost with utter ease. Anyone else like this guy? Or know anything about him?
by TheJoeShow on Apr 22, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how much later?
He’ll probably be gone by our 3rd round pick, so you either need to reach and take him with the 2nd or trade up from the 3rd.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 22, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say
Who knows who will be available when we pick? I agree that he would be either late 2nd or 3rd most likely. 2nd might be a stretch for our pick but could be worth it depending on who’s still on the board. There’s the possibility that we could get more draft picks in a trade too. Which would really change everything. I just think we should get him if he’s available at a reasonable price. He’s gonna be a killer in the red zone and on hot routes. All he has to do is fall forward and we pick up 2 or 3 yards.
by TheJoeShow on Apr 22, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at Aaron Kelly in the 5th.
You want a big possession/redzone WR with great hands, concentration, and body control similar to Barden? Kelly is slightly faster than Barden, but the one thing neither of them has is the quickness to get separation early. Both can be jammed at the LOS and taken out of the play unless they learn some moves.
by MontanaPass on Apr 22, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't mind this draft
as long as the 49ers select Rashad Johnson over Delmas.
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on Apr 22, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty satifised
with this draft.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Apr 22, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea
but it seems like a lot of people have us taking Oher in the first, which seems like a good safe pick to me
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Apr 22, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a realistic draft scenario at all.
1.Two OTs , one of them 25 years old already?
2.A FS in the 2nd with about 5-6 good FSs later on?
3.Passing on a 2nd round pass rusher or RB?
4.An OG who doesn’t break 6-2? Gimme a break!
5.A slow, short 5th round CB in a division with big WRs?
As usual, most of these mockers have absolutely no idea about which players fit which teams in terms of need, scheme, or team philosophy.
by MontanaPass on Apr 22, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As far as OLB goes....
You could look at this two ways….
Do you think Singletary will drool over an Orakpo as his pride and joy and unleashing him on offenses?
or
Do you think he will trust himself at evaluation the OLB position and try to get sleeper picks at the position where he sees a few key qualities that he loves?
by Qbgetter13 on Apr 22, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From what I've heard
Orakpo is an extremely hard worker, something Sing loves. my question is this: If Orakpo is available, how could Sing pass on him? Granted Scotty Mac has the “trigger” but with Lawson (whom I love) not being the pass rusher they expected, Orakpo just seems like the perfect fit.
by Smithisstilltheanswer on Apr 22, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best 7 round mock I've seen.... is here
http://thefootballexpert.com/mockdraft.html
They seem to really have taken the time to study team needs and players who have visited.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 22, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As fantasy GM, I'd select..
Andre Smith OT
Rashad Johnson FS
Deon Butler WR
Sammie Lee Hill NT
Antone Smith or Tyrell Sutton RB
Hunter Cantwell QB
Donald Washington CB
Maurice Evans DE
Kevin Ellison OLB/S
http://49ersboard.blogspot.com/2009/03/seven-rounds-nine-selections.html
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on Apr 22, 2009 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1st Round QB Please
Nice list Fooch, but sometimes you have to draft another one if the one you have isn’t working out. I like the 2 OT option, Michael Other is something other on the football field. I think he can be a consistent Pro-Bowler if he develops right. This year’s draft order is one of the tougher to predict in recent years. If you could draft for 10 rounds, you can make a top ten list on my site toptentopten.com. You can vote on who you think will be drafted in what order and can add your own if you don’t see your pick there.
by vincetastic on Apr 22, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
…so if we assume Sanchez is gone by 10, which most experts do, are you suggesting we draft Freeman at 10? By almost all accounts that would be a gigantic reach.
by Neon on Apr 22, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant see that making any sense
The only real reason to draft Sanchez is that he is a franchise QB.. if he falls to you and you believe in BPA you take him. I dont think Freeman fits that mold. He will get taken by a team that NEEDS a QB as opposed to BPA
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 22, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I am not a fan of using a first or second rounder on any QB, much less using the #10 on the third best QB in a weak QB class.
by Neon on Apr 22, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nathan Brown
from Central Arkansas, in the 6th or 7th. A, he is from my alma mater..yes…I know. B, he is probably the most underated QB out there, because of where he is coming from. I think (and this isn’t just state pride talking) that he could end up being a diamond in the rough type guy.
by Arkie49er on Apr 22, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nathan Brown’s highlights are really impressive. He looks like he has a really strong arm with touch and he can pass on the run. He’s a little guy (6’1") but I think the whole height thing at QB is a little overblown.
Another guy I’m still big on, especially considering McLovin said we’d get 2-3 WRs in the draft, is Pat White. There’s just something about him where he seems like he’s going to be very successful in the NFL, whether it’s at QB or WR. He’s really fast, very athletic, and apparently has a great football IQ. ESPN ranks him the 9th best WR prospect while Scout.com ranks him the 4th best QB prospect. I think if he’s there in the 3rd we should get him.
by Neon on Apr 22, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt mind pat white at all
as a 3rd rounder. I think football players can play no matter what level, and he could succeed at SOME postition
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 23, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandstater...
…Dumb ass Pat Hill never let him throw the ball over 8 yards. When he did let Tommy air it out, it looked good. But all in all…I like him as a late round pick.
by swerv on Apr 22, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I say wait...
too see what we have with Hill and A. Smith. If neither pans out then we can hopefully grab Colt McCoy or Sam Bradford next year.
by Smithisstilltheanswer on Apr 22, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yuck!
I’d be super disappointed with a crappy draft like this. Yuck, yuck yuck!
by Since79 on Apr 23, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yuck PS
We need an impact pass rusher like a few posts above suggest. I
can’t sit there on 3rd down and watch these guys pick us apart anymore.
IMPACT PASS RUSHER and the Niners make the playoffs. — Orakpo? Everette Brown? Barwin? Cody Brown? We’ve got to get tougher on D or we’re doomed to have another wimpy assed year.
by Since79 on Apr 23, 2009 12:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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