49ers waive DB Jimmy Williams; Sign S Curtis Taylor to contract

by Fooch on May 18, 2009 11:18 AM PDT in News Comment 76 comments

According to Matt Maiocco's Twitter page, the 49ers have waived defensive back Jimmy Williams. The only other confirmation of that is on Rotoworld, but that's based on Maiocco's Tweet. In addition, the Rotoworld page said, "Williams' weight still wasn't where it needed to be after he signed a "two-year" deal in January. The 25-year-old should get another shot elsewhere."

Whatever the case, that was certainly quick. I know some folks saw him battling for playing time at safety, but so much for that. If it's a weight issue maybe the team felt that if he couldn't get his weight down given this "last chance" option, why bother keeping him around?

That opens up some potential playing time for new safety Curtis Taylor. Maiocco's Twitter also states that Taylor signed a 4-year deal for $1.8M with a $59,880 signing bonus.

Much more to come on this already busy first day of OTAs.

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Does this mean the 49ers have to keep Roman?

http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com

by supraman on May 18, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

sadly

Yeah probably. As long as Roman doesn’t start then I don’t care if he is still here.

In Shaun Hill will trust

by iaalexeeff on May 18, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought they parted ways with Roman already… What’d I miss?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on May 18, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

roman

He was given permission to seek a trade. Nobody has taken him up on that offer.

by Fooch on May 18, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s kind of disappointing.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on May 18, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

why would it mean they have to keep roman?

they can still go two deep at each safety position without roman or jimmy eat williams.

SS – Michael Lewis – Reggie Smith
FS – Dashon Goldson – Curtis Taylor

we dont need more than 4 safeties. might as well save the roster spot for another position if the talent isnt there.

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on May 19, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's assuming...

… Singletary will choose Taylor over Roman. Singletary said yesterday that Roman is (and will continue to be) welcome on his team.

by sfgfan on May 19, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have to assume...

… Singletary would choose one of his own regime’s draft picks over a Nolan-era holdover that he already demoted before camp even started.

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on May 20, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If...

… the draft pick were higher, sure. If the draft pick was a seventh rounder that who is also eligible for the PS, it makes it a little more difficult to assume that.

by sfgfan on May 20, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought it was funny how excited people were about him

his track record meant I wasn’t willing to envision him playing for us until it actually happened.

That being said, if he got his weight down and resigned I’d be happy to welcome him back

by foosball4949 on May 18, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wasn't even aware Jimmy Williams was still on the team

I always play ESPN 2k5 on my xbox (T.O. as an Eagle on the cover). Jimmy Williams is our kick/punt returner in that game.

by Golden Boy on May 18, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Different Jimmy Williams.

by sfgfan on May 18, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're thinking of...

… this one, while the one the 49ers just cut is this one.

by sfgfan on May 18, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh okay

Thanks for the info

by Golden Boy on May 18, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly...

who still plays ESPN 2K5?

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 18, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do

obviously.

by Golden Boy on May 18, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got ur back bro,

I still play madden 04.

by passionforPERPS on May 18, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice

I honestly don’t really play video games. I bought an xbox just for when guests come over. I’ve tried others, but I’m just not into it. Ever since 2004, I’ve only been playing my ESPN 2k5.

by Golden Boy on May 18, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m still on Madden 07

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on May 18, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was a great game

i miss playing multiplayer football

49er faithful since July 11, 1985

by J2daZ on May 18, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BEST MOTHER******* FOOTBALL GAME EVER

by big beaner on May 18, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i play 95,04,05,2k5,07,08,and09 still of and on. oh and i still play fever 02,and 04

by 5-0 on May 19, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Williams

Maybe his lack of slimming down led Singletary and McCloughan to believe he wasn’t motivated enough to be here? In any case, it is definitely a shock. I’m interested to see what other team is going to give him a shot.

by sfgfan on May 18, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

maybe

Curtis Taylor is 6’ 3" as well as Jimmy Williams. Taylor is 204 lbs and Williams is 220. Maybe they thought Taylor would be a better FS. But it seems to me that Williams could play SS. I’m not sure though.

In Shaun Hill will trust

by iaalexeeff on May 18, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

strong safety

Jimmy Williams was going to be competing for playing time at strong safety and Taylor is going to play at free safety. So you’re correct on that.

by Fooch on May 18, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

In Shaun Hill ~~will~~ we trust. Always the optimist, Im at least glad to have learned Hill supporters arent the brightest bunch.

by passionforPERPS on May 18, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

fans of anybody

Aren’t the brightest bunch. I hope you weren’t trying to insult me. But it doesn’t matter for what sport, what position, what team; there will be stupid fans. As for Shaun Hill, he is the most proven of the QBs we have on our roster. I see on your profile that you are a member of the Cavs blog. Do you want to know how many stupid LeBron fans there are?

In Shaun Hill will trust

by iaalexeeff on May 18, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he was trying to insult you, because “In Shaun Hill will trust” does not make sense.

by jonesin25 on May 18, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow

I didnt even notice that.

In Shaun Hill will trust

by iaalexeeff on May 18, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"we'll"?

by foosball4949 on May 18, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

so suggesting it was a gramatical error...

in addition to a spelling error makes it better than just assuming it was a typo?

by shlecko on May 19, 2009 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

it was just a typo

no big deal

by iaalexeeff on May 19, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"we"

you know like in god we trust, in petrie we trust, in montana we trust, but nothing about Shaun Hill being trusted makes sense so you might as well further the confusion with misused words.
Especially after suggesting our safeties should be playing the position taht Coach already has (or had for Williams, hasta luego chump) them at.

by passionforPERPS on May 24, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He looks like Patrick Willis

playing saftey.

Stay calm. I'm a relatively respectable citizen -- a multiple felon, perhaps, but certainly not dangerous

by LosAltosA's on May 18, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

this sucks

I had such high hopes, I think it was pretty clear that he had the highest ceiling of any of our potential safeties.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

highest ceiling?

What makes you think that?

by Fooch on May 18, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Physically...

… he has the speed of one of the faster corners in the league (if I’m not mistaken, and if he still indeed has that speed, of course), but the size of a SS playing FS. Based on physical measurements alone he had the makings of a freakish FS. Of course, there are tons of other factors that have to be taken into account, too, though.

by sfgfan on May 18, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

Unfortunately it seems he must be severely lacking in the “other factors”

Thing A

by sam23 on May 18, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe they were making an example of him?

We’ve all discussed how Singletary’s unafraid of difficult personalities and reclamation projects. We all remember what he did to Vernon Davis on that fateful day. While going after players who have had difficulties elsewhere provides an opportunity to increase our talent level, the downside is a player can be unruly and eventually the team might feel those negative qualities that led to the player being available in the first place.

Perhaps by cutting Williams so early into the offseason program Singletary is sending a message that while he’s willing to give guys opportunities, he’s unwilling to help a help player who refuses to help himself? Guys have to get in line and do what’s needed of them to help the team, or they’ll be cut.

Setting the tone – simple as that.

by Neon on May 18, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Curtis Taylor

Glad to see him get a 4 year deal. I know, 7th rounders and 4th round deals don’t always go hand and hand, but I think the team feels Taylor will be a good enough project, and he’ll be developed in time for the team to extend him and reward him. It’s what the Niners have been doing, and frankly, I like that business style a lot better than FA splashing.

I mean, yes, it’s nice to see that big name acquisition, but I prefer a team to build from the ground up. Obviously, this team has signed some big flashy free agents, but for the most part, our blocks came from the draft. Frank Gore was drafted in round 3, and was extended before his rookie deal expired, and rewarded handsomely. Parys Haralson was treated the same way. Obviously guys drafted in round 1 are expected to live up to the big money immediately, and I’m cool with that. However, the team stills wants to extend Willis before his rookie deal expires.

I love the way the team is building. Big props for Nolan for gutting the entire football operations, and even bigger props to the guys Nolan brought here. At the end of the day, Mike Nolan would make a pretty decent team President for an organization one day. Let’s not talk about his coaching though.

by Andrew Davidson on May 18, 2009 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

4th round

meant to say 4 year not 4th round.

by Andrew Davidson on May 18, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At the end of the day, Mike Nolan would make a pretty decent team President for an organization one day.

If he continues to fail at coaching though, it’ll be difficult to find a front office willing to give him a chance to run the team as a “Team President.” This is not to mention his PR skills, especially during the Smith debacle, are somewhat lacking.

It’ll definitely be interesting to see how he deals with building his own defense with interference from a head coach.

by sfgfan on May 18, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

PR Skills

are rather lacking, indeed. However, if you look at the PR team now, they can make anyone media friendly (see: State of the Franchise). Don’t get me wrong, I think our front office and coach are effective, but the PR is shining. Whether it be Jed York or Andy Dolich, both are doing an excellent job.

And for the record, Mike Nolan would make a pretty decent team Prez, and I did not mean the 49ers. I figured instead of dogging Nolan, I’ll note some positives and probably never mention him again (unless Denver is 32nd or 1st in defense next season).

by Andrew Davidson on May 18, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting take on Nolan

I’m not sure where I stand but it’s something I hadn’t really thought of. Obviously I think he’s a horrendous coach and terrible at PR, but the people who he brought in I feel have been doing a good job. I suppose he does deserve some credit for that, to be fair.

The guy who I also think deserves some credit is Jed York, who I feel has everyone on the same page for the first time in a while. Love the creation of the team HOF, the weight room and other improvements that he’s investing in, etc. Now if only he can figure out those stadium issues…

by Neon on May 18, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

Jed York deserves a solid fist bump for the job he’s doing. The stadium issues need to be figured by the city of San Francisco as well, not just York and the 49ers.

Hopefully, if York can get the team into a state of the art facility, they’ll be “that” team again. As in, hated by all, loved by the Faithful.

by Andrew Davidson on May 18, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

WHAT IF

THE NINERS SHARED THE STADIUM WITH THE GIANTS
THEN IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE BAD PASSES GO IN THE WATER
BUT THATS A BIG WHAT IF
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE ON ALCATRAZ ISLAND , THAT WOULD BE NICE TOO
AND THOSE ARE JUST WHAT IFS

by big beaner on May 18, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

For some posts, all-caps typing is fitting.

This is one of them.

by shlecko on May 19, 2009 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

4 years is standard

Actually, 4 years is fairly standard for the 49ers and a lot of other NFL teams. They already signed two other picks for four years. It’s just that not a lot of the money is guaranteed so they can cut him without much of a financial hit.

by urnext on May 18, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

4 years in round 7

I always envisioned 7th round deals to be that of the 3-year variety. Basically because I think agents are pushing for shorter deals, so their guy can hit FA quicker and make up for being a 7th round pick.

I did not mean that a 4 year deal for draft picks is rare, I meant for draft picks in round 7, it doesn’t seem as frequent.

by Andrew Davidson on May 18, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think...

… the 49ers did away with 3-year deals in order to get away from the RFA stuff. I could be wrong, though.

by sfgfan on May 18, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'd rather the team

sign the guys to 4 years deals anyway, it gives the team better leverage in extension talks, and keeping players off the market.

by Andrew Davidson on May 18, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same

Considering the 49ers extend their young players that they like before they hit free agency (i.e. Gore, Robinson, Haralson, etc.) taking away the RFA period doesn’t really hurt them anyway. It’s not like they wouldn’t want to keep a player that they would tender and another team would want. How many teams actually take advantage of the RFA period and pay other teams draft picks to sign RFAs?

by sfgfan on May 18, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nolan Nolan Nolan STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nolan was a worthless piece i hate him so bad why would you even mention him team pres I mean seriously why so he can draft first round busts again Smith, Balmer, And davis on offensive side bust why would you care he left us in ruins he tore down alex smith till there was no confidence he went with Just turnovers last year instead of givien hill the chance he desrves he will never be anything again he was lucky in baltimore he had ray that ran the defense him and his worthless big sub defense more like big dud (I know lets take 6,0 180 pund corners lets put six on feild and have tham tackle 250 pound running backers) what an idiot i really like this site please dont deminish it by mentioning his name

P.S his defense wont be any higher than 25th

cppeter

by foreveryoung66 on May 18, 2009 3:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

1st of all

reply fail.

second of all, read the rest of the posts, take a breath, relax, and realize what I meant by that comment.

by Andrew Davidson on May 18, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Was that really all one sentence?

The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on May 18, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

It took me awhile to translate his last one, too much effort…

by Cruithear on May 18, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah id rather see sheets signed
he should be a KR backup or sidekick for “old man” rossum

by big beaner on May 18, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sheets would be a waste of talent to leave on ST

He’s easily our 2nd 3rd Down back since he is familiar with pass protection. Plus as dynamic as he is running he should be number 3 on the depth chart at RB. I figure he can spell Gore on 3rd downs and KR also, but should be considered a RB more than a special teamer.

by Real Deal P Will on May 18, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm.

Gore is by far the best third down back the 49ers have (in terms of balance of pass protection and pass receiving). It’d be an utter fail to say that a rookie who has yet to see an NFL blitz package can step in and take his place.

I’m afraid that the Sheets love-fest is going to turn into what is now known as the Clayton love-fest. I understand being excited about potential and all that, but the kid hasn’t even touched an NFL field and went undrafted. There are plenty of talented college RBs that don’t make it in the NFL.

by sfgfan on May 19, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the is probably a stupid question, but...

…i’m going to ask it anyway.

Is curtis related to sean taylor?

by swerv on May 18, 2009 7:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

No

they aren’t related

by swerv on May 18, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

by swerv on May 18, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So who has signed so far?

Does this make it McKillop, RJF, and now Taylor?

by DiegoAsFan on May 18, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

correct

by Fooch on May 18, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone else kinda think Al Davis might take a shot at Williams now?

by foosball4949 on May 19, 2009 12:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

nice call

When sfgfan made his comment about Williams having the highest ceiling because of his height/weight/ speed numbers, I immediately wondered “hmmm, is sfgfan ACTUALLY Al Davis?”

Of course sfgfan has made too many intelligent comments for me to make that mistake, but…

In Singletary we trust.

by grantmp on May 19, 2009 5:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

I’m definitely not Al Davis. Definitely not someone anyone should aspire to be.

by sfgfan on May 19, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wished I owned my own NFL team.

But not if I had too look like that, well maybe, ah probably not.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on May 19, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al Davis was a good looking guy

in the 1890s, but yeah, once he got old, his appearance become nothing short of creepy old crazy guy.

nor his ownership style.

by Andrew Davidson on May 19, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No offense intended

Call it a cautionary tale for all of us (yeah, I’m including myself there) who drool over H/W/S numbers. The tale reads like this:
“There once was a man obsessed by players’ height/weight/speed numbers. He turned into a sea monster. The end.”

In Singletary we trust.

by grantmp on May 19, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs