With the 74th pick of the NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:36 AM PDT
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And so we have somebody to spell Frank Gore, maybe. With their third round pick, the San Francisco 49ers selected Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama. He was not as highly touted as Andre Brown (at least for some people), but Maiocco thought this might be the pick (if not Andre Brown). Here's a quick scouting report:
ESPN: Runs hard and flashes ability to bounce off arm tackles. Runs with excellent forward body lean and almost always falls forward but doesn't appear to have ideal lower body strength and is going to have a difficult time pushing the pile in short-yardage situations. Doesn't always keep ball tight to frame and can put it on the ground as a result . . .
Draft Countdown: Has a large frame with room to bulk up...Nice vision and instincts...Is physical and runs hard...Real decisive and attacks the hole...Excellent strength...Tough, powerful and always falls forward...Terrific work ethic.
Needs to add more weight, especially in his lower body...Not very elusive or nifty...Stiff and doesn't change directions well...Goes down too easy...Not a workhorse...Limited experience.
Maiocco just posted some info from the conference call with Coffee:
Coffee said he is excited about becoming a teammate of Frank Gore, whose style he admires. Coffee describes himself as a pounder - a player who would rather "run over you" than try to run away from defenders. "I'm passionate and I love contact," he said.
Coffee said he believes playing for Nick Saban at Alabama will help him in his transition to the NFL. "He's the best coach to play under," Coffee said. "I feel prepared very well for the NFL."
Some YouTube video after the jump.
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Coffee
I posted over at Roll Bama Roll (our Alabama blog) to get their thoughts on Coffee.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 7:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know...
… the kid is a hardnosed runner when he has a lineman’s facemask, lol.
by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good kid...
But I don’t want to see character picks with the 2nd pick of the draft and our only pick before round 5. I can see him getting around 3 YPC since he doesn’t waste much time in the backfield laterally, but there were potential NFL starters on the board (esp. Andre Brown) that somehow graded lower.
Coffee simply isn’t explosive enough in the lower body to get out of the backfield consistently IMO. Hope he proves me wrong though, but he’s a decent complimentary back at this point and COULD develop into more.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a fan of this pick
Especially since we don’t have another pick until round 5. I got pretty smashed yesterday, and was very very happy with Crab being a Niner, it still doesn’t feel real to me.
Plus we get Carolina’s 2010 1st rounder. Awesome. Perhaps the Niners are able to dangle a 2010 3rd rounder for a 4th and 5th today. I’d say make it happen.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
guess this is where we're supposed to trust the management?
just based off of what I’ve read, I’m not sure why you’d pick Glen Coffee ahead of Andre Brown, or even ahead of Rashad Jennings for that matter (two other power running backs who seemed to have more upside)
of course, I’m basing this solely on little clips I’ve read haphazardly over the last 6 months or so, so what do I know?
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 8:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that's my thought
Maybe they’ve blown this pick, but they’ve obviously watched plenty of tape of both Coffee and Brown. I’m sure there are folks who will not give them the benefit of the doubt.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing I like about Coffee
he doesn’t have a lot of college carries on his frame. he’s got a lot of room to improve, where as a Rashad Jennings is almost peaked in terms of ability. Atleast, that’s what we have to trust, yeah.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the
only time I saw coffee play was the Bama bowl game where Bama laid down on the bed. My thoughts from that game were 1) Bama sucks 2) coffee is the only player making an effort and standing out at all.
who knows maybe it works. or it doesnt
by save10 on Apr 26, 2009 8:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I trust in this pick
they obviously really liked him and knew he’d be gone by the 5th.
by 49ersCAN on Apr 26, 2009 8:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
curious about
when the safety gets taken (Rashad Johnson is still on the board), our edge rusher (whose left?), and OT (Jamon Meredith is around)?
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
all that matters ...
OT Jamon Meredith, FS Rashad Johnson, and pass rusher Lawrence Sidbury are all NOT going to be there going into the beginning of round 5
speaks a little to our placing some confidence in Goldson & M. Smith
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meredith or Johnson
I think they are worth a 2010 3rd rounder to get into round 4 to land either guy if he’s there in round 4.
If the team can get a 4th and 6th for next year’s 3rd, I’d take it. Especially if it meant getting Meredith or Johnson.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roll Bama Roll comments
Over on Roll Bama Roll I posted the following:
What do you folks think of Glen Coffee? He is being brought in to be a complementary back to Frank Gore. So he won’t be starting or getting the bulk of carries. What are your thoughts on Coffee in this kind of role?
I’ll post responses here as they come in.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
First response
He’s a good, physically pounding runner, and he would probably do well to platoon with Gore. He’s not the explosive kind of runner that Gore is, but he can extend Gore’s career by taking some of the carries, and he can give you some solid production.
And beyond that, I think he just fits with what Singletary wants. He’s a good kid, very tough, who will work hard.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second response
i’ll leave the technical commentary to the guys, but i can tell you that glen is a very determined young man. he made a concious decision last summer and publicly claimed the season he was going to have BEFORE summer practice began. the niners have selected a diamond in the rough that will soon shine in whatever opportunity he is given.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“diamond in the rough” who gets the smaller part of a platoon with Gore … if Michael Robinson or Thomas Clayton weren’t going to be able to fill this role, we absolutely needed someone who could
otherwise we were almost guaranteeing a worn down, over-used, likely injured Frank Gore for the last third of the season
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just not quite clear why this guy is an upgrade over Robinson/Clayton
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
another thing about this pick that bothers me ...
going into this draft, I was really thinking in terms of -
1) we need to shore up on a solid/safe offensive tackle
2) we really really really need a pash rusher
& 3) a strengthened secondary would be my third priority – (i.e. – someone to compete with either Dashon Goldson for FS or Walt Harris for CB)
Now we are looking at the 5th round, and we have addressed 0 of these needs …
yes, by some freak occurance (thank you Al Davis) a great value in Michael Crabtree just fell to us (and by the end of the season, he may even rank #1 in front of Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, Josh Morgan, Jason Hill, Arnaz Battle, & Dominique Ziegler) – sounds sweet to me
yes, we now have a second first round pick in 2010 in a stronger draft – sweet
so #1 was exciting, & having some powerback/Coffee (instead of Brown or Jennings) to take some of the load off of Gore in an increased running game sounds wise
but our unaddressed needs are nagging away at me – guess we are really seeing the “take the best player available” philosophy in action as opposed to drafting to fill your needs philosophy – let’s start praying that Marvel Smith has his first healthy year in 3 years
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 8:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pass rusher
I still think pass rusher is an overrated need. The pass rush wasn’t great but we’ll be getting a full season of Haralson and potentially new technique from Lawson.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think pass rusher is an overrated need.
Well, looks like Singletary and McCloughan agree with you.
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think a good NT was the most underrated need. I’m fine with Smith, Haralson and Lawson getting the bulk of the snaps at the OLB spots, but I’d feel a lot better about the ability of Haralson and others to get to the QB if we had found an upgrade over Franklin/Sopoaga at the NT this offseason. I know there wasn’t really a guy there in the 1st round after Raji was off the board, but I feel like not much of an effort was made to somehow improve our ability to get after the QB this offseason when it was pretty clear we didn’t do it very well last year.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the good NT prospects are gone now.
Brace, Vaughn Martin, Knighton, Sammie Lee Hill, and others who were supposed to last longer. No NT this year.
by MontanaPass on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Fooch
I feel a little better about the pick
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pick
I definitely see why people are disappointed with the pick. But I also think it’s worth seeing how it plays out (the RB pick). I do think there are still several needs that need to be addressed. Curious to see what the rest of the draft brings.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coffee VS. RINGER
I’m a little shocked that Singletary, having a GREAT DRAFT, didn’t take JAVON RINGER!!! I feel that Ringer is just that “a ringer.”
Nevertheless!!! Coffee is solid but I simply would of taken an experienced Ringer, he was up for the Heisman, not that it matters, but could easily become a big name player, not to mention a big time play maker…
49ERS!!!!!!!! WHOOT!!!!!!!!
- Houston, Texas
by SUFFER on Apr 26, 2009 8:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ringer
has a lot of college carries, and consider at his peak. You never want a guy with a lot of carries on his body that’s already at his max. Coffee has a lot of upside, and I like the pick better than I would Ringer. I don’t think Ringer will have any sort of relevance in the NFL. Don’t get me wrong, he was a great college back, but he’s got so many carries and won’t be able to run over NFL sized players.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS
I think that Singletary is showing some Foresight with Coffee and is going to change Coffee’s mentality with the new 49ers “Old School” Culture. He’ll work on Coffee’s weaknesses, Lower Body Power, etc…, and make Gore Coffee’s Mentor… Maybe in 2 years Coffee will be starting, maybe sooner or maybe someone to eventually trade after going through the 49ers System, we’ll see.
by SUFFER on Apr 26, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants
Having him AND Nicks gives them two serious young guns
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think of our WR Corps v.s Giants
Riddle me that please!!!!
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have a better one
More athletes, younger, and deeper.
I’ll take our 1/2 over theirs, but from 3-6 they are better.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ranking their WRs
They’ve got a lot of young names, but I think the 49ers bring equally young WRs and there is a lot of talent there (in SF).
Who exactly are the #1s on each team is one question to be answered as well. Bruce was the #1 last year but is expected to come off the bench this year….
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theyve also got Eli Manning throwing them the ball. Eli Manning>Shalex Hith
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nit a good pick
with Ringer on the board and a few other RB’s and passing up on a player in the mold of Jason Peters, being Meredith was a TE, is baffling
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agree on Ringer
i would have been happier with Jamon Meredith at OT but i like Coffee a lot
although I agree on Ringer, think we could have landed him in the 5th round possibly too…or traded up into the 4th to grab him
by boondockHEEL on Apr 26, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Patriot strike again
Their picks make sense and their draft approach makes sense maybe we should take notes
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two words.
Mental Toughness.
That video showed me why Singletary wanted this guy, he’s a hard hitting, God fearing, pound the rock kind of runner.
Though I didnt know anything about this guy till now, I’m happy we got him still.
Plus, he seems the personality that will mesh with Frank well.
by Poundtherock on Apr 26, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I’d rather get a RB early like this then wait the whole 4th round and maybe not get anything of quality. But I agree with you, we might have gotten him later.
by Poundtherock on Apr 26, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else...
Really annoyed by that “I’m a dreamer” rap song they keep playing?!
by Poundtherock on Apr 26, 2009 8:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
seems sort of like a racist stereotype to me …
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
but louis vasquez, yes!
graham in round 7 wouldn’t be too bad either, I guess.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smashmouth, baby!
Coffee’s a terrific compliment to Gore – mentally tough, busts through holes, and strong as hell. This will be a fearsome offense if everyone remains healthy.
by MondayMorningMontana on Apr 26, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Update
Threw up a few Coffee quotes from Maiocco’s blog.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Patriots, Dolphins, and Bengals
Are dominating this draft right now.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dolphins? No.
Pat White, meh. Turner, horrible pick.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in what world?
They got the best two press corners in this draft and Pat White fits their offensive scheme perfectly. They needed a possession WR and Turner is that guy.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turner was lousy at USC
And their draft looks even worse now. It’s a mediocre draft them.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
basically ...
give us either a sleeper offensive tackle, safety or cornerback in the next 5 picks that will turn out to be somewhat productive this season and I’ll chalk down this draft to a success
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Harrell or Reilly wouldn't be bad late either!!
OT,S,QB, and NT
Not in that order but Sammie Lee Hill is still on the board
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
athletes
By the 5th round, athletic football players will be off of the board. CB/FS’s aren’t found in rounds 5/6/7, those are special teamers.
There are still some sleepers at NT, OT, and OG available. Other than that, I think we’re walking away from this draft with the entire weight of the draft on Michael Crabtree and that 1st round pick next year.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
other than that?
I think if the 49ers got some talent at NT, OT and/or OG, as well as a QB, I don’t think the entire weight is on Crabtree and the #1.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
NT/OG/OT are where value can still be found. Any QB from here out is going to be a 3rd stringer and long-term project.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Apr 26, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job McCloughan
way to fill the 49ers needs
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Have to see how he closes
Especially with trading out of THIS draft!! Jury is still out!
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think trading out of this draft...
… and into the first round of the next draft was awesome. The talent level of next year’s first round, at least for QBs, will probably be worlds deeper than this year’s.
by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
needs
It wasn’t the #1 need obviously, but they’ve stated they wanted to add a running back this offseason to take the heavy load off Gore. So need filled.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t consider RB a need(more of a want)
I really think the 49ers really hurt there chances at winning the division.
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After the smoke clears from the draft
We’ll be able to take a better look at free agency. Where are our big ticket items? Crabtree? That’s it. Aside from that, we have some cash to spend on players that have proven themselves. The draft is always a crap shoot even with #1s…
by dartdart on Apr 26, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Tickets??
We left them in next year’s draft. Darius Butler and Rashad Johnson would have been big at 2 and 3. Then at 4 our Rb Would have still been there!!
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sick right now.
I can understand Crabtree. But giving up valuable picks for next year because no one was Worthy?
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Stafford
Talking about the tough times of a 9-4 season at Georgia his freshman year. This should be interesting.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1st Predictions
We traded away our top ten defense, I guess we can wait for it. Not picking Darius Butler and Rashad Johnson will haunt us.
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The overreaction here is amazing
From Scouts Inc.’s pick-by-pick analysis:
10. (74) San Francisco 49ers
The pick: Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama
What he brings: Coffee is a tough downhill runner who does a good job finishing his runs. He shows good patience and does a nice job letting his blockers get into strong position. However, Coffee doesn’t show an elite burst and we have questions for his ability to hit the home run.
How he fits: We really like this pick for a team that has already picked a playmaker in receiver Michael Crabtree. Coffee will provide quality depth behind Frank Gore. He is a no-nonsense, downhill runner who plays bigger than his size. This pick will give the 49ers a second back in what has become a two-back league.
by Saustown on Apr 26, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Never said he was a bad pick
I’m speaking of what we passed on trading picks he would have been there at 4.
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like I said, I just don’t see how he is as big of an upgrade over Thomas/Robinson as some other guys on the board woulda been at other spots.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a leagues above Robinson AND thomas, are you serious??
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson isnt a good RB sure he's a niner and we root for him but don't kid yourself, this kid could be abetter goaline back than Gore
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm....
this kid could be abetter goaline back than Gore
what are you basing this on? I don’t claim to know a whole lot about this kid, but the scouts clearly disagree with you
doesn’t appear to have ideal lower body strength and is going to have a difficult time pushing the pile in short-yardage situations
Seems like I’m not the one kidding myself.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Runs hard and flashes ability to bounce off arm tackles. Runs with excellent forward body lean and almost always falls forward but doesn’t appear to have ideal lower body strength and is going to have a difficult time pushing the pile in short-yardage situations. Doesn’t always keep ball tight to frame and can put it on the ground as a result . . .
Draft Countdown: Has a large frame with room to bulk up…Nice vision and instincts…Is physical and runs hard…Real decisive and attacks the hole…Excellent strength…Tough, powerful and always falls forward…Terrific work ethic.
Needs to add more weight, especially in his lower body…Not very elusive or nifty…Stiff and doesn’t change directions well…Goes down too easy…Not a workhorse…Limited experience.
That sounds like it could be the exact scouting report for Robinson if he were in this years draft as a RB. And I just really want to see Clayton finally get some regular season snaps.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's great and all...
but when are we going to address the O-line?
by Spencer L on Apr 26, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
obviously we’re relying a little heavier on Marvel Smith than I thought we were
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
with our 4th round pick the Panthers took A&M RB Mike Goodson.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blowing it
Rashad Johnson at safety should have been the pick. at 3. We could have gotten a compimentary RB in FA — even like an Edgerrin James! — IF Clayton didn’t work out. Meanwhile, our true needs continue to be ignored.
I’m sorry to say it, because I respected the guy before yesterday even with his previous mediocre drafts, and taking Smith and Balmer at 1 in previous years — I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt — Scott Mac is out of his league. He can’t compete on draft day with the veteran horse traders and better scouting systems in the NFL. I predict this will be his last draft. He has set the Niners back a long way by not addressing needs with very good prospects.
And by the way, we don’t know that 2 number 1s automatically translate into getting a great QB next year in the draft. If they are that great, the team sitting there will take the guy.
More importantly, QB is NOT our most pressing need. Hill did a very good job in an insane situation last year — he went from first string to seond string to first string, 1 head coaches, 2 offensive coordinators and two rookie wide outs, one who were injured mid year. Never played with Bruce before. Gore gets injured. Our Oline was a mess at RT and Staley was / is in transition at LT. HOW MANY QBs DO YOU KNOW COULD HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT? Hill is good and he’s a leader. He’d take NE or the Giants to the Super Bowl. He’d do fine in Miami. Get off the QB thing!
We need a DEFENSE that can play against a playoff team like NE, the Giants, Eagles, Dallas even. We can’t hang with them at all. We looked pathetic last year against good teams like that..
We need a pass rush, and a really great safety that isn’t injury prone. Those needs could have been addressed in THIS draft by taking:
Sincim in round 2 (the Giants took him right after us),
Rashad Johnson at 3
and NT Dorrel Scott at 4.
With Crabtree ar 1, THAT would have been a draft that made sense.
by Since79 on Apr 26, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no our OLB's ar fine
LB’s as well
Darius Butler and Rashad Johnson and we’re a better defense potential top ten. And the 1st round picks are for the USC Safety not a QB
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, that makes more sense.
and wouldn’t it even more sense to trade our #2 for their #2 and #4 or 5 this year. McC give up the farm this year. Bad deal!
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Yet
I agree, Mcc could have done a lot better, but we still have four picks left, and although they are in the last rounds, you never know what could still be left. I don’t think it’s safe to assume McC has blown it just yet. We’ve only picked twice.
I also agree about the QB situation, but Hill is definitely NOT our Franchise QB, same with Smith and the guy we picked up from KC. But with two first rounders and a lot of potentially great QB’s next year, you have to think it may be on the top of their list as a pick.
Now all the niners need to do is to boost the men in the trenches and secondary, with these last few picks, and they won’t be off that bad.
by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not over yet
The trouble I have is we could have had some talented players this year. No doubt that Crabtree is a starter but we needed more front line players. I only hope that Franklin,Lawson,Moore and Williams will be Healthy and start this year or we’re back to last year.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think McC screwed up big when he only took the 2010 1st rounder, in exchange for two this year. We should have gotten at least another fifth or something. Now we have to sit here as all these good defense players pass us.
And something tells me that about half the players you mentioned are going to be injured at one point or another next season.
by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not hurt, but certainly not used.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moore
Moore is one guy I was high on when we took him a couple years ago. This is probably his last chance, but I am highly intrigued by what he could do in the pass rush. Maybe nothing, but he was a talented DE at Nebraska and could be a solid situational OLB. We’ll see if he can even stay healthy.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think I’ve seen him been given that much of a chance. Either that or he just hasn’t been that productive.
by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday, I posted that I had a bottle of the bubblies and a can of soup
and I was ready to pop open the bottle until that trade. Now, I crying in my soup. This is an example of how I feel about losing thoses two picks.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coffee...
…was our most complete back last year and I think he’ll do well in the NFL as a “second” back. He’s physical enough to be a between the tackles runner and follows blocks very well, plus he’s an excellent pass catcher out of the backfield and was our back as far as pass protection goes. There are some concerns with his break away speed, but he’s solid enough to be very productive and keep the chains moving. We actually ran his “success rate” numbers, a la Football Outsiders, and found that he ran at a 59% rate, which would have been tied with Deuce McAllister for 2nd in the NFL. He split a lot of time with Mark Ingram (more of a power runner) at Alabama, though, so he’s not a workhorse grinder, but still, I think y’all have a solid pick here.
by Todd on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But is he a priority?
. Wouldn’t you consider him a project player? 3rd stringer right now. What about the OL. you got to have holes to run through.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
depth chart
I’d imagine the 49ers see him as the primary backup ahead of Robinson and Clayton.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Clayton, only if he can stay healty.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just for the record, todd and i are Bama fans trying to provide insight about the player you just selected. one we think rather highly of, i might add. so while we might be able to provide some insight into how he will fit in your system, we really cannot address the overall sutability of the pick given the particular situation of your team.
by kleph on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly wouldn't. consider him a project player
He’s had three different offensive co-ordinators in as many years, so picking up a new scheme shouldn’t be that difficult for him, and I think he has the physical tools to be a productive backup to Gore right away. I don’t necessarily know if he’s a PRIORITY for y’all as far as need positions go (don’t follow the NFL as much as I used to), so you may have a gripe there.
by Todd on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just checked our mock draft contest, and I have to say that wjackalope really is a big stupid jerkhead.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Until further notice, I just have to assume that it’s NFATP
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just have to say we ALL kinda sucked. Especially Fooch and “draft expert” Briandean! :)
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mine was awful
I’m still not sure why I had Tyson Jackson so low. Also, while I did struggle, I did project an unexpected player falling to us (Raji). So I think that deserves like a quarter point since an unexpected player did fall to us.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think i finished around 5th or 6th, but it was really nothing to brag about, I think I only got a handful of picks correct. I’m surprised nobody had the Tyson Jackson at 3/Curry at 4/Mark Sanchez at 5 combo since that started popping up like that in a lot of “expert” mocks I saw on Friday.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mc Coughln is pitiful
He blew us away with Crabtree should have followed all defense though
D butler-CB
R Johnson-SS
S Lee Hill -NT
RB he chose would still be here
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Butler?
Are you saying he should have traded up to get Butler? Butler went 2 spots ahead of where the 49ers pick.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But E. Brown was available ar 43. Bait for more trade consideration? Been done before.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brown
If I had McCloughan in front of me I’d definitely want to know why the 49ers (and apparently some other teams) were not as high on Brown as fans were. There has to be some reason he went from projected to #10 down to a second round pick.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN said yesterday it was his height. I think he was initially listed at 6’4" but measured at just over 6’1". I don’t know if that made THAT much difference, but it was probably part of it.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, if I lost three inches off my listed height, I’d be 5’4".
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea I mean obviously 6’4" to 6’1" is a significant difference but did teams really think his listed college height was his real height? I’m assuming most teams assumed he was 6’2" or 6’3" prior to the combine and were probably a bit disappointed he was an inch and a half shorter than that. I know “football is a game of inches” but I never though they meant it like that.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok ... make sure and watch the above youtube video ...
Do you know what we’ve drafted this year? – attitude – We’ve drafted physical with an F.
After watching that video, I like the Coffee pick a lot more. The kid obviously has heart. Preferring to go through instead of around a blocker, being proud of his scars, having a favorite verse that he applies to football about getting all Biblical on the defender’s ass reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction.
One thing I’ll give Crabtree, I didn’t want to draft him, but I started to like him more and more as he kept getting passed up – I’m not sure how his attitude could have been better – they kept asking him “how do you feel about not being taken yet?” – and he just kept with the same response – “now I can’t wait to actually play these teams.” Just saying that during picks 7-9 might have been enough to win Singletary over.
I feel like we haven’t really met our most pressing needs, but I like the spirit that we’re getting with these guys. You can see how this is becoming more and more Mike Singletary’s team. I’m interesting in giving this whole thing a chance.
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you know what we’ve drafted this year? – attitude – We’ve drafted physical with an F.
After watching that video, I like the Coffee pick a lot more. The kid obviously has heart. Preferring to go through instead of around a blocker, being proud of his scars, having a favorite verse that he applies to football about getting all Biblical on the defender’s ass reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction.
Yeah, but none of that makes him good.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gartrell to the Chargers
I like that pickup for the Chargers. A bruiser to go with LDT and Sproles.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been angry since last year!!!
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been angry since about 1998.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops
i posted an unneccesary fanshot.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can keep or delete
I believe you can go in and delete it if you want. FanShot’s don’t clutter as much as FanPosts.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm almost afraid to jinx it
but is anyone else nervous about who may be available at our next pick?
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep Dropping
I really want Meredith to fall to us. I love the guy’s attitude and I think he could be excellent in a couple of years.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
After the Draft is over
I wonder how Mgt will be graded. Wil McC be considered the Hero or the Goat?
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That will mak McC look half genious
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the 215lb+ RB bruiser?
Coffee isn’t that back
by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
6' 209
he’ll be able to add some weight before the regular season, no?
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
weight
In response to this and Dre’s reply, Coffee says he’ll be putting on 8-10 lbs…puts him at close to 220
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently he also is a guy described as playing bigger than he is. i love that quote he gave about how he’d prefer to run over a guy than run around him. sounds like the right mentality for a third down back
by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leroy Hill is now a free agent!
So, I’ll admit to not being too knowledgeable about the guy, given I wasn’t expecting him to be free…anybody know if Leroy Hill might make sense for our team? I know he’s considered to have a lot of potential as a pass rusher, but he’d be too expensive as a pash rush specialist…
by karltwo on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
leroy had 7.5 sacks his rookie year
no more than 3 in a season since.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that
But, I keep hearing about how it’s been injury and the seahawks just not blitzing him (though, I guess the same could be said for Lawson to some extent), i.e.: “Seattle underused him as a blitzer, but he could consistently contribute 5-10 sacks. He’s very quick and agile and though not indestructible as a tackler, punishing.”
by karltwo on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hear ya
i guess the main question is. how much is he worth?
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FanShot
I threw up a FanShot about it. Not sure if they’d invest money in a guy who’d be platooning with Lawson and Haralson (although maybe that’s a poor assumption on my part).
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/4/26/854235/seahawks-remove-franchise-tag-from
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how you felt about him before.
by LASVEGASNINER on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
at least one good one on the board
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping Meredith falls to us.
by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be a hell of a pick – i hope he’s there
by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN says of Meredith
“Plays with an edge”
That sounds like a Singletary type of guy to me
by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha Bears take Johnny Knox(ville) I hear he’s not afraid to take some physical punishment.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Music
In the background you can hear “Free-Fallin” playing. I’m guessing they were wise not to play that in the first round for players dropping from projections.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bengals drafted a punter
“because punters are people too”- Rich Eisen
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!
The first punter/kicker goes to Cincinnati!
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jacksonville will spoit it for us!!
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but they already drafted two OTs, right?
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The took Monroe in the first and Britton in the third – that’d really be a lot of tackles in one draft
by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I thought they drafted Monroe…
by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Later 5th round pick
The pick later in the 5th could be at OLB where there should be a couple of intruging guys still available.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys trade up
There goes our OT
by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there are 2 good OL sitting there
I will not state names.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamie Dukes
He REALLY doesn’t like special teams players…
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just want to call myself out for suggesting Duke Robinson with pick 2
GM, I am not
by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Packers already took an OT also
they took TJ Lang (good run blocker) in the fourth – he’s the second tier guy I wanted but oh well
by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We can’t be looking anywhere other than Jamon Meredith, can we?
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OLB
I could see them going OLB eventhough I don’t think thats the right pick
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BPA! BPA! BPA! BPA!
That would be OL in this case I think.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remind me
What does BPA mean?
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
best player available
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah now I feal really stupid
thanks
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will have a link up shortly after the pick is made
And obviously will post it here
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa - I didn't think that would happen
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meredith could have easily gone in the 3rd round
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
should take 30 seconds
to get the card in.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Scotty Mac
Do the right thi8ng!!!
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Very intrigued
Maiocco thinks maybe QB, Barrows mentioned some ILBs
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it safe to talk names now
lol
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Meridith or it's McCloughan's head
………..on a hate inspired poster
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HUH?
Who is this guy?
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Still yet to fill a need
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That filled a need, we needed depth at that position
by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depth?
Teams want depth
they don’t need it
http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com
by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We only have three ILB
And two are known for getting injured every year
by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Developed into a vocal leader of the Panthers’ defense on and off the field. Extremely hard worker.
I’m guessing thats why
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have thoughts on this guy?
Pro-dog. Anti-Vick. In every way.
by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
never heard of him
why no Meredith?
this is strange isn’t it?
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookie most likely to get picked on by the vets
by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't get it.
LBs would have been available later in the 5th.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe
by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t get passing on Meredith….but I guess every other GM has at least once by now so….
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Does management want an OT?
I don’t understand the apparent lack of urgency in getting one. They must really think Marvel Smith’s back is in good shape. I don’t get it.
by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here you go
Got a post up with a scouting report.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/4/26/854561/with-the-146th-pick-of-the-nfl
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
McKillop is a good pick
As a WVU fan, I’ve had to deal with McKillop at Pitt for the last few years. He is a steller LB who will give us much needed depth. And if we stay in the 3-4, after Takeo leaves, he will be a good player to have lined up next to Willis.
I know some of you guys haven’t heard of him, but IMO, he’s a good pick up, especially in the 5th round.
by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This means............
no Gartrell now, right?
:( :( :( :( :(
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He is Charger
Draft 2009 = Complete Failure
by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so – that’d be a lot of running backs for a team that has Frank Gore
by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McKillop
Scotty’s irish bias is showing
by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kiper is talking McKillop up
Maybe irish bias is a good thing
by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I mentioned Shaun Rogers and Peppers in a comment yesterday
Does anbody know if the Rogers/Mangini sitituation has blown over? I like him over Peppers. If either trade was there for the taking ( 1 first rounder, and maybe a third) would you pull the trigger?
by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
1st and a 3rd seems like a bit much for Rogers….I’d give the lower of our 2 1st rounders next year. I think a big NT like Rogers would make a huge difference on our D.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buccaneers go OT
But It’s not Meredith
by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Falcons go OT
But it’s not Meredith, What are we missing?
by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently ESPN is going to fill their entire “Brett Favre/T.O. and the Cowboys” void with Mark Sanchez
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN
So glad I’ve stuck with the NFL Network for the entire draft. Although I flipped over to ESPN and got the classic Mel Kiper montage video.
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erin Andrew is the only thing you’re missing and there hasn’t been nearly enough of her today.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
Andrew is the only highlight. other than that, ESPN’s bias is no fun
Check my 49ers blogs at Mining the Gold Rush and San Francisco 49ers Examiner
by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really can’t watch any more Sanchez stories.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t care if we have coffee. draft jennings out of liberty
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conversation
For those wondering where everybody is, the conversation has mostly moved into the McKillop thread. We’ll be there until the 49ers 5th round comp pick:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/4/26/854561/with-the-146th-pick-of-the-nfl
by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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