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Walt Harris suffers ACL injury; likely out for 2009 season

Thanks to Swift Kick in the Goc for getting this up in the FanShots.  I wanted to open this up as a full post to get people's thoughts and ideas on the cornerback position.  As many have already heard, the 49ers announced that Walt Harris suffered "an ACL injury" during practice yesterday.

Harris will undergo surgery and technically the 49ers didn't announce how much time Harris would miss.  However, as Maiocco stated, Harris is probably done for the season.  Consider the type of injury and Harris's age, I'd certainly be surprised if he made it back this season.

It's certainly fitting that we took a look at the cornerback position this morning.  The team was already rather thin at cornerback, and the loss of Harris leaves them waaaay too thin.  At this point Tarell Brown is the #2 starter with Spencer and Marcus Hudson sitting behind him. 

The 49ers will be signing a corner at some point, but it's a question of what angle they take on the signing.  Do you go with a veteran for depth, or do you hope you can find a starter?  Personally, I hope Tarell Brown can win the starting job at this point. 

Mike Sando listed some of the free agent options still out there.  We've got a lengthy list that includes:

Rod Hood, Chris McAlister, Terry Cousin, Kenny Wright, Pacman Jones, Dre' Bly, Travis Fisher, Brian Kelly, Patrick Surtain, Sam Madison, David Barrett, Deltha O'Neal, Jason Craft, Fakhir Brown, Ty Law, Ricky Manning, Reynaldo Hill, R.W. McQuarters, Jamar Fletcher and Aaron Glenn.

It's a mix of relatively young and relatively old.  At some point in the next couple days I'll put together a run-down of the various free agent corners.  In the meantime, initial thoughts?

FOOCH'S NOTE: Right after I posted this I received a transcript of Tarell Brown's post-practice media session.  I don't think he knew the full extent of Walt Harris's injury at this point (or was covering for it).  Either way, it's good timing. I've posted it after the jump.

Star-divide

CB Tarell Brown
Post Practice, 05-20-09
San Francisco 49ers

 

On his role this season:
“Yeah, most definitely. I always see myself as a starter. I’m going to work every day like I’m a starter. Just work to push the guys and just work to get better every day.”

On if he feels comfortable with his role on the defense:
“Most definitely. I’m coming into my third year. I know the scheme like the back of my hand. I’m comfortable in this stuff. I can make plays. I feel like I’m one of the most athletic players on the football field, every time I step onto the field. I have no doubt in my mind that I have the confidence to go out there and make plays.”

On the strides he’s made since his rookie season:
“I think with film watching, understanding the offensive schemes, learning pass concepts, staying extra with the coaches, with Nate [Clements] and the older guys helping me try to learn pass patterns and stuff like that, it definitely helps me out a lot.”

On the adjustment from slot/nickel to starting cornerback:
“It’s pretty much the same thing. We just do a little stuff different here and there. I feel like I’m a playmaker regardless. They wouldn’t have brought me here if they didn’t want me to play. I have confidence in myself to go out there and make plays and that’s all I’m going to do.”

On his condition at the rookie mini-camp and what he participated in:
“Yeah I did some stuff. We were just there to help the younger guys out, but nothing was nagging me really.”

On his physical condition:
“Physically, I’m great, tip-top shape. You can’t see the muscles. I’m hiding it under the big T-shirt.”

On Michael Crabtree:
“I’m always excited to guard anybody, especially a guy being from Texas and the Dallas area. I can’t wait for him to get out there. I know he’s a great player, watching him do his thing in college. I’m excited to guard anybody. The guys we have right now have great tools, so I think he makes us better and we make him better every day.”

On Walt Harris’s condition:
“He’s doing real good. Just icing his knee, he had a little tweak, he’ll be fine.”

On Jerry Rice’s address to the team:
“It’s amazing to get the opportunity to stand on the same field with a Hall of Famer, which we do every day with Coach Singletary and a lot of other guys on our team who can probably be Hall of Famers in years to come. But, just to get the opportunity to see him and somebody I’ve always watched as a child growing up, him going against Deion [Sanders] and the Cowboys and the 49ers, or the Bears and the 49ers. It’s definitely a blessing. Any time he can come out here and give me some tips, I’m willing to learn. I want to learn the tricks of the trade.”

On what stood out most from Jerry Rice’s speech:
“Pretty much practice habits. Going out here every day busting it. Giving it your all, because you never know when this game will be over for you. You never know when your last play will be. So, for me and all the other guys, we just try to go hard every day like it’s our last and take it for what it’s worth.”

On how he thinks he would fare and what his strategy would be against Jerry Rice in his prime and:
“Well, I would have to watch film on him first. I would have to get my game plan schemes with him first. I definitely see an amazing work ethic. I definitely see him getting in and out of his breaks pretty quick. He wasn’t a blazer, like crazy fast, but he could get on top of you pretty good. So, I would sit on a couple of his routes, believing that I could get over top. But, that’s something that you would have to game plan, have to watch. I wouldn’t shy away from competition.  I feel like any time you get an opportunity to step on the field, you have got to make the most of it. For a corner, you’ve got to have that swagger that you can play against anybody and you can beat anybody. You might give up one, but best believe I’m coming back to take two. That’s my mindset.”

On whether he thinks he can get to the level of play to match the Arizona Cardinals receivers or guys like Torry Holt:
“I’ve always watched and admired their game, as far as watching on film and studying. But, I feel like I can play with any of them. Those are bigger guys, and stronger guys, don’t let the shirt fool you. I’m kind of thick under here too. I can push a little weight.”

On whether he thinks he’s the most athletic guy on the team:
“Yeah, most definitely.”

On what makes him think that:
“Move. My quickness, my speed in and out of breaks. Agility. Just the way I move. Changing direction. I can hit top-end speed pretty quick. I bet every guy feels like that. To be a good football player you have got to have confidence in yourself. Not arrogance, but confidence. But, I definitely feel like the most athletic guy on the squad.”

On where confidence ends and arrogance begins:
“Confidence, for me, I just step on the field with confidence. After that, once I take the pads off, take the helmet off, I’m back to a laid-back guy. When you step on the field, you have got to have that little swagger about yourself, knowing that its time to work because I’ve put in hard work in the offseason. I’ve put in extra time running. I’ve put in extra time doing handwork drills, and ball drills, and footwork drills. So, I definitely have that confidence that I can be one of the better people.”

On whether a little bit of swagger is needed to play the cornerback position:
“Yeah, most definitely. Because you’re by yourself a lot and you get lonely. You’ve got to entertain yourself a little bit. Me and Nate [Clements] entertain ourselves a lot. Us corners, we try to strive to be perfect every day, and for us to do that, for us to get where we want to as a defense, we’ve got to strive to be perfect every day. And that’s where we’re getting to.”

On what happened between he and Trent Dilfer two years ago:
“We’re teammates. It was never anything personal. We’re teammates. Sometimes in the heat of the moment, — it’s like brothers. Brothers get into it sometimes. That’s my brother. We got into it for little second.”

On what he feels when Trent Dilfer comes around the practice facility now:
“It’s all love. It’s all love. We’re brothers. As a teammate, you’re going to get into it with your brother, but at the end of the day, once you step off the field, we know that it’s love and it’s just the competiveness in us that makes us go at it like that. He knows that he really cares, and he knows that I really care, that we were going into it like that.”

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Pacman

Go get him right now. There are no clubs worth getting into trouble in around the San Fran area.

by BigWorm on May 20, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It would certainly fit Coach Sing’s Merry Band of Misfits theme =)

by Cruithear on May 20, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's Pacman

He’ll make it rain in a nursing home and then create a melee if he has to.

I’d say the 49ers sign a few veteran CBs available now (I like Bly and Hood on that list) and let them battle it out with Brown and company. They won’t command much money or guaranteed contracts so if they can’t perform well during practice and preseason, they’d be cut.

Mo'ped Money, Mo'ped Problems

by Scooter Ellis on May 20, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He looked

TERRIBLE on pros vs joes, pacman is garbage.

by pbra17 on May 20, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he was awful

but great to watch lose a fight to a 5’9" white guy

by foosball4949 on May 21, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhh

that would make for an interesting BINGO night.

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hood

Would be a much better pick up

by chikmagnet_565 on May 20, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I think he would be a good guy to compete with Brown for the #2 spot.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 8, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris McAlister

could be a great 1-2 year player and an even better teacher

by GreatOden'sRaven on May 20, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree with that

McAlister comes from a great defense already so he has some experience. Also if he doesn’t pan out as a starter, then that just means that Tarell Brown is good enough to be a starter, which is even better for us. Not to mention his signing would create a bit more veteran depth.

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on May 20, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kingsfan...

Sorry about the lottery man…

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

devastating

Hot dogs, get your hot dogs.

by jjham15 on May 20, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was watching

highlights of Rubio today on youtube… dude is sick.

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely not gonna happen, if they are gonna pass on him they’ll trade down

Thing A

by sam23 on May 20, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah at first it sucked

but in Petrie I trust

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on May 20, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea McAllister would be my first choice, his size would be helpful, but isn’t he coming off knee surgery? By or Hood would be next on my wish list

Thing A

by sam23 on May 20, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO

I’d have to say Bly and Hood would be my first choices, with McAlister and Manning in the next group. Hood could probably give us some insight on the Cardinals offensive schemes as well.

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ricky Manning...

I second the Ricky Manning pick. He’s young, his stats look decent. Looks like he only fell asleep for St. Louis last year.

by hugemelvin on May 20, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I live in Philly..

and will always remember Manning for the three INT’s he had against the Eagles to knock them out of the NFc championship game… God I loved that game.

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When to look to trade for Sheldon Brown?

I like Tarel Brown and I’d give him a shot to prove he’s starter quality. If Spencer is healthy he can play nickel. In the situation both prove capable then we can wait for a team to cut a quality player to add depth that we need at the position.

If Brown proves to be just a nickel corner then go after a guy like Sheldon Brown. He’s a physical corner to match up with ARZ WR’s. I’d consider a 3rd rounder to get him. This isn’t an ideal situation but we just lost a starter at the position with the weakest depth.

Honestly, I looked forward to going against Hood and question McAlister’s health. I agree Manning can provide solid depth but isn’t starter quality.

by abasketballfan on May 20, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind Sheldon Brown

but isn’t he unhappy about his contract?

Not only would we be giving up a draft pick, but more money too. I think a one year plug in would be a better solution, unless Brown doesn’t want a new deal.

by Andrew Davidson on May 20, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheldon Brown

is around 30 years old isn’t he? Manning and Hood are both younger and less expensive.

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still Harris is 34.

I was thinking about Sheldon Brown. He isn’t happy with his contract so it could happen. I don’t know what he is worth player or draft pick wise but, he has had some monsterous hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25wkCn04160
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pLQ23MQQ2g&feature=related

It is more likely that we would sign a FA. Rod Hood could be good for when we play the Cards because he practiced against Fitz/Boldin. Also has exp against the Rams’ no name WRs and the Seahawks.

by iaalexeeff on May 20, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hood won't stop any of the Cards recievers

you would be better off with Sheldon Brown

by CardsDefense on May 20, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

worst case?

A 35-year older corner blows out his knee? They’re thin, but remember they’ve got a lot of cap room to spend on some of the other options out there. Some of them could reasonably be expected to be better than Harris.

by Fooch on May 20, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I’m really intrigued with Hood and Manning right now. Both would be better options the Harris IMO

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, and I think several of those guys on the free agent list may actually be upgrades over Harris.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 20, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Allen Rossum?

I bet he still has a little CB left in him…. if need be that is.

by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 20, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL, too funny!

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on May 20, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris McAlister

From an outside fan’s perspective. Chris McAlister would be the best choice. He replaces Walt Harris’ veteran leadership, is a proven winner, has some gas left in the tank, knows how to play in a 3-4 defense already and does a great job, great attitude, knows Mike Singletary’s system, has worked with Singletary before, and imo would look great in a San Francisco 49ers’ uniform. imo.

by ChiefsFan90s on May 20, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good size to help Clements deal with the Boldin/Fitzgerald combination. His injury history is my only concern about him

Thing A

by sam23 on May 20, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really care WHO we get.....

…but we need to get somebody, and we need to get them NOW. We need to get them so they can get comfortable, and we need to get them while we can.

McAlister would probably be my choice, though.

by Blank x2 on May 20, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I THINK IT A GOOD THING

I have seen harris as you guys have seen him to be burned or out maned alot last season, Personally i think mcallister while not a long time replacement but 2-3 years because we dont know if spencer is gonna be as good as he was we may need mcallister to step in front of terrell and put terrell at nickel the only other prospect is hood really cause he knows the cards recivers i just dont see anybody else we all know a 30 year old mcallister as great as he was is still as good as a 34 year old harris Its simple….

cppeter

by foreveryoung66 on May 20, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Ricky Manning and McAlister are good candidates. I just hope that the guys in the depth chart gets a chance to win the job, too. Personally, I think Reggie Smith can play that position for a year or two. Although I still believe his true position in the NFL is either safety spots.

Good luck to Walt. I hope he recovers soon and be able to stay pain free after a devastating injury. Forget football for now, Walt. Focus on recovery and your future.

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on May 20, 2009 4:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bly, Hood, or McAlister are the ones to look at

please do NOT bring back McQuarters. Can’t believe his name is even on the list, lol.

by jviet on May 20, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

What is Mike Rumph doing these days?

by bignerd on May 20, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AHMED PLUMMER WHERZE HE AT?

I have a friend named Jason Craft so I like that guy, but seriously I like Bly and Manning. I would be happy with either. I would be happy with McAlister too.

"I'll be honest with you, I love his music, I do, I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman"

by 49erLou on May 20, 2009 9:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well... there it goes

Harris was the ONLY good CB on this team last year.

Not adding CB depth in the draft may come back to bite this team in the rear after all.

I simply can’t see this team having any success in pass defense with the guys we’re going to be trotting out there in the secondary. Unless we somehow develop one of the best pass rushes in the NFL, this season is looking grim on defense.

Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....

by youALREADYknow on May 20, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We did get Walt Harris off some what similar situation. We did kind of troll the free agent market and took a flyer on an aging CB.

by bignerd on May 21, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harris was the ONLY good CB...last year

How can you disrespect Nate “I’m gonna strip you sucka” Clements like that? That’s damn near blasphemy.

I like to shake them haters off, so sometimes I just sit here shaking.

by jfainsf49 on May 21, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Initial thoughts

Of the corners I see available, I like Ricky Manning, Dre’ Bly, and Deltha O’Neal.

Ricky Manning is young and I seem to remember him having some very good games for the Panthers over the years.

Dre’ Bly is getting a little older and as another article points out, he is not big or physical. I think for a one year fix though, he works out well. He is extremely quick and athletic. He’ll gamble occasionally, but he has been such a good corner in the past. My only concern is when he goes up against Boldin.

Deltha O’Neal is a little like a poor man’s Dre’ Bly. Similar make-up and skill set. Quick, athletic, not very physical, and gambles. Another guy who has been a play-maker before.

I’ve noticed McAlister mentioned a few times. My problem with McAlister is that he is getting old and has never been a fast corner. He has been a guy who has relied a lot on being physical with receivers. This would be all good and fine, but the man has lost a step and at this point in his career, is simply not fast enough to keep up with receivers once they get past his bump. He is also coming off an injury plagued season if memory serves me correct. Not the kind of guy I want coming in to replace our injured corner.

None of the other corners on that list (other than the ones I name) really offer much. Pac Man will end up in a SF strip club and subsequently in jail. Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Sam Madison, and Aaron Glenn are all past their primes and at this point in their careers I really don’t want to see them covering the #2 WR. Fakhir Brown, Jason Craft, and most of the others on the list have never been starters or anything special and are unlikely to become so now.

My top scenario though, involves Tarell Brown taking the job with either Shawntae Spencer or one of the three cb’s I listed taking over as nickle back.

by Calcio365 on May 21, 2009 1:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Best wishes Walt.

I like to shake them haters off, so sometimes I just sit here shaking.

by jfainsf49 on May 21, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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