I dont understand why people hate drafts anyway. Wait and see people! We got the positions, and its not up to us anymore, its up to the players, the whining wont change anything either way.
Just enjoy the off season and have fun! :D

Not bad at all

I’m definitely concerned about the secondary too. But I’m still cautiously optimistic going into next season.

Regarding our receivers, I’d suspect we’ll be going into next season with Bruce, Crabtree, Morgan, and Jones, with a battle between Battle and Hill (depending on how many receivers we carry). I’m hoping it’s Hill that’s kept, but I agree, there’s a lot of touches that would need to be spread around.

I wouldn’t call it an upgrade, yet. Obviously, if he plays RT all season, it will be an upgrade, but exchanging an injury-prone RT for another one isn’t, right now, an upgrade. It is staying the same. I mean, how many seasons did we say “if Jonas Jennings is healthy…”? Every year he was here. now we’re saying the same thing about Smith. Nothing has changed.

Thus, not addressing the OT position in the draft was a negative and the team hasn’t improved at this position during this offseason in any measureable respect.

I actually agree with their move on Jones v. Johnson. Johnson was a good receiver, fast too, but he just didn’t stand out any more than some of the other, younger guys we had. It was one of those “we can afford to let him go” type players. Meanwhile I think everyone in sleepin on Brandon Jones. The titans coach had nothing but good things to say about him and best of all he has an amazing work ethic which I’m sure Coach Sing loved. (He had a fluke injury, now he’s better)Wait and see what the kid can do. I predict Jones to be better than Morgan and Hill.

As far as Marvel, thats a damn crap shoot but def better than keeping Jennings PERIOD.

I personally love what they did with our 2nd pic. It would have been money to have Maualuga or Butler which are the two players we were eyeing, but he was gone and the GM just didn’t believe in Brown. In that case why not double up on 2010 first rounders. I look at it this way. If I was trying to pick up a franchise player, i.e. Peppers, you need to give up a first plus something else. Now even when you make that trade you still have a first left or you could use them both to move up and get someone like Taylor Mays next year. Now how about that for upgrading the secondary. I say good show Mr. GM.

I agree that we did do well with our FA rookie signings but we did much better with our picks and cap space management. Now we are virtually in the position to acquire anyone we want/need. I honestly don’t know why we just didn’t do Peppers for our 2nd and 4th instead of trying to re offer Carolina their 2010 1st pick back plus something else. It could have been a done deal in one foul swoop!!

dude…..srsly…..you killed my crabtree buzz. Why would you do that…..you…..just….There is plenty to look forward to next year. New coach, new OC, Someone to spell Gore, potentially wicked WR, Hill may get a full season to prove himself..This could be a HUGE year offensively. I agree we could (should) have done more defensively…but it WAS a good offseason in that we made some moves that needed to be made. Besides, not everyone needs a breakout year, but if one or 2 guys have one, this could be a playoff season (or at least .500).

The team draft at this point was in the bottom quarter.

The other teams in the division, on a relative basis improved much more.

I understand the Crabtree move-he was way too good to pass. Then the draft fell to pieces.

The 2nd round could’ve got a 2nd tier OT or a pass rusher in Simtin or Brown. The knock on these two is that they were just pass rushers. SO WHAT that’s what this team needs.

I also think we could’ve got a solid, but not stellar FS in round 3, if not a better RB.

When there are so many holes to fill and quality players to fill those holes-I don’t understand why you would let those needs go unfulfilled.

Walt Harris is old and a CB is BADLY needed to replace him shortly. If I can see this, why can’t the GM?

I think this draft shows how inept this guy really is. The best GM’s like the Patriots ran circle around this guy, filled their needs and had more picks by trading down and got A LOT more out of the draft.

Unfortunately starting rosters aren’t made of players mostly drafted in rounds 5-7, rather through rounds 1-4. We got 1 player that should start and 1 that should spell Gore. That isn’t acceptable. A “wash” as he says isn’t progress.

Lets just hope these flyers in rounds 5-7 pan out well, the pass rush is rejuvenated, Goldson turns into the play making ball hawk needed, and Walt Harris doesn’t age this year. Oh yea-throw in the winning powerball lotto ticket as well.

Let’s not get all Chicken Little about what went on this off-season. Firstly, we’re dealing with imperfect information. We’re not on the practice field every day and they’ve yet to even start the season. Who knows how the Niners will do with their new roster?

My guess is, that with consistency comes progress. Assess the field, make a plan, and execute it. That’s what Singletary and McCloughan seem to be doing with personnel. Going through a rebuilding phase isn’t easy, but they seem to be anchoring their weight on some of the guys they have, like Willis and Gore, rather than try to address needs that fans feel are lacking.

Coach Walsh did that very smartly when turning the franchise around in 1979 by seeing the talent he had and anchoring the Niners’ progress on Montana. 6-10 in 1980 then became championship after championship. Consistency and persistence is what did it, and SIngletary has that in spades. Nolan, obviously, didn’t.

Pre-season and then through Novermber, we’ll have a much clearer picture of what’s what. Till then, there is no way of telling if this off-season was a wash or a smashing success.

There was an amusing comment Greg Easterbrook made at some point last season. He was looking at the patriots, and he pointed how how they basically needed help at every position on the field once you take depth and age considerations into account. His point was that drafting for need is silly (if the league’s best team needs help everywhere, in either the short or long term, then how can other teams now) but I think it’s worth pointing out that you will always have more positions of need than you have high draft picks.

Which is a way of saying that I agree with you about NT, as part of our overall defensive line play. But the consensus I read was that BJ Raji was the only quality NT available, and he went before we picked.

While it’s normally not reasonable to expect several players to have greatly improved seasons, I don’t think any of the specific examples I’ve mentioned are unreasonable. Lawson HAS been misued and injured. Balmer WAS expected to be a year away. Furthermore, up until the halfway point last year, we were a horribly coached team. The defense started to play better very shortly after Singletary took over, so one has to expect that more improvement is possible with a full training camp.

Our secondary needs to get better, although that’s obviously connected to our pass-rush problems. Harris and Clements are above-average players who’ve been put in difficult situations. It’d be nice to find an improvement in safety. I can’t disagree with that.

But, as I wrote in another thread, we’re not going to get better by adding league-average players in most positions, and it’s very hard to get a better-than-league-average player drafting late. If the team didn’t like the players in the second round, then it has a better chance of getting a better-than-average player next year with a number one than it did this year with a 2 and a 4.

I’ll take blind optimism any day of the week. YEAH….SCREW THOSE GUYS. IF IT AINT RED AND GOLD, IT AINT NUTHIN!

The Cards added Rashad Johnson and Cody Brown, and where did Wisenhunt come from?? Just one of the best 3-4 defenses in the league!!

One more time!!!

I like your response how you aren’t saying the 49ers did really bad but they could do better. We will all have to see for preseason

and we have to remember to give the GMs and scouts the benefit of the doubt.
None of us have the experience and depth of knowledge they do when evaluating talent. We get excited by what we see on TV and read about the combine, but we dont sit in those interviews and we dont have any idea how they looked in personal workouts. We have to trust that they know what they are doing. Time will tell.

I agree with you that it’ll be hard to see the benefits of Crabtree next year because of our QB needs, but really, what options did we have: Stafford and Sanchez were gone before we could pick. Freeman is a reach. We could have tried to top the deal for Cutler (the cost was two #1’s and a #3, minus a #5). So the question is, how do we solve our QB problems:

The team has actually done exactly what I wanted to see them do. Hill goes in as the presumptive starter – he’s earned that – and Smith will probably get the opportunity to prove he’s better than he’s shown us. Then, they picked up a young guy with potential, who they can be patient with. We need a better QB to win a super bowl with this team, yes … maybe that’s Nate Davis, maybe it’s next year’s draft pick, maybe it’s a rejuvinated Smith. But there wasn’t an obvious high-draft-pick fix for that problem in this draft.

When that’s the case, the correct move is not to pick a player high, and that’s what the team did.

The OL should be substantially improved with the addition of Smith, if he’s healthy. That’s a big if, and it’s why I wanted us to take Oher originally. But with Rachal and Smith on the right side, if healthy, we have the beginning of a good power-run game. But just like you can’t presume health, it’s hard to presume injury, either. Yes, we’re in trouble if Smith gets hurt … on the other hand, is there a player who we could have picked in the second or fourth round who would have been better than Snyder this year?

So while I agree with you that this team still has weaknesses (which is why I said we were more than a year away to begin with) I’m not sure there were good fixes for those weaknesses in this draft.

It helps when you don’t throw like 70%. Hill (who i’m guessing will be QB) can manage the game well enough. Singletary wants to not only to rely on defense or only offense but use both to win the game.

He was worth 3 more picks in the draft to somone in the league. I’m sorry, he is a good player, at least seems to be , but he was good enough to pick up more guys in positions of need. zour scheme isn’t that solid. The sacks we gave up last year need to be forgotten our OC from then is always in the top 3 in SACKS!! that’s a given with his offense.

So what’s the hold up. F’n crazy works for me!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think he will have a good season if he starts ( which i think he will/already is)

PR- bloody war wound from the 60’s
The problem could be our DB’s aren’t trusted enough to have complex blitzing
RT- band aid ready
QB- no prob here just a better sys-jury still out
WR- just needed time to develope and Crabtree will cause an issue with playing time

… and, in fact, not thinking Crabtree was going to be available, I wanted us to take Oher for just that reason.

According to Matt Maiocco, that’s what the team was thinking after Tyson Jackson was picked early.

But the point of band-aids like Marvel Smith is that they allow you to wait and hopefully get a player you’re excited about. I honestly don’t know enough about Loadhardt (the next tackle taken) to know if he was the solution, but I doubt it. People were talking about this being a draft four deep in top-quality tackles, and he was the sixth taken. So I suspect we’re better off with the band-aid than with him.

When you can’t find a long-term solution at a position, a short-term solution is just fine. Marvel could easily have 2-3 more very good years in him if his back is healthy, and that gives us time to find a long-term solution.

I think we have plenty of cap room. We could easy sign someone that gets cut for depth behind Smith. Crabtree will make the other players better. Davis to breakout this year? It could happen. With the right system and a consistent QB.

Also while Foote is an ILB, he could take the place of Spikes next year and he knows the d, he could help teach lawson and harylson

might it make more sense to keep the two #1s to see if we really need a QB next summer. if we do – the QB crop will be deep and we’ll have a ton of leverage.