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With the 146th pick of the NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Scott McKillop, ILB, Pittsburgh

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Well, that certainly qualifies as a bit of a head scratcher, but I guess not surprising for a Mike Singletary team?  With the 146th pick here in the 5th round, the San Francisco select Scott McKillop, inside linebacker from Pittsburgh.  Here's a scouting report for the folks who (like me) don't know about Scott McKillop (from late January):

Strengths: An incredibly productive two-year starter who has the intelligence and savvy to make an NFL roster. Did well adjusting himself and teammates before the snap. Very intelligent football player who likes watching film and learning. Fundamentally sound player. By-the-book tackler. Good size. Was one of Pittsburgh’s team leaders. Does a nice job breaking up passes. Had 11 pass breakups over his final two seasons.

Weaknesses: McKillop will be overlooked because he’s not especially fast or athletic. Is too slow to get around the corner on a pass rush. Slow from time to time reacting to passes. Poor hands. Needs to get stronger in his lower body to handle bigger NFL running backs. Struggles at times shedding blockers.

Final word: What you see with McKillop is what you’ll get. He was a product middle linebacker for the Panthers who knows the fundamentals of the game. While he’s limited athletically, he makes up for it in determination and intelligence. Named a first-team all-conference member each of his two years starting.

After the jump I found a Pitt promo video on YouTube.

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He does sound like a Singletary guy

by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like this pick for us.

As a WVU fan, I’ve had to deal with McKillop at Pitt for the last few years. He is a steller LB who will give us much needed depth. And if we stay in the 3-4, after Takeo leaves, he will be a good player to have lined up next to Willis.

I know some of you guys haven’t heard of him, but IMO, he’s a good pick up, especially in the 5th round. Not the most gifted athlete in the world, but is VERY tough and has a great football IQ. Definitely a Singletary type of player.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He sounds...

… like a player who could develop into a very solid TED. He’s supposedly a little weak at the point, but he sounds physical enough to where maybe he can be taught some technique to effective hold the point of attack for Willis. He definitely sounds like a smart enough player to do that.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

we drafted grit and hustle.

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by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Academically, he was an Honor Roll and National Science Merit Award winner, along with being a member of the Pride Club, German Club and Wrestling Club.

Sounds like an interesting cat, at least. How many people on your HS football team were on the German club?

by Grant on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we didn’t have a German club. :(

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I imagine German Clubs are a lot more common in Western Pennsylvania than in California.

by VidaWantsYourCar on Apr 26, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was the president of the German Club!

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by cornball on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems like we are

drafting based on scheme/philosophy and not BPA.

Crabtree yes, but Coffee and now McKillop, they couldn’t be the BPA at the slots they were picked.

I’m not saying I’m absolutely mad, but I think Meredith would’ve been a great selection, hoping McKillop drops to next pick.

But if Scot is giving Mike guys that he wants, in terms of specific attributes, then I’m ok with the selections. I just hope they know something we don’t about Meredith.

by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You generally draft...

… on BPA in the early rounds (one and maybe two). In the later rounds, the players are so close together, especially in the fifth, that you can afford to draft for scheme and/or need.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like it

when you could have gotten Meredith to develop and gotten a gritty linebacker later in the 5th such as McKillop or OLB Follett.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm...

Its never good when a guy has to make up for a lack of athletic ability. I’d like to hear that he at least has some upside athletic potential.

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by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When is our next pick?

It’s in the 5th, right?

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

35th this round

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overall number?

Maybe they think Meredith will drop to us at the next pick. Seems like wishful thinking, but maybe they know something we don’t.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very wishful

You’d better pray for that.

I meant 35th this round. it’s 171th overall.

by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bomar with the 5.35,

anyone?

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

I’d rather see us take a chance on N. Davis if we do get a QB here. Anyone else?

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With two firsts in next year's draft...

… it makes it a little less likely they’ll consider a QB. But I guess if they like Davis or whomever enough, it doesn’t hurt to bring in someone that can eventually back up whomever their next #1 is (or maybe even luck out and find a diamond in the rough).

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From www.nfldraftscout.com

Overall Projected Rnd: 4

Enters his senior year holding status as one of the nation’s finest defensive players … a candidate for the Butkus Award, Bednarik Award, Bronko Nagurski Trophy and Rotary Lombardi Award … paced the entire country in tackles, averaging 12.58 per game, and ranked second in solos (8.17 avg.) … was the centerpiece of one of Pitt’s finest defensive units in recent memory … the Panthers finished fifth nationally in total defense, yielding just 297.67 yards per game … named to four different All-American squads at season’s end, including Scout.com (first team), Sports Illustrated (second team), CollegeFootballNews.com (second team) and The Associated Press (third team) … named the Big East Defensive Player of the Year by CollegeFootballNews.com … McKillop finished with 151 total tackles, perhaps none bigger than his effort to stop West Virginia’s Steve Slaton on a 4th-and-3 situation late in the fourth quarter of Pitt’s 13-9 upset of the Mountaineers … 2006: 12 GP; 0 GS; 18 Sol-29 TT, 2 TFL, 1 SK, 1 PBU, 1 QBH; Primary backup at middle linebacker … compiled a career-high 29 tackles on the season … 2005: 11 GP; 0 GS; 13 Sol-27 TT; In his first active collegiate season, lettered as the chief backup at middle linebacker … played in all 11 games and had 27 tackles on the season … saw his most extensive playing time at middle linebacker when Blades went down with an early injury at West Virginia … McKillop came on in relief and collected a career-high 13 stops versus the Mountaineers … 2004: Redshirted as a true freshman …

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

to borrow a slogan from los gigantes….this guy is a gamer

by cazzuno on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

… a candidate for the Bupkis Award …

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meredith

Just ran across this, and this note jumps out at me:

Weaknesses:
May be a bit of a ‘tweener…Needs to be more tough and physical…Not real stout at the point of attack…Mediocre initial punch…Doesn’t get a great push in the run game…Poor hand use…Not a finisher and lacks a killer instinct…Questionable awareness…Is not a fit for every scheme.

That’s a pretty good reason not to draft him I suppose.

by Andrew Davidson on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mel thinks

Mel seems to like the pick for whatever thats worth.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

makes me like the pick more, especially with the combine results he mentioned. 4.7 is better than rey rey ran at the combine. 27 reps is pretty darn strong and 35 in vertical—thats pretty impressive.
he seems like a good fit for the future at the TED.

but i still like jasper brinkley better…

by gogoldenbears on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

You know I still don’t like it because of who they didn’t take but having a more hard nosed Ulbrich type with more ability could be good for this defense. We have all talked about needing someone that will embrace the role of second fiddle to Willis.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ulbrich 2.0

He only has a few years left and was productive for the team.

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bomar just picked

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

boo

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously?

You’re only making yourself look foolish.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How so?

He would of selected Crabtree

http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com

by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

would of ???

would have???

would’ve ?

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Millen v. McCloughan

In his time in Detroit Millen drove that franchise into the ground. McCloughan hasn’t gotten the 49ers to the playoffs but he (and Nolan in some regards) have gotten the team out of salary cap hell and added talented players. There have been some questionable picks and some bad picks, but I’m willing to give him a lot more benefit of the doubt than Millen.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are you guys

dissing McC, can’t you wait until the season starts and we see these players before you guys start calling for his head?

I mean, really.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I am not enamoured with the draft but I think it could be a lot worse. If all we did was get the 1st or 2nd prospect in the draft it would be worth at least a C.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

supraman and LASVEGAS act like we didn’t get good players with the last two picks. And saying McC is worse than Millon is beyond retarded. Would McC have drafted Charles Rogers or Mike Williams had they been available? I think not.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Now

Don’t you freakin jinx us now!!!!

Not funny, we just drafted a 1st Rnd WR

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Williams...

… definitely not (lack of separation creation ability and overall speed). Rogers? I think quite a few people had Rogers high that year, didn’t they?

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, calm down

Little too much coffee this morning. We are doing fine.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They haven't filled what YOU feel is a real need.

But they are getting good players. Also we will have a stronger draft in 2010 which is going to be a better draft.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think McKillop’s summary over at www.draftcountdown.com is hilarious …

Strengths:
Adequate size … Great instincts and awareness … Good tackler … Decent range and moves well laterally … Is super tough … Competitive and intense … Has a terrific motor … Smart with an outstanding football IQ … A hard worker and team leader … Was extraordinarily productive.

Weaknesses:
Not a great athlete … Average speed … Needs to get stronger … Struggles when forced to take on and shed blockers … Lacks fluid hips … Takes some poor angles … Sub par hands and ball skills in coverage … Can be too aggressive at times … Is not a great pass rusher … Upside is limited.

Notes:
His brother Chris was a defensive lineman at Pitt from 2003-07 … A two-year starter who backed up current Washington Redskin H.B. Blades early in his college career … Twice named first team All-Big East and was the Big East Defensive Player of the Year in 2008 … Was a tackling machine for the Panthers but just doesn’t have the physical tools you look for in the next level … Not nearly the pro prospect that his press clippings would lead you to believe but he has a chance to make it in the NFL with the right team due to his top-notch intangibles.

Is super tough … Competitive and intense … Has a terrific motor … Can be too aggressive at times … has a chance to make it in the NFL with the right team due to his top-notch intangibles …

ROFLOL – I don’t know why I’m starting to think this is so funny. Singletary’s personality is dominating this draft. You should almost be able to tell by little phrases in the scouting reports who the Niners are going to pick for this team now. Definately noticing a trend …

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You could say his upside would be the next Zack Thomas

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hadn't thought of that...

… but he does sound like an extremely poor man’s Thomas.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor man's Thomas?

What exactly was rich about Thomas? Thomas was a poor man’s Thomas.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol yeah it has been a rough draft

That Crabtree pic was tough he is only the best reciever in the draft

by Athletic on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Maybe the best player. I hate when you have to take one of, if not the best, player at 10. How will we live with ourselves?

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bennett

Texas A&M DE

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

reply fail ^^^^

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like ths guy

a ton of value on special teams until Spikes is gone in 2yrs

by 49ersCAN on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

î dont think

meredith falls 15 more picks though.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

me neither

just wanted to throw it out there early to make myself look good if it does. LOL

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And for their next pick the San Francisco 49ers select ...

… Aaron Rowand

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

don't get

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naaah

Pablo Sandoval…he could play in the trenches.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Johnson

QB anyone?

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sandoval...

… is the poor man’s Brace, who’s the poor man’s Raji!

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s the physical attitude that counts

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes a gamer

has got a great motor

by gogoldenbears on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are we all missing

two more tackles taken ahead of Meredith. I know that this isn’t a Meredith board but this is getting kind of weird.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently

a LOT of teams know something we don’t.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meredith

Agree…clearly there is something keeping people from taking him. We’re at the point where you should be taking risks.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's too curious for there not to be something concrete that's a concern

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

three OT now

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather have an OT

… but I wouldn’t mind replacing Alex Smith with Mike Reilly.

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think the unwritten rule

is that it moves to the newest front page open thread.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

zach follett?

i’ll be cool with either meredith or follett

notice that rashad jennings is still on the board—for all those who wanted him in the 3rd instead of coffee. again maybe teams know something we dont…

by gogoldenbears on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Brooks Foster WR to Rams

Does he have better college stats than Heyward-Bey?

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

who cares?

his 40 is slower, duh!

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does the nation think about our newly aquired first for J Peppers or S Rogers

i don’t know if the Mangini/Rogers thing has blown over, but what would you guys give for either oneof these players?

(I posted this comment in the other thread but only got one response. If that was because nobody cared to respond, I apologize for being redundant)

by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no way we get peppers

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rogers yes. I don’t think Carolina takes their pick back for Peppers

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would we would want the last good year from Peppers? He is on the downside of his career.

Rogers has a bad rep so the 49ers won’t take him on.

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

peppers

Also, he’s never played in the 3-4. Not that that’s a reason to not trade for him, but it’s one more thing to keep in mind.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My preference would be Rogers

I hadn’t really heard Rogers had a tude until the Mangini situation came to light.

Peppers would be a gamble but we would essentially get him for our 2nd and 4th

by SanFranSoldier on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t that why Detroit sent him to Cleveland?

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peppers
Peppers would be a gamble but we would essentially get him for our 2nd and 4th

You’re also forgetting the 49ers would have to give him a contract that probably guarantees him at least $40M over six years or so. I don’t know about you, but a second, fourth, and $40M in guarantees is a lot to give up for a guy who will be learning a new position for the 49ers.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya that’s one story i won’t mind seeing repeated the whole year

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to land Follett. He seems to fit the Singletary mold

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another disappointment

Although I understand that is didn’t work out because of how it all unfolded, I am a little disappointed the Niners didn’t get one of the three WRs from UNC. I really liked their potential.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

umm

i think it was a given, after Crabtree, no more WRs in this draft.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where would the next WR play? As of right now Brandon Jones looks like a waste.

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Crabtree on board, this team is looking at likely having to cut a WR that’s already on the roster. No reason to pick any more of them.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TE’s are flying off the board, that was supposed to be something we looked at in the late rounds right?

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blocking TE . . . most of the time you don’t even need to draft those guys

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would make up for missing Gartrell

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

You don’t draft a blocking TE, but you definitely go after him for name!

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Captain Munnerlyn, CB, S. Carolina

Like, thats his name. His ACTUAL name. Don’t think you can beat that.

I'm pretty much a professional lurk.

by BasqueDuck on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d be stoked.

I'm pretty much a professional lurk.

by BasqueDuck on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s one story i wont mind seeing all year on espn. Damn, he’s already got a book and movie deal too

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Arizona keeping Boldin did a lot more to cost us the Division

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HUH???

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

give us a reason and stop saying that. We lost the division basically by a game last year, and you think we’ll already lose it? Please give us logic or stop complaining.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Go write your jump-to-conclusions-sob-story somewhere else. Now you’re just being a Negative Nancy just to draw attention.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

our first day

was great. But with these two reach picks and bypassing the better talent out there i feel like we suck

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i don’t know, i just feel like we suck

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OR

we could pick nate davis or brandstater. anyone?

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reach?

Without knowing other team’s boards, you can’t call the pick reaches. Not in the later rounds.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just assumed since there was higher rated talent out there. I guess that can be offset by their other good qualities. I really dont mind the ILB and i wanted a 3rd rd rb, just didn’t think it’d be coffee.

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have to remember...

… that most of the talent in (probably) rounds four through seven are pretty interchangeable. One team may have a guy rated as a fourth while another team has him as a sixth and another has him as a UDFA. Part of what makes them late picks is lack of physical ability, but also what makes players late round picks are that they contain a more uncertainty in terms of how they’ll transition.

Scouts may be very good at rating first and second round talents. However, once you get to the third, you have to start taking scouts, draft “gurus” and other rankings with a serious grain of salt.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

see Meredith, Jamon

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

new consensus bandwagon?

Reilly? Follett?

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we'll still get an OT here

It’ll just be Lydon Murtha, a 6’7" workout warrior

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

there goes Duke Robinson

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Smart picks by Carolina and Green Bay. Both got really good value in the 5th.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nuts

He was a promising prospect.
This year’s Carl Nicks for Carolina

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh Sh-t

I just realized San Diego took Gartrell.

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fooch

What or who do you think we need?

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

needs

I think we need an offensive lineman…I think a defensive back would be a plus…We need a QB, but I’d wait till next round…

This round I wouldn’t mind Zack Follett, but I actually don’t think pass rush is as big a need as people think.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pass rush

I think the 49ers feel the same way. Maybe they want to give Lawson a chance to prove he deserves an extension at the end of next season?

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

This is Lawson’s chance to prove himself. A healthy Jay Moore could be a factor, although no guarantees there.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course...

… Fooch has gotta throw out a bone for his boy Jay Moore. :)

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My boy

You know I’ll be pushing him until he goes on I/R again.

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

… he was put on IR last year again just so they wouldn’t have to PS him. If I’m not mistaken, he’s technically still eligible for the PS now, isn’t he?

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally

I think the lack of picking the pass rusher means this

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d be happy with Coye Francies

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what OTs are still on the board now?

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gerald Cadogan OT PENN STATE
Augustus Parrish OT KENT ST
Lydon Murtha OT NEBRASKA
Cornelius Lewis OT TENN ST
Jason Watkins OT FLORIDA
Alex Boone OT OHIO ST

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top remaining tackles on ESPN's board

Gerald Cadogan OT PENN STATE
Augustus Parrish OT KENT ST
Lydon Murtha OT NEBRASKA
Cornelius Lewis OT TENN ST
Jason Watkins OT FLORIDA
Alex Boone OT OHIO ST
Andrew Gardner OT GA TECH
Joel Bell OT FURMAN
Dan Gay OT BAYLOR
Jose Valdez OT ARKANSAS

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT depth can still be addressed in FA

No need to push for a weak option in the draft.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this is off topic

but I’m glad Oher is where he is. That kid has a hell of a story. The family that took him in are really, really, good people.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

While...

… I definitely didn’t want the 49ers to take him, he definitely has always sounded like a great kid.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wanted the Niners to pick him

but not with Crabtree falling in our laps

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto.

Now let’s get a warm body for the O-line

by Spencer L on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casillas

I like Casillas more than Follet but I don’t think he has the size to be a McC pick.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets go Alex Boone

Dominated Orakpo in the Bowl game, he dropped this far because of DWI

http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com

by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yea thats what I was just thinking about, I’m surprised he’s ranked so low.

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like him for Niners Nation

But not for the Niners:


Has talked publically about once drinking 30 or 40 beers a day.

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he can block consistently

he can drink 50 for all I care. As long as he has a DD every day. LoL

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t believe him

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that makes me a fan - if we're going for personality this draft let's take Boone

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 year starter for buckeyes

so he has to be decent. might be the pick if we go OT cause hes a good run blocker.
i prefer cadogen or watkins cause of their athletic ability and upside, but they’re more of passblockers than run blockers

by gogoldenbears on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas picked up Michael Hamlin

Any relation to the guy from seattle who lost a season after being beaten with a street sign?

by Spencer L on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else

think that guy on the commercial for steroids is a freak?

That has to be CGI. LoL

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

O/T: I have the first overall pick in my rookie draft.

Is there even a question on who i pick????

current roster:
D. Brees
M. Turner
J. Stewart
D. Sproles
E. Royal
W. Welker
K. Walter
Steelers
S. Hill
T. Choice
J. Charles
M. Clayton

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you do need a receiver……..

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta go

Darius Heyward-Bey right? Did you SEE his 40 time? :)

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's fast

Jamarcus Russell can throw a football over them mountains and Heyward-Bey can chase it down.

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

because football is just like fetch.

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And their 2nd round S can knock out a Moose

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rookie draft

I’m in a dynasty league with the #1 pick. No question for me it’s Crabtree

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mckillop is a good pick...

He sounds like a singletary guy: tough, hard worker, motor that doesn’t quit.

Note everyone: we are picking guys who PRODUCED in college and won national awards. Many teams pick athletes that don’t produce as much during games. Guys that PRODUCE are FOOTBALL players, and that is what we need. Let the other teams take the athletes that haven’t done nearly as much.

by jviet on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Instead of looking at position charts for the next pick

Who is had the best Senior Bowl performance who has yet to be drafted? That’s the pick.

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Or

we could pick nate davis or brandstater. Anyone? OT is probably the smart pick though.

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Summers GONE (Pitt)

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ohhhh!!!!

knew they’d take him

by 49ersCAN on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frank Summers to the Steelers………

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m jealous

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

summers

I think he visited there a couple weeks ago..not a shocking pick

by Fooch on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s such a stereotypical steeler. Theyll love him. Bus Jr.

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the clock . . .

Fooch would his jersey picture be 5b?

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT I CALLED IT

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m sold on Alex Boone

"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds

by Persiflage on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis!!!

Good pick.

I like it.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NATE!

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis. Interesting. Still would’ve liked a lineman, but it’s sure an interesting move.

Joe Martinez: My fingers are crossed and my palms are together for you.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate Dogg!

by PHUT! on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

new thread?

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

mcloughan...

…continues his trend of taking DEF in rds 5-7. i bet there’s another DEF or 2 more before the day’s out…esp DL and DB.

by Florida Danny on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

McC just won us the division!!!!

lol

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

won lost^

http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com

by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing like grabbing the 3rd string QB when we are drafting our next starting QB in the 2010 draft

by bignerd on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh McCloughan

How you keep failing me..

http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com

by supraman on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You’re nuts. You guys act like us taking tackle at all in this draft will make or break next year.

PLEASE get over it, and be happy with what we DO have.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis

Interesting. Makes me wonder what they got 2 first-rounders next year for.

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For a #1.

Davis gives them, potentially, their next Shaun Hill.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

it’s a little odd in that context, b/c it seemed like they were positioning themselves to go after a big time QB next year in the first

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was my thought

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is getting ahead of ourselves

to assume that we are going QB next year.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if they wanted to...

… Davis shouldn’t preclude them from doing that.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also true

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well now it is, didn’t seem so before the nate davis pick, IMO

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 first rounders give flexibility

Maybe Davis really impresses through the season.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are still some good DBs left

we could get with any of our next couple picks.

by Blank x2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

McKillop sounds like a guy who could wear the radio helmet...

that is, if he can make the team, then start – could be interesting given Wilis not sounding like he wants to call the defensive plays

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

scouting report says he has small hands……..sound familiar anyone?

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

an ‘unconventional grip’—he doesn’t use the laces

Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!

by grantmp on Apr 26, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugggghhh

sounds pretty conventional for our QB draft picks.

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s interesting. I’m not sure If I’ve ever seen that.

by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

see Smith, Alex

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I just never paid any attention to that.

by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Troy Aikman

Didn’t use the laces either

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

… I have a QB for Madden 2010 now!

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ha

I’m picking up Vick off the FA list

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you think his rating would be?

by Mr. Nice Guy on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

75...

… only because his speed, accel, agility ratings are still through the roof for a QB.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea playing with him in previous years was almost like cheating….but playing with a lefty takes a little getting used to.

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lefty.

Seriously. Getting used to rolling the other way is a bit of work.

by sfgfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

better than Nate Davis’

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but then its not as much fun to laugh at him

Thing A

by sam23 on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

who’s the last african american quarterback the niners had?

Play hard, then rock out even harder.

by TheBigLeburnski on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Scout.com says about Nate Davis

“Davis is a smooth, intelligent pocket passer who has a great feel for the game. He sets up quickly in the pocket, shows poise and delivers a strong, accurate ball to his receivers. He has the ability to escape the pocket and make plays on the run; buys time for his receivers. He possesses excellent vision and displays great touch leading receivers downfield and over the middle. – Chris Steuber, Scout.com”

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Arm

Says Davis won the distance throw in college football last year with a throw of 69 yards in the air. Flacco set the record the year before with a throw of 74 yards. Boom.

by DubsFanByTheZoo on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

goes the dynamite

by Neon on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kiper

just called McKillop the best pick of the 5th round on ESPN. Pretty much that means he won’t even make the team right?

by save10 on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis

Okay, Nate Davis is ours now. Al Davis loves speed. You love how far a guy can throw. Great. Forget that he comes from a small schoolaand has a learning disability. Plus, we already have a QB, and back up QB that was a first round pick, and a veteran QB. Plus of course next year you’re all sold that we should pick ANOTHER QB. We’d almost be like Tampa at that point except for the fact that Hill is actually decent but no one wants to believe that.

Scotty Mac should be fired right after this draft. STILL no pass rush. We could have taken the top FB on the board in round 5. A good young safety in round 3. The RB pick was mediocre. He just really stinks.

by Since79 on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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