Niners Nation All Worst Team: QBs
The greatest of all time is something usually easily recognized. The player with the most touchdowns, most yards, most tackles, most (insert random stat here) is usually in the discussion for who is recognized as the Best Ever. But on the flip side of the coin, deciding on the worst ever is something that few agree on, and many argue over.
Who is to decide what constitutes as “The Worst”? In fact if a player truly is the worst, shouldn’t they have been holding clipboards and getting Gatorade for the superstars of the team? While this is most often the case, a few sparkling turds make their way onto the football field, where they can stink up a whole stadium with their lack of skill, leadership, talent, and athletic ability.
It is from this thought that I bring to you the first installment of the Niners Nation: Worst of All Time list. This will work in a similar fashion to the Best of All Time list, just on the opposite end of the spectrum. I’ll list a few players that are in the running for Worst of All Time at their specific position, you vote. In the end, the winners will be put on the Worst of All Time roster, and can go through their lives living with the shame of having thousands of fans consider them Worst of All Time.
And since QB discussions have been so hot on this site lately, why not begin with the most important position on the offensive side of the ball, the QB. We as 49er fans have been blessed to have some of the greatest QBs of all time (
After the jump, a list of the worst of the worst (as I see it), some general stats and a quick wrap on their careers wearing the Red and Gold.
Ahh, Just Turn Overs…. How I loath you. Let me count the ways… The #3 on the depth charts, #1 in Martz’s heart walking train wreck sent our most recent season into a tailspin with inept play, awful ball control/game management, and an inability to step up as the team leader. Sure, he knew Martz’s system the best, and it takes quite a strong mind to grasp that. In nine games of play, JTO threw for 1678 yards at a 58.0% completion rate, threw for 8 TD’s, 11 INTs, and fumbled the ball 11 times (that’s 22 total turnovers for those whipping out the calculators).
Unfortunately for JTO Suckagain, the bad FAR outweighs the good in this scenario, and now my respect for him is somewhere in between my respect for a toaster oven and the white stuff that accumulates at the side of your mouth when you are really, really thirsty.
The former Super Bowl Champion QB (and some consider worst winning Super Bowl QB ever) joined the Niners shortly after the franchise drafted Alex Smith to serve as a mentor for Smith’s “developmental period”. In 2007, after Smith separated his shoulder, Dilfer stepped in to lead the team to a 2-5 record in seven games as a starter. During his one half-season as a regular player, Dilfer threw 7 TDs, 12 INTs, 1166 yards with a completion percentage of 51.6%, and had a QB rating of 55.1. Not a superstar for sure, but worst 49er QB EVER?
The jury is still out on Mr. Smith, and he has a chance to take him off of this list if given the opportunity. However, one decent season out of four after being drafted first overall is not enough to keep him off the list this go around. A 25% chance of a decent season puts him in the bust category, and since he was #1 overall it would make it a massive bust. Personally, I would say no where even close to the worst QB of all time, but some could argue drafting him instead of Aaron Rogers (or anyone else) in the 2005 Draft might have kept the team out of the doldrums for the past few years.
NOTE: Shaun Hill Haters - I am NOT including Hill on this list because he has a winning record for the Niners. I am not playing favorites, or even stating I want Hill as the starter this season over Alex Smith.
Jim Drunkenmiller
Here we have the all around crappy, 1st round bust, and utter disappointment known as Jim Drunkenmiller. Selected 26th overall in the 1997 draft, he was seen as the new Steve Young/Joe Montana when it came to be his turn to play. Unfortunately, his turn to play came and went very quickly. He played in only six games, completing 21 of 52 pass attempts while throwing only one touchdown pass, four interceptions and leaving with a QB rating of 29.2. The Niners later released him, he was signed by the Dolphins, then was cut and never played in the NFL again. He was seen in the AFL and the XFL, but briefly, and by very few people… Kind of like Loch Ness, but much, much, much less impressive.
Cody Pickett
Cody has the dubious distinction of being the only starting QB of the 49ers to have never earned a touch down. In 6 games of play (2 starts), he completed 18 passes, threw 4 interceptions, fumbled the ball 4 times (but didn’t lose any of them!) and finished with a QB rating of 16.4. Ouch. The slight asterisk next to him was that he was drafted 217th overall (7th round) so nobody was expecting the greatness that some from other #1 overall picks (*COUGHDRUNKENMILLERCOUGHSMITHCOUGH*), but that’s not an excuse that will get you off of this list.
Steve Spurrier
I never watched him play, just coach. But from what I read on the interwebs, during his ten year career (nine of which with the 49ers, one with expansion Tampa Bay,) Spurrier played in a total of 106 games, accumulating 597 completions, including 6,878 yards and 40 touchdowns, and 60 interceptions in 1,151 pass attempts. He had one very good season, statistically, in 1972 (1938 yards, 54.6 completion percentage, 18 TDs, 16 INTs, 75.9 QB rating), but four of his 9 seasons on the team he barely threw 10 passes (mostly because he was behind/sharing time with John Brodie), but in the end he never contributed much to the team. More of a bump on the log than anything else...
Jim Plunkett
Here we see another Super Bowl winning QB (he was even the MVP for his first super bowl – XV). However in this instance, Plunkett reached his greatness after his time with the Niners, and in a more painful way. In 1976 Plunkett was traded to the San Francisco 49ers, and led the team to a 6-1 start before faltering to an 8-6 record. After a 5-9 season in 1977, the 49ers released him during the 1978 preseason to the Oakland Raiders. He rode the bench until Dan Pastorini broke his leg week 5 of the 1980 season, and in a Kurt-Warner-for-the-St.-Louis-Rams-type-performance, led the team to the Super Bowl, beating the Eagles. Why is he on this list? A) Because he sucked as a Niner. B) He “betrayed” the team by going across the bay to our most evil of rivals and C) He led our rivals to multiple Super Bowl titles. Where was that talent when in
That’s the small list I created, but others could make a strong argument for others I left off the list, so throw them up in the comments section. Let the [site decorum]-fest begin!!!
PS - Thanks to Wikipedia, Databasefootball.com, and NFL.com for the stats and information for all of these players.
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LOLz
ahahaha this is a brilliant offseason move on behalf of niners nation.
by JoeO on Apr 9, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping someone would pick up on that
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Apr 9, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
con-air reference
I completely overlooked the reference. When I went back through to read it I first thought it was the worst of the worst comment, but then got to the white stuff comment. That’s gold, Jerry, GOLD!
by Fooch on Apr 9, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't see enough playtime.
That makes it hard to call…
I mean, who’s the worst waterboy we’ve had? How would we judge? Who would care?
by shlecko on Apr 9, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved Cody Pickett
yeah he didn’t play very well, but he had heart, and if a bull ever made its way onto the field he would tackled it like it weren’t no thang
by foosball4949 on Apr 9, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cody Pickett should have had a touchdown...
against the Chicago Bears. But Brandon Lloyd decided it was a better idea to flop to the ground avoiding the safety he saw out of the corner of his eye, instead of going for the easy pass. Good job Lloyd. This is why we cut you.
by Calcio365 on Apr 9, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
worst WRs?
I would hope he’d make the short list of crappy WRs. He flashed talent but was a big fat bust.
by Fooch on Apr 9, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He sucked, but that one handed sideline catch was still one of the best I’ve ever seen though.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this one?
I think this is what you’re talking about.
Of course, then you can’t forget the one below as a contrast That might be worth rolling on the front page.
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by Fooch on Apr 9, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was rattay at QB
I think for that play. same game Rattay gift wrapped an INT for TD to Vilma.
I believe the play is the one against Chicago where Lloyd alligator armed what would’ve been an upset go-ahead TD against the Bears (game that Nate Vasher returned Nedneys 52 yarder for a TD as the half expired).
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 9, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next time we have a [site decorum]y game
can we put that gif where this:
“This is the last time our season ends in December.” — New 49ers president Jed York after announcing the signing of Mike Singletary to a long term deal.
is?
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Apr 9, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite.
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by JRPhillips on Apr 10, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pickett
he only got to start a couple games and the ‘famous’ one was in chicago in 50 mph winds. no one wouldve looked good playing QB in that game, but now that is all he is remembered for. back then i remember reading that bill walsh thought he was the best QB on the roster (over alex smith) and i would have to agree. he never really got a fair shot
by rojowop on Apr 10, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ken Dorsey
with Tim Rattay as most underrated!!
LG
by rlott#42 on Apr 9, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boooooooooooooo
I have a old Drunkenmiller jersey.
so I voted Pickett.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Apr 9, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you have a druckenmiller jersey?
-1,608,548
lol, just kidding.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 9, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a kid
it was 6.99, I sure as hell wasn’t going to spend 32.99 on a Barlow one.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Apr 9, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$6.99
I`d but it too, no lie.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 9, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for 7 bucks I’d buy it right now.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
finally
i’ve been waiting to start voting on this since we finished with the Greatest Team voting.
I wanted to go JTO just because his particular brand of suck is still somewhat fresh in my mind, but I went ahead and went with Drunkenmiller for the obvious reasons.
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by 49erLou on Apr 9, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rodeo Cody
How can you not like that guy? He made a special teams tackle, then took the snaps as QB when Dorsey went.
I think Tim Rattay is most disappointing, because of the foot injury he had. It really destroyed that season, not that the season had much promise, but still, it destroyed a season.
Worst QB ever in my era? Steve Stenstrom. The horror show that was the 1999 season was dreadful. Losing Steve Young was hard enough, but seeing Steve Stenstrom not even lead a TD drive in the 3 games he started was brutal.
JTO atleast won a few games, as hard as he was to watch. Stenstrom is garbage. Through and through.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 9, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
three games, one TD drive.
Stenstrom’s stats in the 3 games started:
Loss, 24-6 vs. New Orleans – 18 of 32, 187 yards, 1 INT
Loss, 23-7 vs. St. Louis – 7 of 12, 108 yards, 1 INT
Loss, 20-3 vs. Green Bay – 19 of 35, 195 yards, 1 INT
Total 1999 Stats – 54 of 100, 536 yards, 4 INTs, 0 TDs (6 games, 3 started)
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 9, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering when someone would bring up Stenstrom.
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ended up being better than Elvis
Thing A
by sam23 on Apr 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
come to think about it
we’ve had a number of awful Steve’s at qb,
Bono
DeBerg
Stenstrom
Spurrier
by J2daZ on Apr 9, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget Young! He suffers for not being Joe Montana! So screw him!!!
I kid.
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by JRPhillips on Apr 9, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drunkenidiot and Dilfer
Nothing more to say about jim but Trent…..good lord. I was at his last start against the Vikes and i was 1 out of many who were chanting Hills name to come in. It was too bad that Nolan had to let Dilfer get his head knocked off before Hill finally got to go in but that happens. Dilfer was hairpullingly horrific and I shave my head so you can imagine my frustration with him. Almost had to pull my wifes hair instead lol
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Apr 9, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lmao
priceless. not that I condone abuse towards women.
by Andrew Davidson on Apr 9, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well put
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Apr 9, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drunkenmiller or JTO
As bad as Drunkenmiller played I never saw a sideline shot where it appeared teammates were plotting to attack him like I saw with JTO.
Drunkenmiller – All time crap
JTO – All time I just want to gouge my eyes out
by bignerd on Apr 9, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Worst QB's
Plunkett was shot putting the ball as a 49er. Clearly horrendous. Then we’d list
Scott Bull, Joe Reed, Drunkenmiller, and Ken Dorsey.
by Aristophanes on Apr 9, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Shaun Hill, because I hate him.
All kidding aside, it has to be Druckenmiller. You’ve got compelling arguments for all of them, and I’d prefer to go with a guy who played perhaps a full season’s worth of football, and played badly. Alex Smith could fit this criteria, since his rookie year and third year can equal up to one full year of sucktastic football, but I’m willing to give him a pass just because there’s at least a vague chance he could be decent at some point. Maybe not today, maybe not in 2009, but someday…
Anyway, I’m voting for Druckenmiller because he’s a first round pick, and there were legitimate expectations for him to be good. I can’t pick Dorsey or Pickett or any guy who was drafted in the 7th round (or undrafted) and didn’t get much playing time. So in this case, due to his high place in the draft and terrible play at QB, The Drunken Miller gets my vote over JTO and Alex Smith. And maybe even Spurrier.
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by JRPhillips on Apr 9, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
drunkenmiller… bad times.
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by LADubbz45 on Apr 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Worst quarterback..let's say...
Dilfer! He was supposedly the veteran who was a leader and mentored Alex Smith, but once he stepped on the field, he played very poorly. What a contrast.
Druckenmiller, he had a rocket of an arm, possibly one of the strongest in the history of the franchise, but he couldn’t throw accurate enough nor was he an elusive quarterback, he played poorly in the pocket and was not an NFL quarterback although his arm strength was NFL-caliber.
by JohnLewis09 on Apr 9, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
Dilfer was absolutely terrible. I went to the Niners vs Rams game that ended 13-9 in the ‘07 season. Dilfer finally velcro-ed a pair and was able to drive us down to the Rams territory at the end of the game where he was unable to reach the endzone on 4 pass attempts in the end zone (3 incompletes and 1 INT to break the hearts of everyone at ’the then called’ Monster Park.
God i hated Dilfer….good NFL analyst but…good lord… he was terrible with the Niners.
by Colombian49er on Apr 14, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel weird going with Druck, so I’m not going to. He was obviously one of the worst draft choices, but as a quarterback he didn’t even have the chance to be bad for us. He even won the one game he started (not that wins are evidence of non-suckiness) It’s just that the guy never did any damage on the field, and I don’t know that he really did a lot of damage to the team otherwise. It was only well after Druck that the team ran out of viable options at QB.
And I kind of think that the answer to this question has to be the guy who did the most damage. Druck? Awful pick. Pretty inconsequential player.
Alex Smith is a possibility if you ask this question again in a few years, but the verdict will still be out on him until he’s not on the team anymore.
Dilfer? He was bad… but man the team he was on was far, far worse. He actually played quite well with us when he wasn’t getting hammered after three-steps – which wasn’t often.
JTO is a possibility, but I have a hard time getting worked up over a guy whose QB rating with the team was better than both Y.A. Tittle and John Brodie (what I MEANT to say was that I have a hard time getting worked up over a guy who was making almost no money and only played 9 games… the Tittle/Brodie thing is just a stupid fact I happened to notice that I went on to present completely out of context).
But if you’re going to consider JTO, then you HAVE to consider Lamar McHan, who was worse in every way and, was the quarterback (in Brodie’s absence) during one of the single worst seasons in franchise history and, in part, led to the fairly uninspiring Jack Christiansen era.
Dorsey might get honorably mention, but, again, he didn’t really cause much damage. Nobody thought he had a chance to be good. He wasn’t good. He didn’t block anybody. He didn’t cripple a season that could have gone the other way (for instance: imagine going from John Brodie to worst season in franchise history before you can say the words Lamar McHan).
But my sleeper is actually Steve DeBerg. He was also saddled by some awful, awful teams, but he lost 28 games as a 49er (about 1/3 of his 18 year career total in the three years he was with us). Now, again, that’s not fair. Those teams were total crap. But he also threw 60 INTs to 37 TDs, and many of those turnovers were squarely on his immobile, panicked shoulders. They guy couldn’t avoid a sack for his life, threw interceptions to keep from getting sacked, and eventually lost his job because Bill Walsh couldn’t watch him throw another game away with those turnovers.
But… my vote’s probably still with McHan. That must have been one HELL of a painful season, that 1963 season…
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 9, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Please ignore the contradictions inherent between my analyses of Dilfer and DeBerg. Sure, I’m excusing Dilfer for the same exact crap that I refuse to excuse DeBerg for, but… hey, shut will you!
Fine! DeBerg doesn’t deserve it! Now will you stop looking at me like that?!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 9, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeBerg in no way deserves to be here
regardless of on field play, one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game personally credited DeBerg with mentoring him and then essentially stepping aside when it was his time. There is no way I can hate that man…
by foosball4949 on Apr 9, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said I take it back already! Geez!
:)
But the truth is DeBerg’s stats with the 49ers are ridiculously<./i> misleading. He wasn’t that great a quarterback, but he was much better than you can get from his numbers.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 9, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 9, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Preview Fail
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Apr 9, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I wasn't hating on you specifically
but Fooch has been really onto people about using the reply button so I just kinda tacked it on to yours, no offense intended…
by foosball4949 on Apr 10, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh don’t worry. I’m incredibly difficult to offend online. I was hoping the smiley would convey that I wasn’t making a big deal out of anything.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Apr 10, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smiley = Instant relief of any tension online
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Apr 11, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game personally credited DeBerg with mentoring him
This sounds like GeoMak’s Jim McMahon defense!
Not arguing the point, just thought that was kind of funny.
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by JRPhillips on Apr 10, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, don't get the reference, illumination?
by foosball4949 on Apr 10, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dangit, reference fail!
GeoMak was a poster on here for a while (might still be lurking, not sure), who made a case for Jim McMahon being one of the all-time great quarterbacks in the NFL. His reasoning was because Steve Young said that everything he knew about playing QB, he learned from Jim McMahon while at BYU. It actuality, Young credited McMahon with sort of teaching him how to properly throw the football.
It was pretty funny.
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by JRPhillips on Apr 10, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still on the chicago blog
I think he had a heart attack when cutler got signed
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Apr 11, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Yea because the Bears haven’t had a QB of Cutlers calibur in say forever.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Apr 13, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was dilfer
he had a solid career but was terrible with us, he joined espn a year late
If you had a lineup of 9 Jack Custs who hit(Cust career average) .239 AVG, .382 OBP, and .475 SLG, then your team would score 6.12 runs per game-totalling to 991runs a season.The 08 rangers lead the majors in runs score with 901.
by 9Custs on Apr 9, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
By this I meant Montana
but he also mentored Young when he was with TB before stepping aside (and Elway in Denver, for the record). Greatest 2nd string mentor in NFL history. When I was a kid I always treasured by DeBerg cards because of it and hoped that the Niners would sign him as QB coach. Hell, I still hope they do…
by foosball4949 on Apr 9, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Because
Chris Weinke hardly played. How can we judge if he is the worst quarterback in franchise history if he hasn’t played much? We should judge based on a number of starts. Even just a few starts can make you what critics would call “stink.”
by JohnLewis09 on Apr 10, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Weinke doesn’t bathe regularly, he might be the stinkiest QB in 49er history.
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by JRPhillips on Apr 11, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spurrier - Hands Down
For you younger fans, watching Dilfer play was like watching Spurrier. The big difference was that Spurrier was a Heisman winner, so there were big expectations. He could never beat out Brodie, but we always felt the potential was there. I remember being a kid at Kezar when Brodie was getting crushed by the Fearsome Foursome or the Purple People Eaters and the drunken crowd screaming for Spurrier. Then the season after the worst playoff loss in 49er history, the Staubach led 4th quarter comeback in 1972, Spurrier started most of the games and was absolutely terrible. The 49ers had won the West several times in a row and the expectations were high, especially after that terrible playoff loss, but Spurrier simply sucked. The lack of a decent QB during the mid/late ’70s was definitely a major contributor to those crappy teams (although Joe Thomas definitely shoulders most of the blame for the latter ’70s). Worst draft choice was Druckenmiller but worst starting QB was Spurrier.
by Circus Act on Apr 11, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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