2009 Roster Projections: Running Backs
The 2009 OTAs (offseason training activities) kick off this coming Monday, so it seems as good a time as any to move on to our next set of offseason roster projections. Last week we kicked it off with the defensive line. The poll results were interesting as more people thought Ricky Jean-Francois would make the 53-man roster over Ray McDonald. McDonald's injury issues probably play somewhat of a role in that.
Now we move on to the running backs. Last spring I was really excited about the DeShaun Foster signing. I thought he'd be a great complementary back to Frank Gore. That never really panned out as he didn't get much work in behind Frank the Tank. Heading into this offseason, most everybody, from management to the fans, realized the team needed to find a solid running back who could sufficiently offset Gore. We're now left to wonder if they've found the answer. Also, I didn't include fullbacks at this point. Given the nature of the 49ers rushing attack I'll be looking at them separately.
Locks
Frank Gore
Michael Robinson
Glen Coffee
Bubble
Kory Sheets
Thomas Clayton
Virtually No Chance
Nobody
I think the biggest potential for controversy is probably listing Glen Coffee as a lock to make the 53-man roster. There are plenty of folks here who are probably still steaming over the Coffee selection. However, given that the team has invested a third round pick in Coffee, I really can't see him being held off the 53-man roster. Please feel free to correct me if you think I've erred. Also, give me a reason or two.
As for Robinson, his special teams prowess and potential in the wildcat (really not sure how much we'll see of him in that though) would seem to secure a roster spot for him. A month before last year's training camp, Robinson signed a 3-year extension that would keep him in San Francisco through the 2012 season. I'm curious how Singletary feels about Robinson, since this signing came before he was elevated to head coach.
The bubble contains a pair of very interesting running backs. Thomas Clayton is beloved by many people on this site because of his huge preseason numbers. he led the NFL in preseason rushing yards in 2007and finished third last season. For those who don't like Clayton, it has to be easy to see why some folks might jump on that bandwagon (if you can call it a bandwagon). And yet, he has yet to touch the field in a regular season game. We've discussed Thomas Clayton and why he should or should not be on the roster ad nauseum. Accordingly, I'd like to use this post to turn to the newest 49er running back....
The other bubble back is Kory Sheets. Sheets went undrafted out of Purdue amidst some complaints of shenanigans against the coaching staff. Who knows what really happened, but many folks see him as an extremely talented running back. When we get to predicting an entire 53-man roster, we'll have a better idea of if he'll be making the roster. In the meantime, just considering running backs, what do you think happens to Sheets this season?
If the team keeps Gore, Robinson and Coffee, can they afford to keep a 4th running back in Sheets? Depending on how deep they want to go elsewhere, I definitely think it's a possibility. Gore is your every down back, Coffee gets beefed up into a short yardage guy and Sheets is your home-run hitter. It worked for the Giants in more or less that fashion. The Giants already used Earth, Wind and Fire, so would the 49ers have thunder, lightning and heavy rain?
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If Sheets
doesn’t make our 53-man roster, he’ll be scooped up by another and we won’t get a chance to put him on the practice squad.
Clayton, unfortunately, seems like the odd man out. We’ve had a similar running back like him before, Jamal Robertson, and Robertson didn’t account for much when he left. Robertson was a bit different, leading NFL Europa in rushing, but was still a preseason beast for us (and never much opportunity in the regular season).
Thomas Clayton doesn’t really fit in anymore. Michael Robinson is extended, and a special teams ace, and can run the Wildcat. Frank Gore, well, he’s Frank Gore. Glenn Coffee wasn’t drafted in round 3 to develop, he was drafted to be Gore’s backup immediately.
Our running back duo/trio/quartert should have the theme music for Demolition. Axe, Smash and Crush baby.
by Andrew Davidson on May 13, 2009 8:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this song
don’t mind the cheesy wrestling video. actually, do mind it.
by Andrew Davidson on May 13, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need a category between "lock" and "bubble"
About once a year or so a team’s third round pick gets cut in training camp. Last year I think it was the DE that Denver took.
I think both Coffee and Robinson are in the “likely” range but I wouldn’t call either one a lock yet. I’m very intrigued by Sheets because he offers a different running style from the other 4 backs in competition, and because of that I expect him to be the 3rd running back on the roster with Michael Robinson relgated to passing downs and special teams
by foosball4949 on May 13, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think M Robinson should go under the Cut category he's not a RB
M. S. #50
by rlott#42 on May 13, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Why drop Clayton and Sheets and keep Robinson if Robinson is only a special teams player
Also, What is so great about Robinson being a wildcat option? If he is in the backfield that would tell the defense what we are running.
I would much rather have Gore, Coffee, Sheets and maybe even Clayton as our RBs. We need RBs who will actually run with the ball and to me, Robinson doesn’t fit that need.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on May 13, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson
I realize contracts aren’t guaranteed but I’m curious why lock a guy up for the next four seasons if you don’t have some role in mind? One reason I ask is because even though Robinson may have been a Nolan guy and the contract is relatively inexpensive, it still seems like something McCloughan would have had to sign off on.
by Fooch on May 13, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McC may have signed off
but I still don’t know why, just doesn’t make since to have a backup RB that can’t shoulder one games load. I say Robinson cut, Sheets to the practice squad and Gore, Clayton, and Coffee in the backfield
M. S. #50
by rlott#42 on May 13, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
Robinson has not shown any progress as RB.. he’s a lock on special teams not RB. I would want Clayton to be #2 at RB, I think he’s has Barry Sanders body type… we got to see what he can do.
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
by bayboy on May 13, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with a 53 man roster you can’t afford to have many guys who contribute solely on special teams. Robinson’s special teams ability give him a huge advantage, but he’ll still be counted on to provide some depth and probably play at least a few snaps per game in the backfield. He also seems the most suited to fill in for Norris if he should go down with an injury mid-game. I think Robinson is more of a lock to make the final roster than any back not named Gore on our roster.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 14, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also serves as the backup FB on gameday.
He’s a very nice as a singleback on 3rd downs, as he can block and catch.
by DesertFox on May 13, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson not a lock
I’m going to have to disagree with Robinson being considered a lock to make this years team. With the depth and talent (although most unproven) I believe he will be fighting for a roster spot. I’m not saying he won’t make the team but I don’t believe his fate is so clear cut. Who knows how much of the wildcat we will even be running. Teams will be expecting and preparing for this formation, which is why the Dolphins success running this system faltered later in the season. In my opinion Robinson should never be carrying the ball because every other back can do this better, other than maybe Keasey. And with the depth and talent I don’t think we can afford to have him make the team solely based on special teams talent alone, which is why Keith Lewis was let go.
I agree Gore and Coffee are locks, but Robinson, Clayton and Sheets will be battling it out for that final 1 or 2 spots. I say two spots because based on the style of offense Raye plans on running, it is quite possible they go with 4 RB’s and 1FB. The Patriots did this last year, because they felt every back gave them something different which gave them more flexibility in play calling.
Now I am a Clayton fan, but when Coffee got drafted that pretty much spelled the end for him. Robinson and Sheets bring a different skill set to the team that Gore and Coffee dont have. And the fact that Clayton didn’t even get on the field at the end of the year when Gore was injured and we were already knocked out of the playoffs didnt bode well for his future with the team.
by 49er4life on May 13, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Robinson
will be cut. He adds too much to our special teams game, is good for wildcat formations, and can even line up and play FB. He’s not the most gifted back on our roster, but he’s got some special traits that add to his value.
It will take some special performances from Sheets and Clayton to thwart Robinson from the roster. Overall, I wouldn’t mind seeing the team go with 4 running backs. Churning out yards in the ground game is going to provide a lot of bumps and nicks on our feature back(s), we’ll need some fresh legs to spell even our spellers. If that makes sense.
If the team goes with 4 RBs, does that mean, they only keep 5 WRs? As in, no more Battle and Zeigler? As cool as it would be to have 4 RBs and 6 WRs, can it happen? Morgan and Hill are no locks to stay healthy, so we’ll need some depth if one (or both) goes down.
by Andrew Davidson on May 13, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question...
If they do in fact keep 4 RBs, how would that affect the other postions. I’m not sure if they have a certain number of roster spots allocated to offense and defense. If they don’t then it’s quite possible we keep one less DB. Last year we had 8 corners and 4 safeties make the final roster – Clements, Harris, Brown, Spencer, Strickland, Smith, Hudson, Rossum, Roman, Lewis, Lewis, Goldson. With Strickland gone and Smith moving to safety, maybe they roll with one less DB?
Clements, Harris, Brown, Spencer, Hudson, Rossum, Smith, Lewis, Goldson, Taylor, Roman/Williams? – this would leave one more spot available, although maybe they use it to keep an extra DL in RJF
or maybe they roll with 2 less DB’s b/c of the versatility ..i.e Smith, Williams, and Taylor being able to play both CB an S, although this scenario is more unlikely.
by 49er4life on May 13, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson
If Robinson stays on the roster (which to me is very likely), the team will probably cut Battle loose. The two are kind of interchangeable in the sense that they’re both primarily special teams players in this stage of their careers. Battle, while a reliable WR, doesn’t really fit into the future plans of the team anymore. The only way Battle stays is if Robinson goes, and I just don’t think that’s going to happen.
by sfgfan on May 13, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if they keep Robinson....
and cut Battle, that still leaves us with 6 WR’s(Bruce, Crabtree, Morgan, Jones, Hill, Zeigler). Last year we started the season with only 5 WRs and 3RBs. Say they do keep 4 RBs, where do you think those roster spots are taken from? Another WR cut? Or do you believe we only keep 3 RBs?
Another scenario, assuming they like Sheets enough to keep him as the 4th RB and assuming he showcases some KR ability in camp, do they then cut Rossum who is essentially taking up a roster spot as only a KR.
by 49er4life on May 13, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty much....
… under the assumption that the 49ers use the last remaining year of elligibility for Zeigler on the practice squad.
by sfgfan on May 13, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot that Sheets was a good KR in college. They may let him show off and possibly make the team as the KR and 4th RB
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on May 13, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets as KR
I really like the idea of keeping him for the 53-man for just this reason. Rossum isn’t the most durable guy, and I’m worried that he’ll get picked up by another team if he’s ‘squadded. Count this as another vote for keeping 4 rb’s and squadding Ziegler.
In Singletary we trust.
by grantmp on May 13, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point, I don’t particularly want to see Battle go, but those two do seem to have rather interchangeable roles on special teams.
Thing A
by sam23 on May 14, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see a need for Robinson even on special teams
At least not anymore, he’s a liability as a RB, and Martz showed why!
M. S. #50
by rlott#42 on May 13, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well one pretty obvious “need for Robinson” is if Gore goes out for the season (knock on wood), who would be the Niners 3rd down back / back on obvious passing downs?
most fans remember the Lawrence Phillips incident where Steve Young was KO’d and (obviously) history has shown that rookie RBs have difficulty learning the protection schemes. plus, from what I’ve read, this apparently happens to also be one of Clayton’s weaknesses.
by the evil monkey on May 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who would be the 49ers 3rd down back?
Patrick Willis.
by jfainsf49 on May 13, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boone as the third down back
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on May 13, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's Raye's style of offense
He hasn’t called a play as a niner yet. Our depth is at WR and it doesn’t look like a bad combo of players. Shaun Hill has proven he can make enough plays to be a BALANCED team on O.
M. S. #50
by rlott#42 on May 13, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raye's style of offense...
by that I just meant the run first mentality. I know since then, the 49ers have said they want to run a more balanced offense, but I’m not sure I believe that. Singletary has stated clearly from the beggining that he wants to run the ball down the throat of the defense even if they are expecting it.
Having Sheets on the field would give the offense a whole different look because of the speed he brings coming out of the backfield. He reminds me of Sproles, who forces defenses to play off the line because of his big play ability(can take a swing pass and beat the defense to the outside). I have a feeling we will be seeing more split-back sets this year because even if Gore is going to run the ball, a guy like Sheets is the perfect decoy to open up the box by drawing a linebackers out.
by 49er4life on May 14, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J. Mark English
Crabtree just needs to stalk Jerry Rice for the next 10 years…
by Gandalfsprk on May 13, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good question...
If they do in fact keep 4 RBs, how would that affect the other postions. I’m not sure if they have a certain number of roster spots allocated to offense and defense. If they don’t then it’s quite possible we keep one less DB. Last year we had 8 corners and 4 safeties make the final roster – Clements, Harris, Brown, Spencer, Strickland, Smith, Hudson, Rossum, Roman, Lewis, Lewis, Goldson. With Strickland gone and Smith moving to safety, maybe they roll with one less DB?
Clements, Harris, Brown, Spencer, Hudson, Rossum, Smith, Lewis, Goldson, Taylor, Roman/Williams? – this would leave one more spot available, although maybe they use it to keep an extra DL in RJF
or maybe they roll with 2 less DB’s b/c of the versatility ..i.e Smith, Williams, and Taylor being able to play both CB an S, although this scenario is more unlikely.
by 49er4life on May 13, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thunder, lightning, and heavy rain
I’m doing a rain dance as I type.
another thing, to folks talking about the wildcat offense, [site decorum] the wildcat, gimmicks are for suckers, excluding Bill Parcells of course.
by jfainsf49 on May 13, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Given Clayton is further behind the 8 ball this season
What would it take for him to leapfrog sheets and possibly robinson? Would he have to average a solid 5-6 yds per carry in the preseason? Would he have to get involved in special teams to justify him being on the active roster?
by VD cant be Contained on May 13, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thunder, lighting and hurricane
Lets hope it’s he’s category 5 this season
by bignerd on May 13, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple thoughts:
What no one is talking about is that Robinson is a very good pass protector and the Niners run draw plays with him enough (those are about the only carries he gets) that it’s not a dead give away that we’re passing when he’s on the field.
I do think that the Wildcat is mostly gimmicky for non-Fins teams but I was wonder what it would look like, and how effective it would be to line Robinson up in shotgun with Crabtree and Battle on either side of him, the former a HS QB and the later a college QB, and run some sort of option/wildcat offense that could allow all three of them to run rollouts, endarounds and throw.
I know the chances of this are next to none but I still can’t help but feel intruiged by all the versatile weapons we seem to have acquired. If I’m the OC I don’t think I could help but experiment in OTAs or training camp and see how it works.
by foosball4949 on May 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clayton
stands at 5’ 11" and he’s 220lbs. Tom Rathman should be able to improve onn his pass blocking. It’s time our position coaches do their job and get Clayton READY. He should be the 3rd down back he is th emost dangerous in the open field. Leave Davis back to block he’s as good as a Franchise Tackle at Pass Blocking, jusst ask Porter!!
M. S. #50
by rlott#42 on May 13, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd think.
Clayton is certainly a better running back than Robinson. All of the other backs in camp are better runners than Robinson. Norris is a better blocker than Robinson. I don’t dismiss Robinson’s pass catching or his special teams play. The question is whether or not his skills can be duplicated by others.
As another poster said, we don’t know what kind of OC that Raye is or what kind of offense he plans to install with the personnel he now has, or even the frequency of run vs. pass, but you get the idea that unlike with Martz the team won’t be skimping on running. If they intend on pounding the ball like the NY Giants they will need more than just Gore and Coffee active. Robinson really gives you nothing as a runner. So it’s Sheets and/or Clayton as the third (and/or fourth) real, actual running back. It’s almost as if Robinson should be classified as something other than running back when he doesn’t run.
by Bob On The Coast on May 14, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PR
Rossum would be a likely cut if he only was a KR, but who would be the PR? Battle, if he makes the team? Clements? Do you want your top CB returning punts? Returning punts is a great deal more difficult than kickoffs and Rossum does a good job. So I would say anyone (like Battle) who can do a good job returning punts increases his chances of making the final 53 man squad at the expense of Rossum.
by Black47 on May 13, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Battle over Rossum?
When healthy Allen Rossum was a game-breaker as a return man. Arnaz Battle was certainly a decent return man, but he didn’t break big ones like Rossum did.
by Fooch on May 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
if we keep sheets he would be the only game-breaking prospect
by goatfather on May 13, 2009 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My guess
If the team goes 4 backs on the 53 man, Coffee could be the inactive player.
by DesertFox on May 13, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would cut Robinson
I know all running backs had problems with Martz’s offense, but Robinson was getting something like 1.5 or 2.5 yards a carry. As far as blocking, remember that Moran Norris is back and will undoubtedly be used as a blocking back on third downs.
Robinson isn’t fast enough to be a speedster, he isn’t really strong enough to be a true fullback and he can’t seem to find holes to run through. He is good catching passes in space, but there are plenty of people on the roster to catch passes this year. I know he’s a great special teams player, but if the Niners want to keep him I wouldn’t count him against their running back contingent.
I’d like to see it, in descending order, Gore, Coffee, Sheets, Clayton. Sheets could be that change of pace back that busts a long one after Gore and Coffee beat up the opposition for a couple of quarters. I’ve been a Clayton fan, but I suspect that this may be the end of the trail unless he shows some really remarkable stuff. I could see that if the Niners keep four backs and want Robinson for all of his non-running skills that would seal Clayton’s fate, but I would not want Sheets cut.
And I do not see the Wildcat coming to the Niners. Just my opinion.
by Bob On The Coast on May 13, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Robinson’s ST contributions outweigh the 2-3 carries a #3 runningback would get. Plus he can split out and serve as an emergency FB on gamedays. Remember only 45 are active, so that versatility is very valuable.
by DesertFox on May 13, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Fooch on May 13, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clayton !!
Interesting that they actually never really have tested Clayton in real life, and then still signs 2 new RB’s. This must mainly be because of Singletary’s with of always beeing sure of our capability of running the football.
I expect all 4 RB’s to make the team, Gore, Coffee, Clayton and Sheets. I also expect Robinson to make the team as a ST’er. The roster spots will come from Zak Keasey on FB and 1-2 from the DB’s, as they try to make them more versatile.
by 49'er in Denmark on May 14, 2009 12:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How does that old country song go?
Don’t fall in love with a running back.
by Bob On The Coast on May 14, 2009 7:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clayton vs. Sheets
To me Gore and Coffee are locks. Really hard not to include a 3rd rd. pick, and the 2nd by the team. It would make McC and the team look bad. Plus, I really like the potential role that Coffee may fit this season and beyond.
Robinson is a tricky one. His contract extension, backup fb role and his special teams skills would appear to take him in the roster. However, after some years of knowing his skills as a pure RB I don’t think the team would be comfortable having him as the 2nd RB in case of injury by any of the other two, especially if the team wants Gore to share carries and for instance Coffee gest injured. In that case the plans of having a strong running attack would suffer.
If they want to keep Robinson I think they will have to consider keeping either Clayton or Sheets as a 4th RB in the roster. They will have to win it in pre-season (where Clayton should have an advantage), or they may choose based on potential future development or who can provide a different running style, which may be Sheets.
by PeruvianNiner on May 14, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that
Either Robinson or Battle is getting cut. People keep saying they help on special teams but we can’t keep both. Has Robinson done PR and KR returns before? He has than he will be more valuable than Battle overall. Robinson can help on special teams and backup FB/RB. I like the preseason because we get to see some of the players you don’t usually get to see play, the rookies play, and when you have some depth at some positions competition. If Clayton is still eligible for the practice squad than he will probably go there. Sheets has more value to other teams than Clayton does. I think we can all agree that Coffee gets a roster spot being a 3rd round pick.
In Shaun Hill will trust
by iaalexeeff on May 14, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael Robinson
Robinson is a lock because he plays Singletary-type football. He is as hard-nosed as they come and people fail to recognize how Singletary utilized him as a receiver out of the backfield during the second half of last season. He caught 17 passes for 202 yards and an outstanding average of 11.9 yards per catch.
Robinson has a contract for another 3 seasons and won’t be going anywhere. Another thing about MRob is his outstanding hands. He has lost only one fumble in three years. Both Coffee and Sheets lost starting jobs at one time or another in their college careers due to fumbling problems.
As for Clayton, he is the most overrated back I have seen. His “tremendous numbers” in preseason actually show an average of 4.7 yards per run against 3rd string defenses. His longest was 27 yards. This guy has failed at every juncture. While Sheets was scoring 48 TDs in college and running for over 3300 yards, Clayton totaled 7 TDs and just over 1000 yards. In his senior year, he was the #3 RB at Kansas State and gained just over 330 yards. Forget his muscles, he can’t block, runs a 4.63 40, and is a one-dimensional player that is way over his head in the pros.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on May 17, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Baloney
stands at 5’ 11" and he’s 220lbs. Tom Rathman should be able to improve onn his pass blocking. It’s time our position coaches do their job and get Clayton READY. He should be the 3rd down back he is th emost dangerous in the open field.
When I read posts like this it makes me want to roll on the floor with laughter. Clayton is a terrible blocker. Most dangerous in the open field is so wrong. Clayton is the slowest of the RBs with a best of 4.63 in the 40. He doesn’t play special teams and has only mediocre hands. This guy will never make an NFL roster. If he was any good at all, other NFL teams, all of whom have seen game films, would have picked him up.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on May 17, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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