2009 NFL Draft: Day 2, Thread 1
by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2009 6:00 AM PDT
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PrintFirst off, thanks to everybody who swung through Niners Nation yesterday. We shattered all NN traffic records yesterday, going well over 23,000 visitors, more than double our previous high. It's exciting times here and it's all thanks to this great community.
After an action-packed Day 1, we return for the second day of the 2009 NFL Draft. I expected to have a couple players to discuss, but as well know, the 49ers traded that pick away. I've thrown up a poll to see what the pulse is after the first day.
There was a lot of excitement leading up to and following the Michael Crabtree selection. However, there were a decent number of groans after the 49ers made their trade with Carolina. We've got people ready to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge, but we've also got folks who are perfectly content at this moment.
Personally, I can see the drawback to trading current picks for future picks, but I also would prefer to look on the brightside at this point in time. We've got a potential #1 receiver and we've added a #1 pick for next year. I thought there were some talented guys there in the second round, but there's a reason I'm not in the 49ers draft room presently.
For those looking to discuss winners and losers across the league, youALREADYknow has put together a quality FanPost with some grades. It's turned into mostly a 49ers discussion, but enjoyment of the debacle that is the Raiders draft can be had there.
Day 2 of the draft brings a chance for some impact players as the 49ers pick 10th in the third round. I did a quick look at Scouts Inc's ranking of players and their top 10 available players are as follows (I removed 4 tight ends and a wide receiver from their rankings for hopefully obvious reasons):
38. D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
43. Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama
49. Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond
52. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
60. Jarron GIlbert, DT, San Jose State
65. Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
66. Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina
70. Andre Brown, RB, North Carolina State
73. Asher Allen, CB, Georgia
74. Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma
So, there is certainly some quality talent still out there. After the jump I've got Mocking the Draft's Top 20 players still available.
18. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech, 6’7, 258
29. Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma, 6’5, 335
33. Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa, 5’11, 235
34. Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri, 6’6, 252
40. D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt, 5'10, 184
44. Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech, 5'11, 194
49. Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose State, 6’6, 280
50. Javon Ringer, RB, Michigan State, 5’9, 205
51. Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State, 6’0, 196
52. Jonathan Luigs, OC, Arkansas, 6’4, 314
55. Nate Davis, QB, Ball State, 6’1, 218
56. Michael Hamlin, SS, Clemson, 6'3, 206
58. Gerald McRath, ILB, Southern Miss, 6’3, 224
59. Asher Allen, CB, Georgia, 5'10, 198
62. Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty, 6’1, 232
63. Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati, 6'0, 190
67. Chip Vaughn, SS, Wake Forest, 6'2, 221
68. Dannell Ellerbe, ILB, Georgia, 6’1, 236
69. Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina, 6’5, 240
71. Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma, 6’0, 204
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looking at that list
Of the guys available, id love to take Michael Johnson as best available player if hes still there
otherwise i want Victor Harris, Jamon Meredith and then Andre Brown
Jarron Gilbert
They just showed a video of him jumping out of a pool. Could be used in a rotation with Jason Smith and Balmer (hopefully) but Michael Johnson is pretty interesting too.
I also wouldn’t rule out Jared Cook. Davis’ days may be numbered. After the Crabtree selection and the trade with Carolina I’m of the impression that the Niners are pretty comfortable with Lawson and Harralson and their interested in revamping the offense.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
RB Andre Brown or CB Mike Mickens.
Either player would be good, imho. Mickens is a true cover corner and Brown has the highest Speed Score of any back in the draft(104+, iirc).
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I have to admit
I was pissed when we traded away the 2nd round pick. but I guess pick 3 is going to determine how pissed I am. We need to go OLB or DT, and we missed out on good RB prospects and DB prospects which should have been an area of concern. It appears we’re not worried about injuries on the D or O otherwise we would have taken picks instead of TRADING OUT of the draft!! maybe they see some gems at 3,5,5,6,7 and 7
LG
1st rd redoux
I have the same feeling about this round as I did about the first. The Niners are going to sit back and go in whatever direction the picks ahead of them dictates. I think it is either A. Brown, Sidburry, Johnston, Moore or Meredith.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
Early start
And I have to say, being up at 7am for this draft means we better get somebody decent this round!
regular season
One plus to being on the east coast is sleeping in Sunday and waking up just in time for the 10am local time start….that and having a few hours of evening left after SNF and MNF.
by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Meredith
I haven’t heard much on Meredith on NN, but I think he could be a good fit on the right side playing behind Marvel the first year or two. What does anyone else think.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
Meredith
I’d be intrigued by him. Could see good things.
by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
we dont have much to give up
i dont see us giving up our 3rd rounder and we only have one tradeable 5th, one 6th and ,one tradeable 7th.
we’d have to trade some picks next year or current players.
My 3rd round pick
rnd 3(74)
1. Fenuki Tupou OT 6-6 322 Oregon – a massive RT who excells at run-blocking
2. Rashard Jennings RB 6-1 235 Liberty – the “Big” back Singeltary wants to spell Gore
3. Duke Robinson OG 6-5 330 Oklahoma – best rated OG in draft provides good depth on the line
4. Rashad Johnson FS 6-0 187 Alabama – Best FS left on the board can compete with Goldson right away
options
Some options would be DJ Moore (CB), Rashad Johnson (S) or Michael Johnson (DE)
by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
would you feel comfortable with a CB now??
I’d take R Johnson since M johnson went to the bengals
LG
was clearly BPA
I don’t see many good values now…. just 3rd rounders
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Crapola
Cowboys take the best sleeper in this draft with Jason Williams.
Bengals continue to have an A grade draft with Johnson in the 3rd.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
Matt Shaughnessy?
Mayock had him graded as a 6th round talent…interesting.
by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Shaughnessy
I am a little disapointed because, being from Wisconsin, I like Shaughnessy and hoped we would get him or he would go to a really good defense. He has talent but is a little raw. I think he will be wasted in Oakland.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
Short list for 3rd round
OT Jamon Meredith, South Carolina
DE Lawrence Sidbury, Richmond
FS Rashad Johnson, Alabama
RB Andre Brown, N.C. State
RB Rashad Jennings, Liberty
FS Chris Clemons, Clemson
CB D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
crap
Jags just took one of the 4-5 legit NT prospects in Knighton.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
link
I’ll have a link when we get the pick up.
by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
WR options
Scot McCloughan said he wanted to draft 2, possibly 3 WRs here are the best left on my board.
1. Ramses Barden- giant WR at 6’6
2. Brandon Tate – great playmaker with off-field issues
3. Austin Collie- the “Micheal Crabtree” of the Mountain West Conference
4. Patrick Turner- another big WR at 6’5
5. Juaquin Iglesias – had great produnction at a major program
guess he's worth 3rd round money
lol
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
No.... no... no
Andre Brown still on the board and we take Coffee? That guy wasn’t even the best back on his college team.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
Niners...
Consistently buy into “team” hype. Great college team, mediocre player = 49ers pick.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
BOHICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
You got to be sh*ttin me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 2 biggest needs in the draft went unfulfilled, OL and PR.
The team traded away the 2 and 4, which basically boils down to Crabtree, hopefully a decent back up for Gore, and a bunch of flyers in rounds 5 through 7. I got news for you; teams aren’t built on players drafted in those rounds.
They had Everette Brown, 1st round talent right in front of them and let him go. He would’ve provided a pass rush, which the team needs badly from day 1.
Carolina is a solid team that will probably make the playoffs. That means that 1st round draft pick will not be all that high.
This organization NEEDED PLAYERS NOW that could step in and contribute NOW. This is unlikely to happen in more than 3 players tops.
In my opinion, this was a move that the GM made to buy himself some more time before he gets canned and nothing more. Passing a stud pass rusher wasn’t in the teams best interest-that’s for damn sure.
I think this draft guarantees the Niners will be picking in the top 15 next year as the major needs once again weren’t addressed.
With that being said-the tradition in the bay of piss poor draft classes seems to continue and all I can say is BOHICA-BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN.
Coffee
He’s a good player but defiently not the best RB available
he ran behind Andre Smith
I could get 4 YPC running behind Andre Smith every play. I saw Bama games and Ingram > Coffee.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Link up
Just posted a quick report…Plenty more to come
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/4/26/854260/with-the-74th-pick-of-the-nfl
Not sure about that pick. Just wanted to say I love the unis. Came home from being out all day (and finding out we got Crab) saw the pictures and was happy. Mixed about the trade. We also passed on Oher by trading that pick right?
McLouth is The Trouth
Lions drafted Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State
I actually like the Williams pick. He could be a decent WR
barden is a giant
the giants have had a pretty good draft with WR Nicks and barden, lb stintim, and ot beatty
I'm a bit surprised that it was him.
I thought there was a little too little junk in his trunk at 209 lbs. I would’ve expected/hoped for Andre Brown (though he didn’t produce in college like Coffee did).
Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!
Coffee
They’re saying he expects to add 8-10 lbs to his frame…that’d put him at 6-0 close to 220 lbs…a few pounds less than Shonn Greene, a couple more inches.
by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Two relevant quotes
These two nuggets make it clear that this is Singletary’s pick:
Can make defenders miss in the open field, but seems to prefer physically taking them on at times. Lowers his shoulder into the defender and looks to intimidate.
and
Has been a weight room monster since high school. Has matured during his college career, and is now a faith-driven leader and sought-after speaker in the community.
Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!
Lol
Mike Nolan just drafted a punter in the 5th! I wonder if he thinks that P stands for Nose Tackle.
Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!
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