2009 NFL Draft Day 1, Open Thread 3
by David Fucillo on Apr 25, 2009 4:04 PM PDT
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PrintThings are filling up rather quickly in our other threads, so I thought I'd roll this thread out to speed up the site and discussion. Feel free to use this thread for discussion of Michael Crabtree or any other aspect of the 2009 NFL Draft. We'll keep this thread rolling until the 49ers make their second pick of the draft.
Personally I'd love to see the 49ers grab a guy like Ron Brace with their second round pick. Why not lock up the nose tackle position for the foreseeable future? Aubrayo Franklin has been solid but he's a free agent after this season and I don't see Isaac Sopoaga as the long-term answer at NT. Of course, maybe they go outside linebacker or offensive lineman. What do you guys think?
Make sure and also keep an eye on Mocking the Draft for complete draft coverage.
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Haha, NOT.
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i've got to think
he’ll be gone by our pick, but maybe we’ll trade up to nab him?
I don't think it's worth a trade up
Brown is kind of a pipe dream but I do like that the Tackles are dropping as well. I would be fine with Britton, Beatty, or Loadholt in the 2nd.
I’d love to get one of those tackles. I also have a sneaky feeling that the Titans pick Brown.
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Would be amazing
And the best draft in recent 49ers history in terms of value.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
that would be great
but id be ok with us trading up to get him as well
Again, good call. And Nicks is pretty good.
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Value picks remaining on the board
All first round talents
DE/OLB Everette Brown
RB Chris Wells
OT Eben Britton
DT Evander Hood
LB Rey Maualuga
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Not nearly the same kind of value. Good talent, though, and I would not mind.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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Depends on who you ask
I think he’s a first round talent, but he’s not a consensus 1st rounder like the guys above.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor Rey
He was the top dog of USC’s defense last year and yet Cushing and Matthews have gone before him. He should have came out last year and shouldn’t grind Erin Andrews after the Rose Bowl.
On second thought, grinding Erin was worth being a late late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder.
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 25, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably best if we get a OL, shore up that spot for Gore and another back to run through
by NinersnowRule!Crabs on Apr 25, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
nice
I’m loving the run on WR’s since we already have Crabtree. A lot of gems are dropping to the 2nd round. We might get an even better value at #43 than we did at #10 with Crabtree.
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The Steelers get Mendenhall back from IR this year. I bet they go Unger.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Como?
Their bigger problem is that their top two backs have injury issues. If healthy, they have a great one-two punch. I’d look for them to pick up a big back later (since I’m betting Wells goes to AZ).
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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Agreed.
Its sad how many WR’s are going in the first. Everybody needs one Who knows what we can get now.
by NinersnowRule!Crabs on Apr 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
adding beenie wells to the zona offense
also seems kinda scary
so I'm pretty wasted
ans I have hiccups like you wouldn’t believe
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Classy
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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Based on needs
Lions need a tackle, so Britton or Beatty might go there
Patriots should be taking a 3-4 LB (probably laughing at the possibility of Everette Brown)
Browns are converting to 3-4, so need OLB’s (Barwin is a possibility and a Pioli kind of guy)
Packers already got Raji, so won’t be stealing Brace at NT… still need a 3-4 OLB or DE (maybe Jarron Gilbert or Connor Barwin)
Bills need a tackle bad (Britton, Beatty, or Loadholt)
It’s looking like we’ll have one of the OLB’s on the board (Brown, Barwin, or Johnson), one of the OT’s (Britton, Beatty, or Loadholt), and a couple of CB’s (S.Smith, Butler, A.Smith)
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BOOM!
Let’s see if he can stiff arm through that.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Week 1?
Wells goes on youtube and typed in “Patrick Willis”, then proceed to “tear” his ACL and collect insurance money,
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 25, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting pick from the Steelers. I’d imagine they’re moving Hood to DE.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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great 3-4 DE
300 pounder who runs a 4.8 with 33 reps… crazy
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Arizona. Damn.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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damn is right,
but thats ok, we can get a decent rb in the third or fourth
by NinersnowRule!Crabs on Apr 25, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Terrible pick by the Lions. They still need an OT and a LB.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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I dont agree with the entire Lions draft
Proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is Howry do it!
I would’ve taken Stafford, too. But come on! Their line is terrible. Take an OT. Their front seven is terrible. Take a LB or a DE. Safety? TE? What?!
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
what do you expect
These are the Lions lol. Having said that, their pass defense was atrocious. They should have gone OT and LB with the last two picks.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Arizona wont last forever
and our future looks a lot better if we can pull off a decent qb in the next year, mccoy, bradford
by NinersnowRule!Crabs on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM PDT reply actions
BEWARE!!
THE NINERS OFFENSE CAN GIVE YOU A:
VD, CRABS AND A BRUUUUCE!!!
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
I swear
I’ll go nuts if the Niners get Crabtree and Smith in this draft
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is everyone hoping for? Malauga for me
Proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is Howry do it!
Brace. Then one of the OTs or Maualuga or Chung.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
As soon as I hit post.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Wow, the niners are going to have a good one to choose from in round 2
Still a couple of picks away, but
Eben Britton
Rey Maualuga
Phil Loadholt
Everette Brown
William Beatty
William Moore
highly doubtful
He’s not quick or explosive enough to rush the passer
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
No. And he’s not really a 3-4 ILB either (or at least, not a Ted).
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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This draft is shaping up PERFECTLY!
Lions and Patriots leave OT’s, OLB’s, and CB’s on the board.
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Sounds like an 80s band.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
OMG ASIANS IN THE NFL!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
That’s like girls on the Internet.
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niners could get
a top 15 pick in everette brown
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Brown
He was expected to go in the top 10 in some mock drafts but I guess he slipped while Tyson Jackson took his place.
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 25, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
might have to trade up
I think you almost have to trade up to get that kind of talent. What’s it going to cost? Maybe a 4th/5th rounder… that’s more than worth it.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
8 Picks Remaining
Still on the board
DE Everette Brown
CB Darius Butler
CB Sean Smith
DE Connor Barwin
DE Michael Johnson
OT Eben Britton
OT William Beatty
OT Phil Loadholt
DT Ron Brace
DE Jarron Gilbert
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+1
It’s baseball season for him
or old school season
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
I can’t wait to see him get blown up by Frank.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Or VD
Indeed.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I also
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Half the state is in the South?
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
They already have Tatupu and Hill. I bet they go o-line.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
No way the Seahawks go LB again
Although I’d love to see SF get him, I think they used all of their luck when Crabtree fell. I hope that I am wrong.
everette brown, maualuga or britton
those are my top 3
na not me personally
but im still ready to be convinced otherwise…
Do we have a good NT? No. Can Ron Brace be a really good NT? Yes. Boom. Roasted.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
need a little more than that
but im almost there
is he the only NT available?
No. Brace has serious injury problems (a 300+ lb young man who already has back problems) and there are similar players from small schools available in the 4th-5th rounds.
I like Brace though and would love to see him drafted. He’s just not a no-brainer here.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you. I wouldn’t mind passing on him as long as we draft a guy like Hill later on. But it’s not a position that can be neglected in this draft.
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nice list
I’m going with Everette Brown, Sean Smith, and Rey Maualuga in that order. Ron Brace, Connor Barwin, and Britton as the 2nd tier.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Forget OT or DT
Willis Maualuga = niners ILB
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions
6 Receivers taken so far
And no wanted TO, Braylon Edwards or Boldin. Yep the league is sometimes retarded.
Beat me to the punch.
So crazy! Glad we got the best of the bunch!
by Poundtherock on Apr 25, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I cant fathom how no team would give a 2nd rounder for Boldin
Proud adoptive parent of the set-up man.
This is Howry do it!
why dont
the browns and cardinals just swap boldin and edwards? it would solve their problems and they get about the same player
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions
Does Jacksonville need a LB?
Maualuga should be availible. If he falls to the 49ers, there will be some interesting discussions in the war room despite a need for OT.
Did the Broncos trade up? Bet it’s for Brace.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Alphonso Smith? No sense.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
or..
Everette Brown, they loved him,
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Alphonso Smith
Good pick. Baily and Bly aren’t getting any younger and are in their 30s.
Wow`
Moving up for Alphonso Smith.
Wow.
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and giving up a first rounder
what am i missing?
Robbery
They get a top 10 pick next year lol.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
why do you trade
a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick?
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
because you’re stupid.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
You devalue by a round per year when you trade a future pick. They must have REALLY like Smith. But it doesn’t make much sense when they could’ve gotten Smith or an equivalent player ten picks later.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yeah they are.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
It's happened before
The colts traded their 2008 1st rounder to SF in 2007 for the 49ers 2007 2nd rounder and took Tony Ugoh.
This is amazing
5 picks remaining and every player who the 49ers need from the 1st round is still on the board. Unless they all go in order here, the 49ers should be getting a 1st round talent.
Now is not the time for another Chilo Rachal pick. There’s talent here!
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Road Warrior Animal's son will play against us
For his first game, all fans should paint their faces like the Legion of Doom. Old school.
Wow
if 49ers land Eben Britton or Everette Brown just wow. I think they would have the best draft.
seriously
I’m in favor of drafting and then trading back into the second if both those guys are still on the board. If we got both and just kept a couple later picks to grab a QB and RB late I’d be thrilled with this draft.
Thing A
Trade next year's 2nd?
I doubt next year’s draft has this kind of talent in the 2nd round. I’d be all for trading next year’s 2nd and this year’s 4th/5th to get two picks in this year’s 2nd round.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Defense or offense here in round 2?
I think you have to address some of the defensive issues here in the 2nd round given the talent that has dropped here.
Britton or Beatty may be good values at #43, but I’d be pretty disappointed with those picks if some other guys are on the board.
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FROM Matt Maiocco RE 2nd round pick
“Looking ahead, I still don’t think the 49ers would take Everette Brown, but Rey Maualuga has to be an option if he lasts that long.”
I fucking hate having the hiccups
its a damn good thing the niners drafted someone good otherwise i’d be in such a bad mood
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
I know a secret
Drink water while keeping your head down. it works.
So there
is no way the niners can mess this pick up with all the 1st round talent out there… right
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions
these are the niners after all
Crabtree was too obvious… this one isn’t as obvious
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
erin looks amazing
I would do unspeakable things to her
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
She looks even better in person. Trust me.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
If I did things to her, I would speak about them constantly to everyone I could find and also strangers on the street.
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The 49ers select...
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions
Wow
Bengals get Maualuga. I’m sure they are happy right now.
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i hope they pick
bill cosby
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions
THERE HE GOES
mr maualuga. Sucks he goes to cincy. Sorry Ray
means king in spanish
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Already gone to Cleveland.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
No problem.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Robiskie already taken
They could be going for CB though.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
please trade up niners
There’s so much talent here.
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He does get to hang out with his ole bud Rivers.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Hey question guys
can I take a sh-t right now and get back in time for the 49er pick?
MURS for President!!!!!!!
and...
don’t forget to wipe
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
depends on what you ate
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
You can't wipe though
Grunt, push, flush then back to the tube
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by Scooter Ellis on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Between Smith and Malauga, quite a solid draft for the Bengals.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
not as solid as ours if we land brown or a tackle
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Butler or Smith are best CB's on the board...
I thought they were the 2nd and 3rd best in this draft. Great picks if they are there and Brown gets taken first.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet Everette Brown drops to NE
a few picks before us. Just a gut feeling
Say
If Brown and Britton are gone, who should the 49ers take?
Sean Smith
CB, Utah
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Did the 49ers sign any CBs this offseason?
If so, I’d say they wait until the late rounds
And Britton gone to Jax.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Apparently. Strange.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
makes sense
Beef up that line, I’m cool with that. May not be popular with fans, but its smart.
by Poundtherock on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This is true. They still have needs at WR, DT, and LB. So it’s a lot to pay when you have other needs. I do think it’ll work long-run though.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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There goes Britton
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM PDT reply actions
lol
Maybe they take Michael Ray Garvin next
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Usain Bolt
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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Nevermind. They traded with the Pats.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
And they take Barwin.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Now the Raiders get to take Bolt.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
i think
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions
they could be looking for a gallery type player here
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions
Do you guys think
Jairus Byrd is a reach at this point?
HUGE reach
Not even a consideration IMO. I poop on that pick.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Watch the Pats rape the draft board
Everette Brown and Ron Brace or something like that with the next few picks.
I knew they were scheming to move into the 30-80 range.
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yup thats what i was saying a
few posts ago
if he falls...
…everette brown is the pash rush pick for the niners here, no?
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Apr 25, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions
without a doubt
He’s arguably better than Orakpo/Maybin
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure
McCloughin made some comments about wanting pass rushers who are 6’2 and in the 240-260 range, but I could be wrong.
Brown
is 6-2, 250
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Belichick likes
sucking on Al Davis’s b@11s
no
davis wouldn’t let you near his balls unless you have a 4.3 40 tim
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Did the Raiders get the late 2nd round pick from the Pats?
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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They moved down 7 spots and got the 4th and 6th rounders from the Pats.
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Ahh
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Thank you Raiders for making this possible!!
I just got home and I am in shock!! I feel like the Niners just won the lottery
GO NINERS!!!
Isnt it nice
To actually have faith in our coaching staff to use those players too? Ahh
by Poundtherock on Apr 25, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sucks
Patriots trading up was the worst case scenario for the 49ers here. They run the same defense and have good scouts.
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just would like to point out...
…in re my breakdown of NE draft strategy…
NE won 11 games last year, and they loaded up on picks in this draft anyway
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Apr 25, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions
Told you
Here goes the draft rape
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Brace to the Pats. Eff.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Damn, I was hoping the Niners would draft a BC player for once :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Me too. Brace and Joey in the city would have been wonderful.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’m a fan of Raji too, but I’m more than happy with Crabtree.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
PABLO SANDOVAL AM STEAL DEATH, DESTROYER OF WORLDS.
Agreed
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Welcome to the New England Patriots
Professional organization.
Was McLoughlin sitting on his hands for the last hour? Does he not see the talent on the board?
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IF
brown goes we should get the local product out of SJSU. GO SPARTANS!
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
Brown still on the board!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
lol
3rd round talent who runs a 4.65 at DE with double-digit sacks in a major conference?
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the Pats didn’t totally screw it up for us. Take Butler with the second pick.
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Great picks
Brace and Butler. Butler should have gone in the 1st round.
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in the mock
I had Brown to Buffalo at 11.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Everette Brown or Sean Smith
I don’t want to see any other names called. PLEASE [begs]
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Barwin
Forgot about him. Barwin too.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Brown or Barwin, please.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Get
Jarron Gilbert-DT
CB- Darius Butler
CB-Sean Smith
DE- Everette Brown
OT-Willilam Beatty
Gilbert baby
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
cloud 10*
We picked ten, therefore could 10, gosh, get it right
by Poundtherock on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
who doesn't though
There are a handful of prospects who can step into a 3-4 at OLB immediately and most of them aren’t that good to begin with.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm honestly not sure...
He’s never specifically said why that I can recall. What he says today:
Don’t know the particulars on why Brown has lasted through 39 picks, but I’ve heard rumblings that a lot of teams have placed third-round grades on him. I think that’s where the 49ers might have him, too. Of course, there has to be a team that has him in the second round.
by David Fucillo on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
loius sakoda to back up nedney
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!
Bills take Jairus Byrd.
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FUCKYESEVERETTEBROWN
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
not good ones besides Butler
I’m ok with that.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Please do not screw this up niners
There are so many legit 1st rounders on defense.. just pick one!
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do we like brown bc hes a name player?
has anyone seen this guy more than once and does he fit ?
seen plenty
The guy is the best pure pass rusher in this draft. By far the best spin and finesse moves.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a good hybrid DE/OLB
I think he’ll fit.
i think they will pick somemone with a B to start their last name
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
joking right?
Please god say they didn’t trade down from this spot
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
To Carolina. UGH.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’m disappointed that we traded, just that we traded really far back into the second round when there was a ton of talent on the board. Went from 11 to 27 in the second round. Lame.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Or at least I’m assuming.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Trade with Carolina
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Apr 25, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions
:(
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus tapdancing Christ
WTF is McLoughlan thinking here?
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I think 49ers did the right thing.
No one is really worth a really good 2nd round pick at this point except for everette brown.
in what world?
There’s 1st-2nd round talent at OT, OLB, and CB. All need positions.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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WOW WHAT A F'ING DUMB MOVE
We better have gotten a 1st rounder
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hmmm trade so Carolina takes Brown….thats ok. If we didn’t like Brown trading his value is probably the best option
Thing A
it's not ok because there is more talent than just Brown on the board
Now where do the 49ers pick?
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If there's lots of talent left out there, thats a GOOD reason to trade back, right?
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by Call It The Throw on Apr 25, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Lot = 3-4 players
We’re not trading back 3-4 picks. Carolina doesn’t pick again until the 50’s
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
not many
There aren’t Everette Brown’s, Connor Barwin’s, or Sean Smith’s.
nvm, Niners got a 1
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you still miss out on the MUCH BETTER talent here. You get one extra decent player in exchange for giving up a really good player. Not worth it.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
There’s not that much talent, though. Tons of talent at 11 that won’t make it to 27.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
They’ve got to be trading back up to get an OT or OLB.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
No one.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
what did we get...
someone give me the novocaine
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New thread
As soon as I find out what the deal included I’ll have a new thread up for discussion of the trade.
Tom Brandstater
anybody think we could land him in a later round. Hes got good size and pretty nice accuracy.
by BarnettBeBallin on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
I'd like it
I think St. Louis wants him though. I want him as a project though (goodness that sounds like a slave trade statement)
by Poundtherock on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
ya exactly
hes got sleeper written all over him!
by BarnettBeBallin on Apr 25, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
woo 1st rounder 2010
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
I'll take it
I like this pick up. Another #1 next year. I’ll be cheering against Carolina this year.
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by Call It The Throw on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
and we gave up a 4th this year
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by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
what???
We gave up 2nd and 4th for next year’s 1st?
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Little sense
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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Singletary's first year
And we give him nothing to work with on D
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Didn’t we have multiple 4ths this year?
Or was that some other round?
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Fifths
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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Never freakin mind
49ers got next year’s #1
I retract my anger. Great move!
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WOWOWOW
49ers are winners today. A first? wow.
Heres to hoping
Carolina has major injuries and completely tanks next year
Panthers got a steal with E Brown at 43. But a #1 pick next year is even better!! Time to root against the Panthers now. YAAA CRABS!!!
by lincypoo i wuv u on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions
I am more okay with this trade, but I still am not a big fan.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Still though
Everette Brown is top 20 material.
We need Carolina to finish out of the playoffs for this pick to truly be of value.
Next year’s draft is better from 1-10, but not as deep as this one IMO in the positions we need.
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wtf
We gave up our 4th as well?
I’m liking it less and less. Our draft this year is going to be Michael Crabtree. That’s it.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Little sense. This team has tons of holes.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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so we get carolina's 2010 1st round pick?
z
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
so.......................
do we keep watching in hoping that we pick again today?
MURS for President!!!!!!!
Bradford sweepstakes?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bradford/McCoy
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 25, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Not having a second or fourth round pick this year = not making the playoffs
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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Probably weren't making the playoffs with the 2 and 4
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 25, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
We had a decent shot out of a bad division in the weaker conference. Now we don’t. That’s at least one starter or big-time contributor that we lost out on in the second.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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OK even if they made it
1 and done
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, right. I never said Super Bowl. But that’s something that’s worth it, to me, long term because your team learns how to be a winning team.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I think...
… players can “learn to be a winning team” without making playoffs but, you know, just winning? A second and a fourth probably wouldn’t have made much of an impact on the roster, anyway. Outside of Rachal and Morgan, have there been many recent 49ers second and fourth round picks that have made contributions in their first year?
meh
I think you’re overestimating our holes.
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--Daisy Owl
I think you're doing the opposite
Show me Pro-Bowl caliber players on our defense. Patrick Willis. End of study.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate Clements
Takeo Spikes. Haralson possibley if he continues his development. Michael Lewis.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Takeo Spikes and Michael Lewis? LOL. You have an active imagination.
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really
you think it’s THAT much of a streach? They were both good players last year, and both have been pro bowlers in the past. I think your imagination isn’t nearly active enough
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I apologize for being harsh. And yes, I do think it’s that much of a stretch. Spikes is a much different player than he was when made the Pro Bowl. Injuries have really sapped his athleticism. He’s a very good Ted, but not a dominant player anymore. Lewis is really one-dimensional and I think everyone knows it. He can tackle and that’s it. Pro Bowl safeties get picks. Michael Lewis does not.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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OK I'll give you that
they’re borderline at best. However, IMO if they played for the Cowboys they’d be Pro Bowlers.
In any case they’re above average at their positions. I’m not worried about either of the corners, the SS or either of the ILBs. I think 2/3 of the DL is good if not necessarily great. I think Smith has the potential to be a pro bowler, don’t know how I forgot about him. The OLBs are again at least average with flashes of above average. The only really glaraing hole is NT.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I do think the defense is pretty decent with the core of Willis, J Smith and Clements. However, I still don’t like our second DE (Balmer/whoever) or OLB (Lawson has not been a good pass-rusher) or our FS or our NT. Couple that with the lack of quality depth on defense (who are the back-up LBs and safeties?) and I can see this D really struggling with injuries. I don’t expect the offense to score a ton of points, so that could be really troubling.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Let’s see (off the top of my head): OT, OG, back-up RB, OLB, FS, NT. That’s a lot of holes.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'll give you OLB and FS and NT
even though I think Haralson and Goldson are promising, they’re definitely not established players. OT is much more of a long term hole, I think we’ll be fine this year if whoever it was we signed stays healthy. Would I LIKE more OT depth? yeah, but it’s not gonna kill us I don’t think. OG a hole? You’re reaching. Rachal Baas and Snyder should be all we need there. We really need a NT, but who was available at that pick?
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
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We didn’t give up one player. We gave up two. That’s why I don’t like it. It makes it that much harder to address a position like NT, where players get over-drafted due to positional scarcity. I don’t expect Smith to be healthy the whole year, so a quality back-up is key. OG I think is a need because I have suspicion that Snyder isn’t as good as we think he is and that Baas won’t be back after this season.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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+1
Like it or not the team is still rebuilding. I would have liked Brown or Barwin there but the extra pick gives the Niners a lot of flexibility in next year’s draft. The Lions and Chiefs will likely suck and again and probably won’t be looking for a QB which makes them likely trading partners.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I had not thought of that.
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dunno about that
NFC West is still mediocre. Cardinals trade Boldin and they’re average again.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see that happening now, though. Kinda seems like something that had to happen before the draft.
Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
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lol
I’d rather have Terrance Cody and one of the 2nd tier QB’s next year. Cody is going to be a monster in the NFL and makes Raji look like a child.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
49ers are Geniouses!
If something goes haywire this year no matter what, 49ers will be able to draft a QB next year.
Plus
If Prince Alex comes back to claim his throne for us, those tow first round picks are gravy. Sweet, sweet gravy. This is how you build new legacies.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
beg to differ
Most legacies are built in rounds 2-5 by smart organizations (like the Patriots).
The 49ers have had 2 first round picks in a few past drafts this decade and walked away with mediocrity.
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by youALREADYknow on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends
If you pick (and manage) like Al Davis, all the 1st round picks in the universe wouldn’t help you. All I’m saying is, we have fewer holes than big question marks. If some of those tossups end up falling in the plus column, we’ve suddenly gotten ourselves in a great position to make moves in next year’s draft (like the Patriots). Why do they not need their 1st round picks? They have addressed gaping holes and have the bargaining room.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
This makes me want to watch tomorrow.
But I shouldnt have watched this far if we were just going to trade away…. uhg
trade
Apologies for the delay in getting a post up. Feel free to move the conversation over there.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/4/25/853599/san-francisco-49ers-trade-their
Update on trade details from Sando
San Francisco picked up the 111th overall choice this year and the Panthers’ first-round choice in 2010.
If this ends up being a QB
We will rejoice, because we will have pieces in place for years, plus a lot of room next year, we had none this year.
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